Our Solar/Alt Energy Future

[elektra]

There is no solar future. There is no solar today. Simply a huge waste of money making Wall Street rich.

 

[Captain Caveman]

No one claimed solar was the best choice for every area of the world. You would have better results with wind and hydroelectric. Also biofuel and small nuclear.

Yes, wind turbines are situated in strategic areas where it's windy, and obviously hydro where there's water. I am not aware of anyone having those at home. All three, solar wind hydro, are not really individual home viable over here.

 

[Synthaholic]

If you take a look at biden and the total disaster at the southern border you will know one reason why

 

[Synthaholic]

No, that was the sentence I rewrote, in italics, to show the difference between using the word subsidy in a sentence. Without, "tax cut". Why did you remove my italics and take it out of context?

You have been wrong, lying, trying to deceive, and it has all been caught by me and others.

Tax cuts and subsidies are not the same thing, hence each are nouns.

Targeted tax cuts for one industry are subsidies, dope.

 

[Synthaholic]

Here is your quote, does it or does it not state "tax cuts". It does state tax cuts, so how do you reply as if it does not? Are you the dumbass drunk?

These are examples, not definitions.

Keep digging.

 

[Synthaholic]

Yes, wind turbines are situated in strategic areas where it's windy, and obviously hydro where there's water. I am not aware of anyone having those at home. All three, solar wind hydro, are not really individual home viable over here.

Who's talking about individual homes? The U.K. can use wind and hydro and whatever solar will work there to generate the electricity to send to individual homes.

Why are you being obtuse?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Who's talking about individual homes? The U.K. can use wind and hydro and whatever solar will work there to generate the electricity to send to individual homes.

Why are you being obtuse?

I would prefer to be off grid, producing my own power, in control of my own costs. The grid is so expensive and suffers power cuts in storms. The only way I can see this happening is having a plot with a stream with sufficient head height to run a small water turbine.

The problem with electric, it's not stored, whatever is producing it has to crank up and wind down quickly on demand. With wind turbines, they either spin or don't. If you invest millions into wind farms, you want paid to produce, but when demand is not there, they don't turn. So the grid pays the investors £millions when not producing. Hence why this "free" electric costs a fortune.

Nuclear fusion is the answer, and when it's online in 50 or 60 years plus, all the solar panels and wind turbines won't get renewed, and thus fade out.

 

[Synthaholic]

I would prefer to be off grid, producing my own power, in control of my own costs.

Ok, but that's not what this thread is about.

With wind turbines, they either spin or don't.

They spin. You think there aren't places in the U.K. where the wind blows constantly?

 

[elektra]

Targeted tax cuts for one industry are subsidies, dope.

Not according to your link.

I get it though, you believe in a Marxist economy where any money I have is only mine if the government allows me to keep it. That is what you call a subsidy

 

[Captain Caveman]

Ok, but that's not what this thread is about.


They spin. You think there aren't places in the U.K. where the wind blows constantly?

When they don't spin, it's because electric demand is not there.

 

[elektra]

When they don't spin, it's because electric demand is not there.

when they dont spin, they are broke, or it is night time when there is typically no wind, or it is simply a calm day

 

[elektra]

Ok, but that's not what this thread is about.
They spin. You think there aren't places in the U.K. where the wind blows constantly?

Of course there are places where the wind does not blow constantly. The UK had months where the wind did not blow constantly which led to power outages. It was the subject of OP's here on USMB

 

[Captain Caveman]

when they dont spin, they are broke, or it is night time when there is typically no wind, or it is simply a calm day

Yes, that's two reasons of many -

Why Do Wind Turbines Stop? Reasons Explained - Energy Follower

Wind turbines are complex structures, designed to produce maximum renewable energy only when it is safe to do so. Let's explore why a wind turbine stops moving.

energyfollower.com

Read constraint payment

 

[Synthaholic]

When they don't spin, it's because electric demand is not there.

The wind spins the windmill.

 

[Synthaholic]

Of course there are places where the wind does not blow constantly. The UK had months where the wind did not blow constantly which led to power outages. It was the subject of OP's here on USMB

Where are the windiest parts of the UK?

The windest places in the UK have been recorded at the top of mountains, usually in the west of the country.

www.metoffice.gov.uk

 

[Grumblenuts]

Nuclear fusion is the answer

Yep. Got it. The Sun.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Read constraint payment

In Scotland, UK, during the story winter months in 2020 there was so much wind power being generated

Wait.. I thought.. Never mind.

 

[Grumblenuts]

There is no solar today.

Wait.. Hammertime!

 

[elektra]

Wait.. Hammertime!

No solar today throughout New England, zero

 

[elektra]

Where are the windiest parts of the UK?

The windest places in the UK have been recorded at the top of mountains, usually in the west of the country.

www.metoffice.gov.uk

The UK suffered two periods of no wind for weeks, the last few years.

Prices of electricity hence sky rocketed as did natural gas.

The UK has five giant cables connecting the UK to Europe so that it can have electricity.

Wind has failed the people of the UK