Pedophiles/grooming/trans kids are a thing because we let gays get married. Change my mind.

[martybegan]

Same-sex marriage does not affect peoples' sexuality. At most, it might make transsexuals/genders feel more comfortable about being open about it; but they existed even before the legalization of same-sex marriage.

it's called the slippery slope effect, which contrary to popular belief, isn't a fallacy in all cases.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Yes. We have people sexualizing children right out in public now with drag story time, sexual predators popping up allover, people publicly trying to normalize pedophilia by trying to people to call them minor attracted persons, shows on streaming services like Hulu about child drag show contests, kids playing dildo ring toss, belinciwga or whatever having photo shoots with kids and teddy bears in s&m outfits, books about gay sex in elementary schools, kids wanting to be trannies and a lot more.

Why do we have all of this? Because America let gays get married.

I'll explain.

We let gays get married. We put them in the mainstream and allowed them to be normalized. Before they were normalized they were a fringe group keeping to themselves, doing what they do behind closed doors and staying faily quiet. As soon as they were allowed to be married they became normal. They started being allover the place.

So before American society had a moral, standards and ethical bar and they didn't want to let gays be normalized. But as soon as we normalized them we lowered our bar on our standards, morals and ethics.

And what happened when we lowered the bar? It got closer to the the fringe group that was below gays, trannies. Now we normalized trannies and have them working in the white house, they are allover social media, kids want to be trannies, they are on tv, places like California want to give trannies special unemployment and so on.

Now that trannies are becoming normalized we have lowered our bar yet again. And what happens when we lower our bar? It gets closer to the fringe group below them, pedophiles and groomers.

Everytime you let the bar get lower all you do is raise up what is below that bar. You make what was once totally unacceptable become a little more acceptable. Everytime you concede to someone all you do is show you're willing to concede and accept more.

Although really I'd say it started with normalizing hippies in the 60s. They were America's first true major fringe group to become normalized. But normalizing gays was the first big step we took that put on this path of sexualizing children.

America and Americans, all of us did this. We allowed kids to become sexual objects because we just stood there with our hands in our pockets and let it happen. We stood there when gays wanted to get married and said "it doesn't effect me". When trannies and drag queens started starring in movies and commercials we again said "doesn't effect me". But it does effect us because everytime we accept the unacceptable it lowers our moral, ethical and standards bar as a society.

Trannies are on the verge of becoming mainstream and normalized, the pedophiles are already poking their heads out and testing the waters to see how much they can get away with. They are not wasting any time.

It's this sort of rightwing bigotry and hate that facilitates violent attacks against gay and transgender Americans.

 

[martybegan]

It's this sort of rightwing bigotry and hate that facilitates violent attacks against gay and transgender Americans.

The old SJW manta "Your speech is violence, our violence is speech"

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

The slippery slope argument was proven demonstrably correct here.

Personally? I don't think the government should treat married couples differently and I don't think the state should even use the word "marriage," and I don't care if two dudes or two chicks want to have a joint property contract. They can work all the standard clauses about marriage into said document, and then you sign it, congrats. Have a religious ceremony if you want, that's between you and your god, not really the government's concern or business.


But it is clear that we went from oh, we just want civil unions, we just want tolerance of our differences...

... to gay marriage has always been a Constitutional right, why of course the founders and then Congress in the 1860s believed that...

... to where we are now: drag shows for children, "transitioning" children, talking to 6 and 7 year olds about sex in public schools, and the left generally opining that if you don't want to suck a "trans woman's" dick, you're a hateful bigot.

*******

Tolerance of differences and equality under the law? Yeah, libertarian, all for it, leave people alone to do their own thing - if they are consenting adults.

But this isn't about tolerance, they don't want tolerance, they want your attentive and constant positive affirmation and encouragement and participation in their ideology and memetic content.

So yeah, if you're an adult and if you want cosmetic surgery to alter your genitalia or whatever, your money, your business. These are COSMETIC and thus ELECTIVE surgeries though, so by no means should this be a matter for insurance and sure as shit the government shouldn't be paying for this. This is tolerance.

Just don't expect to control my mind or speech - "gender" is the result of the vile work of John Money, "gender" is meaningless bullshit, and cosmetic surgery doesn't change your sex.
You can legally change your name, okay, well and good, but if you're a dude, you're still a dude, none of this pronoun swapping bullshit: example, Ellen Page can change HER name to Elliott, but SHE is still the ACTRESS from Inception.

And streaming services shouldn't have retroactively changed HER name on the credits - if Tom Cruise changes his name to Jimothy Tanglebottom, the star of Top Gun is not retroactively Jimothy Tanglebottom, that's stupid. Future movies starring Mr. Tanglebottom, yeah, okay.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The old SJW manta "Your speech is violence, our violence is speech"

Conservatives propagating lies about 'grooming' jeopardize the safety of those gay and transgender

 

[martybegan]

Conservatives propagating lies about 'grooming' jeopardize the safety of those gay and transgender

What "lies"?

Social pressure to identify as something other than cis-normal to be considered part of the "cool groups" has never been higher.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

All decisions to be made by parents, children, and doctors (medical and psychological).
We (as a society) have nothing to say about it.

So, if a father wants to teach his eight-year-old daughter to suck his dick, is that a valid decision for parent to make, one in which society should have nothing to say?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Most Pedophiles are Heterosexual

I WIN!

Only because heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a couple dozen to one. If hetero/homo sexual orientation had no bearing on pedophilic inclinations, then we should expect to see about 24 or 25 men who want to fuck little girls for every man who wants to fuck little boys. Instead, we're seeing fairly similar numbers of both. Little boys are sexually molested almost as often as little girls.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It's this sort of rightwing bigotry and hate that facilitates violent attacks against gay and transgender Americans.

Attacks are not the least bit unjustified, against such depraved perverts, when they start going after young children.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Conservatives propagating lies about 'grooming' jeopardize the safety of those gay and transgender

They're not lies, and decent people are more concerned about the safety of children, than we are about the safety of sick perverts who go after children.

That you care more about the perverts tells us all that we need to know about your [lack of] moral character. The world would be a much better, safer, healthier place, if your kind were hunted down and exterminated.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Attacks are not the least bit unjustified, against such depraved perverts, when they start going after young children.

Except they don't. It's the heteros you see engaging in this behavior for the most part. Family members. Close friends. Not some gay random stranger.
But you use the fact that you disagree vehemently with their lifestyle as an excuse for violence..because they must be perverts. They're are going against God's natural order.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So, if a father wants to teach his eight-year-old daughter to suck his dick, is that a valid decision for parent to make, one in which society should have nothing to say?

This really doesn't deserve a response, but I'll give it a try.

Stop equating pedophilia with gay and trans people. You're just displaying your bigotry and justifying violence.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Stop equating pedophilia with gay and trans people. You're just displaying your bigotry and justifying violence.

If they were not openly going after children, then you might have a point.

As long as they are going after children, any violence against them is fully justified.

Do not forget that NAMBLA was part of and welcomed into the early faggot-rights movement.

Also, that there is a long, well-documented history of certain segments of faggotry openly preferring young boys, from the catamites of ancient Rome to the bacha bazi of today, and now the young children being openly groomed in public schools for such uses.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

If they were not openly going after children, then you might have a point.

As long as they are going after children, any violence against them is fully justified.

Do not forget that NAMBLA was part of and welcomed into the early faggot-rights movement.

Also, that there is a long, well-documented history of certain segments of faggotry openly preferring young boys, from the catamites of ancient Rome to the bacha bazi of today, and now the young children being openly groomed in public schools for such uses.

They aren't openly going after children. Your assertion of "documented history" is bigoted baloney. Pedophilia is illegal...period.
Children are mostly likely to be abused by immediate family members or close friends of the family. Not a random, gay stranger.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

They aren't openly going after children.

To deny it, you are either unimaginably blind, or else flat-out lying.

They're not even hiding what they are doing.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

To deny it, you are either unimaginably blind, or else flat-out lying.

They're not even hiding what they are doing.

They aren't. You are projecting.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

They aren't.

To deny it, you are either unimaginably blind, or else flat-out lying