PBS says we must fear the "white Christian Nationalist"

[okfine]

The issue is they attempt to link anyone even remotely Religious (and Christian) with the WP/WN types.

So to you morons all Evangelicals are White Christian Nationalists.

Are you a MAGAmike type?

 

[Foxfyre]

Not all nationalism is equal. What these people are pushing, and who the MAGA movement represents is a negative and toxic form of nationalism

Negative and Positive Nationalism

Difference in Communism & a Dictatorship | Synonym

Remember Trumps “shit hole “comment. That is just one small example of his negative brand of Nationalism. His war on NATO is another.

Here is more food for thought:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trumpian-nationalism/?utm_term=.bc01b030240e

Do you know what the context was for Trump's 'shit hole country'? I do. Instead of having immigration policy that requires new immigrants to be able to support themselves and contribute to American society we have a lottery system that brings in as many welfare recipients as it does self supporting and contributing new citizens. In a bipartisan closed door discussion towards revising and improving the immigration laws, the Democrats argued that without the lottery system, people from some countries would never qualify. Ergo Trump's very honest and accurate but politically incorrect question "Why do we want people from these shit hole little countries?"

The politically correct way to say it would be what most countries require, i.e. a certain standard of education, ability to support themselves and not be a burden on society, be willing to learn English well enough to follow directions and obey laws written in English, a basic understanding of constitutional principles and law, and usually renouncing allegiance/citizenship in all other countries. And if some people wanting to immigrate can't meet those qualifications or nobody from some countries can qualify, too bad.

White (also black, brown, etc) Christian nationalists who embrace the MAGA vision appreciate his kind of honesty. "Woke' Democrats take him out of his full context to deliberately and maliciously pretend he is saying something else.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The MAGA vision is a strong, independent, prosperous America that promotes maximum possible liberty, choice, option, and possibilities for all Americans.

If that is MAGA koolaid in your eyes, I want every citizen to drink it. And I concur with the Founders that it is best accomplished with Christian principles of fair play, justice, honor, integrity, personal responsibility, compassion.

No thanks to that.

 

[Foxfyre]

Sorry, Christian nationalism which basically seeks to establish a Theocracy is antithetical to both leftist values and patriotism

Only in dishonest 'woke' propaganda. I'll go with the dictionary/encyclopedia definition myself.

 

[Foxfyre]

Then why is there no mention of Christianity in the Constitution?

I was very clear in my post on that point. I can recommend a good remedial reading course for you.

 

[Foxfyre]

There were Christians among the Founders – no deists – but the key Founders who were most responsible for the founding documents (Declaration of Independence and Constitution) and who had the most influence were theistic rationalists. They did not intend to create a Christian nation.

The Faith of the Founding Fathers - The Master's University - TMU​

Try re-reading my post on that. They definitely DID want a Christian nation but one that was voluntarily Christian and not one in which the government mandated that everybody had to be Christian.

 

[Flash]

What is Christian nationalism and why it raises concerns about threats to democracy

White Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a lot as of late. Brad Onishi is a former evangelical minister who once identified as a Christian nationalist himself. He left the church in 2005 and began studying religion and extremism. Laura Barrón-López spoke with Onishi to better...

www.pbs.org

(snidbit)
The phrase white Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a bit recently, but what does it really mean?
Christian nationalism is an ideology that is based around the idea that this is a Christian nation, that this was founded as a Christian nation, and, therefore, it should be a Christian nation today and should be so in the future.
According to survey data, Christian nationalists agree with statements like the federal government should declare the United States of America a Christian nation. Our laws should be based on Christian values. being a Christian is important if you want to be a real American.
One, it's built around the idea that Christians are called to a new transformation or reformation of the United States. These are Christians who want to revolutionize the way that our country looks, and to make it great again in terms of being a Christian nation.
They were at the very avant-garde of trying to get the 2020 election overturned in the wake of Joe Biden's victory and mobilizing folks to be at January 6.
I think white evangelicals are the group we think of when we think of white Christian nationalism, and for good reason.
These are folks who, when we think about the Iowa caucuses, in 2016 Trump's white evangelical voters were about 20 percent of his share of voters in that cycle. Just a few weeks ago, in 2024, that grew to well over 50 percent.
White evangelicals remain committed to the MAGA movement.

Comment:
This is Democrat boilerplate propaganda hate and fear mongering.
The Radical Left is using hate and fear for the Evangelicals as one of their campaign tools.
They are saying that we must fear the Evangelicals.
This is part of the pattern of the Radical Left's cultural loathing of Wasps.
Can you imagine using this sort of campaign hate mongering against any other religious group?
When the Radical Left uses their term "threat against democracy" it actually means a threat against the corrupt Democrat Party's quest for one-party hegemony.
Their version of "democracy" is one-party tyranny.

The nine million Illegals that Potatohead let flood in and massive big city ghetto crime are less of a threat than an American Patriot going to church on Sunday??? LOL!

 

[Foxfyre]

No thanks to that.

Spoken like a true 'woke' neo-Marxist who wants exactly the opposite of the vision MAGA's hope for.

 

[Bezukhov]

Try re-reading my post on that. They definitely DID want a Christian nation but one that was voluntarily Christian and not one in which the government mandated that everybody had to be Christian.

Christian Nationalists don't want to mandate that everyone be a Christian, rather that they be allowed to make life miserable for those who aren't Christian.

 

[toobfreak]

There are Trump voters who vote for him holding their nose, because he is better, in their view then the alternative

That accounts for all I've met.

and there are those who would support him even if he shot a person in the middle of the street in broad daylight.

Really? Has that happened? I thought that is what TRUMP said years ago just as a metaphor for their love of him!

The latter is a cult.

At least one kind of cult. Then, there are those who would vote for Joe Biden despite knowing he is a plagiarist, and would vote for him again despite being a perv, a self-serving politician whose family takes bribes from China and others in exchange for using their office for favors, despite giving them more covid deaths than what Biden said Trump didn't deserve being president for, for the horrendous Afghan pullout, for a two year war costing us a quarter of a trillion dollars, for $7.00/gallon gasoline, food shortages, skyrocketing inflation and debt, energy shortages, and massive spikes in mortgage rates, for a doubling in crime, countless business closings, and even for fomenting an invasion of potentially deadly, costly people numbering in the 10-15 million that is due to cost us trillions more in debt. At best.

THAT is a cult.

I want political leaders engaged in representing my interests

Exactly and the above are none of my interests. We need a president who will focus on America's needs first and foremost. Not a president who can't walk, talk, think, bike, climb, remember or navigate, who gets up under red lights to tell America that half her people are dangerous domestic terrorists.

 

[Foxfyre]

Christian Nationalists don't want to mandate that everyone be a Christian, rather that they be allowed to make life miserable for those who aren't Christian.

Again pure nonsense from the pro-Marxist, anti-Christian crowd.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Spoken like a true 'woke' neo-Marxist who wants exactly the opposite of the vision MAGA's hope for.

The opposite? No. But I don't want what you're selling, that's for sure.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

PBS Bigots....

No, bigots are people that hate people and ideas without knowing much about either.

When you make a sound argument from the ground up for why something is bad, that's not bigotry.

Duh.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Call out the white Christian nationalists, and they come a'runnin' like they heard the dinner bell...

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What is Christian nationalism and why it raises concerns about threats to democracy

White Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a lot as of late. Brad Onishi is a former evangelical minister who once identified as a Christian nationalist himself. He left the church in 2005 and began studying religion and extremism. Laura Barrón-López spoke with Onishi to better...

www.pbs.org

(snidbit)
The phrase white Christian nationalism has been in the headlines quite a bit recently, but what does it really mean?
Christian nationalism is an ideology that is based around the idea that this is a Christian nation, that this was founded as a Christian nation, and, therefore, it should be a Christian nation today and should be so in the future.
According to survey data, Christian nationalists agree with statements like the federal government should declare the United States of America a Christian nation. Our laws should be based on Christian values. being a Christian is important if you want to be a real American.
One, it's built around the idea that Christians are called to a new transformation or reformation of the United States. These are Christians who want to revolutionize the way that our country looks, and to make it great again in terms of being a Christian nation.
They were at the very avant-garde of trying to get the 2020 election overturned in the wake of Joe Biden's victory and mobilizing folks to be at January 6.
I think white evangelicals are the group we think of when we think of white Christian nationalism, and for good reason.
These are folks who, when we think about the Iowa caucuses, in 2016 Trump's white evangelical voters were about 20 percent of his share of voters in that cycle. Just a few weeks ago, in 2024, that grew to well over 50 percent.
White evangelicals remain committed to the MAGA movement.

Comment:
This is Democrat boilerplate propaganda hate and fear mongering.
The Radical Left is using hate and fear for the Evangelicals as one of their campaign tools.
They are saying that we must fear the Evangelicals.
This is part of the pattern of the Radical Left's cultural loathing of Wasps.
Can you imagine using this sort of campaign hate mongering against any other religious group?
When the Radical Left uses their term "threat against democracy" it actually means a threat against the corrupt Democrat Party's quest for one-party hegemony.
Their version of "democracy" is one-party tyranny.

Codswallop! These people are dangerous and want to destroy our Constitutional Republic and replace it with a Theocracy. You people most likely know this but you lie about thinking that you can fool us. Either that you are serious brainwashed . And now the Speaker of the House is one of these people

House Speaker Mike Johnson is set to keynote an event for lawmakers who promote conservative Christian dominance — the latest connection illustrating his close relationship with Christian extremists.

House speaker Mike Johnson is the keynote speaker at an event for a National Association of Lawmakers tonight. The group is working to take conservative Christian control at every level of government.

AILSA CHANG, HOST:

Now, their views go further than abolishing abortion nationwide or walking back same-sex marital rights. At a conference that this group held earlier this year, one speaker defended the idea of the death penalty for gay people.

Garlow is a hardline anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage activist. He's also a leader in the NAR. Garlow promotes a theocratic vision for America, one where Christians control every major aspect of society.

GARLOW: The seven spheres of influence are the home, the church, civil government, business, which includes technology, arts and entertainment, which includes professional sports, education, and the last one is media.

And I concur with the Founders that it is best accomplished with Christian principles of fair play, justice, honor, integrity, personal responsibility, compassion.

Right !! Just like Trump and his moronic MAGA minios!! You have to be fucking joking!!

 

[Rambunctious]

No, bigots are peole like you that hate peole and ideas without knowing much about either.

When you make a sound argument from the ground up for why something is bad, that's not bigotry.

Duh.

Bigots are people who notice skin color race and religion first and dislike one or more... people who think differently from you are not your enemy... so why do you insist on treating them as if they were?...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Bigots are people who notice skin color race and religion first and dislike one or more...

Which is the opposite of a well reasoned argument.

Of course, you would actually have to read the material before commenting.

But what use is that, to a confident bigot?

 

[DudleySmith]

PBS Bigots....

They went way over the top before the traitor Hillary ran against Trump.

 

[DudleySmith]

This is all about extremist politicians attempting to make Christianity identify with the political divide. It can only become a negative factor for the churches if it has any success on driving the political left away.

lol it wasn't Christians who politicized homosexual fetishism and normalization of mental illnesses, and now promote extreme sexual mutilation to 6 year olds as school policies, weirdo.

 

[martybegan]

Are you a MAGAmike type?

I'd vote for DeSantis before Trump, but Trump before any SJW moron Democrat.