Palin Flunks Foreign Policy in her Interview

[dilloduck]

It's not a matter of how badly the dems are doing. It is that they recognize how similar PALIN is th BUSH.

McCain was enough of a centrist that he would have governed reasonably well. (I never bought the idea that he was another Bush, although his voting record is 95% in line with Bush.)

Palin OTOH has Bush's far-right polarizing set of beliefs, roughly his (lack of) awareness circa 2000 of what goes on in the world, his general disregard for science, his willingness to fall back on "it's God's will" when discussing issues of national and international importance - The list goes on and on and on. She even probably clears brush to relax. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the similarities between Palin and Bush are remarkable.

The democrats see Palin as another Bush. They aren't scared, they are trying to get the republicans to see it, before we get four more years of Bush mentality and Bush voting patterns, Bush economics, bush failed foreign policy blunders, bush disregard for science and technology, bush ignoring the peace process in Israel, bush bluster and swagger "you don't even blink" type nonsense, the list is endless.

A vote for Palin is a vote for more Bush.

Palin is like Bush because she is a Christian?

 

[Caligirl]

I'd rather have Palin picking up that phone at 3am than someone that thinks he visited 57 states and still has 1 to go....and that 1 being Alaska and Hawaii....

Give me Palin anythime.....

So you are saying she is the lesser of two evils?

 

[Caligirl]

Palin is like Bush because she is a Christian?

All four people on the tickets are Christian.

Obama, Biden, and McCain are dissimilar from Palin in some fundamental ways.

These men are all pro-science (unlike Bush). They realize it is important to blink (and maybe even think) when making decisions that can have serious ramifications for this country (unlike Bush). They are all well-travelled, they are all versed in foreign cultures and policy (some moreso than others, but all much more so than Palin, and unlike Bush in 2000.)

When Bush was elected he had been to all of mexico and China. That's it, AFAIK. He couldn't even pronounce some of the names of countries and leaders at the debates, he flubbed and floundered his way through.

People wanted to vote for him - BECAUSE they said they'd like to have a beer with him. People want to vote for Sara, because she is "just like them."

If you like where bush has gotten us, by all means vote for the woman who has so much in common with him.

 

[HoleInTheVoid]

Originally Posted by rayboyusmc
Why is it that the right is wetting their pants when anyone questions Palin's credentials.

She is running for VP not the frigging dog catcher. We have every right to know what she believes and knows about politics and in her case religion. She is one heart beat away from the presidency.

If she were the Democratic candidate with this thin a resume, the righties would be screaming murder

Double standards..

Absolutely.

Paging Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud. White courtesy phone please.

What an astounding admission because--as we all know--the right HAS been screaming bloody murder and rayboy admits as much by calling it a double-standard.

But the truth is our #2 has a thicker resume than their #1 who is seeking to be closer than a mere heartbeat (code-speak for: McCain's old and gonna die leaving her in charge!).

Ah-h-h...good times.

 

[AllieBaba]

No kidding.

 

[DiveCon]

Paging Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud. White courtesy phone please.

What an astounding admission because--as we all know--the right HAS been screaming bloody murder and rayboy admits as much by calling it a double-standard.

But the truth is our #2 has a thicker resume than their #1 who is seeking to be closer than a mere heartbeat (code-speak for: McCain's old and gonna die leaving her in charge!).

Ah-h-h...good times.

amazing how they call US doing the double standard while they are actually doing it
LOL

 

[AllieBaba]

It's the old standard. Accuse somebody else of what you're doing before you get caught. That way when you get caught, you can say "they did it first".

 

[jreeves]

She didn't have a fucking clue what the Bush doctrine is. Wow.

And that is bad thing how? I thought it was all of you liberals bitching and moaning the last 8 years about the Bush Doctorine? If she doesn't know the Bush Doctorine then how can she follow it? Lmao

 

[Caligirl]

Paging Dr. Freud. Paging Dr. Freud. White courtesy phone please.

What an astounding admission because--as we all know--the right HAS been screaming bloody murder and rayboy admits as much by calling it a double-standard.

But the truth is our #2 has a thicker resume than their #1 who is seeking to be closer than a mere heartbeat (code-speak for: McCain's old and gonna die leaving her in charge!).

Ah-h-h...good times.

You're right - I thought to trim that quote to the part I agreed with but went for quick over proper, I'm sorry.

The part I was saying 'absolutely' to was just this:

She is running for VP not the frigging dog catcher. We have every right to know what she believes and knows about politics and in her case religion. She is one heart beat away from the presidency.

The same standard should apply to every candidate (P/VP) in the election. Palin should not get special treatment, and neither should Obama, Biden, or McCain.

 

[del]

Interesting you bring up PBS.. probably came to mind cause he had to speak soft and slow so that she would actually understand the question.. granted it didnt always work as the bush doctrine question highlighted.

I'll bite though... which questions were unfair and leftist...

Also, what do you know of chomsky and why do you think Obama is in league with the enemy...

better yet.. dont answer.. I'd get better answers out of Palin. You just crawl back into your little spider hole and hope that she has no more plans for interviews...

in order, the one that he asked her to comment on her previous statements and then misquoted her twice in one question.

chomsky is and has been insane since at least 1960. apparently the black helicopters under his bed sent him round the bend.

let me ask, of what state are you Governor, ace?
give my best to the other arachnids.

 

[Red Dawn]

And that is bad thing how? I thought it was all of you liberals bitching and moaning the last 8 years about the Bush Doctorine? If she doesn't know the Bush Doctorine then how can she follow it? Lmao

Perfect.

Note to intelligent and informed posters:

Let me clue you in on something. Cons don't care about competence and intelligence. They care about rhetoric. If the GOP can take a chimpanzee, or in this case a small town mayor from Alaska, and train them to effectively deliver about ten rightwing talking points from a prepared script, along with a few zingers about "liberals", that's all cons care about. That's all they need, to feel cool about voting for someone.

This is the crowd that voted for George Dumbya Bush twice. This is the crowd that spent most of September 2005, defending "Heck of a Job" Brownie. If their tool of a candidate can be trained to use the standard rightwing code phrases effectively, that's all that matters. The interests of the country don't matter, competence doesn't matter, good governance doesn't matter.

 

[dilloduck]

Perfect.

Note to intelligent and informed posters:

Let me clue you in on something. Cons don't care about competence and intelligence. They care about rhetoric. If the GOP can take a chimpanzee, or in this case a small town mayor from Alaska, and train them to effectively deliver about ten rightwing talking points from a prepared script, along with a few zingers about "liberals", that's all cons care about. That's all they need, to feel cool about voting for someone.

This is the crowd that voted for George Dumbya Bush twice. This is the crowd that spent most of September 2005, defending "Heck of a Job" Brownie. If their tool of a candidate can be trained to use the standard rightwing code phrases effectively, that's all that matters. The interests of the country don't matter, competence doesn't matter, good governance doesn't matter.

I don't think even conservatives are crazy about McCain---they would just prefer to keep Obamas commie buddies out of DC.

 

[AllieBaba]

Perfect.

Note to intelligent and informed posters:

Let me clue you in on something. Cons don't care about competence and intelligence. They care about rhetoric. If the GOP can take a chimpanzee, or in this case a small town mayor from Alaska, and train them to effectively deliver about ten rightwing talking points from a prepared script, along with a few zingers about "liberals", that's all cons care about. That's all they need, to feel cool about voting for someone.

This is the crowd that voted for George Dumbya Bush twice. This is the crowd that spent most of September 2005, defending "Heck of a Job" Brownie. If their tool of a candidate can be trained to use the standard rightwing code phrases effectively, that's all that matters. The interests of the country don't matter, competence doesn't matter, good governance doesn't matter.

Aw, that's just sour grapes because your own rhetoric doesn't work, and you can't figure out WHY, if the American public is as stupid as you think it is, they don't fall for your idiocy.

Newsflash. Your own rhetoric doesn't work, and we'll keep blasting right through it until you give up. You guys are doomed. You are a tiny fraction of the US, and insist on acting as though you are the only ones who matter. Get over it and start looking around. The majority of US citizens aren't like you. They're truthful, they're hard working, they appreciate what they have, and they are willing to fight to keep it, and appreciate the efforts of those who have fought to provide it.

They don't like you, they're every bit as smart as you, and your condescending grade-school tactics don't work. They haven't ever worked. Look at your record in the White House.

 

[DiveCon]

Perfect.

Note to intelligent and informed posters:

Let me clue you in on something. Cons don't care about competence and intelligence. They care about rhetoric. If the GOP can take a chimpanzee, or in this case a small town mayor from Alaska, and train them to effectively deliver about ten rightwing talking points from a prepared script, along with a few zingers about "liberals", that's all cons care about. That's all they need, to feel cool about voting for someone.

This is the crowd that voted for George Dumbya Bush twice. This is the crowd that spent most of September 2005, defending "Heck of a Job" Brownie. If their tool of a candidate can be trained to use the standard rightwing code phrases effectively, that's all that matters. The interests of the country don't matter, competence doesn't matter, good governance doesn't matter.

this shows you how little you actually know
but do keep showing it

 

[Isolde]

And that is bad thing how? I thought it was all of you liberals bitching and moaning the last 8 years about the Bush Doctorine? If she doesn't know the Bush Doctorine then how can she follow it? Lmao

It's the same logic they use to claim Bush is teh stupid and yet in all his stupidity he seemed to know what no body else knew (that Iraq did NOT have WMDs) and therefore lied to us about their existence.

Being liberal means you never have to defend your positions, just say the most outrageous things and walk away.

 

[Modbert]

It's the same logic they use to claim Bush is teh stupid and yet in all his stupidity he seemed to know what no body else knew (that Iraq did NOT have WMDs) and therefore lied to us about their existence.

Being liberal means you never have to defend your positions, just say the most outrageous things and walk away.

Everybody else but the United States knew for the most part that Saddam did not have WMDs on the scale that was written.

Saddam didn't think there would be an American President stupid enough to actually play his game of chicken (as in who would back off first) and actually invade Iraq.

Though if we're hanging Saddam for all these crimes against his people, why are we only playing world police in Iraq I ask the Republicans on here?

What about the people in North Korea, Cuba, China, several African nations, and even Russia?

Why are we letting them get away with the abuse of human rights on their own people but playing World Police in Iraq?

 

[Alpha1]

Everybody else but the United States knew for the most part that Saddam did not have WMDs on the scale that was written.
Educate yourself sonny....

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." Ex-President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." Ex-President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." Senator John Edwards (D-NC), October 10, 2002

"While the distance between the United States and Iraq is great, Saddam Hussein's ability to use his chemical and biological weapons against us is not constrained by geography - it can be accomplished in a number of different ways - which is what makes this threat so real and persuasive." Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), October 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"The essential facts are known. We know of the weapons in Saddam's possession: chemical, biological, and nuclear in time. We know of his unequaled willingness to use them. We know his history. His invasions of his neighbors. His dreams of achieving hegemonic control over the Arab world. His record of anti-American rage. His willingness to terrorize, to slaughter, to suppress his own people and others. We need not stretch to imagine nightmare scenarios in which Saddam makes common cause with the terrorists who want to kill us Americans and destroy our way of life." Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), September 13, 2002

"Make no mistake: Saddam Hussein is a ruthless tyrant, and he must give up his weapons of mass destruction. We support the President in the course he has followed so far: working with Congress, working with the United Nations, insisting on strong and unfettered inspections. We must convince the world that Saddam Hussein is not America's problem alone; he is the world's problem. And we urge President Bush to stay this course for we are far stronger when we stand with other nations than when we stand alone." Governor Gary Locke (D-WA), January 28, 2003 Democratic Response to President Bush's "State of the Union" address


Madeline Albright
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI)
Al Gore
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA)
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV)
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV)
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA)
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY)
Senator John Edwards (D-NC)
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL)
President Clinton
Sandy Berger
others....



Saddam didn't think there would be an American President stupid enough to actually play his game of chicken (as in who would back off first) and actually invade Iraq.

Though if we're hanging Saddam for all these crimes against his people, why are we only playing world police in Iraq I ask the Republicans on here?

What about the people in North Korea, Cuba, China, several African nations, and even Russia?

Why are we letting them get away with the abuse of human rights on their own people but playing World Police in Iraq?

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[DiveCon]

Everybody else but the United States knew for the most part that Saddam did not have WMDs on the scale that was written.

Saddam didn't think there would be an American President stupid enough to actually play his game of chicken (as in who would back off first) and actually invade Iraq.

Though if we're hanging Saddam for all these crimes against his people, why are we only playing world police in Iraq I ask the Republicans on here?

What about the people in North Korea, Cuba, China, several African nations, and even Russia?

Why are we letting them get away with the abuse of human rights on their own people but playing World Police in Iraq?

really, what country said he didnt have them?
not France(yet they opposed the op) not Germany(yet they opposed the Op) not Russia(yet they opposed the op)
hmm, so who was it that was screaming "he doesnt have them"
only one i know of was the liar Saddam
btw, while we didnt find the stockpiles we expected, we did find some that Saddam wasnt supposed to have

 

[Modbert]

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That's nice you posted a bunch of Democrat only quotes but you forgot something. Democrats are part of the United States too.

 

[BrianH]

Amen--Palin probably takes a gander at all the rumors flying around prior to speaking and shoots them down like fish in a barrel--it's just too easy.

Palin for President??? The "other" space is looking mighty tempting.