Pat Roberts (R-Kansas) admits he's a sellout to Coporate Lobbyists!

Max Baucus' supporters and constituent's support a public option.

A recent Research 2000 poll found that:

78% of Montana Democrats are in favor of a Public Option, that would be the people who voted for Senator Baucus.

And overall, 47% of Montanans favor a public option and 43% oppose it.

The numbers were even higher in favor of a public option when Baucus was re-elected in November.

Mr Baucus, you are not listening to your constituency, I wonder if that 4 million dollars in donations from the Health Care industry has anything to do with it...

And if asked.. a majority of people would favor guaranteed sex and free beer.... but those also are not the responsibility of government to give

I do agree with you here.

However its only a matter of a few posts before we start arguing about the meaning of "Promote the general welfare" in the constitution ;). I've seen this debate a few too many times :lol:
 
"Central planning and control didn't work well for the Soviet Union. And it isn't working for American health care, either. That's a pretty dramatic indictment. But it's true.
-- Blue Dog Ass Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA) Link
Pure bullshit.
Central planning and control works great for Wal-Mart, Boeing, IBM, Microsteal, McDonald's and the Pentagon.
 
[SIZE=+1]The public knows the GOP is fibbing[/SIZE]
by Gene Lyons
Link
Excerpt:
There have always been two basic arguments for health insurance reform: one based in morality, the other self-interest. For a documented 45,000 persons to die prematurely in America each year because they can't afford proper care is a national disgrace. Almost everybody apart from "conservatives" whose moral imagination is limited to judging other people's sex lives understands that.The current cruel, wasteful system is indefensible. Surely that's why almost three-quarters of physicians polled by the New England Journal of Medicine favor genuine reform. About 63 percent of doctors surveyed nationwide support a public option; 10 percent would prefer a single-payer system, basically Medicare for everybody. For all the hullabaloo, it appears alarmist rhetoric hasn't scared ordinary people as much as it has cable TV anchors. A Bloomberg poll asked which right-wing objections people found legitimate, and which were "scare tactics." Basically, voters rejected GOP rhetoric almost 2-to-1. About 63 percent think Sarah Palin's "death panels" are a distortion, versus 30 percent who fear them. It's 61 to 33 percent on the claim that health reform means government-paid abortions, 58 to 37 percent on the false claim that illegal aliens will get subsidized insurance, etc. In short, hardcore opposition is mainly confined to the Republican "base," itself increasingly confined to the South. Why has Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, started making conciliatory noises? Consider these remarkable statistics: Voters in the Northeast overwhelmingly dislike congressional Republicans. The party's favorability rating there is a minuscule 7, yes 7, percent. Moreover, it's a paltry 13 percent in the Midwest; 14 percent in the West. Only in the South is the GOP politically relevant, with a 50 to 37 percent advantage over Democrats.
 
"Congressman Joe ("You lie!") Wilson is undoubtedly not completely ignorant about how our health care system actually works. After all, in the course of his career, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, he's received $244,196 in contributions from the health-care profession -- and that doesn't even count another $86,150 from the pharmaceutical industry or the $68,000 that came in from hospitals and nursing homes. In fact, if you go to the page at that organization's OpenSecrets.org website on Congressional contributions and start clicking around among the members of Congress, you'll be struck by how many times the health and pharmaceutical industries (and their lobbyists) pop up.
-- TomDispatch.com, Link
 
I am shocked! Not that there is corporate or any other special interest interest in legislation, but that there is a moment of public honesty from a congresscritter.
 

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