Paul Ryan Defended Stimulus -- When George W. Bush Wanted It In 2002 (VIDEO)

[Charles_Main]

By Ryan Grimm

WASHINGTON - When Congressman Paul Ryan has been asked the past few years about the value of stimulus to the sagging economy and the nation's jobless, the Wisconsin Republican has dismissed it as meaningless, and dubbed it "sugar-high economics."

But that's when President Obama is pushing for the spending. When it was President George W. Bush arguing for more stimulus to boost a slow economy in the early 2000s, Ryan's economic analysis was entirely different.

"What we're trying to accomplish today with the passage of this third stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed," Ryan said, in comments unearthed by MSNBC's "Up with Chris Hayes" and provided to HuffPost. "What we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they've passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work."

Video of the comments will be aired at 8:00 a.m. Sunday on MSNBC.

More: Paul Ryan Defended Stimulus -- When George W. Bush Wanted It In 2002 (VIDEO)

NOTE: Ryan is a hypocritical two-faced un-American lying piece of wingnut shit.

Some how I must have missed Bush wanting a Several Hundred BILLION dollar Stimulus.

Hack.


You are Trying to Compare Bills that spent a tiny Fraction of what Obama spent, and wants to Spend again.

Again Hack.

 

[nitroz]

Oh, look.

Another flip-flopping politician.

 

[Lakhota]

By Ryan Grimm

WASHINGTON - When Congressman Paul Ryan has been asked the past few years about the value of stimulus to the sagging economy and the nation's jobless, the Wisconsin Republican has dismissed it as meaningless, and dubbed it "sugar-high economics."

But that's when President Obama is pushing for the spending. When it was President George W. Bush arguing for more stimulus to boost a slow economy in the early 2000s, Ryan's economic analysis was entirely different.

"What we're trying to accomplish today with the passage of this third stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed," Ryan said, in comments unearthed by MSNBC's "Up with Chris Hayes" and provided to HuffPost. "What we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they've passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work."

Video of the comments will be aired at 8:00 a.m. Sunday on MSNBC.

More: Paul Ryan Defended Stimulus -- When George W. Bush Wanted It In 2002 (VIDEO)

NOTE: Ryan is a hypocritical two-faced un-American lying piece of wingnut shit.

Some how I must have missed Bush wanting a Several Hundred BILLION dollar Stimulus.

Hack.


You are Trying to Compare Bills that spent a tiny Fraction of what Obama spent, and wants to Spend again.

Again Hack.

Oh, so now you're diverting away from Ryan's hypocrisy to the "size" of the stimulus. Well, the overall size of all Bush stimulus packages put America in the deep hole it's currently in. BTW, Bush also passed a fairly large stimulus in 2008, called the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 for about $152 billion.

 

[Lakhota]

Wingnuts really fucked up President Clinton's balanced budget. Sad...

 

[auditor0007]

BTW: Just what was the 2002 stimulus ?

From what I recall it was tax rebate and a tax cut.

No government picking of losers and bigger losers (like Solyndra)...essentially putting themselves in the middle of the economy.

When Obama wanted his stimulus...he should have just turned that money back to us. We'd be in better shape. Everyone on the right is in favor of tax cuts and tax rebates.

Obama, LIKE BUSH, has not cut the spending necessary to pay for the stimulus.

42% of the stimulus was tax cuts.

 

[Lakhota]

Conservatives have routinely mocked Vice President Joe Biden for arguing that in order to reduce the deficit in the long run, the government needs to spend more now; that sentiment is lampooned in a recent pro-Republican campaign ad. But Biden's analysis -- that the government needs to juice the economy to promote growth, or else revenue will fall long term -- is one that Ryan himself articulated cogently back when the GOP was urging stimulus. Ryan called such stimulus a "constructive answer" worked out on "a bipartisan basis." Opponents of stimulus, Ryan said, ought to "drop the demagoguery."

"We've got to get the engine of economic growth growing again because we now know, because of recession, we don't have the revenues that we wanted to, we don't have the revenues we need, to fix Medicare, to fix Social Security, to fix these issues. We've got to get Americans back to work. Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis. I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who've lost their jobs," Ryan said.

From the OP link. Just more proof of Ryan's extraordinary hypocrisy.

 

[Bfgrn]

Paul Ryan is a partisan HACK. HERE is direct quotes from the lips of Paul 'Goebbels' Ryan:

President George W. Bush arguing for more stimulus to boost a slow economy in the early 2000s, Ryan's economic analysis was entirely different.

"What we're trying to accomplish today with the passage of this third stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed," Ryan said, in comments unearthed by MSNBC's "Up with Chris Hayes" and provided to HuffPost. "What we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they've passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work."

Video of the comments will be aired at 8:00 a.m. Sunday on MSNBC.

"In recessions unemployment lags on well after a recovery has taken place," Ryan accurately noted in 2002.

Conservatives have routinely mocked Vice President Joe Biden for arguing that in order to reduce the deficit in the long run, the government needs to spend more now; that sentiment is lampooned in a recent pro-Republican campaign ad. But Biden's analysis -- that the government needs to juice the economy to promote growth, or else revenue will fall long term -- is one that Ryan himself articulated cogently back when the GOP was urging stimulus. Ryan called such stimulus a "constructive answer" worked out on "a bipartisan basis." Opponents of stimulus, Ryan said, ought to "drop the demagoguery."

"We've got to get the engine of economic growth growing again because we now know, because of recession, we don't have the revenues that we wanted to, we don't have the revenues we need, to fix Medicare, to fix Social Security, to fix these issues. We've got to get Americans back to work. Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis. I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who've lost their jobs," Ryan said.

Bush's stimulus, which included an extension of jobless benefits and resulted in checks being mailed to millions of Americans, was signed in March 2002.

"We have a lot of laid off workers, and more layoffs are occurring," the congressman continued. "And we know, as a historical fact, that even if our economy begins to slowly recover, unemployment is going to linger on and on well after that recovery takes place. What we have been trying to do starting in October and into December and now is to try and get people back to work. The things we're trying to pass in this bill are the time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs."

While Obama has been in office, Ryan has voted against extending unemployment benefits and against helping laid-off workers pay for health insurance by subsidizing COBRA payments.

Such actions are difficult to square with 2002's Paul Ryan.

"It's more than just giving someone an unemployment check," he said then. "It's also helping those people with their health insurance while they've lost their jobs and more important than just that unemployment check, it's to do what we can to give people a paycheck."

Paul Ryan Defended Stimulus -- When George W. Bush Wanted It In 2002 (VIDEO)

 

[Stephanie]

By Ryan Grimm

WASHINGTON - When Congressman Paul Ryan has been asked the past few years about the value of stimulus to the sagging economy and the nation's jobless, the Wisconsin Republican has dismissed it as meaningless, and dubbed it "sugar-high economics."

But that's when President Obama is pushing for the spending. When it was President George W. Bush arguing for more stimulus to boost a slow economy in the early 2000s, Ryan's economic analysis was entirely different.

"What we're trying to accomplish today with the passage of this third stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed," Ryan said, in comments unearthed by MSNBC's "Up with Chris Hayes" and provided to HuffPost. "What we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they've passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work."

Video of the comments will be aired at 8:00 a.m. Sunday on MSNBC.

More: Paul Ryan Defended Stimulus -- When George W. Bush Wanted It In 2002 (VIDEO)

NOTE: Ryan is a hypocritical two-faced un-American lying piece of wingnut shit.

my gawd, how do you live day to day...you have SO much on those shoulders of yours..
must be rough

 

[Lakhota]

Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

 

[Listening]

More: Paul Ryan Defended Stimulus -- When George W. Bush Wanted It In 2002 (VIDEO)

NOTE: Ryan is a hypocritical two-faced un-American lying piece of wingnut shit.

Some how I must have missed Bush wanting a Several Hundred BILLION dollar Stimulus.

Hack.


You are Trying to Compare Bills that spent a tiny Fraction of what Obama spent, and wants to Spend again.

Again Hack.

Oh, so now you're diverting away from Ryan's hypocrisy to the "size" of the stimulus. Well, the overall size of all Bush stimulus packages put America in the deep hole it's currently in. BTW, Bush also passed a fairly large stimulus in 2008, called the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 for about $152 billion.

I really hope this is some retard posting who hacked your account.

Otherwise, I really do fear for this country.

You should not be allowed to breed.

 

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Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

Barack Obama Is A Liar | RedState

 

[Stephanie]

Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

too bad, get used to Vice President Ryan
then you can really have a shit fit

 

[Listening]

Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

too bad, get used to Vice President Ryan
then you can really have a shit fit

There won't be much of Lakhota left if he does have one.

 

[Bfgrn]

Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

Barack Obama Is A Liar | RedState

And your proof is a childish right wing blogger on a site owned by a corrupt company that rips off authors?

Eagle Publishing "orchestrates and participates in a fraudulent, deceptively concealed and self-dealing scheme to divert book sales away from retail outlets and to wholly owned subsidiary organizations within the Eagle conglomerate."

Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.
Edmund Burke

 

[Listening]

Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

Barack Obama Is A Liar | RedState

And your proof is a childish right wing blogger on a site owned by a corrupt company that rips off authors?

Eagle Publishing "orchestrates and participates in a fraudulent, deceptively concealed and self-dealing scheme to divert book sales away from retail outlets and to wholly owned subsidiary organizations within the Eagle conglomerate."

Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.
Edmund Burke

And you proof is ?

I find it funny, but also sad, that you are so caught up in how right you are that you won't even live up the standards you seem to expect from others.

Paul Ryan is going to fix Medicare but good.

And Obama is a liar.

 

[Stephanie]

Ryan and Romney are both strangers to the truth.

Barack Obama Is A Liar | RedState

And your proof is a childish right wing blogger on a site owned by a corrupt company that rips off authors?

Eagle Publishing "orchestrates and participates in a fraudulent, deceptively concealed and self-dealing scheme to divert book sales away from retail outlets and to wholly owned subsidiary organizations within the Eagle conglomerate."

Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.
Edmund Burke

we don't see you bitch about the left wing blogger site, HUFFERPOST

.February 11, 2011 7:00 AM PrintText Why Did Arianna Huffington Sell HuffPo? Payoff and Paywalls, Baby!
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ByErik Sherman .
As the dust settles a bit around the AOL (AOL) acquisition of the Huffington Post, there are signs that many bloggers and readers who cranked out posts or comments for no pay are upset. But, really, what did they expect?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505124_...fington-sell-huffpo-payoff-and-paywalls-baby/

 

[Lakhota]

Well, at least Fox News is more credible than Beck, Breitbart, and Limbaugh...

Study: Watching Fox News Actually Makes You Stupid | Jillian Rayfield | Politics News | Rolling Stone

 

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Well, at least Fox News is more credible than Beck, Breitbart, and Limbaugh...

Study: Watching Fox News Actually Makes You Stupid | Jillian Rayfield | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Rollling Stone writing on Fox News !!!

 

[Bfgrn]

Barack Obama Is A Liar | RedState

And your proof is a childish right wing blogger on a site owned by a corrupt company that rips off authors?

Eagle Publishing "orchestrates and participates in a fraudulent, deceptively concealed and self-dealing scheme to divert book sales away from retail outlets and to wholly owned subsidiary organizations within the Eagle conglomerate."

Among a people generally corrupt liberty cannot long exist.
Edmund Burke

And you proof is ?

I find it funny, but also sad, that you are so caught up in how right you are that you won't even live up the standards you seem to expect from others.

Paul Ryan is going to fix Medicare but good.

And Obama is a liar.

Your childish blogger is a liar. Obama was telling the truth, and you are too obtuse to know it.

Paul Ryan’s Surprising Positions on Women’s Health and Reproductive Rights

• Sponsored “Personhood” Bills to Outlaw ALL Abortions, Ban Common Forms of Contraception, and Prohibit In-Vitro Fertilization. Congressman Ryan co-sponsored several “personhood” bills that would give legal rights to a fetus starting at conception. The latest Ryan “personhood” bill, which Ryan and its other co-sponsors (all Republicans in the House of Representatives) called the “Sanctity of Human Life Act,” like his previous measures, declared that a fertilized egg “shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood.” This would outlaw all abortion, some forms of contraception (including IUD’s and the pill), and in-vitro fertilization. This bill was introduced in the 2009-2010 Congress, failed to pass, and Congressman Ryan re-introduced the bill as late as January, 2011.

Such “Personhood bills” have been considered so radical that when placed on the ballot for a referendum vote of citizens, have failed to pass across the country — in states including Nevada, Oklahoma, Virginia, Florida, Colorado and even in ultra-Conservative Mississippi.

• Expresses Consistent Opposition to ALL Abortions — Even in Cases of Rape or Incest or Where the Mother’s Life is at Risk. Congressman Ryan has said repeatedly that he is against ALL abortions, even in cases of rape and incest, or where the Mother’s life is at risk. In July, 2010, he told the Weekly Standard, a Conservative publication, “I’m as pro-life as a person gets. You’re not going to have a truce. Judges are going to come up. Issues come up, they’re unavoidable, and I’m never going to not vote pro-life.”

• Cast 59 Votes Against Women’s Choice in Congress. Congressman Ryan has consistently sponsored legislation and has voted to ban all abortions. According to NARAL, “During his time in the House, Rep. Ryan has cast 59 votes on abortion and other reproductive rights issues. All of these votes were anti-choice.

• Supported Allowing Emergency Rooms to Deny Emergency Abortion Where the Woman is Likely to Die Without It. Congressman Ryan supported a highly controversial bill that many women called the “Let Women Die Act,” which would have allowed hospitals to refuse to provide emergency abortion care to a woman, even if her life is at severe risk.

• Wants to Overturn Roe v. Wade. Congressman Ryan strongly favors overturning Roe v. Wade. In his own words, he has compared the decision (which guaranteed a woman’s right to choose and have control over her own reproductive health) to the Dred Scott Decision (the 1857 Supreme Court decision that allowed slavery to continue at that time).

• Sponsored Legislation For Forced Ultrasounds. Congressman Ryan co-sponsored the so-called “Ultrasound Informed Consent Act” (H.R.3805, 112th Cong. § 2 – in 2012) requiring a woman to undergo a forced ultrasound even if not medically necessary before receiving abortion services, and even if against the woman’s will.

• Voted Repeatedly to Deny Military Women Access to Abortion, Even if They Pay for It Themselves. Congressman Ryan repeatedly voted to deny women in the military – who defend our freedom overseas – the right to use their own, private funds for abortion care at military hospitals. (See e.g. the many amendments to ban availability of abortions to military women that Congressman Ryan voted for from 1999 through 2007, as listed in Note 9 to NARAL’s Report.)

• Sponsored Legislation and Voted to Defund Planned Parenthood. Congressman Ryan sponsored legislation and voted consistently to defund Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization that provides low-cost preventive health care to millions of American women — and is the only health care provider that many women can afford or access.Representative Ryan and other Republicans have consistently misrepresented what percentage of the care provided by Planned Parenthood includes abortions. They have falsely claimed that over 90% of the care provided by Planned Parenthood consists of abortions — an assertion called blatantly FALSE by PolitiFact. In fact, only 3% of the health care services provided by Planned Parenthood involve abortions, and over 97% of services include preventive health care for women — including such services as breast cancer screenings, procedures to prevent cervical cancer, ovarian cancer treatment, Pap Smears and HPV Tests, pelvic exams, female infertility treatment, and treatments for infections.

These are just a few of Congressman Ryan’s consistent positions against women’s health and reproductive choice. For a more detailed list, see NARAL’s report on Congressman Paul Ryan.

 

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Planned Parenthood is bulls**t.