On this 4th of July....Don't forget to thank a liberal

[Freewill]

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Actually, they created a country where the lowest farm hand had not vote, and the richest farm hand owned human beings. I always dislike saying that our founding fathers created the greatest country on Earth, because if that were true then why have we changed anything? The greatest country on Earth is created by Americans who are willing to grow as a society, looking ever forward for improvement.

It is the greatest because we can change things.

 

[Derideo_Te]

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Actually, they created a country where the lowest farm hand had not vote, and the richest farm hand owned human beings. I always dislike saying that our founding fathers created the greatest country on Earth, because if that were true then why have we changed anything? The greatest country on Earth is created by Americans who are willing to grow as a society, looking ever forward for improvement.

If they hadn't started the process do you think that we would be where we are today?

No one can wave a magic wand and create a utopia from scratch.

The Founding Fathers were both smart enough and liberal enough to understand that what they put in place would have to evolve and change as society did. That is why they included a means to change the Constitution from what they wrote to what we have today.

Great leaders have a vision and can inspire others to make it a reality.

The Founding Fathers vision still inspires us to continue to form an ever more perfect union with Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness for all.

Considering that their vision was more than 2 centuries ago that was most definitely one of the greatest liberal visions of all time.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Our founders were the greatest liberal thinkers of their day

The concept of the equality of man was a breakthrough in history

Indeed it was although they stood on the shoulders of those who had fought and died for our freedoms going back many centuries.

Magna Carta Inspiration for America s Founding Fathers to Visit Museum of Fine Arts Boston Museum of Fine Arts Boston

It was the Magna Carta that inspired them to go from the conservative concept of being governed by a monarch to the liberal concept of governance by We the People.

That liberal breakthrough is the legacy they gave us and which we still build on today.

There is even more to be thankful for this 4th of July since we now have Equality for gays and Healthcare for all.

There are still 30 million Americans that do not have health insurance.

It was almost 50 million before Obamacare.

That number will continue to decrease as time goes on.

 

[Pogo]

Which are a subset of the left.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I prefer to thank these people....

 

[rightwinger]

Imagine a world where a certain class was born to rule over those who were born to lower classes
Your position in society was based on your birth, not what you accomplish after your birth

The liberals of the day stood up and declared.......All men are created equal

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Thank a liberal





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You're funny, timmy. you should have lassie post for you.

Only PROPERTY OWNERS could vote when this land became a country.
U.S. Voting Rights

Very true

They expanded it to all men within twenty years...still our liberal founders doing it

 

[rightwinger]

I prefer to thank these people....

No veterans signed the Declaration of Independence

Just liberals......conservatives refused to sign

 

[blackhawk]

I prefer to thank these people....

A truly good post in a sea of partisan bull shit.

 

[SwimExpert]

No one can wave a magic wand and create a utopia from scratch.

Just like a liberal, dreaming of utopia....

 

[Auld Phart]

Imagine a world where a certain class was born to rule over those who were born to lower classes
Your position in society was based on your birth, not what you accomplish after your birth

The liberals of the day stood up and declared.......All men are created equal

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Thank a liberal





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You're funny, timmy. you should have lassie post for you.

Only PROPERTY OWNERS could vote when this land became a country.
U.S. Voting Rights

Very true

They expanded it to all men within twenty years...still our liberal founders doing it

Including the half that decided to start the republican party.

Go away, little boy,

play fetch with your doggie til school starts.

then do your best to get an education.

 

[BULLDOG]

I know, right? It's like Father's Day where you have 300 million kids.

The left really does see people as children tho. That's not even an exaggeration. They ultimately see centrists and rightists as ignorant, disobedient children rebelling against what they're obviously doing in our best interest, which is why we have to be forced into their better, brighter society. It's why far left nations historically have to build walls around their borders and have their guards facing inwards. They just believe in autonomy and freedom of choice like that.

Not really, even though right wingers are pretty childish.

 

[blackhawk]

I prefer to thank these people....

No veterans signed the Declaration of Independence

Just liberals......conservatives refused to sign

The veterans were just the ones who fought for and won the indpendence all conservatives no liberals.

 

[Vigilante]

Our founders were the greatest liberal thinkers of their day

The concept of the equality of man was a breakthrough in history

Indeed it was although they stood on the shoulders of those who had fought and died for our freedoms going back many centuries.

Magna Carta Inspiration for America s Founding Fathers to Visit Museum of Fine Arts Boston Museum of Fine Arts Boston

It was the Magna Carta that inspired them to go from the conservative concept of being governed by a monarch to the liberal concept of governance by We the People.

That liberal breakthrough is the legacy they gave us and which we still build on today.

There is even more to be thankful for this 4th of July since we now have Equality for gays and Healthcare for all.

There are still 30 million Americans that do not have health insurance.

It was almost 50 million before Obamacare.

That number will continue to decrease as time goes on.

7 Million Lose Health Insurance Under 'Obamacare'

What was to be a $2500 per year savings has grown into AT LEAST a $2500 a year INCREASE!

 

[regent]

If the colonies had already voted independence on July 2nd. what was the purpose of voting to adopt the Declaration of Independence document on July 4th?

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Just liberals......conservatives refused to sign

You do realize that none of the conservative veterans who actually fought the war on the front lines and saved Franklin's neck from the gallows were invited to the signing, right? They went back home to their families, farms, and shops and hoped that they bled for something worthwhile, pretty much exactly like we do today.

 

[rightwinger]

Imagine a world where a certain class was born to rule over those who were born to lower classes
Your position in society was based on your birth, not what you accomplish after your birth

The liberals of the day stood up and declared.......All men are created equal

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Thank a liberal





.

You're funny, timmy. you should have lassie post for you.

Only PROPERTY OWNERS could vote when this land became a country.
U.S. Voting Rights

Very true

They expanded it to all men within twenty years...still our liberal founders doing it

Including the half that decided to start the republican party.

Go away, little boy,

play fetch with your doggie til school starts.

then do your best to get an education.

The Republican Party was started entirely by liberals

They share none of the values of their founding members

 

[Vigilante]

If the colonies had already voted independence on July 2nd. what was the purpose of voting to adopt the Declaration of Independence document on July 4th?

THE SIGNING!!!!

 

[Pogo]

If the colonies had already voted independence on July 2nd. what was the purpose of voting to adopt the Declaration of Independence document on July 4th?

They wanted to do it on the holiday.

 

[rightwinger]

Just liberals......conservatives refused to sign

You do realize that none of the conservative veterans who actually fought the war on the front lines and saved Franklin's neck from the gallows were invited to the signing, right?

We are talking 1776

There were no veterans

 

[Vigilante]

Imagine a world where a certain class was born to rule over those who were born to lower classes
Your position in society was based on your birth, not what you accomplish after your birth

The liberals of the day stood up and declared.......All men are created equal

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Thank a liberal





.

You're funny, timmy. you should have lassie post for you.

Only PROPERTY OWNERS could vote when this land became a country.
U.S. Voting Rights

Very true

They expanded it to all men within twenty years...still our liberal founders doing it

Including the half that decided to start the republican party.

Go away, little boy,

play fetch with your doggie til school starts.

then do your best to get an education.

The Republican Party was started entirely by liberals

They share none of the values of their founding members

The Republican party was formed as a anti-slavery party, your Democrats were for slavery and still are! by their legislation!