Patriots Question 9/11 - Engineers and Architects Question the 9 ...

[glockmail]

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I Feel Sure that Bush Family was in on it!!!

It looked like an implosion at the time!

What enhances my suspicions: Is It is a Memorial! {NOT REBUILT USING THE OLD BLUE PRINTS!

We had an enormous view of our losses FROM WORLD TRADE MISMANAGEMENT! ~~~ IN PORT & EXPORT NEED TO BE "BALANCED"!

MOST OF ALL! BUSH NEEDED A WAR TO KEEP THE PRESIDENCY. HIS MOVE TO RULE THE WORLD! GET A TIGHT GRIP ON U.S. A Scare the World! With his Fight on TERROR ~ WITH MORE TERROR!

KINDA LIKE HIS DAD, WITH DESERT STORM!!! USING BUNKER BUSTERS TO DESTROY DEFENSES!!! Diabolical !!!

WOW I"M IMPRESSED AT YOUR USE OF CAPITALS AND EXCLAMATIONS AND BOLD!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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I Feel Sure that Bush Family was in on it!!!

It looked like an implosion at the time!

What enhances my suspicions: Is It is a Memorial! {NOT REBUILT USING THE OLD BLUE PRINTS!

We had an enormous view of our losses FROM WORLD TRADE MISMANAGEMENT! ~~~ IN PORT & EXPORT NEED TO BE "BALANCED"!

MOST OF ALL! BUSH NEEDED A WAR TO KEEP THE PRESIDENCY. HIS MOVE TO RULE THE WORLD! GET A TIGHT GRIP ON U.S. A Scare the World! With his Fight on TERROR ~ WITH MORE TERROR!

KINDA LIKE HIS DAD, WITH DESERT STORM!!! USING BUNKER BUSTERS TO DESTROY DEFENSES!!! Diabolical !!!

Everybody knows Bush and Cheney were involved.they proffited immensely from it all.thats all been documented.Bush threatened FBI agents with arrest when they told him they had information there were going to be terrorist attacks in new york if they tried to stop it.what a lot of people DONT know is that Clinton is as much involved up to his ears on it as well.He is long time pals with the Bushs,while he was president in fact,there were three different countrys that offered to turn over Bin Laden to him and he had no interest in going after him.It was all over the news back then showing a high ranking military offical come on and say that they had the means to capture Bin Laden but that Clinton told them to back off of him.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Patriots Question 9/11 - Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

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I see your list here Lookout of all these qualified people,was wondering,the thing I dont see which I am surprised about,is that there is not a list of demolition experts who question it.do you by chance have a website that has a listing of those people by chance?

 

[LOki]

It's just amazing how much effort a bunch of retarded douchebags will go through to demonstrate how planes were not responsible for the destruction of the WTC and the Pentagon, but rather that the government used demolition explosives and/or missiles and then cranked up it's scary propaganda machine to perpetrate this elaborate con, involving thousands of witnesses and experts, to convince us all into believing it was planes--as if our government was competent to engineer such a thing; as if our governement, if it were to do such a thing, had no means to simply get planes, fly them into the respective buildings and then say, . . . well, PLANES WERE FLOWN INTO THOSE BUILDINGS!

 

[sparky]

if......we had transparency and clarity in our governance, we wouldn't have threads like this....would we?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

It's just amazing how much effort a bunch of retarded douchebags will go through to demonstrate how planes were not responsible for the destruction of the WTC and the Pentagon, but rather that the government used demolition explosives and/or missiles and then cranked up it's scary propaganda machine to perpetrate this elaborate con, involving thousands of witnesses and experts, to convince us all into believing it was planes--as if our government was competent to engineer such a thing; as if our governement, if it were to do such a thing, had no means to simply get planes, fly them into the respective buildings and then say, . . . well, PLANES WERE FLOWN INTO THOSE BUILDINGS!

Let me guess? you ALSO belive in that OTHER fairy tale commission -the warren commission, in their fairy tale as well that oswald killed kennedy right?

 

[Lookout]

Great Guess!!! I put a wager that you are right.
It just amazes me how many people believe that its possible that there is a giant upright ape like creature roaming around in our woods or that there are little grey big eyed aliens with nothing more to do than fly over their neighbors house, yet, when it comes to hard factual evidence of something their government has done and is doing, they abruptly turn there noses up at it and dismiss it without a single thought of the posability of it being true. It just goes to show how most are so brainwashed by the television and the water and all the propaganda crap our gov. spills out into the public domain and how effective it has worked. I was wondering why some of us escaped the brainwashing techniques and have emergerd unscaved. The only thing I can think of is that I did not watch much t.v. as a child or teenager and I did not drink much water either. I detested the taste of tap water and always drank juice or milk. What is really sad is the ugly multi-headed dragon is starting to rear its ugly head and show its teeth as it has to do now that it is compleeting its goal. It has to surface to be recognized and come to be. There are going to be alot of people that say, how did that happen? When did they do that? What do we do now? Oh my God we're now communints! Why didn't someone tell us or stop it? And my only reply will be...Dumbasses, we tried to tell you, we tried to wake you, we tried to warn you but you just put on your iron clad denial suit of armor and hit the snooze button. You have called us tinfoil hat wearers and a whole slew of other remarks to justify your ignorance and this will be your own psychological demise when the truth hits the fan and you experience all the blight and reformations and changes comming your way that WILL surely kill you!

 

[LOki]

Let me guess? you ALSO belive in that OTHER fairy tale commission -the warren commission, in their fairy tale as well that oswald killed kennedy right?

I certainly would not believe some conspiracy theory that put forth the notion that Kennedy was killed with a sophisticated micro-bomb implanted in his head by a ninja disguised as a barber who gave the guy a hair-cut, and then the "sinister factions" (whatever *that* might be) rolled out the scary government propaganda machine to con us all into believing he was shot--as if those "sinister factions" within our government had no means to simply obtain a gun and shoot him in the head and then say, . . . well, HE WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD!

 

[DiamondDave]

I suggest the history channel research show that recreated the Kennedy assassination... it has a lot of great research, scientific results... so much better than the conspiracy theories or (chuckle) Oliver Stone's farce

 

[eots]

I suggest the history channel research show that recreated the Kennedy assassination... it has a lot of great research, scientific results... so much better than the conspiracy theories or (chuckle) Oliver Stone's farce

maybe that's your problem ..you form all you opinions on the research of conControlledia like the his-story channel.... chuckle.....that simply omits all evidence and testimony that does not fit there a already formed conclusion

 

[eots]

Well well well... another idiot troll 9/11 conspiracy theorist....

so in you shit-ass opinion these men are idiot trolls ???

Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aerontautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT – Pilot and Astronaut. Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission). Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy. Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5). Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project. Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there. Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998. Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University. Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08: "Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.

WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 (“9/11&#8221, and

WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...

An independent, temporary New York City commission (the “Commission&#8221 is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."


Website: Ed Mitchell







Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:
"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 500 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: NASA - Dryden Flight Research Center



Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."




Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[DiveCon]

maybe that's your problem ..you form all you opinions on the research of conControlledia like the his-story channel.... chuckle.....that simply omits all evidence and testimony that does not fit there a already formed conclusion

yeah, they are all part of the conspiracy

 

[eots]

yeah, they are all part of the conspiracy

Please elaborate on this conspiracy theory of yours..that involves these highly decorated patriots...not being real,or unverifiable unknown figures...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

maybe that's your problem ..you form all you opinions on the research of conControlledia like the his-story channel.... chuckle.....that simply omits all evidence and testimony that does not fit there a already formed conclusion

Kinda like how you form all your opinions based on histeria and conspiracy.

Ohh I noticed you quit posting the story about how all the debris on the lawn was from the wrong kind of air craft. Finally figured out that posting that along with the claim there was no debris doesn't wash?

I am STILL waiting to be told what kind of missile does the damage done to the Pentagon. Would have had to be one HUGE missile with hardened armor on it and no explosives loaded at all. And then it just disentigrated so no evidence was left to prove it was a missile.

Remind us all again how an army of FBI Agents were out minutes after the attack collecting film from the path the "missile" took. Ohh and provide a witness that saw a "missile". People SAW the plane.

Then explain where the plane went? What happened to the aircraft, the crew and passengers? Why the people on the plane quit talking on their cell phones after the Pentagon was hit?

Remind us again how some how no one at the three trade center buildings ever saw any construction wires or explosives planted and how that is possible. You are aware that in order to bring those buildings down in a controlled explosion would have required explosives on more than one floor including the basement supports? Yet no one saw a thing.

Remind us how the theory provided does not work? You are aware that once one floor lost support and it and all the floors above it slammed into the one below the buildings would collapse JUST as they did?

Remind us how NO ONE claimed metal melted? Just that it lost strength and bowed allowing the support for the other floors to fail and allowing the upper floors to fall to the lower floors.

Your Conspiracy is so full of holes you have to propose numerous ones to explain it all.

 

[DiveCon]

Please elaborate on this conspiracy theory of yours..that involves these highly decorated patriots...not being real,or unverifiable unknown figures...

its not MINE, its YOURS
you accused the history channel of being part of a cover up
now, you elaborate you how you think that is

 

[eots]

its not MINE, its YOURS
you accused the history channel of being part of a cover up
now, you elaborate you how you think that is

yes popular mechanics and the history channel..just follow the failed 911 report..there is no independent investigation of the event..

but I am interested in this more current conspiracy theory of YOURS
about a web site that use the names and faces links and bios of decorated American hero's..to falsely imply they belive 9-11 was an inside job

 

[DiveCon]

yes popular mechanics and the history channel..just follow the failed 911 report..there is no independent investigation of the event..

but I am interested in this more current conspiracy theory of YOURS
about a web site that use the names and faces links and bios of decorated American hero's..to falsely imply they belive 9-11 was an inside job

thats still your conspiracy
prove those people list on those sites actually know of its existence

ok, so PM and the histroy channel are in on the big 911 coverup

 

[eots]

thats still your conspiracy
prove those people list on those sites actually know of its existence

ok, so PM and the histroy channel are in on the big 911 coverup

the controlled media lack of real journalism and investigation of 911
is complicity with the cover up...

but it is your outrageous conspiracy theory that is in question ,,you have a theory ..that the patriots question 911 site is a manufactured lie that falsely attributes statements of top level military men and highly decorated individuals,,attributing to them statements that could ruin there reputations and careers...do you have any way of supporting this theory ???

 

[DiveCon]

the controlled media lack of real journalism and investigation of 911
is complicity with the cover up...

but it is your outrageous conspiracy theory that is in question ,,you have a theory ..that the patriots question 911 site is a manufactured lie that falsely attributes statements of top level military men and highly decorated individuals,,attributing to them statements that could ruin there reputations and careers...do you have any way of supporting this theory ???

ok, please define "the controled media"
just how many are in this huge conspiracy of yours?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I suggest the history channel research show that recreated the Kennedy assassination... it has a lot of great research, scientific results... so much better than the conspiracy theories or (chuckle) Oliver Stone's farce

A really great one is The Men who killed Kennedy and actually theres very little of Stones movie thats not accurate.