Official Thread - The Mueller Report is Announced... USE THIS thread til at least end of Saturday.

[daveman]

Clinton was impeached because of that.

actually for lying under oath about it.

Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction, both federal felonies, committed while in office.
The Democrats never once denied the charges, only that they do not rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
Apparently, they have since changes their minds.

We all saw the evidence.

So why cabn't we see the Mueller Report & that evidence?

You saw what you were told you saw. You were fed a carefully-crafted vision by people with a vested interest in manipulating you.

And you performed exactly as ordered.

Do do know the the Bill Clinton impeachment is public record, right?

Yes. You do know the Mueller Report operates under a different set of laws, right?

Apparently not.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yes. You do know the Mueller Report operates under a different set of laws, right?
Apparently not.

No.
They have no idea whatsoever Starr was appointed under a different law that Mueller.
They also have no idea that Congress, in specifying that the AG present his summary of an IC report to Congress; voluntarily gave up its right to access the report itself.

 

[georgephillip]

"Not once": Former AG Eric Holder tells MSNBC that during his six years in office, he never received anything from a prosecutor without a charging recommendation.

Holder's one of those more loyal to Obama than to America or the law.

Holder's one of those more loyal to Obama than to America or the law.

How does Holder's integrity compare with Bill Barr's?

Cover-up Attorney General Bill Barr strikes again

"Back in 1992, the last time Bill Barr was U.S. attorney general, iconic New York Times writer William Safire referred to him as 'Coverup-General Barr' because of his role in burying evidence of then-President George H.W. Bush’s involvement in 'Iraqgate' and 'Iron-Contra.'

"General Barr has struck again — this time, in similar fashion, burying Mueller’s report and cherry-picking fragments of sentences from it to justify Trump’s behavior.

"In his letter, he notes that Robert Mueller 'leaves it to the attorney general to decide whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime.'"

If you think there's any logical reason to accept a venal Republican hack's opinion regarding Trump's obvious collusion with Russians with links to the Kremlin during his 2016 campaign, a majority of US voters will prove you wrong in November, 2020.

An Analysis of Trump Supporters Has Identified 5 Key Traits

 

[RealDave]

So if Jussie Smollett is facing years in prison for falsely accusing someone of a crime... What is the penalty for falsely accusing a President of treason?

There is a difference between accusing someone because you have reason to believe that a crime was committed- and making shit up and paying people to stage a crime. Give me a fucking break with your false equivalency logical fallacy

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

 

[iceberg]

So if Jussie Smollett is facing years in prison for falsely accusing someone of a crime... What is the penalty for falsely accusing a President of treason?

There is a difference between accusing someone because you have reason to believe that a crime was committed- and making shit up and paying people to stage a crime. Give me a fucking break with your false equivalency logical fallacy

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

this is cute. never heard you bitch at mueller til he said something you didn't like. suddenly you adopted all the traits you're bitching at. no one is surprised; at all.

 

[RealDave]

"Not once": Former AG Eric Holder tells MSNBC that during his six years in office, he never received anything from a prosecutor without a charging recommendation.

Holder's one of those more loyal to Obama than to America or the law.

Bulldshit. How about an example?

 

[RealDave]

There is a difference between accusing someone because you have reason to believe that a crime was committed- and making shit up and paying people to stage a crime. Give me a fucking break with your false equivalency logical fallacy

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

this is cute. never heard you bitch at mueller til he said something you didn't like. suddenly you adopted all the traits you're bitching at. no one is surprised; at all.

I never mentioned Mueller. Nice try.

 

[RealDave]

actually for lying under oath about it.

Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction, both federal felonies, committed while in office.
The Democrats never once denied the charges, only that they do not rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
Apparently, they have since changes their minds.

We all saw the evidence.

So why cabn't we see the Mueller Report & that evidence?

You saw what you were told you saw. You were fed a carefully-crafted vision by people with a vested interest in manipulating you.

And you performed exactly as ordered.

Do do know the the Bill Clinton impeachment is public record, right?

Yes. You do know the Mueller Report operates under a different set of laws, right?

Apparently not.

Irrelevant to my post. Learn to read.

 

[westwall]

So if Jussie Smollett is facing years in prison for falsely accusing someone of a crime... What is the penalty for falsely accusing a President of treason?

There is a difference between accusing someone because you have reason to believe that a crime was committed- and making shit up and paying people to stage a crime. Give me a fucking break with your false equivalency logical fallacy

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

Oh?

Show us three things that are factual

 

[iceberg]

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

this is cute. never heard you bitch at mueller til he said something you didn't like. suddenly you adopted all the traits you're bitching at. no one is surprised; at all.

I never mentioned Mueller. Nice try.

great. my bad.

so who are you referring to then? if not mueller?

 

[RealDave]

There is a difference between accusing someone because you have reason to believe that a crime was committed- and making shit up and paying people to stage a crime. Give me a fucking break with your false equivalency logical fallacy

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

Oh?

Show us three things that are factual

You claim it was all false. I made no claim other than it was not proven false.

 

[lantern2814]

You mean how the shrilary and the DNC paid Steele to concoct a false dossier?

Are you truly this blind?

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

Oh?

Show us three things that are factual

You claim it was all false. I made no claim other than it was not proven false.

Well YOU claim it's true, so show the proof or STFU. We don't have to prove it's false. You make the charge, the burden of proof is on you. By the way, most of that dossier has been debunked for months now. Do try to keep up. Also try reading entire posts before showing your stupidity. No the entire Mueller report is not grand jury. Nobody claimed that. But there is a LOT of information that can NOT be released by law. But that doesn't matter to Trump haters who now are turning on their "savior" Mueller.

 

[Redfish]

So if Jussie Smollett is facing years in prison for falsely accusing someone of a crime... What is the penalty for falsely accusing a President of treason?

About the same for pussy grabbing

Clinton was impeached because of that.

actually for lying under oath about it.

Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction, both federal felonies, committed while in office.
The Democrats never once denied the charges, only that they do not rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
Apparently, they have since changes their minds.

We all saw the evidence.

So why cabn't we see the Mueller Report & that evidence?

We will see it, once the classified portions are removed. They cannot allow classified data to be distributed to the general public.

 

[jc456]

Why is it that you people can never defend T-Rump without deflecting the discussion to something about Clinton or Obama?

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

Oh?

Show us three things that are factual

You claim it was all false. I made no claim other than it was not proven false.

Well YOU claim it's true, so show the proof or STFU. We don't have to prove it's false. You make the charge, the burden of proof is on you. By the way, most of that dossier has been debunked for months now. Do try to keep up. Also try reading entire posts before showing your stupidity. No the entire Mueller report is not grand jury. Nobody claimed that. But there is a LOT of information that can NOT be released by law. But that doesn't matter to Trump haters who now are turning on their "savior" Mueller.

well actually any individuals name that wasn't indicted can't be released. It's for their safety from kookball leftists.

 

[hadit]

Why is it you are so partisan that you ignore illegal activities from your side while demanding the death penalty for those on the other side?

Hypocrisy is not a virtue, dude.

Like you did with Clinton & Obama? If Obama had his DOJ appoint a Democrat special prosecutor who turned in their report & Obama's DOJ said Hillary did no wrong, you would be satisfied. Good to know. Your own sarty investigated & found no wrong & you still run in circles screaming "Lock her up"
You lie about a dossier. It had not be shown to be false at all. Hillary did not pay Russians for it. She paid a British firm you sent a former British agent to Russia to investigate. When will you peiople EVER tell the truth

Oh?

Show us three things that are factual

You claim it was all false. I made no claim other than it was not proven false.

Well YOU claim it's true, so show the proof or STFU. We don't have to prove it's false. You make the charge, the burden of proof is on you. By the way, most of that dossier has been debunked for months now. Do try to keep up. Also try reading entire posts before showing your stupidity. No the entire Mueller report is not grand jury. Nobody claimed that. But there is a LOT of information that can NOT be released by law. But that doesn't matter to Trump haters who now are turning on their "savior" Mueller.

well actually any individuals name that wasn't indicted can't be released. It's for their safety from kookball leftists.

The jackals will already be ripping it to shreds, desperate to find something they can make derogatory. Any innocent people would be instantly savaged.

 

[P@triot]

It is fascinating, the alternate reality that the Trumptards here have constructed. They were always a little crazy, but now they've gone totally off-the-rails.

Mueller says "“While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime...”

Yeah...um...that is literally the definition of “exonerated”.

You guys claim he committed a crime and was thus subject to “impeachment”. The report concluded that he did not commit a crime.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It is fascinating, the alternate reality that the Trumptards here have constructed. They were always a little crazy, but now they've gone totally off-the-rails.

Mueller says "“While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime...”

Yeah...um...that is literally the definition of “exonerated”.

You guys claim he committed a crime and was thus subject to “impeachment”. The report concluded that he did not commit a crime.

No, it says they found no credible evidence that he colluded with the Russians. And nothing else. Everything else is on the table. And that was the original intent of the Mueller investigation. Everything else was like cherries on the top of the cake with sprinkles. Don't read into it something that isn't there at this time. Since the report has not been released, the only thing we know is that Trump was found not to have colluded with the Russians. BTW, even if he did, there is nothing in the laws about colluding being illegal. I wonder which side of Lawyers came up with that jewel.

I don't look for Trump to be brought up on any charges until AFTER he leaves office. And there is quite a list of prosecutors standing in line for that. He's used his Presidency to stymie those state and federal courts since they can't prosecute a sitting president. And until they can, his Kids and others will not be prosecuted either since they need to pop him first. And much of that will be in the Mueller report but cannot be released due to it being under investigation by the States and other Federal Agencies.

So, does the Mueller report say he's innocent? Not by a long shot. If it did, it would be the biggest obstruction of Justice that was ever done and would make Putin green with envy. But it just has to wait until after Trump leaves office.

 

[jc456]

It is fascinating, the alternate reality that the Trumptards here have constructed. They were always a little crazy, but now they've gone totally off-the-rails.

Mueller says "“While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime...”

Yeah...um...that is literally the definition of “exonerated”.

You guys claim he committed a crime and was thus subject to “impeachment”. The report concluded that he did not commit a crime.

No, it says they found no credible evidence that he colluded with the Russians. And nothing else. Everything else is on the table. And that was the original intent of the Mueller investigation. Everything else was like cherries on the top of the cake with sprinkles. Don't read into it something that isn't there at this time. Since the report has not been released, the only thing we know is that Trump was found not to have colluded with the Russians. BTW, even if he did, there is nothing in the laws about colluding being illegal. I wonder which side of Lawyers came up with that jewel.

I don't look for Trump to be brought up on any charges until AFTER he leaves office. And there is quite a list of prosecutors standing in line for that. He's used his Presidency to stymie those state and federal courts since they can't prosecute a sitting president. And until they can, his Kids and others will not be prosecuted either since they need to pop him first. And much of that will be in the Mueller report but cannot be released due to it being under investigation by the States and other Federal Agencies.

So, does the Mueller report say he's innocent? Not by a long shot. If it did, it would be the biggest obstruction of Justice that was ever done and would make Putin green with envy. But it just has to wait until after Trump leaves office.

No sealed indictment! Period, end of discussion =exonerated.

by the way, explain what no credible evidence means to you?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It is fascinating, the alternate reality that the Trumptards here have constructed. They were always a little crazy, but now they've gone totally off-the-rails.

Mueller says "“While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime...”

Yeah...um...that is literally the definition of “exonerated”.

You guys claim he committed a crime and was thus subject to “impeachment”. The report concluded that he did not commit a crime.

No, it says they found no credible evidence that he colluded with the Russians. And nothing else. Everything else is on the table. And that was the original intent of the Mueller investigation. Everything else was like cherries on the top of the cake with sprinkles. Don't read into it something that isn't there at this time. Since the report has not been released, the only thing we know is that Trump was found not to have colluded with the Russians. BTW, even if he did, there is nothing in the laws about colluding being illegal. I wonder which side of Lawyers came up with that jewel.

I don't look for Trump to be brought up on any charges until AFTER he leaves office. And there is quite a list of prosecutors standing in line for that. He's used his Presidency to stymie those state and federal courts since they can't prosecute a sitting president. And until they can, his Kids and others will not be prosecuted either since they need to pop him first. And much of that will be in the Mueller report but cannot be released due to it being under investigation by the States and other Federal Agencies.

So, does the Mueller report say he's innocent? Not by a long shot. If it did, it would be the biggest obstruction of Justice that was ever done and would make Putin green with envy. But it just has to wait until after Trump leaves office.

No sealed indictment! Period, end of discussion =exonerated.

by the way, explain what no credible evidence means to you?

The Justice Department cannot indict a sitting president. What part of that are you having trouble with. They can only turn the information over to the House and let them do the indictment for Impeachment. The President cannot be removed from office by the court system, period. Can you imagine having business where the people directly under the CEO has the power to fire the CEO just because they don't like him?

 

[jc456]

It is fascinating, the alternate reality that the Trumptards here have constructed. They were always a little crazy, but now they've gone totally off-the-rails.

Mueller says "“While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime...”

Yeah...um...that is literally the definition of “exonerated”.

You guys claim he committed a crime and was thus subject to “impeachment”. The report concluded that he did not commit a crime.

No, it says they found no credible evidence that he colluded with the Russians. And nothing else. Everything else is on the table. And that was the original intent of the Mueller investigation. Everything else was like cherries on the top of the cake with sprinkles. Don't read into it something that isn't there at this time. Since the report has not been released, the only thing we know is that Trump was found not to have colluded with the Russians. BTW, even if he did, there is nothing in the laws about colluding being illegal. I wonder which side of Lawyers came up with that jewel.

I don't look for Trump to be brought up on any charges until AFTER he leaves office. And there is quite a list of prosecutors standing in line for that. He's used his Presidency to stymie those state and federal courts since they can't prosecute a sitting president. And until they can, his Kids and others will not be prosecuted either since they need to pop him first. And much of that will be in the Mueller report but cannot be released due to it being under investigation by the States and other Federal Agencies.

So, does the Mueller report say he's innocent? Not by a long shot. If it did, it would be the biggest obstruction of Justice that was ever done and would make Putin green with envy. But it just has to wait until after Trump leaves office.

No sealed indictment! Period, end of discussion =exonerated.

by the way, explain what no credible evidence means to you?

The Justice Department cannot indict a sitting president. What part of that are you having trouble with. They can only turn the information over to the House and let them do the indictment for Impeachment. The President cannot be removed from office by the court system, period. Can you imagine having business where the people directly under the CEO has the power to fire the CEO just because they don't like him?

That’s why they seal them you stupid fk! Again, no sealed indictment! Period punk, it’s fking over