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Official Who Ignored Request for Water During Maui Inferno: 'Water Requires Conversations Around Equity'
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Global warming isn't "causing everything".
Sure it isn't.
Climate change makes for shorter winters
Winter Will Be Shorter Over The Next Century Thanks To Global Warming
New research found that spring could come three weeks earlier in 2100. While a seemingly minor change, this could spell possible disruption to the delicate ecobalance between environment and flora and fauna.
www.techtimes.com
Climate change makes for harsher winters
Global warming has doubled risk of harsh winters in Eurasia, research finds
Severe winters are more likely over the next few decades due to climate change melting Arctic ice and sending freezing air south, according to new research
www.theguardian.com
Climate change means less snow
Climate change means more snow
Global warming means more snowstorms: scientists
Climate change is not only making the planet warmer, it is also making snowstorms stronger and more frequent, US scientists said on Tuesday.
Climate change causes droughts in California
| EarthSky
A new study suggests that natural forces are behind California’s drought, but that global warming has contributed 8-27% to the drought’s severity.
earthsky.org
Climate change causes floods in Texas and Oklahoma
Global warming intensified the record floods in Texas and Oklahoma | John Abraham
John Abraham: A new study finds a human fingerprint in the wettest month on record in Texas and Oklahoma
www.theguardian.com
Climate change makes wet places wetter and dry places drier...
What is climate change? - NCAS
Climate change is a shift in the average climate over a long period of time. Today, our climate is changing rapidly, driven by human activities. The average temperature of the planet has risen by…
ncas.ac.uk
...except when it makes wet places dryer...
Unusual Drought in Thailand Makes High Vulnerability to Climate Change Evident
Unusual Drought in Thailand Makes High Vulnerability to Climate Change Evident | Earth Day Network
Thailand is experiencing a peculiar dry season this year. The country’s climate is characterized by a hot season, a dry season, and a monsoon season. However this year’s dry season is compromising the water reserves of Thailand’s capital, Bangkok.
...and dry places wetter
South Carolina flooding is the type of event climate scientists have warned about for years
South Carolina flooding is the type of event climate scientists have warned about for years
mashable.com
Climate change causes more hurricanes
Hurricanes Have Doubled Due to Global Warming, Study Says
Hurricanes Have Doubled Due to Global Warming, Study Says
The number of hurricanes that form each year is twice what it was a hundred years ago and shows no signs of "backing down," scientists say.
web.archive.org
Climate change causes less hurricanes
Global warming means fewer—but more powerful—hurricanes
Hurricane formation is inhibited, but those that do form pack a powerful punch.
arstechnica.com
Climate change causes more rain (but less water)
The Irony of Global Warming: More Rain, Less Water
Even thought a warmer planet is expected to bring more precipitation, we humans may not be able to capture enough of it.
Climate change causes less rain
Less rain in a warmer world - Nature
Global warming and pollution could give us drier days.
www.nature.com
Climate change decreases the spread of malaria
Global warming wilts malaria - Nature
Transmission of infectious parasites slows with rising temperatures, researchers find.
www.nature.com
Climate change increases the spread of malaria
Climate Change Increasing Malaria Risk as Disease Spreads to Higher Altitudes
High altitude residents in the tropics at risk of disease spread by mosquitos as a result of rising temperatures.
www.ibtimes.co.uk
Climate change makes San Francisco foggier
Get ready for even foggier summers
Global warming is warming the interior part of California, but it leads to a reverse...
www.sfgate.com
Climate change makes San Francisco less foggy
Fog over San Francisco thins by a third due to climate change
The sight of Golden Gate Bridge towering above the fog will become increasing rare as climate change warms San Francisco bay, scientists have found.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Climate change causes duller autumn leaves
Why Autumn Leaves May Be Dulled by Climate Change
The beloved colors of fall foliage may arrive later, duller — and in Canada — thanks to climate change.
www.livescience.com
Climate changes causes more colourful autumn leaves
Are these colours caused by global warming?
The Tree Council this week said global warming caused this season's russet reds to deep golden yellows.
www.theguardian.com
Climate change makes for less salty seas
Global Warming Makes Sea Less Salty
Climate changes have melted glaciers and brought more rain, dumping more fresh water into the oceans.
www.livescience.com
Climate change makes for saltier seas
Climate change making seas more salty, research finds
Global warming is making the sea more salty, according to new research that demonstrates the massive shifts in natural systems triggered by climate change
www.theguardian.com
Climate change causes Antarctica to lose land ice
Antarctic ice is melting so fast the whole continent may be at risk by 2100
New research predicts a doubling of surface melting of the ice shelves by 2050, risking their collapse by the end of the century, say scientists
www.theguardian.com
Climate change causes Antarctica to gain land ice
Antarctica Might Be Gaining Ice, But Global Warming Ain't Over
Reports of the death of climate change have been greatly exaggerated.
Climate change makes the earth hotter...
Global Warming: Scientists Say Earth Is Heating Up - Windows to the Universe
...unless the earth isn't getting hotter...
The robust Pause resists a robust el Niño Still no global warming at all for 18 years 9 months
By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley The Christmas pantomime here in Paris is well int0 its two-week run. The Druids who had hoped that their gibbering incantations might begin to shorten the Pause…
wattsupwiththat.com
...in which case climate change can explain that, too.
Have the seas been HIDING the true scale of climate change?
A layer of the Indian and Pacific oceans between 300 and 1,000ft below the surface has been accumulating more heat than previously recognised, a Nasa report claims.
Science as Falsification
The following excerpt was originally published in Conjectures and Refutations (1963).by Karl R. Popper
" . . . . These considerations led me in the winter of 1919-20 to conclusions which I may now reformulate as follows.
- It is easy to obtain confirmations, or verifications, for nearly every theory — if we look for confirmations.
- Confirmations should count only if they are the result of risky predictions; that is to say, if, unenlightened by the theory in question, we should have expected an event which was incompatible with the theory — an event which would have refuted the theory.
- Every "good" scientific theory is a prohibition: it forbids certain things to happen. The more a theory forbids, the better it is.
- A theory which is not refutable by any conceivable event is non-scientific. Irrefutability is not a virtue of a theory (as people often think) but a vice.
- Every genuine test of a theory is an attempt to falsify it, or to refute it. Testability is falsifiability; but there are degrees of testability: some theories are more testable, more exposed to refutation, than others; they take, as it were, greater risks.
- Confirming evidence should not count except when it is the result of a genuine test of the theory; and this means that it can be presented as a serious but unsuccessful attempt to falsify the theory. (I now speak in such cases of "corroborating evidence.")
- Some genuinely testable theories, when found to be false, are still upheld by their admirers — for example by introducing ad hoc some auxiliary assumption, or by reinterpreting the theory ad hoc in such a way that it escapes refutation. Such a procedure is always possible, but it rescues the theory from refutation only at the price of destroying, or at least lowering, its scientific status. (I later described such a rescuing operation as a "conventionalist twist" or a "conventionalist stratagem.")
One can sum up all this by saying that the criterion of the scientific status of a theory is its falsifiability, or refutability, or testability. . . . "
"Karl Popper famously said, "A theory that explains everything explains nothing." So what do you make of the theory that catastrophic manmade CO2-driven "climate change" can account for harsher winters and lighter winters, more snow and less snow, droughts and floods, more hurricanes and less hurricanes, more rain and less rain, more malaria and less malaria, saltier seas and less salty seas, Antarctica ice melting and Antarctic ice gaining and dozens of other contradictions? Popper gave a name to "theories" like this: pseudoscience."
Climate Change is Unfalsifiable Woo-Woo Pseudoscience
Climate Change is Unfalsifiable Woo-Woo Pseudoscience | The Corbett Report
www.corbettreport.com
Something ain't right about the Hawaii fire. These people live over a lava flow 24/7 and something is always erupting somewhere in Hawaii. Wouldn't you think they would be prepared for fire with seawater pumps? They still haven't figured out how it started?
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Something ain't right about the Hawaii fire. These people live over a lava flow 24/7 and something is always erupting somewhere in Hawaii. Wouldn't you think they would be prepared for fire with seawater pumps? They still haven't figured out how it started?
I don't think Maui has an active volcano, it's one of the older islands.
Correction, it's considered active, but hasn't erupted in centuries.
I know that. It's just that this coming hurricane season has been forecast to be one the worst in history.Florida gets wiped out by a hurricane every few years, idiot.
Sure it isn't.
Climate change makes for shorter winters
Winter Will Be Shorter Over The Next Century Thanks To Global Warming
New research found that spring could come three weeks earlier in 2100. While a seemingly minor change, this could spell possible disruption to the delicate ecobalance between environment and flora and fauna.
Climate change makes for harsher winters
Global warming has doubled risk of harsh winters in Eurasia, research finds
Severe winters are more likely over the next few decades due to climate change melting Arctic ice and sending freezing air south, according to new research
Climate change means less snow
Climate change means more snow
Global warming means more snowstorms: scientists
Climate change is not only making the planet warmer, it is also making snowstorms stronger and more frequent, US scientists said on Tuesday.phys.org
Climate change causes droughts in California
| EarthSky
A new study suggests that natural forces are behind California’s drought, but that global warming has contributed 8-27% to the drought’s severity.
Climate change causes floods in Texas and Oklahoma
Global warming intensified the record floods in Texas and Oklahoma | John Abraham
John Abraham: A new study finds a human fingerprint in the wettest month on record in Texas and Oklahoma
Climate change makes wet places wetter and dry places drier...
What is climate change? - NCAS
Climate change is a shift in the average climate over a long period of time. Today, our climate is changing rapidly, driven by human activities. The average temperature of the planet has risen by…
...except when it makes wet places dryer...
Unusual Drought in Thailand Makes High Vulnerability to Climate Change Evident
Unusual Drought in Thailand Makes High Vulnerability to Climate Change Evident | Earth Day Network
Thailand is experiencing a peculiar dry season this year. The country’s climate is characterized by a hot season, a dry season, and a monsoon season. However this year’s dry season is compromising the water reserves of Thailand’s capital, Bangkok.web.archive.org
...and dry places wetter
South Carolina flooding is the type of event climate scientists have warned about for years
South Carolina flooding is the type of event climate scientists have warned about for years
Climate change causes more hurricanes
Hurricanes Have Doubled Due to Global Warming, Study Says
Hurricanes Have Doubled Due to Global Warming, Study Says
The number of hurricanes that form each year is twice what it was a hundred years ago and shows no signs of "backing down," scientists say.web.archive.org
Climate change causes less hurricanes
Global warming means fewer—but more powerful—hurricanes
Hurricane formation is inhibited, but those that do form pack a powerful punch.
Climate change causes more rain (but less water)
The Irony of Global Warming: More Rain, Less Water
Even thought a warmer planet is expected to bring more precipitation, we humans may not be able to capture enough of it.www.livescience.com
Climate change causes less rain
Less rain in a warmer world - Nature
Global warming and pollution could give us drier days.
Climate change decreases the spread of malaria
Global warming wilts malaria - Nature
Transmission of infectious parasites slows with rising temperatures, researchers find.
Climate change increases the spread of malaria
Climate Change Increasing Malaria Risk as Disease Spreads to Higher Altitudes
High altitude residents in the tropics at risk of disease spread by mosquitos as a result of rising temperatures.
Climate change makes San Francisco foggier
Get ready for even foggier summers
Global warming is warming the interior part of California, but it leads to a reverse...
Climate change makes San Francisco less foggy
Fog over San Francisco thins by a third due to climate change
The sight of Golden Gate Bridge towering above the fog will become increasing rare as climate change warms San Francisco bay, scientists have found.
Climate change causes duller autumn leaves
Why Autumn Leaves May Be Dulled by Climate Change
The beloved colors of fall foliage may arrive later, duller — and in Canada — thanks to climate change.
Climate changes causes more colourful autumn leaves
Are these colours caused by global warming?
The Tree Council this week said global warming caused this season's russet reds to deep golden yellows.
Climate change makes for less salty seas
Global Warming Makes Sea Less Salty
Climate changes have melted glaciers and brought more rain, dumping more fresh water into the oceans.
Climate change makes for saltier seas
Climate change making seas more salty, research finds
Global warming is making the sea more salty, according to new research that demonstrates the massive shifts in natural systems triggered by climate change
Climate change causes Antarctica to lose land ice
Antarctic ice is melting so fast the whole continent may be at risk by 2100
New research predicts a doubling of surface melting of the ice shelves by 2050, risking their collapse by the end of the century, say scientists
Climate change causes Antarctica to gain land ice
Antarctica Might Be Gaining Ice, But Global Warming Ain't Over
Reports of the death of climate change have been greatly exaggerated.www.wired.com
Climate change makes the earth hotter...
Global Warming: Scientists Say Earth Is Heating Up - Windows to the Universe
www.windows2universe.org
...unless the earth isn't getting hotter...
The robust Pause resists a robust el Niño Still no global warming at all for 18 years 9 months
By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley The Christmas pantomime here in Paris is well int0 its two-week run. The Druids who had hoped that their gibbering incantations might begin to shorten the Pause…
...in which case climate change can explain that, too.
Have the seas been HIDING the true scale of climate change?
A layer of the Indian and Pacific oceans between 300 and 1,000ft below the surface has been accumulating more heat than previously recognised, a Nasa report claims.www.dailymail.co.uk
Science as Falsification
The following excerpt was originally published in Conjectures and Refutations (1963).
by Karl R. Popper
" . . . . These considerations led me in the winter of 1919-20 to conclusions which I may now reformulate as follows.
- It is easy to obtain confirmations, or verifications, for nearly every theory — if we look for confirmations.
- Confirmations should count only if they are the result of risky predictions; that is to say, if, unenlightened by the theory in question, we should have expected an event which was incompatible with the theory — an event which would have refuted the theory.
- Every "good" scientific theory is a prohibition: it forbids certain things to happen. The more a theory forbids, the better it is.
- A theory which is not refutable by any conceivable event is non-scientific. Irrefutability is not a virtue of a theory (as people often think) but a vice.
- Every genuine test of a theory is an attempt to falsify it, or to refute it. Testability is falsifiability; but there are degrees of testability: some theories are more testable, more exposed to refutation, than others; they take, as it were, greater risks.
- Confirming evidence should not count except when it is the result of a genuine test of the theory; and this means that it can be presented as a serious but unsuccessful attempt to falsify the theory. (I now speak in such cases of "corroborating evidence.")
- Some genuinely testable theories, when found to be false, are still upheld by their admirers — for example by introducing ad hoc some auxiliary assumption, or by reinterpreting the theory ad hoc in such a way that it escapes refutation. Such a procedure is always possible, but it rescues the theory from refutation only at the price of destroying, or at least lowering, its scientific status. (I later described such a rescuing operation as a "conventionalist twist" or a "conventionalist stratagem.")
One can sum up all this by saying that the criterion of the scientific status of a theory is its falsifiability, or refutability, or testability. . . . "
"Karl Popper famously said, "A theory that explains everything explains nothing." So what do you make of the theory that catastrophic manmade CO2-driven "climate change" can account for harsher winters and lighter winters, more snow and less snow, droughts and floods, more hurricanes and less hurricanes, more rain and less rain, more malaria and less malaria, saltier seas and less salty seas, Antarctica ice melting and Antarctic ice gaining and dozens of other contradictions? Popper gave a name to "theories" like this: pseudoscience."
Climate Change is Unfalsifiable Woo-Woo Pseudoscience
Climate Change is Unfalsifiable Woo-Woo Pseudoscience | The Corbett Report
You really are too stupid to be one person. Everything that you've put in you post, whether the posts are true or not, are climate related.
Once again, you seem to lack the intellectual capacity to understand the climate change is destroying the world. Yes, hotter weather causes more spread of hot weather diseases. And yes, it will is the greatest catastrophe the world has seen.
Yes climate change results in droughts, crop failures and famines.
Yes, climate change results in some areas getting colder, and some hotter, and some drier and some wetter.
How stupid are YOU that you can't comprehend these facts???
Read MisterBeale's post #25.Mother nature is a bitch. Liberal policies kill.
Mother nature only allows it to rain 4-6 days/year on Maui. Having enough fresh water for the inhabitants has always been a battle.
I'm surprised that they don't have large, high capacity pumps, in the ocean for fire fighting.
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You really are too stupid to be one person. Everything that you've put in you post, whether the posts are true or not, are climate related.
Once again, you seem to lack the intellectual capacity to understand the climate change is destroying the world. Yes, hotter weather causes more spread of hot weather diseases. And yes, it will is the greatest catastrophe the world has seen.
Yes climate change results in droughts, crop failures and famines.
Yes, climate change results in some areas getting colder, and some hotter, and some drier and some wetter.
How stupid are YOU that you can't comprehend these facts???
Rube.
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Irrelevant during a massive fire. Water can be shipped in after the fire, lives can't.Read MisterBeale's post #25.
Mother nature only allows it to rain 4-6 days/year on Maui. Having enough fresh water for the inhabitants has always been a battle.
I added a line to my post, wondering why they can't pump water from the ocean for fire fighting.Irrelevant during a massive fire. Water can be shipped in after the fire, lives can't.
Billiejeens
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Poke fun at the suffering. Y'all are good at that.
We are?
It quacks like a duck.We are?
Billiejeens
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Where is the poking fun?
Was it poking fun when the left went after Flynt, MI republicans for their role in it. Why the fuck would you cover for a clear monumental fuckup that was 100 times worse than Flynt?
Team over - everything else.
marvin martian
Diamond Member
Leftism on full display. Hawaiians get everything they deserve for voting Democrat on everything.
Only God knows how many were burned alive because of his wokeness.
During the inferno that devastated part of the island of Maui, wiping entire towns off the map and possibly killing more than a thousand people (once a full assessment can be made), people on Maui begged state officials to allow West Maui stream water to be diverted to fill up reservoirs for firefighting. That request went to M. Kaleo Manuel, Deputy Director of Hawaii's Commission on Water Resource Management, and he delayed approval of that water for five hours - five hours in which the once-contained fire exploded. By the time the approval was received, workers were unable to reach the siphon release so that the water could be diverted. Now we're learning that Manuel, an Obama Foundation Leader for the Asia Pacific Region, is a climate change activist and DEI devotee who's said, "Like, we can share [water], but it requires true conversations about equity."
More human sacrifices to the death cult of leftism.
Yeah but fire standards should be universal in the state of Hawaii.I don't think Maui has an active volcano, it's one of the older islands.
Correction, it's considered active, but hasn't erupted in centuries.
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Yeah but fire standards should be universal in the state of Hawaii.
A forest fire and a lava flow are two different things, despite both being hot and dangerous.
Especially in Hawaii where the flows are usually pretty predictable once outside the lava fields.
ColonelAngus
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The dude who should have sounded the alarm has resigned.
www.nytimes.com
MSN
www.msn.com
Maui’s Emergency Management Chief Resigns After Questions About Fire Response
The chief, Herman Andaya, cited his health in stepping down. His agency’s decision not to sound emergency sirens as wildfires neared Lahaina had drawn scrutiny.
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Rube.
I have never, in all my time discussing with folks that believe in AGW, how this hypothesis, which demonizes the very breath of humanity, would be falsified.
They can't think of a way it could be.
At this point? It is as much an act of faith, as any of the world's major religions.
Most of them know who their patron saint, Maurice Strong is.
When backed into a corner, yes, they finally admit, this is all about politics, and complete control of all of humanity.
The Anthropocene
And, still, you have no evidence. Incorrect. I already shared it with you. They don't allow dissenting opinions. That's not science. That's politics.
www.usmessageboard.com
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I have never, in all my time discussing with folks that believe in AGW, how this hypothesis, which demonizes the very breath of humanity, would be falsified.
They can't think of a way it could be.
At this point? It is as much an act of faith, as any of the world's major religions.
Most of them know who their patron saint, Maurice Strong is.
When backed into a corner, yes, they finally admit, this is all about politics, and complete control of all of humanity.
The Anthropocene
And, still, you have no evidence. Incorrect. I already shared it with you. They don't allow dissenting opinions. That's not science. That's politics.
You can tell because their only solution is more government and lower standards of living.
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Why haven't YOU addressed my post which pointed out the the first world off-shored their manufacturing to Asia to skirt first world pollution intiatives, and that Americans actively fought against these countries passing ANY environment regulations, which would increase their costs????
The first world has been offloading their pollution and their garbage to desperate third world countries for generations, and now you're blaming these people for polluting.
Why don't you try facts, Asshole:
China Reduced Air Pollution in 7 Years as Much as US Did in Three Decades
China has reduced air pollution nearly as much in seven years as the US did in three decades, helping to bring down average global smog levels in the process.www.bloomberg.com
The world is scrambling now that China is refusing to be a trash dumping ground
China's move to ban 24 types of imported waste, announced last July and implemented in January, was hailed by environmentalists as a big win for global green efforts.www.cnbc.com
China puts out more CO2 than all developed nations combined, and no shock you’re defending the ChiComs.
BTW - under Trump the US lowered its CO2 and was the ONLY nation to meet the Paris Accord targets.
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