Partial birth abortions banned

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    WASHINGTON - The Senate on Tuesday voted to ban the practice that critics call partial birth abortion, sending President Bush (news - web sites) a measure that supporters and foes alike said could alter the future of U.S. abortion rights. A court challenge is certain.

    Years in the making, the bill imposes the most far-reaching limits on abortion since the Supreme Court in 1973 confirmed a woman's right to end a pregnancy.

    "This is an enormous day. It's been a long seven-year fight about the issue of partial birth abortion," said Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan. He was a leader of the drive to end abortions, generally carried out in the second or third trimester, in which a fetus is partially delivered before being killed.
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../ap/20031021/ap_on_go_co/congress_abortion_14
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    Although I am pro-choice, I am all for this ban.

    Thoughts?

    I know this is a touchy subject, so lets keep this one civil please!
     
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    Good.
     
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    After what SEA HAG did, I say it's about freagon time!
     
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    It's good that this version has allowances if the mother's life is deemed to be in danger, not so good that there are no provisions for cases where the mother's health may be endangered. And yes there is debate on whether either of those two situations exist, or at least the latter, hard to follow sometimes.
     
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    There is a provision for the endangerment of the mother's health. It's in the bill.
     
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    Actually looks like just 'life' is protected:

    `(a) Any physician who, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly performs a partial-birth abortion and thereby kills a human fetus shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. This subsection does not apply to a partial-birth abortion that is necessary to save the life of a mother whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself. This subsection takes effect 1 day after the enactment.

    the whole bill can be read at:

    http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm

    put birth in the search and follow the link for

    "5 . Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[S.3.ENR]"

    I'd link directly but they expire.
     
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    I am SOOO NOT pro-choice!! Too many women use abortion as a means of birth control. Too many people out there trying to save baby seals..and F* the human babies!! It was a sad sad day in America when that law was passed. :(
     
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    That is murder!!

    Explain to me how we CANT have abortion illegal!! If I go kill an expecting mother...I get charged with 2 murder charges. Isnt that giving the baby a legal status??? If so..how can abortion NOT be illegal?
     
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    Ya know, that makes a lot of sense, and I'm pro-choice!

    I think they should investigate each and every case. There are a few cases where I don't have a huge problem with it:
    1- Mothers life in danger
    2- Rape
    3- Baby won't survive, or major defect

    But to use it as a means of birth control is disgusting.

    I think a babies life is worth the extra time and cost incurred to evaluate each case independently.
     
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    I too agree than in very specialized circumstances it should be allowable.

    Pro-choice or not every women has a choice:

    If you don't want to be pregnant, take precautions or keep your legs closed.
     

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