PBS says we must fear the "white Christian Nationalist"

[toobfreak]

I don't fear the Christians I am annoyed by them...

May a thousand Jehovah Witnesses descend upon your home tonight.

 

[Moonglow]

May a thousand Jehovah Witnesses descend upon your home tonight.

I won't be there I will be at work.

 

[theHawk]

What is Christian nationalism and why it raises concerns about threats to democracy

White Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a lot as of late. Brad Onishi is a former evangelical minister who once identified as a Christian nationalist himself. He left the church in 2005 and began studying religion and extremism. Laura Barrón-López spoke with Onishi to better...

www.pbs.org

(snidbit)
The phrase white Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a bit recently, but what does it really mean?
Christian nationalism is an ideology that is based around the idea that this is a Christian nation, that this was founded as a Christian nation, and, therefore, it should be a Christian nation today and should be so in the future.
According to survey data, Christian nationalists agree with statements like the federal government should declare the United States of America a Christian nation. Our laws should be based on Christian values. being a Christian is important if you want to be a real American.
One, it's built around the idea that Christians are called to a new transformation or reformation of the United States. These are Christians who want to revolutionize the way that our country looks, and to make it great again in terms of being a Christian nation.
They were at the very avant-garde of trying to get the 2020 election overturned in the wake of Joe Biden's victory and mobilizing folks to be at January 6.
I think white evangelicals are the group we think of when we think of white Christian nationalism, and for good reason.
These are folks who, when we think about the Iowa caucuses, in 2016 Trump's white evangelical voters were about 20 percent of his share of voters in that cycle. Just a few weeks ago, in 2024, that grew to well over 50 percent.
White evangelicals remain committed to the MAGA movement.

Comment:
This is Democrat boilerplate propaganda hate and fear mongering.
The Radical Left is using hate and fear for the Evangelicals as one of their campaign tools.
They are saying that we must fear the Evangelicals.
This is part of the pattern of the Radical Left's cultural loathing of Wasps.
Can you imagine using this sort of campaign hate mongering against any other religious group?
When the Radical Left uses their term "threat against democracy" it actually means a threat against the corrupt Democrat Party's quest for one-party hegemony.
Their version of "democracy" is one-party tyranny.

Well…they are correct.

Satanic pedos should fear White Christian nationalists.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

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[Moonglow]

Well…they are correct.

Satanic pedos should fear White Christian nationalists.

Unless you are a White Christain Nationalist who is a Satanic pedo..

 

[Coyote]

Only made so by the leftwing media and politicians as a means of advancing identity politics toward their own ends by making "MAGA" something for their base to hate and fear and to work against rather than just being a campaign slogan. In fact, the left are what took Make America Great Again and shortened it into 'MAGA," as often repeated by Joe Biden.

And that cult thing--- MAGA is no more a cult than the efforts to defeat Trump. Indeed, isn't the real cult those who have spent BILLIONS of dollars trying to defeat a guy who simply wants to put America first?

But I finally figured out the pejorative against MAGA being a cult--- what it is really about is the growing hatred of the Trump movement supporting him despite all that the left have thrown at him! It isn't MAGA they hate and fear, it is the fact that Trump has endeared so loyal and unshakable a following, something they envy and wish they could instill in a democrat--- ANY democrat--- but can't. The left would KILL to have a cult around one of their own like Trump has.

So when I hear "Cult," what I really hear is envy.

I don’t agree with you about the cult thing. There are Trump voters who vote for him holding their nose, because he is better, in their view then the alternative, and there are those who would support him even if he shot a person in the middle of the street in broad daylight. The latter is a cult.

And I have no desire for any cult, political or otherwise. I want political leaders engaged in representing my interests, the larger interests of our country, who want to actually govern.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Political Cults use hate and fear to empower themselves.
The Marxist use hate and fear of the Rich.
The Fascist use hate and fear of Jews.
The Klan uses hate and fear of Blacks.
The Crazy Democrat Cult uses hate and fear of wasps/christians/evangelicals/patriots/white people/suburbanites/southerners/midwesterners/mainstream society/ average middle-class families......
The Democrats are in denial of their hate problem.

 

[Foxfyre]

I (respectfully) disagree. MAGA, integrity and compassion do not co-exist in the political sphere nor does it come down from the leadership.

You are so wrong. But that's why you aren't MAGA yourself I suppose. Each to their own so long as they don't force it on everybody else.

 

[1srelluc]

How about right-leaning white agnostics?

Blah, they paint anyone that's just right of Stalin with the same brush.

IMHO the leftists deserve Stalin like things.

You know:

 

[Concerned American]

What is Christian nationalism and why it raises concerns about threats to democracy

White Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a lot as of late. Brad Onishi is a former evangelical minister who once identified as a Christian nationalist himself. He left the church in 2005 and began studying religion and extremism. Laura Barrón-López spoke with Onishi to better...

www.pbs.org

(snidbit)
The phrase white Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a bit recently, but what does it really mean?
Christian nationalism is an ideology that is based around the idea that this is a Christian nation, that this was founded as a Christian nation, and, therefore, it should be a Christian nation today and should be so in the future.
According to survey data, Christian nationalists agree with statements like the federal government should declare the United States of America a Christian nation. Our laws should be based on Christian values. being a Christian is important if you want to be a real American.
One, it's built around the idea that Christians are called to a new transformation or reformation of the United States. These are Christians who want to revolutionize the way that our country looks, and to make it great again in terms of being a Christian nation.
They were at the very avant-garde of trying to get the 2020 election overturned in the wake of Joe Biden's victory and mobilizing folks to be at January 6.
I think white evangelicals are the group we think of when we think of white Christian nationalism, and for good reason.
These are folks who, when we think about the Iowa caucuses, in 2016 Trump's white evangelical voters were about 20 percent of his share of voters in that cycle. Just a few weeks ago, in 2024, that grew to well over 50 percent.
White evangelicals remain committed to the MAGA movement.

Comment:
This is Democrat boilerplate propaganda hate and fear mongering.
The Radical Left is using hate and fear for the Evangelicals as one of their campaign tools.
They are saying that we must fear the Evangelicals.
This is part of the pattern of the Radical Left's cultural loathing of Wasps.
Can you imagine using this sort of campaign hate mongering against any other religious group?
When the Radical Left uses their term "threat against democracy" it actually means a threat against the corrupt Democrat Party's quest for one-party hegemony.
Their version of "democracy" is one-party tyranny.

Never saw a sign anywhere promoting White Christian Nationalism. Can't say the same for Black Lives Matter----

 

[theHawk]

Unless you are a White Christain Nationalist who is a Satanic pedo..

Yes if you are a Satanic pedo masquerading as a Christian nationalist, you should be afraid as well.

 

[task0778]

I do believe that Christians are not a violent people and therefore I see no need to fear them. They have extremists just like every other religion or group, whose actions contradict the tenets of their religion, but most Christians are not looking for trouble.

 

[MarathonMike]

What is Christian nationalism and why it raises concerns about threats to democracy

White Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a lot as of late. Brad Onishi is a former evangelical minister who once identified as a Christian nationalist himself. He left the church in 2005 and began studying religion and extremism. Laura Barrón-López spoke with Onishi to better...

www.pbs.org

(snidbit)
The phrase white Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a bit recently, but what does it really mean?
Christian nationalism is an ideology that is based around the idea that this is a Christian nation, that this was founded as a Christian nation, and, therefore, it should be a Christian nation today and should be so in the future.
According to survey data, Christian nationalists agree with statements like the federal government should declare the United States of America a Christian nation. Our laws should be based on Christian values. being a Christian is important if you want to be a real American.
One, it's built around the idea that Christians are called to a new transformation or reformation of the United States. These are Christians who want to revolutionize the way that our country looks, and to make it great again in terms of being a Christian nation.
They were at the very avant-garde of trying to get the 2020 election overturned in the wake of Joe Biden's victory and mobilizing folks to be at January 6.
I think white evangelicals are the group we think of when we think of white Christian nationalism, and for good reason.
These are folks who, when we think about the Iowa caucuses, in 2016 Trump's white evangelical voters were about 20 percent of his share of voters in that cycle. Just a few weeks ago, in 2024, that grew to well over 50 percent.
White evangelicals remain committed to the MAGA movement.

Comment:
This is Democrat boilerplate propaganda hate and fear mongering.
The Radical Left is using hate and fear for the Evangelicals as one of their campaign tools.
They are saying that we must fear the Evangelicals.
This is part of the pattern of the Radical Left's cultural loathing of Wasps.
Can you imagine using this sort of campaign hate mongering against any other religious group?
When the Radical Left uses their term "threat against democracy" it actually means a threat against the corrupt Democrat Party's quest for one-party hegemony.
Their version of "democracy" is one-party tyranny.

There is your gubmint funded propaganda engine.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I concur with most, maybe all, of your conclusions here. First you have to define 'nationalist' which Merriam Webster defines as national independence which is what Patriots want--OR--strong national government which is what Democrats/leftists want. So all politically minded people are nationalists in one way or another.

Not all nationalism is equal. What these people are pushing, and who the MAGA movement represents is a negative and toxic form of nationalism

Negative and Positive Nationalism

Due to the nature of nationalism, conflict is inevitable, particularly when it comes to nationalism as a political movement. Within the bounds of a nation there are people who are insiders and those who are outsiders. The way in which a nation portrays "the other" is crucial in determining whether the nationalism is positive or negative. Nazi Germany and the outcomes of Hitler’s campaign against the Jews during World War II is an example of the dangers of nationalism. The Indian rebellion against colonial rule by the British and subsequent independence is an example of positive nationalism

Difference in Communism & a Dictatorship | Synonym

Remember Trumps “shit hole “comment. That is just one small example of his negative brand of Nationalism. His war on NATO is another.

Here is more food for thought:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trumpian-nationalism/?utm_term=.bc01b030240e

The commemorations also underscored the magnificent achievement of the post-World War II international liberal order — which prevented any wars of this magnitude, ushered in decades of prosperity and drew bitter enemies in to close alliances. One truly has to have a heart of stone and a lack of any understanding of the 20th century not to be moved by the sight of leaders of the European nations walking together in the rain down the Champs-Elysees or the obvious personal affection between German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron.

And Trump? Where was he? Macron is right!
Macron’s speech was a perfectly delivered argument for preserving the international order and rejecting President Trump’s noxious nationalism. Macron explained, “Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism. By putting our own interests first, with no regard for others, we erase the very thing that a nation holds dearest, and the thing that keeps it alive: its moral values.” He continued, “Old demons are rising again. New ideologies are manipulating religions, and history is threatening to repeat its tragedies. Let us vow once more as nations to ensure peace is the utmost priority, above all else, because we know what it cost.”

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

A white Christian nationalist is a Democrat/leftist who happens to be Christian and white or a Republican/Patriot who happens to be Christian and white.

Sorry, Christian nationalism which basically seeks to establish a Theocracy is antithetical to both leftist values and patriotism

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

As for this being a Christian nation, the Founders certainly saw that as the way things should be.

Then why is there no mention of Christianity in the Constitution?

 

[martybegan]

Are you a right wing christian nationalist and this bothers you?

The issue is they attempt to link anyone even remotely Religious (and Christian) with the WP/WN types.

So to you morons all Evangelicals are White Christian Nationalists.

 

[martybegan]

Sorry, Christian nationalism which basically seeks to establish a Theocracy is antithetical to both leftist values and patriotism

And consists of at most a few tens of thousands of people in this country.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."--George Washington

"Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."--John Adams

There were Christians among the Founders – no deists – but the key Founders who were most responsible for the founding documents (Declaration of Independence and Constitution) and who had the most influence were theistic rationalists. They did not intend to create a Christian nation.

The Faith of the Founding Fathers - The Master's University - TMU​

 

[The Irish Ram]

Where does that leave black Christian nationalists?