Pay $43,000 for an Appendectomy? Or less than $3,000?

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Great true story about Private Medical Care in Mexico

My son had an attack of appendicitis late Saturday night. I knew that the Obamacare inflated prices for surgery in the U.S. would be ridiculous and that the service would likely be impersonal, involve long waits, and be nerve-wracking. I have friends in the medical field so I inquired just for grins. The price for the latest routine appendectomy in my area was, my jaw dropped, $43,000. I read on-line that the average cost for an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
That is fucking crazy!! $43,000 to remove an appendix? So he went to Mexico.

I opted for the nearby private Catholic hospital in Mexico driving past a Catholic hospital in the U.S. en route. I also drove past the state run socialist hospital in Mexico which of course has deplorable service and doesn’t serve Americans anyway. Most of the private hospitals in Mexico have great service, modern equipment and procedures, and affordable prices. You can actually have extensive conversations with surgeons and the rest of the medical staff. They are very patient, respectful, and understanding. We arrived on a Sunday morning. This counted as an emergency after-hours visit. The fees listed below are higher because of the Sunday call-out for surgical personnel and the extra fee for the emergency room doctor that could have been avoided if I had come during normal business hours.


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Great true story about Private Medical Care in Mexico

My son had an attack of appendicitis late Saturday night. I knew that the Obamacare inflated prices for surgery in the U.S. would be ridiculous and that the service would likely be impersonal, involve long waits, and be nerve-wracking. I have friends in the medical field so I inquired just for grins. The price for the latest routine appendectomy in my area was, my jaw dropped, $43,000. I read on-line that the average cost for an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
That is fucking crazy!! $43,000 to remove an appendix? So he went to Mexico.

I opted for the nearby private Catholic hospital in Mexico driving past a Catholic hospital in the U.S. en route. I also drove past the state run socialist hospital in Mexico which of course has deplorable service and doesn’t serve Americans anyway. Most of the private hospitals in Mexico have great service, modern equipment and procedures, and affordable prices. You can actually have extensive conversations with surgeons and the rest of the medical staff. They are very patient, respectful, and understanding. We arrived on a Sunday morning. This counted as an emergency after-hours visit. The fees listed below are higher because of the Sunday call-out for surgical personnel and the extra fee for the emergency room doctor that could have been avoided if I had come during normal business hours.


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A lot of the Amish travel to Mexico to get things like hernias fixed.
 
DIY is the cheapest...
At the lowest end you don't get what you want. At the high end you get ripped off. I'd say that private Mexican hospital is somewhere in the middle and US healthcare is a really expensive ripoff, with an emphasis on expensive and not so much emphasis on quality.
 
We need to build a wall to keep Americans out
 
DIY is the cheapest...
At the lowest end you don't get what you want. At the high end you get ripped off. I'd say that private Mexican hospital is somewhere in the middle and US healthcare is a really expensive ripoff, with an emphasis on expensive and not so much emphasis on quality.
The quality is fine here in the USA yet it cost more because we are not a second rate nation like Mexico...P.S. it's a socialist nation also that must be why their medical care is cheaper....
 
Difference, Info. Consumer Prices in United States are 115.48% higher than in Mexico. Consumer Prices Including Rent in United States are 155.15% higher than in Mexico. Rent Prices in United States are 309.16% higher than in Mexico. Restaurant Prices in United States are 133.83% higher than in Mexico.

Cost Of Living Comparison Between Mexico And United States
 
Great true story about Private Medical Care in Mexico

My son had an attack of appendicitis late Saturday night. I knew that the Obamacare inflated prices for surgery in the U.S. would be ridiculous and that the service would likely be impersonal, involve long waits, and be nerve-wracking. I have friends in the medical field so I inquired just for grins. The price for the latest routine appendectomy in my area was, my jaw dropped, $43,000. I read on-line that the average cost for an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
That is fucking crazy!! $43,000 to remove an appendix? So he went to Mexico.

I opted for the nearby private Catholic hospital in Mexico driving past a Catholic hospital in the U.S. en route. I also drove past the state run socialist hospital in Mexico which of course has deplorable service and doesn’t serve Americans anyway. Most of the private hospitals in Mexico have great service, modern equipment and procedures, and affordable prices. You can actually have extensive conversations with surgeons and the rest of the medical staff. They are very patient, respectful, and understanding. We arrived on a Sunday morning. This counted as an emergency after-hours visit. The fees listed below are higher because of the Sunday call-out for surgical personnel and the extra fee for the emergency room doctor that could have been avoided if I had come during normal business hours.


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Mexico has universal healthcare
 
Great true story about Private Medical Care in Mexico

My son had an attack of appendicitis late Saturday night. I knew that the Obamacare inflated prices for surgery in the U.S. would be ridiculous and that the service would likely be impersonal, involve long waits, and be nerve-wracking. I have friends in the medical field so I inquired just for grins. The price for the latest routine appendectomy in my area was, my jaw dropped, $43,000. I read on-line that the average cost for an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
That is fucking crazy!! $43,000 to remove an appendix? So he went to Mexico.

I opted for the nearby private Catholic hospital in Mexico driving past a Catholic hospital in the U.S. en route. I also drove past the state run socialist hospital in Mexico which of course has deplorable service and doesn’t serve Americans anyway. Most of the private hospitals in Mexico have great service, modern equipment and procedures, and affordable prices. You can actually have extensive conversations with surgeons and the rest of the medical staff. They are very patient, respectful, and understanding. We arrived on a Sunday morning. This counted as an emergency after-hours visit. The fees listed below are higher because of the Sunday call-out for surgical personnel and the extra fee for the emergency room doctor that could have been avoided if I had come during normal business hours.


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Mexico has universal healthcare

This is about PRIVATE MEDICAL CARE in Mexico, not the shitty universal care they offer their peasants. Please try to keep up :thup:
 
Great true story about Private Medical Care in Mexico

My son had an attack of appendicitis late Saturday night. I knew that the Obamacare inflated prices for surgery in the U.S. would be ridiculous and that the service would likely be impersonal, involve long waits, and be nerve-wracking. I have friends in the medical field so I inquired just for grins. The price for the latest routine appendectomy in my area was, my jaw dropped, $43,000. I read on-line that the average cost for an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
That is fucking crazy!! $43,000 to remove an appendix? So he went to Mexico.

I opted for the nearby private Catholic hospital in Mexico driving past a Catholic hospital in the U.S. en route. I also drove past the state run socialist hospital in Mexico which of course has deplorable service and doesn’t serve Americans anyway. Most of the private hospitals in Mexico have great service, modern equipment and procedures, and affordable prices. You can actually have extensive conversations with surgeons and the rest of the medical staff. They are very patient, respectful, and understanding. We arrived on a Sunday morning. This counted as an emergency after-hours visit. The fees listed below are higher because of the Sunday call-out for surgical personnel and the extra fee for the emergency room doctor that could have been avoided if I had come during normal business hours.


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Mexico has universal healthcare

This is about PRIVATE MEDICAL CARE in Mexico, not the shitty universal care they offer their peasants. Please try to keep up :thup:
Same price for both. Let’s copy their system. I fully support you.
 
One of the main reasons healthcare is much more expensive in the US,than the rest of the world. Is the fact every country negotiates the prices with the providers. The US is just one of the two that don’t negotiate for lower prices.
That’s like walking in an auto dealership and paying sticker price. So other countries are getting the same healthcare and getting the exact same pharaceuticals but at a much lower price.
So the price you pay for smaller government, is paying double for healthcare.
 
One of the main reasons healthcare is much more expensive in the US,than the rest of the world. Is the fact every country negotiates the prices with the providers. The US is just one of the two that don’t negotiate for lower prices.
That’s like walking in an auto dealership and paying sticker price. So other countries are getting the same healthcare and getting the exact same pharaceuticals but at a much lower price.
So the price you pay for smaller government, is paying double for healthcare.

I don't get what the last bit has to do with anything, but you've clearly identified the problem with the US health care market. And the reason no one negotiates is that no one is paying their own way. If you're insured, you have exactly no reason to negotiate for lower prices.
 
One of the main reasons healthcare is much more expensive in the US,than the rest of the world. Is the fact every country negotiates the prices with the providers. The US is just one of the two that don’t negotiate for lower prices.
That’s like walking in an auto dealership and paying sticker price. So other countries are getting the same healthcare and getting the exact same pharaceuticals but at a much lower price.
So the price you pay for smaller government, is paying double for healthcare.

I don't get what the last bit has to do with anything, but you've clearly identified the problem with the US health care market. And the reason no one negotiates is that no one is paying their own way. If you're insured, you have exactly no reason to negotiate for lower prices.
insurance premiums are very high and should be negotiated down...we do feel the effects of that and so do our employers, so why aren't they???

that should force the insurance company to negotiate for lower prices with the doctors and hospitals, shouldn't it???
 
One of the main reasons healthcare is much more expensive in the US,than the rest of the world. Is the fact every country negotiates the prices with the providers. The US is just one of the two that don’t negotiate for lower prices.
That’s like walking in an auto dealership and paying sticker price. So other countries are getting the same healthcare and getting the exact same pharaceuticals but at a much lower price.
So the price you pay for smaller government, is paying double for healthcare.

I don't get what the last bit has to do with anything, but you've clearly identified the problem with the US health care market. And the reason no one negotiates is that no one is paying their own way. If you're insured, you have exactly no reason to negotiate for lower prices.
insurance premiums are very high and should be negotiated down...we do feel the effects of that and so do our employers, so why aren't they???

that should force the insurance company to negotiate for lower prices with the doctors and hospitals, shouldn't it???

Because, ultimately, insurance is supposed to pay for the inflated health care prices. As long as the health care prices are rising unhindered insurance premiums will go up as well. There's no way around that.
 
Great true story about Private Medical Care in Mexico

My son had an attack of appendicitis late Saturday night. I knew that the Obamacare inflated prices for surgery in the U.S. would be ridiculous and that the service would likely be impersonal, involve long waits, and be nerve-wracking. I have friends in the medical field so I inquired just for grins. The price for the latest routine appendectomy in my area was, my jaw dropped, $43,000. I read on-line that the average cost for an appendectomy in the U.S. is $33,000.
That is fucking crazy!! $43,000 to remove an appendix? So he went to Mexico.

I opted for the nearby private Catholic hospital in Mexico driving past a Catholic hospital in the U.S. en route. I also drove past the state run socialist hospital in Mexico which of course has deplorable service and doesn’t serve Americans anyway. Most of the private hospitals in Mexico have great service, modern equipment and procedures, and affordable prices. You can actually have extensive conversations with surgeons and the rest of the medical staff. They are very patient, respectful, and understanding. We arrived on a Sunday morning. This counted as an emergency after-hours visit. The fees listed below are higher because of the Sunday call-out for surgical personnel and the extra fee for the emergency room doctor that could have been avoided if I had come during normal business hours.


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You forgot to mention they also took a kidney as a tip.
 
One of the main reasons healthcare is much more expensive in the US,than the rest of the world. Is the fact every country negotiates the prices with the providers. The US is just one of the two that don’t negotiate for lower prices.
That’s like walking in an auto dealership and paying sticker price. So other countries are getting the same healthcare and getting the exact same pharaceuticals but at a much lower price.
So the price you pay for smaller government, is paying double for healthcare.

I don't get what the last bit has to do with anything, but you've clearly identified the problem with the US health care market. And the reason no one negotiates is that no one is paying their own way. If you're insured, you have exactly no reason to negotiate for lower prices.

The countries who have negotiated the costs from their providers are exercising cost controls. All these counties have socialized healthcare. The citizen's "premiums" are included in their taxes.They are paying their way.
In the US, that would be looked at Big Government or socialism.
Based on the skyrocketing premiums, coupled with the high deductibles, this country is heading towards being a "sick country". Fewer and fewer Americans can afford to get sick. It's getting out of control.
This ongoing scenario is a threat to the US economy. Healthcare is eating up our GDP. This severely threatens our economy, which is driven by 80% by consumer spending.
Read this: https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/75441/report.pdf
It's quite evident that insurance companies negotiating costs is doing the job, compared to what the rest of the world pays.
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