One Term Donnie

[jc456]

What I fail to see is how you aren’t capable of seeing that the Iranians are empowered to fight for their freedom from their oppressive regime for the first time in decades. This is what they’ve been waiting for. It’s been well known that those people have been ripe for revolution and that all it would’ve taken was a little assistance on our part to provide them with the security they would need to be able to pull it off, but we never did anything. All we ever did was use that horrible regime as a fear ploy to scare our own citizens into accepting more war. We’re clearly seeing that we don’t need to go to war with Iran, but that instead their own people can revolt and take control of their own country. Turn the corporate news off, it’s rotting your brain so much that you’re literally turning into a liberal right before our eyes on this board. I don’t know if you’re drinking excessive amounts of fluoride laden water or what, but you’ve literally become exactly what you used to rail against and you either don’t even realize it or don’t care. Either way it’s pathetic.

What I see is a government dupe. Don’t be a dupe.

Paulie thinks Iranians are going to become Christian Democrats. . . .

You’re such an idiot. The vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace just like the rest of the vast majority of the world. The NWO was going to usher in a new world religion called Chrislam which was based on Aleister Crowley’s Thelema.. “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”. It’s luciferian in principle. They’ve been playing Muslims, jews, and Christians against each other so they could ignite hate to the point of being able to bring in their “solution” to the problem. By freeing people of religious oppression, this agenda dies. And it’s such a shame that you can’t see that because all you see is NWO everywhere. Guess what my friend.. there are only a small fraction of bad people in this world. The overwhelming majority of people do not want religious oppression, war, etc. It only takes 3% of a population to overthrow oppression. We have exponentially more than that in countless counties now. The world is waking up. If you can’t see that then I really don’t know what to tell you.

That statement I would agree with. . .

The fact you cannot see that Trump is working for the global elites? Makes me laugh though.

You still have never explained that Bolivian shit.

Ok so explain to me in your own words how he’s working for the global elites? I don’t want 50 different links and copy pastes images I want your own thoughts on it. Just like I give you mine.

As far as Bolivia, it doesn’t concern me. It was a communist dictatorship aligned with the Madura regime in Venezuela. I don’t have a single problem intervening for the sake of ridding the world of that shit. Communism and socialism have no place in this world. As long as we aren’t sending our troops to die in a senseless war over it I’m fine with doing anything we can to help free people of the horrible oppression of that ideology. People starve and die under that ideology. They don’t have religious freedom. They have to resort to eating pets to survive. I used to be 100% against foreign intervention but that was in previous administrations where it was clear to me we weren’t freeing anyone from anything. I showed you how there’s a real possibility that we got rid of the bad actors in Saudi Arabia and ended the petrodollar agreement. We don’t need their oil anymore and trump is the first president in how long that has allowed domestic production to take place. Your problem is you don’t think outside the box. You search for websites that confirm the bias you already have that he’s NWO and that doesn’t allow you to break the cognitive dissonance. You WANT to believe he’s NWO because for some reason you want to think we’re all just fucked with no way out. I on the other hand spent an untold amount of time researching and fence sitting and questioning everything I was seeing and it took me quite a while to determine that what we’re seeing is something different. Im the furthest thing from your typical trump worshipper who thinks he can do no wrong. In fact it’s been 3 years of his presidency and I’ve only come to be a supporter of him over the last several months. So o have done MORE than my fair share of due diligence on the situation to come to my position on him.

Now again, let’s hear your take on why you think he’s NWO with just your own words and thoughts. If that’s possible for you.

well they become senseless wars when environmental whacko's and leftist global elitists exist.

 

[jc456]

The Democratic party is a complete joke and a global embarrassment.

Not unlike the R party.

yeah he is obviously another one of those brainwashed sheep that has been brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the corrupt two party system,clueless how they are one in the same,only just have a different name for the appearance of looking better.

Yeah, right. The Democratic party is the UNAmerican party. The party of welcoming foreign terrorists, murderers, drug pushers, and rapists within our borders. The party that condones the slaughter of unborn babies. The party that champions sexual perversion. The party of Communism, Socialism, Marxism. The party of 16oz cokes. The party that takes God and Jesus out of our society.
The party that is the laughing stock of the globe.
The Democratic party has nothing in common with the Republican party.

a heartbeat means life. I'm still amazed that made it out of SCOTUS.

 

[Paulie]

The Democratic party is a complete joke and a global embarrassment.

Not unlike the R party.

yeah he is obviously another one of those brainwashed sheep that has been brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the corrupt two party system,clueless how they are one in the same,only just have a different name for the appearance of looking better.

Yeah, right. The Democratic party is the UNAmerican party. The party of welcoming foreign terrorists, murderers, drug pushers, and rapists within our borders. The party that condones the slaughter of unborn babies. The party that champions sexual perversion. The party of Communism, Socialism, Marxism. The party of 16oz cokes. The party that takes God and Jesus out of our society.
The party that is the laughing stock of the globe.
The Democratic party has nothing in common with the Republican party.

a heartbeat means life. I'm still amazed that made it out of SCOTUS.

It’s life the moment it’s conceived. Just because a heart hasn’t developed yet doesn’t mean it’s not a living being. This heartbeat compromise is one I used to make but no longer. The left likes to say love is love.. that’s fine.. but life is life.

 

[jc456]

The Democratic party is a complete joke and a global embarrassment.

Not unlike the R party.

yeah he is obviously another one of those brainwashed sheep that has been brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the corrupt two party system,clueless how they are one in the same,only just have a different name for the appearance of looking better.

Yeah, right. The Democratic party is the UNAmerican party. The party of welcoming foreign terrorists, murderers, drug pushers, and rapists within our borders. The party that condones the slaughter of unborn babies. The party that champions sexual perversion. The party of Communism, Socialism, Marxism. The party of 16oz cokes. The party that takes God and Jesus out of our society.
The party that is the laughing stock of the globe.
The Democratic party has nothing in common with the Republican party.

a heartbeat means life. I'm still amazed that made it out of SCOTUS.

It’s life the moment it’s conceived. Just because a heart hasn’t developed yet doesn’t mean it’s not a living being. This heartbeat compromise is one I used to make but no longer. The left likes to say love is love.. that’s fine.. but life is life.

My wife lost three. Her being diabetic complicated things. conception most likely someone doesn't know they're pregnant yet. usually they miss a month, and in that month, develops the heart. so the first doctor visit will always be with a heartbeat. My rule is, hear a heartbeat, keep the kid.

 

[Paulie]

Not unlike the R party.

yeah he is obviously another one of those brainwashed sheep that has been brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the corrupt two party system,clueless how they are one in the same,only just have a different name for the appearance of looking better.

Yeah, right. The Democratic party is the UNAmerican party. The party of welcoming foreign terrorists, murderers, drug pushers, and rapists within our borders. The party that condones the slaughter of unborn babies. The party that champions sexual perversion. The party of Communism, Socialism, Marxism. The party of 16oz cokes. The party that takes God and Jesus out of our society.
The party that is the laughing stock of the globe.
The Democratic party has nothing in common with the Republican party.

a heartbeat means life. I'm still amazed that made it out of SCOTUS.

It’s life the moment it’s conceived. Just because a heart hasn’t developed yet doesn’t mean it’s not a living being. This heartbeat compromise is one I used to make but no longer. The left likes to say love is love.. that’s fine.. but life is life.

My wife lost three. Her being diabetic complicated things. conception most likely someone doesn't know they're pregnant yet. usually they miss a month, and in that month, develops the heart. so the first doctor visit will always be with a heartbeat. My rule is, hear a heartbeat, keep the kid.

This is a cop out argument though. If you’re having unprotected sex without any methods of birth control then you should be considering the possibility of pregnancy basically at all times. The only time I’d agree with you on that first month thing is if you’re actively using methods to avoid pregnancy during sex. I could at least understand being blind sided by it in that case. But unprotected sex can and DOES lead to pregnancy, so to ignore that is irresponsible and doesn’t justify abortion by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[MisterBeale]

I know,everytime i ask these clowns how it is possible that Iran a a threat to the world as the media says it is when they have all these US missile surrounding them, everywhere,how is it possible they are a threat,they always go into insult mode evading the question or change the subject EVERYTIME. they NEVER look at the REAL evidence that Israel is the real threat to the world.

Jesus God, you blind stupid, blockheaded dumbfuck, you have the brain of a turnip. One guy living estranged in a fucking cave with a few of his buddies pulled off the biggest terror strike in history, and you wonder how the country of Iran could be dangerous?

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You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

 

[toobfreak]

Jesus God, you blind stupid, blockheaded dumbfuck, you have the brain of a turnip. One guy living estranged in a fucking cave with a few of his buddies pulled off the biggest terror strike in history, and you wonder how the country of Iran could be dangerous?

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How do you think steel is made?

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

IMITATION AND COPYING IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF FLATTERY. All I really need is just the SLIGHTEST credible, verifiable proof that the USA woke up one day and decided to kill Saddam Hussein by going in at night, rigging hundreds of bombs throughout the WTC with no one's knowledge, rig planes with bombs, hire a dozen people around the world to agree to commit suicide, then fly said planes into thousands of important, innocent people and do billions of dollars of damage to half of Manhattan, kill hundreds of police and fire fighters, and destroy a large part of the Pentagon, all so they could justify going over to Iraq and bomb them for a few days, fight fires in Kuwait, to eventually find Saddam hiding in a hole so they could bring him back, let the Iraqis give him a fair trial and NOT take any of the Middle East's oil! Then stay another 20 years so they could let thousands more soldiers die at a cost of billions of dollars! And best of all, no one on the inside ever spilled the beans or blew the whistle! Yet someone blew a whistle on Trump just because he wanted to delay some aid a little while until he was sure there was no corruption, by them, or by a former VP connected to them!

 

[MisterBeale]

What I fail to see is how you aren’t capable of seeing that the Iranians are empowered to fight for their freedom from their oppressive regime for the first time in decades. This is what they’ve been waiting for. It’s been well known that those people have been ripe for revolution and that all it would’ve taken was a little assistance on our part to provide them with the security they would need to be able to pull it off, but we never did anything. All we ever did was use that horrible regime as a fear ploy to scare our own citizens into accepting more war. We’re clearly seeing that we don’t need to go to war with Iran, but that instead their own people can revolt and take control of their own country. Turn the corporate news off, it’s rotting your brain so much that you’re literally turning into a liberal right before our eyes on this board. I don’t know if you’re drinking excessive amounts of fluoride laden water or what, but you’ve literally become exactly what you used to rail against and you either don’t even realize it or don’t care. Either way it’s pathetic.

What I see is a government dupe. Don’t be a dupe.

Paulie thinks Iranians are going to become Christian Democrats. . . .

You’re such an idiot. The vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace just like the rest of the vast majority of the world. The NWO was going to usher in a new world religion called Chrislam which was based on Aleister Crowley’s Thelema.. “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”. It’s luciferian in principle. They’ve been playing Muslims, jews, and Christians against each other so they could ignite hate to the point of being able to bring in their “solution” to the problem. By freeing people of religious oppression, this agenda dies. And it’s such a shame that you can’t see that because all you see is NWO everywhere. Guess what my friend.. there are only a small fraction of bad people in this world. The overwhelming majority of people do not want religious oppression, war, etc. It only takes 3% of a population to overthrow oppression. We have exponentially more than that in countless counties now. The world is waking up. If you can’t see that then I really don’t know what to tell you.

That statement I would agree with. . .

The fact you cannot see that Trump is working for the global elites? Makes me laugh though.

You still have never explained that Bolivian shit.

Ok so explain to me in your own words how he’s working for the global elites? I don’t want 50 different links and copy pastes images I want your own thoughts on it. Just like I give you mine.

As far as Bolivia, it doesn’t concern me. It was a communist dictatorship aligned with the Madura regime in Venezuela. I don’t have a single problem intervening for the sake of ridding the world of that shit. Communism and socialism have no place in this world. As long as we aren’t sending our troops to die in a senseless war over it I’m fine with doing anything we can to help free people of the horrible oppression of that ideology. People starve and die under that ideology. They don’t have religious freedom. They have to resort to eating pets to survive. I used to be 100% against foreign intervention but that was in previous administrations where it was clear to me we weren’t freeing anyone from anything. I showed you how there’s a real possibility that we got rid of the bad actors in Saudi Arabia and ended the petrodollar agreement. We don’t need their oil anymore and trump is the first president in how long that has allowed domestic production to take place. Your problem is you don’t think outside the box. You search for websites that confirm the bias you already have that he’s NWO and that doesn’t allow you to break the cognitive dissonance. You WANT to believe he’s NWO because for some reason you want to think we’re all just fucked with no way out. I on the other hand spent an untold amount of time researching and fence sitting and questioning everything I was seeing and it took me quite a while to determine that what we’re seeing is something different. Im the furthest thing from your typical trump worshipper who thinks he can do no wrong. In fact it’s been 3 years of his presidency and I’ve only come to be a supporter of him over the last several months. So o have done MORE than my fair share of due diligence on the situation to come to my position on him.

Now again, let’s hear your take on why you think he’s NWO with just your own words and thoughts. If that’s possible for you.

The very FACT that you need to exclude Bolivia from your reality paradigm is part of the problem. Trump said he would not invade nation's or nation build anymore. It does not matter to me what or how a nation is ruled, nor what political ideology they have. It is immoral to invade, or take them over based on what a people vote to lead them. It is immoral and unethical to sanction, seize, and make them suffer based on what they choose.

I don't care what your beliefs are, YOU LIVE IN THE U.S., NOT OVER THERE. You have no moral right to impose your rights on other nations.

Trump has always been a member of the ruling elite, his family has always been. Hotels international laundered money for the mob, and was bought by Meyer Lansky who has connections to the CIA. The person that help bailed Trump out of his bankruptcy troubles of his casino's was Rothschild banker, and his now Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross.

You never showed anyone any agreement about anything ending the Petrodollar agreement. Just because we don't need someone's oil anymore, does not mean that the price of oil, and oil markets are not critical to the economy and debt of the U.S. Oil is a commodity, it is fungible. We MUST control all energy, and the price of it on the planet, or else the U.S. will go bankrupt, AGAIN. When this happens, we will be forced to negotiate with the Russians, Chinese, Brazilian, Indian and yes, Iranians, about the new reserve currency. (Or link dollars with something else.)

The living standard of everyone in the U.S. will drop like a stone. It is only though war and bullying we keep the U.S. petrodollar the reserve currency, that we have a living standard higher than most of the world, as we do not produce as much as we should for this living standard.

You have written some pretty evil shit. .. stuff you have been FORCED to write, in order to justify your support of DJT. I feel sorry for you. Ideologues often have to.


I don't care what you think of socialism, Islam, Communism, etc. Unless they attack us? There is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent civilians, starting wars, placing sanctions that starve children and families, etc.

When people choose to do things voluntarily? There is nothing wrong with anything vis-à-vis others. I shop at a food co-op. I do my banking at credit union. If I were not so poor, and had to purchase my own medical? I would probably do it through a Christian Health co-operative like Medishare. All of these are examples of SOCIALISM. It is not socialism that is the problem you dumb as Ideologue, it is government FORCING PEOPLE.

If all these indigenous folks WANT IT? It is not our place to tell them no.

Trump is a part of the Deep State when he uses violence and is seizing international institutions and breaking international law.

If he was not hurting people, INNOCENT PEOPLE? If he did what he said he was going to do when he campaigned? Then sure, you would be right. But he isn't.

International politics is about three things. It is about G.O.D. GOLD OIL DRUGS.

Trump has made sure the gold is still flowing. He hasn't stopped that CIA's clandestine drug trade. IN fact, that is what this whole, "WALL" thing is about, the administration wants to cut out the competition and be damn sure the black op agencies and casino's get their laundered loot.

The opioid epidemic he gave lip service too? It has only gotten worse. The sure way to END IT? Give Afghanistan BACK to the Taliban, instead of having our troops protect the poppy crops. The Taliban has a proven record of cutting the supply to the Anglo-American drug trade.

He said he would. . . . OBL is dead. . . what the hell?

Don't even get me started on his hypocrisy on the gun control shit.

He doesn't give a shit about the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. I don't think he has ever even read them. Why are you fooling yourself? Does he have that much hypnotic power over you?

I judge by what someone says they are going to do and results. Not propaganda and rhetoric.

Troops and bases are still where they are, and nothing is any different than it was under Obama.

 

[MisterBeale]

How do you think steel is made?

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

IMITATION AND COPYING IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF FLATTERY. All I really need is just the SLIGHTEST credible, verifiable proof that the USA woke up one day and decided to kill Saddam Hussein by going in at night, rigging hundreds of bombs throughout the WTC with no one's knowledge, rig planes with bombs, hire a dozen people around the world to agree to commit suicide, then fly said planes into thousands of important, innocent people and do billions of dollars of damage to half of Manhattan, kill hundreds of police and fire fighters, and destroy a large part of the Pentagon, all so they could justify going over to Iraq and bomb them for a few days, fight fires in Kuwait, to eventually find Saddam hiding in a hole so they could bring him back, let the Iraqis give him a fair trial and NOT take any of the Middle East's oil! Then stay another 20 years so they could let thousands more soldiers die at a cost of billions of dollars! And best of all, no one on the inside ever spilled the beans or blew the whistle! Yet someone blew a whistle on Trump just because he wanted to delay some aid a little while until he was sure there was no corruption, by them, or by a former VP connected to them!


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Just trying to show you how dumb you sound.

(btw, not going to refute another post full of lies.)

 

[toobfreak]

How do you think steel is made?

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

IMITATION AND COPYING IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF FLATTERY. All I really need is just the SLIGHTEST credible, verifiable proof that the USA woke up one day and decided to kill Saddam Hussein by going in at night, rigging hundreds of bombs throughout the WTC with no one's knowledge, rig planes with bombs, hire a dozen people around the world to agree to commit suicide, then fly said planes into thousands of important, innocent people and do billions of dollars of damage to half of Manhattan, kill hundreds of police and fire fighters, and destroy a large part of the Pentagon, all so they could justify going over to Iraq and bomb them for a few days, fight fires in Kuwait, to eventually find Saddam hiding in a hole so they could bring him back, let the Iraqis give him a fair trial and NOT take any of the Middle East's oil! Then stay another 20 years so they could let thousands more soldiers die at a cost of billions of dollars! And best of all, no one on the inside ever spilled the beans or blew the whistle! Yet someone blew a whistle on Trump just because he wanted to delay some aid a little while until he was sure there was no corruption, by them, or by a former VP connected to them!


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Just trying to show you how dumb you sound.

(btw, not going to refute another post full of lies.)

I never sound dumb. You must have the receiver to your ear upside-down again.

 

[MisterBeale]

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

IMITATION AND COPYING IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF FLATTERY. All I really need is just the SLIGHTEST credible, verifiable proof that the USA woke up one day and decided to kill Saddam Hussein by going in at night, rigging hundreds of bombs throughout the WTC with no one's knowledge, rig planes with bombs, hire a dozen people around the world to agree to commit suicide, then fly said planes into thousands of important, innocent people and do billions of dollars of damage to half of Manhattan, kill hundreds of police and fire fighters, and destroy a large part of the Pentagon, all so they could justify going over to Iraq and bomb them for a few days, fight fires in Kuwait, to eventually find Saddam hiding in a hole so they could bring him back, let the Iraqis give him a fair trial and NOT take any of the Middle East's oil! Then stay another 20 years so they could let thousands more soldiers die at a cost of billions of dollars! And best of all, no one on the inside ever spilled the beans or blew the whistle! Yet someone blew a whistle on Trump just because he wanted to delay some aid a little while until he was sure there was no corruption, by them, or by a former VP connected to them!


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Just trying to show you how dumb you sound.

(btw, not going to refute another post full of lies.)

I never sound dumb. You must have the receiver to your ear upside-down again.

Yeah you do. You constructed a straw-man, and told me to disprove it.

 

[toobfreak]

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

IMITATION AND COPYING IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF FLATTERY. All I really need is just the SLIGHTEST credible, verifiable proof that the USA woke up one day and decided to kill Saddam Hussein by going in at night, rigging hundreds of bombs throughout the WTC with no one's knowledge, rig planes with bombs, hire a dozen people around the world to agree to commit suicide, then fly said planes into thousands of important, innocent people and do billions of dollars of damage to half of Manhattan, kill hundreds of police and fire fighters, and destroy a large part of the Pentagon, all so they could justify going over to Iraq and bomb them for a few days, fight fires in Kuwait, to eventually find Saddam hiding in a hole so they could bring him back, let the Iraqis give him a fair trial and NOT take any of the Middle East's oil! Then stay another 20 years so they could let thousands more soldiers die at a cost of billions of dollars! And best of all, no one on the inside ever spilled the beans or blew the whistle! Yet someone blew a whistle on Trump just because he wanted to delay some aid a little while until he was sure there was no corruption, by them, or by a former VP connected to them!


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Just trying to show you how dumb you sound.

(btw, not going to refute another post full of lies.)

I never sound dumb. You must have the receiver to your ear upside-down again.

Yeah you do. You constructed a straw-man, and told me to disprove it.

You obviously know all the cutsie words but little of their meaning. I made a MODUS PONENS, which is the height of a valid argument.

 

[MisterBeale]

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

IMITATION AND COPYING IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF FLATTERY. All I really need is just the SLIGHTEST credible, verifiable proof that the USA woke up one day and decided to kill Saddam Hussein by going in at night, rigging hundreds of bombs throughout the WTC with no one's knowledge, rig planes with bombs, hire a dozen people around the world to agree to commit suicide, then fly said planes into thousands of important, innocent people and do billions of dollars of damage to half of Manhattan, kill hundreds of police and fire fighters, and destroy a large part of the Pentagon, all so they could justify going over to Iraq and bomb them for a few days, fight fires in Kuwait, to eventually find Saddam hiding in a hole so they could bring him back, let the Iraqis give him a fair trial and NOT take any of the Middle East's oil! Then stay another 20 years so they could let thousands more soldiers die at a cost of billions of dollars! And best of all, no one on the inside ever spilled the beans or blew the whistle! Yet someone blew a whistle on Trump just because he wanted to delay some aid a little while until he was sure there was no corruption, by them, or by a former VP connected to them!


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Just trying to show you how dumb you sound.

(btw, not going to refute another post full of lies.)

I never sound dumb. You must have the receiver to your ear upside-down again.

Yeah you do. You constructed a straw-man, and told me to disprove it.

You obviously know all the cutsie words but little of their meaning. I made a MODUS PONENS, which is the height of a valid argument.

No, you didn't.

You made invalid assumptions. You have no prima facie evidence, other than the epistemological construction of the establishment. You can't infer shit.

Thus, as I said, you sound like an idiot.

 

[toobfreak]

You made invalid assumptions.

List them. I'm all ears. Put up or shut up.
Anyone can claim another person is wrong without ever proving it or how they are right and know better.
Talk is cheap. I want FACTS.

 

[MisterBeale]

You made invalid assumptions.

List them. I'm all ears. Put up or shut up.
Anyone can claim another person is wrong without ever proving it or how they are right and know better.
Talk is cheap. I want FACTS.

Listen, neither of us want to do this now, or here.


It isn't our first rodeo, and we aren't going to change each others minds.

If you still believe the official government story, you have either not done a lot of research into it, don't know a lot about it, or, you are;


1) a disinformation asset,

or

2) clearly pretty dumb and brainwashed by intel. infiltrated mass media.

It would be pointless for either of us to have this conversation. . . again.

So if you really want to do this?

Choose some other thread and go there to argue what you read in them.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/search/21151233/?q=9/11+conspiracy+theory&o=relevance

 

[lennypartiv]

Yep. It all comes down to the petro dollar.

As it should since our cars run on oil.

 

[buckeye45_73]

That’s right. He won’t be re-elected. His cowardly and enormously stupid cold blooded killing of the general has needlessly inflamed the region, and now Americans will die.

He campaigned on nonintervention, just as his two lying predecessors did, but now we know he too is a liar.

Donnie just made Sniify Joe look like a foreign policy expert. God help us.

What, killing a general who killed americans is just and the right thing. Iran wont fuck with Trump, because they know he'll fuck them harder....its the policy of Reagan.....hit me, I'm gonna hit you much much harder.

 

[Paulie]

What I see is a government dupe. Don’t be a dupe.

Paulie thinks Iranians are going to become Christian Democrats. . . .

You’re such an idiot. The vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace just like the rest of the vast majority of the world. The NWO was going to usher in a new world religion called Chrislam which was based on Aleister Crowley’s Thelema.. “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”. It’s luciferian in principle. They’ve been playing Muslims, jews, and Christians against each other so they could ignite hate to the point of being able to bring in their “solution” to the problem. By freeing people of religious oppression, this agenda dies. And it’s such a shame that you can’t see that because all you see is NWO everywhere. Guess what my friend.. there are only a small fraction of bad people in this world. The overwhelming majority of people do not want religious oppression, war, etc. It only takes 3% of a population to overthrow oppression. We have exponentially more than that in countless counties now. The world is waking up. If you can’t see that then I really don’t know what to tell you.

That statement I would agree with. . .

The fact you cannot see that Trump is working for the global elites? Makes me laugh though.

You still have never explained that Bolivian shit.

Ok so explain to me in your own words how he’s working for the global elites? I don’t want 50 different links and copy pastes images I want your own thoughts on it. Just like I give you mine.

As far as Bolivia, it doesn’t concern me. It was a communist dictatorship aligned with the Madura regime in Venezuela. I don’t have a single problem intervening for the sake of ridding the world of that shit. Communism and socialism have no place in this world. As long as we aren’t sending our troops to die in a senseless war over it I’m fine with doing anything we can to help free people of the horrible oppression of that ideology. People starve and die under that ideology. They don’t have religious freedom. They have to resort to eating pets to survive. I used to be 100% against foreign intervention but that was in previous administrations where it was clear to me we weren’t freeing anyone from anything. I showed you how there’s a real possibility that we got rid of the bad actors in Saudi Arabia and ended the petrodollar agreement. We don’t need their oil anymore and trump is the first president in how long that has allowed domestic production to take place. Your problem is you don’t think outside the box. You search for websites that confirm the bias you already have that he’s NWO and that doesn’t allow you to break the cognitive dissonance. You WANT to believe he’s NWO because for some reason you want to think we’re all just fucked with no way out. I on the other hand spent an untold amount of time researching and fence sitting and questioning everything I was seeing and it took me quite a while to determine that what we’re seeing is something different. Im the furthest thing from your typical trump worshipper who thinks he can do no wrong. In fact it’s been 3 years of his presidency and I’ve only come to be a supporter of him over the last several months. So o have done MORE than my fair share of due diligence on the situation to come to my position on him.

Now again, let’s hear your take on why you think he’s NWO with just your own words and thoughts. If that’s possible for you.

The very FACT that you need to exclude Bolivia from your reality paradigm is part of the problem. Trump said he would not invade nation's or nation build anymore. It does not matter to me what or how a nation is ruled, nor what political ideology they have. It is immoral to invade, or take them over based on what a people vote to lead them. It is immoral and unethical to sanction, seize, and make them suffer based on what they choose.

I don't care what your beliefs are, YOU LIVE IN THE U.S., NOT OVER THERE. You have no moral right to impose your rights on other nations.

Trump has always been a member of the ruling elite, his family has always been. Hotels international laundered money for the mob, and was bought by Meyer Lansky who has connections to the CIA. The person that help bailed Trump out of his bankruptcy troubles of his casino's was Rothschild banker, and his now Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross.

You never showed anyone any agreement about anything ending the Petrodollar agreement. Just because we don't need someone's oil anymore, does not mean that the price of oil, and oil markets are not critical to the economy and debt of the U.S. Oil is a commodity, it is fungible. We MUST control all energy, and the price of it on the planet, or else the U.S. will go bankrupt, AGAIN. When this happens, we will be forced to negotiate with the Russians, Chinese, Brazilian, Indian and yes, Iranians, about the new reserve currency. (Or link dollars with something else.)

The living standard of everyone in the U.S. will drop like a stone. It is only though war and bullying we keep the U.S. petrodollar the reserve currency, that we have a living standard higher than most of the world, as we do not produce as much as we should for this living standard.

You have written some pretty evil shit. .. stuff you have been FORCED to write, in order to justify your support of DJT. I feel sorry for you. Ideologues often have to.


I don't care what you think of socialism, Islam, Communism, etc. Unless they attack us? There is NO EXCUSE for killing innocent civilians, starting wars, placing sanctions that starve children and families, etc.

When people choose to do things voluntarily? There is nothing wrong with anything vis-à-vis others. I shop at a food co-op. I do my banking at credit union. If I were not so poor, and had to purchase my own medical? I would probably do it through a Christian Health co-operative like Medishare. All of these are examples of SOCIALISM. It is not socialism that is the problem you dumb as Ideologue, it is government FORCING PEOPLE.

If all these indigenous folks WANT IT? It is not our place to tell them no.

Trump is a part of the Deep State when he uses violence and is seizing international institutions and breaking international law.

If he was not hurting people, INNOCENT PEOPLE? If he did what he said he was going to do when he campaigned? Then sure, you would be right. But he isn't.

International politics is about three things. It is about G.O.D. GOLD OIL DRUGS.

Trump has made sure the gold is still flowing. He hasn't stopped that CIA's clandestine drug trade. IN fact, that is what this whole, "WALL" thing is about, the administration wants to cut out the competition and be damn sure the black op agencies and casino's get their laundered loot.

The opioid epidemic he gave lip service too? It has only gotten worse. The sure way to END IT? Give Afghanistan BACK to the Taliban, instead of having our troops protect the poppy crops. The Taliban has a proven record of cutting the supply to the Anglo-American drug trade.

He said he would. . . . OBL is dead. . . what the hell?

Don't even get me started on his hypocrisy on the gun control shit.

He doesn't give a shit about the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. I don't think he has ever even read them. Why are you fooling yourself? Does he have that much hypnotic power over you?

I judge by what someone says they are going to do and results. Not propaganda and rhetoric.

Troops and bases are still where they are, and nothing is any different than it was under Obama.

There’s a lot in here I disagree with, and see much differently than you do based on dots I’ve connected. I really don’t care to keep debating it because no one changes their mind on the internet anyway and I’d rather be united than divided over differing opinions. But I appreciate your effort in providing your own personal thoughts on it. We’re just going to have to wait and see what happens. Trumps base is expecting prison sentences for crimes against humanity and corruption. It’s only going to be so long before they begin to take matters into their own hands if he doesn’t come through. I’ve seen the chatter all over the internet. The right, the gun owners of America, have had enough and are about as close as it’s ever come to revolution since the 1700’s. He’s clearly going to get 4 more years so the ball is going to be in his court. But if Virginia is any kind of example, we can expect that the military is absolutely NOT going to comply with any orders to disarm or engage American citizens. That much we can be pretty sure about.

We’ll see when we see.

 

[jc456]

yeah he is obviously another one of those brainwashed sheep that has been brainwashed by our corrupt school system that there is a difference in the corrupt two party system,clueless how they are one in the same,only just have a different name for the appearance of looking better.

Yeah, right. The Democratic party is the UNAmerican party. The party of welcoming foreign terrorists, murderers, drug pushers, and rapists within our borders. The party that condones the slaughter of unborn babies. The party that champions sexual perversion. The party of Communism, Socialism, Marxism. The party of 16oz cokes. The party that takes God and Jesus out of our society.
The party that is the laughing stock of the globe.
The Democratic party has nothing in common with the Republican party.

a heartbeat means life. I'm still amazed that made it out of SCOTUS.

It’s life the moment it’s conceived. Just because a heart hasn’t developed yet doesn’t mean it’s not a living being. This heartbeat compromise is one I used to make but no longer. The left likes to say love is love.. that’s fine.. but life is life.

My wife lost three. Her being diabetic complicated things. conception most likely someone doesn't know they're pregnant yet. usually they miss a month, and in that month, develops the heart. so the first doctor visit will always be with a heartbeat. My rule is, hear a heartbeat, keep the kid.

This is a cop out argument though. If you’re having unprotected sex without any methods of birth control then you should be considering the possibility of pregnancy basically at all times. The only time I’d agree with you on that first month thing is if you’re actively using methods to avoid pregnancy during sex. I could at least understand being blind sided by it in that case. But unprotected sex can and DOES lead to pregnancy, so to ignore that is irresponsible and doesn’t justify abortion by any stretch of the imagination.

we will agree to disagree then.

 

[jc456]

Jesus God, you blind stupid, blockheaded dumbfuck, you have the brain of a turnip. One guy living estranged in a fucking cave with a few of his buddies pulled off the biggest terror strike in history, and you wonder how the country of Iran could be dangerous?

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How do you think steel is made?

You know,. West, I'm getting sick of crackpots who call it a conspiracy theory to believe America was attacked by a known terror organization, with thousands of pages and people and years of documentation all intricately supporting it, then go on in the same breath to claim that the "truth" is that the WTC was taken down by some unlikely, bizarre, obscure, devious plot involving massive planning and preparation to an unthinkably fantastic level that no one detected, there are no first hand witnesses to and no evidence for at all other than a few crank conspiracy websites!

The nation is in real danger when the unwashed masses would rather prefer believing in conspiracies as facts while claiming the facts to be conspiracy theories, not able to tell the one from other then believing it is "brainwashing" to actually take the facts on their face value.

All lies. Stop being a dupe for the oligarchs.

You know, Gipper, I'm getting sick of STATISTS who swallow establishment lies when the Deep State uses cointelpro to have Americans attacked with exotic technologies and the terrorist organizations that the Deep State created, while at the same time have the self same government that funds these Deep State agencies "investigate" their nefarious activities to lie to the public about their activities. Then, in the same breath, it will with some bizarre logic, which Americans can see right in front of them, after it is classified, shredded and otherwise obfuscated, are told does not exist when thousands of scientists, engineers, airline pilots, experts, whistle-blowers and witnesses. . . . (the ones that are not mysteriously dying, killed, or disappeared,) tell them first accounts otherwise.

The nation is in real danger when the psychopathic elites would rather have the nations mass hypnotized by lies in order to scare them into decades of endless and pointless wars for the ruling elites, not able to tell one from the other, believing the government "conspiracy theory," when they actually see, read, or hear rational proof of how silly the government conspiracy theory actually is, and the reason they Deep State is selling it.

Mueller?