Palestine NEVER EXISTED!

[louie888]

 

[Hollie]

That is the same phony cut and paste cartoon you have cut and pasted multiple times across multiple threads.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not very scholarly or bright.

Postcards from the 20's. The Agricultural School for Girls is a trophy mark of civilization for the 1920's in Tel Aviv.

From Stanford Univ Collections. I used to be there a lot..

LOL. Does not change the fact that:

Same two women over 40 years.

 

[louie888]

Wow! How touching! Reminds me of...

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Muslim and Christian Palestinians are the descendants of the indigenous people of the area. That their ancestors converted to Christianity in 380 AD (in order to legally reside in Palestine) does not change who their ancestors were. Many of whom practiced Judaism before they converted to Christianity, and subsequently Islam.

380 CE is the year Christianity was officially adopted in Rome.

Life may have been made difficult for many Jews, but be they in the Land of Israel, or anywhere else in the Roman, now Christian Empire,
many ethnic Jews and pagans simply went underground and continued to follow their religion until a new moderate government appeared and allowed them to continue doing so without hiding it.

That is why the Muslims in the 7th Century encountered the ethnic Jews still living there and also allowed them to re- enter Jerusalem.
They were not forced to convert to Islam.
All of that is in Muslim writings.

It is no different from when the ethnic Jews in Europe were forced to convert to Christianity during the Inquisition and many continued to follow the Jewish religion in their homes.

The Jews expelled from England and all other European countries later on were ethnic Jews. Very few would have converted.

Judaism does not proselytize. They mainly stayed to themselves in order to survive.

Modern Palestinians are Arabs. They are descendant from the Arabs who invaded the land of Israel, or moved afterwards in the past 1400 years.

Their nationality as Palestinians was only adopted in 1964 after Arafat
went to Moscow and spoke to the KGB. Both, eventually, created that nationality for the Arabs, out of the Mandate for Palestine, in order to counter the ethnic Jew's claim to the land.

When the Ottoman Empire fell, most Arabs who lived there (no matter how long, and where they came from only recently) considered themselves part of Greater Syria and wanted to have the Mandate for Palestine be part of Syria.

TransJordan was given to the Hashemite Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula. (The British changed the Mandate to give that part away, and they only called it Palestine to spite the Jewish people, just as the Romans had done. It should have been called the Mandate for Israel)
Just look at the history of England towards Jews to find out why it happened. First country to expel the Jews in Europe, in 1290.

What was left was to eventually have a majority Jewish population, and minority non Jews.

The Muslims extremists, being the leaders, could not agree with the idea. One of their sayings is that once Muslims conquer a land, it is always Muslim land. They still long for all the land they conquered in Europe.

That is mainly what is at the bottom of the Arab rejection for partition
in 1937, 1947, 2000, 2008.

Palestine as a Nation, or as a People have never existed before the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Mandate for Palestine.

 

[teddyearp]

What is awkward? The jews started migrating back to Israel around the 1890's. Do the math, 1940-1890=50 years. Thanks for disproving your own point, lol!

 

[Hossfly]

Where was the airport located in Palestine?

 

[Sixties Fan]

What is awkward? The jews started migrating back to Israel around the 1890's. Do the math, 1940-1890=50 years. Thanks for disproving your own point, lol!

To begin with, there was always a Jewish presence in the Land of Israel. Always.
During the Byzantine Empire.
The Muslim invasion is proof of it. They met and put the Jews under their protection. Dhimmitude.
The Crusaders invasion is proof of it. They attacked and killed Jews then.
The Ottoman Empire from 1517 to 1917 is also proof of it.
There are records of foreign travelers and the Ottoman and British where they record the presence of Jews on the land.

What you are referring to is the mass immigration of Jews after Zionism was founded.

Zi·on·ism
ˈzīəˌnizəm/
noun

1. a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
   
   ------------------
   
   Re-establishing means:
   Something which was once there. The Sovereign Nation of Israel. From King David to the time of the Romans.
   The endless number of foreign invaders kept the Jews from
   achieving sovereignty before that.
   Each invader has recorded their dealings with Jews in the area.
   Including the various clans of Muslims and the Ottoman Empire.
   
   Jews did not simply "appear" out of Europe in the 1890s and "suddenly" claimed the land as theirs.
   The land was not empty of Jews. Never had been.
   
   The reason for Political Zionism?
   The court martial of Captain Dreyfus in France.
   Theodore Herzl and other Jews saw that and realized that despite the recent European Enlightenment, that Jews would remain second class citizens to be used as scapegoats any time something bad happened. They could be accused, arrested, expelled. Anything their host countries wanted to do, as it was
   done for centuries before that.
   
   The same mentality led Russia to write the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in 1903, in order to deflect what was actually happening economically in that country. They did not want the population to turn against the Czar.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Where was the airport located in Palestine?

The first airport was built during the Mandate for Palestine, which was to re-create the sovereign Nation of the Jews. Israel.

Atarot Airport - Wikipedia

Atarot Airport (Hebrew: נמל התעופה ירושלים‎‎, Arabic: مطار القدس الدولي‎‎) (IATA: JRS, ICAO: LLJR, OJJR), (also Kalandia Airport, Qalandia Airport, and Jerusalem Airport) is a small airport, currently not in use, located between Jerusalem and Ramallah. When it was opened in 1920 it was the first airport in the British Mandate for Palestine.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Jewish immigration before 1890

Jewish Immigration to Pre-State Israel

In the history of Jewish Palestine, the year 1881 inaugurated a new era. For many centuries, Jews from all over the diaspora had been “going up” to the Land of Israel, to live and die there, but the immigration of 1881 did not resemble any other. Inspired for the first time by an essentially modern national movement, this aliyah laid the foundations for the national rebirth of a Jewish society.

 

[Eloy]

What is awkward? The jews started migrating back to Israel around the 1890's. Do the math, 1940-1890=50 years. Thanks for disproving your own point, lol!

No Jews who moved to Palestine were "migrating back" since they had not been there before.

 

[Sixties Fan]

What is awkward? The jews started migrating back to Israel around the 1890's. Do the math, 1940-1890=50 years. Thanks for disproving your own point, lol!

No Jews who moved to Palestine were "migrating back" since they had not been there before.

Is that really the point?

Thousands of Arab Muslims migrated to that area since the 7th Century invasion. Had they ever been there before? Did they ever make a Nation out of it?
And thousands more of Arab Muslims migrated from all around the area of Palestine from 1880 on because of what the Ottoman Empire was doing, forcing them to migrate. And they had never lived there.

Their indigenous homeland is called Arabia. That is the area they have always called their home. Where Mecca and Medina are.
They came from Europe, Arabia, etc into what became the Mandate for Palestine from 1880 on, because the indigenous Jews who were returning were creating jobs, building infrastructure for the re-creation of their future Nation. And the Arabs were looking for jobs.
And they were employed by Jews then, just as many Arabs are now being employed by Jews in Israel and in Judea and Samaria.

 

[Challenger]

Is that really the point?

Yes it is, no matter how much the Zionists try to cover it up.

Thousands of Arab Muslims migrated to that area since the 7th Century invasion.

Prove it, historically in the 7th century Arabs from Arabia migrated to Mesopotamia as this was by far the better, richer country. Only a small elite settled in Palestine taking over the estates abandoned by the Romano-Byzantine nobility who had preferred exile to conversion. I'd be interested in seeing your migration statistics from the 7th century to the 15th century.

Their indigenous homeland is called Arabia.

See above. Most of the natives of Palestine merely adopted Arabic culture, religion and the language over the centuries following the conquest, most Arab migration took place into Mesopotamia.

Jews who were returning were creating jobs, building infrastructure for the re-creation of their future Nation.

Yes they were, jobs for Jewish Zionists only. Native Muslim or Christian Palestinians never got a look in. Much of the improvements made to the area were done by the British.

And they were employed by Jews then, just as many Arabs are now being employed by Jews in Israel and in Judea and Samaria.

...at exploitative low pay rates and conditions.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Is that really the point?

Yes it is, no matter how much the Zionists try to cover it up.

Thousands of Arab Muslims migrated to that area since the 7th Century invasion.

Prove it, historically in the 7th century Arabs from Arabia migrated to Mesopotamia as this was by far the better, richer country. Only a small elite settled in Palestine taking over the estates abandoned by the Romano-Byzantine nobility who had preferred exile to conversion. I'd be interested in seeing your migration statistics from the 7th century to the 15th century.

Their indigenous homeland is called Arabia.

See above. Most of the natives of Palestine merely adopted Arabic culture, religion and the language over the centuries following the conquest, most Arab migration took place into Mesopotamia.

Jews who were returning were creating jobs, building infrastructure for the re-creation of their future Nation.

Yes they were, jobs for Jewish Zionists only. Native Muslim or Christian Palestinians never got a look in. Much of the improvements made to the area were done by the British.

And they were employed by Jews then, just as many Arabs are now being employed by Jews in Israel and in Judea and Samaria.

...at exploitative low pay rates and conditions.

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.)

 

[Challenger]

Is that really the point?

Yes it is, no matter how much the Zionists try to cover it up.

Thousands of Arab Muslims migrated to that area since the 7th Century invasion.

Prove it, historically in the 7th century Arabs from Arabia migrated to Mesopotamia as this was by far the better, richer country. Only a small elite settled in Palestine taking over the estates abandoned by the Romano-Byzantine nobility who had preferred exile to conversion. I'd be interested in seeing your migration statistics from the 7th century to the 15th century.

Their indigenous homeland is called Arabia.

See above. Most of the natives of Palestine merely adopted Arabic culture, religion and the language over the centuries following the conquest, most Arab migration took place into Mesopotamia.

Jews who were returning were creating jobs, building infrastructure for the re-creation of their future Nation.

Yes they were, jobs for Jewish Zionists only. Native Muslim or Christian Palestinians never got a look in. Much of the improvements made to the area were done by the British.

And they were employed by Jews then, just as many Arabs are now being employed by Jews in Israel and in Judea and Samaria.

...at exploitative low pay rates and conditions.

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.)

A list of military campaigns and raids is not a statistical analysis of migration patterns, if that's what you are trying to demonstrate with is link.

Oh, thanks for the link to the Latin Library anyway; getting all those original Latin texts all in one place is very useful for my researchs.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Is that really the point?

Yes it is, no matter how much the Zionists try to cover it up.

Thousands of Arab Muslims migrated to that area since the 7th Century invasion.

Prove it, historically in the 7th century Arabs from Arabia migrated to Mesopotamia as this was by far the better, richer country. Only a small elite settled in Palestine taking over the estates abandoned by the Romano-Byzantine nobility who had preferred exile to conversion. I'd be interested in seeing your migration statistics from the 7th century to the 15th century.

Their indigenous homeland is called Arabia.

See above. Most of the natives of Palestine merely adopted Arabic culture, religion and the language over the centuries following the conquest, most Arab migration took place into Mesopotamia.

Jews who were returning were creating jobs, building infrastructure for the re-creation of their future Nation.

Yes they were, jobs for Jewish Zionists only. Native Muslim or Christian Palestinians never got a look in. Much of the improvements made to the area were done by the British.

And they were employed by Jews then, just as many Arabs are now being employed by Jews in Israel and in Judea and Samaria.

...at exploitative low pay rates and conditions.

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.)

A list of military campaigns and raids is not a statistical analysis of migration patterns, if that's what you are trying to demonstrate with is link.

Oh, thanks for the link to the Latin Library anyway; getting all those original Latin texts all in one place is very useful for my researchs.

The fact is that military campaigns do move in new populations. The assertion that Palestinians are "indigenous" and descendants of the ancient Canaanites (who were wiped out) is BS.

Many Palestinians have lost their jobs because of BDS. On the other hand, The Israeli economy is growing. Useless boycott.

My mom's family were denied entry into the U.S. after WW2. If not for Israel, the only Jewish country which is a dot on the world map, where else could they have gone to?

 

[teddyearp]

I think most will find the Holohoax the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind.

I think this post would belong in the conspiracy theory section . . . .

 

[teddyearp]

Aren't you the knucklehead who cut and pasted an alleged "Pal'istan" passport? Yeah. A quick search of the web exposed that fraud as it was a British issued document.

issued to.. drum roll here .. a Palestinian

It is a well known historical fact that there is a dividing line historically. After around 1920 and until 1948, the British were in control of and called the area Palestine and all of its inhabitants were issued passports that said "Palestine", as well as the coinage. 'Palestinians' at that time also included all of the Jews.

 

[teddyearp]

"Zionism is a TRANSFER of the Jews. Regarding the TRANSFER of the [Palestinian] Arabs this is much easier than any other TRANSFER. There are Arab states in the vicinity . . . . and it is clear that if the [Palestinian] Arabs are removed [to these states] this will improve their condition and not the contrary."
--David Ben-Gurion 1944
Expulsion of the Palestinians: The Concept of "Transfer" in Zionist Political Thought, 1882-1948: Nur Masalha: 9780887282355: Amazon.com: Books

 

[teddyearp]

The Muslim and Christian Palestinians are the descendants of the indigenous people of the area. That their ancestors converted to Christianity in 380 AD (in order to legally reside in Palestine) does not change who their ancestors were. Many of whom practiced Judaism before they converted to Christianity, and subsequently Islam.

Why do you continue to ignore the fact that there were many Jews who never converted?