Some of them owned slaves.A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Yeah. So?
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Some of them owned slaves.A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Some of them owned slaves.A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Yeah. So?
A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Wow. You are the first person to EVER -- in the history of our land -- notice that sad and ironic state of affairs.
Newsflash: it was a different day and age. The Founders and Framers were pretty much on the THE cutting edge. But, even so, they were still just human beings. They made mistakes. They engaged in hypocrisy.
The fact that many of them were flawed (not all of them did own slaves, by the way) doesn't change one iota the value of what they said, did, accomplished and stood for.
Were their arguments unsound? Invalid?So they were hypocrites of the highest order.Some of them owned slaves.A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Yeah. So?
Were their arguments unsound? Invalid?So they were hypocrites of the highest order.Some of them owned slaves.
Yeah. So?
Were they wrong?
You didn't answer the question(s).Arguments?Were their arguments unsound? Invalid?So they were hypocrites of the highest order.
Were they wrong?
It's not what one says but what one does.
You didn't answer the question(s).Arguments?Were their arguments unsound? Invalid?
Were they wrong?
It's not what one says but what one does.
You -stll- have not answered the questions.For instance?You didn't answer the question(s).Arguments?
It's not what one says but what one does.
That a slave is less than a person, that women don't share equal rights, as prescribed by our original Laws.
You -stll- have not answered the questions.For instance?You didn't answer the question(s).
That a slave is less than a person, that women don't share equal rights, as prescribed by our original Laws.
Jefferson:
-[A]ll men are created equal
-That [all men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
-That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
-That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government
Was he wrong? How?
What you fail to recognize here is that, no matter what Hitler may have done, if he were to have said "genocide is wrong", he would be correct.
Or... the charge of "hypocrite" does nothing to diminish the soundness of someone's argument.
As I said:Sounds nice, but Jefferson or whomever touched the pen to the paper in writing and passing said laws, also was wrong in the way I depicted. Whomever says "All men are created Equal" and then legislates that all men are NOT equal is contradicting oneself and is in part *the part where they wrote it into law,* wholly wrong.
A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Wow. You are the first person to EVER -- in the history of our land -- notice that sad and ironic state of affairs.
Newsflash: it was a different day and age. The Founders and Framers were pretty much on the THE cutting edge. But, even so, they were still just human beings. They made mistakes. They engaged in hypocrisy.
The fact that many of them were flawed (not all of them did own slaves, by the way) doesn't change one iota the value of what they said, did, accomplished and stood for.
It is sad
and ironic
The Founders were radicals of their time.
Conservatives they were not.
A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Some of them owned slaves.A group of men who risked their lives for the principles of freedom and liberty....yet owned slaves.
Yeah. So?
So they were hypocrites of the highest order.
there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
I agree! that's why I believe the terms have been reversed by the media! Democrats are old-fashioned (ponytails, high taxes that go back 3000 years, still think socialism is cool) while the GOP and Tea Party really are the progressives ( a new thought - freedom!, low taxes, know the future cannot survive socialism.)
Yes, our founding fathers were the same way: breaking the bonds of high taxes and government tyranny and religious suppression! Our founding fathers were true progressives - just like the tea party.
Liberals will go crazy at the notion after decades of building false pop-culture perceptions but tough shit. facts are facts.
there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
I agree! that's why I believe the terms have been reversed by the media! Democrats are old-fashioned (ponytails, high taxes that go back 3000 years, still think socialism is cool) while the GOP and Tea Party really are the progressives ( a new thought - freedom!, low taxes, know the future cannot survive socialism.)
Yes, our founding fathers were the same way: breaking the bonds of high taxes and government tyranny and religious suppression! Our founding fathers were true progressives - just like the tea party.
Liberals will go crazy at the notion after decades of building false pop-culture perceptions but tough shit. facts are facts.
As I said before. If you had to pick a political Group from today, that the founders were most like. I would say it is the Libertarians. Who are over course closer to conservatives than Modern Day Liberals.
The Most Basic Theme the founders put forth was. Limit government and keep them out of our Private lives. Yep sounds Libertarian to me.