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A Bible study group is not a church.
A Bible study group is not a church.
His garage was basically set up as a church, and he broke zoning laws. This has nothing to do with his religion.
A Bible study group is not a church.
His garage was basically set up as a church, and he broke zoning laws. This has nothing to do with his religion.
You do know, don't you, that your side reports people to the government for criticizing Obama, right?Oh, bull shit. I know lots of libs and probably more cons, and I can tell you how most of them feel. The libs, while perhaps not being religious themselves, would not deny religion to others. You see, that is one of the main differences between most libs and most cons. Liberals seem to be generally much more tolerant of other's viewpoints than do cons. Cons seem to be generally less tolerant of other's viewpoints - much less tolerant.
To state it succintly: Libs: I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to my death your right to say it. Cons: If I don't like it, you can't have it.
I reported myself for a while, but no one ever came by to see me. I think the whole thing is a scam.
A Bible study group is not a church.
His garage was basically set up as a church, and he broke zoning laws. This has nothing to do with his religion.
Perhaps he broke zoning laws. Perhaps he didn't. They SAID he did, but were the laws appropriately applied? (Why does a private, noncommercial group meeting on private property need to qualify under commercial public use standards?)
And were they applied to him when they wouldn't have been applied to others? If they would not have been applied to other groups of 15 to 20 meeting regularly on a friend's private property, then this is religious discrimination.
a private investigator testified that he was not acquainted with the Salmans when he attended the church and saw 40 or 50 people in attendance during regular services and 20 or 30 additional worshipers for special occasions such as baptisms.
Salman and his wife have not paid taxes on the property since an inspector from the Maricopa County Assessors Office approved Salmans request to have the property classified as a church in 2008.
When the inspector visited the home, a sign outside the property included the name of the church, according to court documents, and the inspector found a podium, folding chairs and other items that allowed him to grant the property tax-exempt status.
Phoenix preacher jailed in zoning dispute - News from The Arizona Republic
Boom!His garage was basically set up as a church, and he broke zoning laws. This has nothing to do with his religion.
Perhaps he broke zoning laws. Perhaps he didn't. They SAID he did, but were the laws appropriately applied? (Why does a private, noncommercial group meeting on private property need to qualify under commercial public use standards?)
And were they applied to him when they wouldn't have been applied to others? If they would not have been applied to other groups of 15 to 20 meeting regularly on a friend's private property, then this is religious discrimination.
If it's not a church, why did he apply for and receive tax exempt status as a church?
And his claims about being small and private are in dispute:
a private investigator testified that he was not acquainted with the Salmans when he attended the church and saw 40 or 50 people in attendance during regular services and 20 or 30 additional worshipers for special occasions such as baptisms.
Salman and his wife have not paid taxes on the property since an inspector from the Maricopa County Assessors Office approved Salmans request to have the property classified as a church in 2008.
When the inspector visited the home, a sign outside the property included the name of the church, according to court documents, and the inspector found a podium, folding chairs and other items that allowed him to grant the property tax-exempt status.
Phoenix preacher jailed in zoning dispute - News from The Arizona Republic
So, tax exempt status, sign naming the church, a seperate building with podium and folding chairs, 40-50 people including an inspector who didn't know anyone else....
How again is this equivalent to a knitting circle?
A Bible study group is not a church.
His garage was basically set up as a church, and he broke zoning laws. This has nothing to do with his religion.
Perhaps he broke zoning laws. Perhaps he didn't. They SAID he did, but were the laws appropriately applied? (Why does a private, noncommercial group meeting on private property need to qualify under commercial public use standards?)
And were they applied to him when they wouldn't have been applied to others? If they would not have been applied to other groups of 15 to 20 meeting regularly on a friend's private property, then this is religious discrimination.
His garage was basically set up as a church, and he broke zoning laws. This has nothing to do with his religion.
Perhaps he broke zoning laws. Perhaps he didn't. They SAID he did, but were the laws appropriately applied? (Why does a private, noncommercial group meeting on private property need to qualify under commercial public use standards?)
And were they applied to him when they wouldn't have been applied to others? If they would not have been applied to other groups of 15 to 20 meeting regularly on a friend's private property, then this is religious discrimination.
If it's not a church, why did he apply for and receive tax exempt status as a church?
And his claims about being small and private are in dispute:
a private investigator testified that he was not acquainted with the Salmans when he attended the church and saw 40 or 50 people in attendance during regular services and 20 or 30 additional worshipers for special occasions such as baptisms.
Salman and his wife have not paid taxes on the property since an inspector from the Maricopa County Assessor’s Office approved Salman’s request to have the property classified as a church in 2008.
When the inspector visited the home, a sign outside the property included the name of the church, according to court documents, and the inspector found a podium, folding chairs and other items that allowed him to grant the property tax-exempt status.
Phoenix preacher jailed in zoning dispute - News from The Arizona Republic
So, tax exempt status, sign naming the church, a seperate building with podium and folding chairs, 40-50 people including an inspector who didn't know anyone else....
How again is this equivalent to a knitting circle?
After two years of relative calm, the feud between the City of Phoenix and the Salmans escalated when they erected a 2,000 square foot building in their backyard. Mr Salman said he applied for and was granted all the appropriate permits and the building has passed a city inspection.
At that point we took our Bible study from our living room and we moved it into that building, he said. We started worshiping in that building every weekend.
However, Miss Hill, the chief assistant city prosecutor, said Salman has mischaracterized the facts of the permit. She said that he was given a permit to convert a garage into a game room, not a church or anything else for that matter.
Father of six faces 60 days behind bars for hosting Bible study in his OWN home against city rules | Mail Online
Maybe he doesn't know that lying is a sin.
Cassy Treat built his Mega Church on Business zoned property. There was nothing the City of Federal Way could do to stop him. So how is it that this man can't have his church? Is it the amount of money involved? Just curious. We lost all those tax dollars, seems to me the tax dollars for a residence would be insignificant in comparison.
After two years of relative calm, the feud between the City of Phoenix and the Salmans escalated when they erected a 2,000 square foot building in their backyard. Mr Salman said he applied for and was granted all the appropriate permits and the building has passed a city inspection.
At that point we took our Bible study from our living room and we moved it into that building, he said. We started worshiping in that building every weekend.
However, Miss Hill, the chief assistant city prosecutor, said Salman has mischaracterized the facts of the permit. She said that he was given a permit to convert a garage into a game room, not a church or anything else for that matter.
Father of six faces 60 days behind bars for hosting Bible study in his OWN home against city rules | Mail Online
Maybe he doesn't know that lying is a sin.
it's more fun for them to try to make this a religious issue.
he's being treated like anyone else holding gatherings.
but i guess that doesn't suit some people.
After two years of relative calm, the feud between the City of Phoenix and the Salmans escalated when they erected a 2,000 square foot building in their backyard. Mr Salman said he applied for and was granted all the appropriate permits and the building has passed a city inspection.
At that point we took our Bible study from our living room and we moved it into that building, he said. We started worshiping in that building every weekend.
However, Miss Hill, the chief assistant city prosecutor, said Salman has mischaracterized the facts of the permit. She said that he was given a permit to convert a garage into a game room, not a church or anything else for that matter.
Father of six faces 60 days behind bars for hosting Bible study in his OWN home against city rules | Mail Online
Maybe he doesn't know that lying is a sin.
it's more fun for them to try to make this a religious issue.
he's being treated like anyone else holding gatherings.
but i guess that doesn't suit some people.
Let's face it, some of these zoning laws are stupid and some of the people complaining about this man violating them would be the first to violate them if they wanted something and could figure a way around the law to get it.