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"One Step Away From Collapse": Doctors In Northern Italy Overwhelmed With Coronavirus Patients

Hospitals in northern Italy are on the brink of collapse as doctors struggle with an explosion of coronavirus cases which have overwhelmed the system, according to VICE.

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Italy has the second-highest number of confirmed cases outside of China, topping 10,000 this week with 631 deaths - roughly 15% of the worldwide toll.

In just three weeks since aggressively spreading throughout the region, Italian intensive care units (ICUs) have been hit by a shortage of beds, staff, and ventiliators - which will worsen the chances of survival for those in critical condition.

"Health care facilities have reached critical levels in Lombardy due the high number of hospitalizations and cases requiring intensive care," said Elisabetta Groppelli, virologist and lecturer in public health at St. George's, University of London.

Groppelli told VICE News that the system in Lombardy had gotten by so far by transferring patients to other regions with capacity. For that to continue to work, authorities would have to ensure that their containment measures worked to stop the rise in new infections elsewhere around the country.

It’s imperative for Italy to slow down transmission, and this requires strict application by citizens and business of the draconian measures identified by the government,” she said. -VICE

"By now, we’re forced to provide intensive care treatment in the corridor, in the operating rooms, in the recovery rooms," said Antonio Pesenti, coordinator of the region's intensive care crisis unit in a statement to Italy's Corriere Della Serra newspaper, adding that the situation would become "catastrophic" if people did not self-quarantine.

"We gutted entire hospital wards to make room for the seriously ill. One of the best healthcare systems in the world, the Lombard one, is one step away from collapse."​

Wow, why werent the Italians ready for this little bitty flu?

Because it is far worse than the flu, dudes.
Last night, Governor Inslee read an email from a doctor in Italy, where the virus has overwhelmed the medical systems, warning of what could happen if we don’t take drastic action.

“Stop saying it’s just flu or severe flu. Please come and see our intensive care units in northern Italy. People can’t breathe and we don’t have anywhere to put them.”
 
"One Step Away From Collapse": Doctors In Northern Italy Overwhelmed With Coronavirus Patients

Hospitals in northern Italy are on the brink of collapse as doctors struggle with an explosion of coronavirus cases which have overwhelmed the system, according to VICE.

stretcher.jpg


Italy has the second-highest number of confirmed cases outside of China, topping 10,000 this week with 631 deaths - roughly 15% of the worldwide toll.

In just three weeks since aggressively spreading throughout the region, Italian intensive care units (ICUs) have been hit by a shortage of beds, staff, and ventiliators - which will worsen the chances of survival for those in critical condition.

"Health care facilities have reached critical levels in Lombardy due the high number of hospitalizations and cases requiring intensive care," said Elisabetta Groppelli, virologist and lecturer in public health at St. George's, University of London.

Groppelli told VICE News that the system in Lombardy had gotten by so far by transferring patients to other regions with capacity. For that to continue to work, authorities would have to ensure that their containment measures worked to stop the rise in new infections elsewhere around the country.

It’s imperative for Italy to slow down transmission, and this requires strict application by citizens and business of the draconian measures identified by the government,” she said. -VICE

"By now, we’re forced to provide intensive care treatment in the corridor, in the operating rooms, in the recovery rooms," said Antonio Pesenti, coordinator of the region's intensive care crisis unit in a statement to Italy's Corriere Della Serra newspaper, adding that the situation would become "catastrophic" if people did not self-quarantine.

"We gutted entire hospital wards to make room for the seriously ill. One of the best healthcare systems in the world, the Lombard one, is one step away from collapse."​

Wow, why werent the Italians ready for this little bitty flu?

Because it is far worse than the flu, dudes.
Last night, Governor Inslee read an email from a doctor in Italy, where the virus has overwhelmed the medical systems, warning of what could happen if we don’t take drastic action.

“Stop saying it’s just flu or severe flu. Please come and see our intensive care units in northern Italy. People can’t breathe and we don’t have anywhere to put them.”

If one can't breathe, then they can put them in the morgue. Bad joke.

Italy and the US aren't in the same situation. I just looked at the recovery numbers to confirmed infection numbers and Italy has a very low recovery number to their very high confirmed infection numbers. It goes to show they were not prepared for mitigation when there was no containment. OTOH China has had radical containment and now mitigation. Their recovery numbers are much higher and better. The US numbers still look like Italy's in terms of recovery and confirmed infection numbers. The huge difference is they have done containment and have now moved to the mitigation stage and have medical personnel in place. As long as there isn't an nationwide outbreak, then the medical staff will be able to control the coronavirus until recovery number get up to China levels. We are seeing some radical mitigation occurring now. Then we'll be able to get back to more normal lives where we can go out again.
 
Last night, Governor Inslee read an email from a doctor in Italy, where the virus has overwhelmed the medical systems, warning of what could happen if we don’t take drastic action.

“Stop saying it’s just flu or severe flu. Please come and see our intensive care units in northern Italy. People can’t breathe and we don’t have anywhere to put them.”

Was it this one?

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"One Step Away From Collapse": Doctors In Northern Italy Overwhelmed With Coronavirus Patients

Hospitals in northern Italy are on the brink of collapse as doctors struggle with an explosion of coronavirus cases which have overwhelmed the system, according to VICE.

stretcher.jpg


Italy has the second-highest number of confirmed cases outside of China, topping 10,000 this week with 631 deaths - roughly 15% of the worldwide toll.

In just three weeks since aggressively spreading throughout the region, Italian intensive care units (ICUs) have been hit by a shortage of beds, staff, and ventiliators - which will worsen the chances of survival for those in critical condition.

"Health care facilities have reached critical levels in Lombardy due the high number of hospitalizations and cases requiring intensive care," said Elisabetta Groppelli, virologist and lecturer in public health at St. George's, University of London.

Groppelli told VICE News that the system in Lombardy had gotten by so far by transferring patients to other regions with capacity. For that to continue to work, authorities would have to ensure that their containment measures worked to stop the rise in new infections elsewhere around the country.

It’s imperative for Italy to slow down transmission, and this requires strict application by citizens and business of the draconian measures identified by the government,” she said. -VICE

"By now, we’re forced to provide intensive care treatment in the corridor, in the operating rooms, in the recovery rooms," said Antonio Pesenti, coordinator of the region's intensive care crisis unit in a statement to Italy's Corriere Della Serra newspaper, adding that the situation would become "catastrophic" if people did not self-quarantine.

"We gutted entire hospital wards to make room for the seriously ill. One of the best healthcare systems in the world, the Lombard one, is one step away from collapse."​

Wow, why werent the Italians ready for this little bitty flu?

Because it is far worse than the flu, dudes.
Last night, Governor Inslee read an email from a doctor in Italy, where the virus has overwhelmed the medical systems, warning of what could happen if we don’t take drastic action.

“Stop saying it’s just flu or severe flu. Please come and see our intensive care units in northern Italy. People can’t breathe and we don’t have anywhere to put them.”
Italy has the second high number of infections and deaths after China. Obviously there is a strange dynamic going on there.
 
"One Step Away From Collapse": Doctors In Northern Italy Overwhelmed With Coronavirus Patients

Hospitals in northern Italy are on the brink of collapse as doctors struggle with an explosion of coronavirus cases which have overwhelmed the system, according to VICE.

stretcher.jpg


Italy has the second-highest number of confirmed cases outside of China, topping 10,000 this week with 631 deaths - roughly 15% of the worldwide toll.

In just three weeks since aggressively spreading throughout the region, Italian intensive care units (ICUs) have been hit by a shortage of beds, staff, and ventiliators - which will worsen the chances of survival for those in critical condition.

"Health care facilities have reached critical levels in Lombardy due the high number of hospitalizations and cases requiring intensive care," said Elisabetta Groppelli, virologist and lecturer in public health at St. George's, University of London.

Groppelli told VICE News that the system in Lombardy had gotten by so far by transferring patients to other regions with capacity. For that to continue to work, authorities would have to ensure that their containment measures worked to stop the rise in new infections elsewhere around the country.

It’s imperative for Italy to slow down transmission, and this requires strict application by citizens and business of the draconian measures identified by the government,” she said. -VICE

"By now, we’re forced to provide intensive care treatment in the corridor, in the operating rooms, in the recovery rooms," said Antonio Pesenti, coordinator of the region's intensive care crisis unit in a statement to Italy's Corriere Della Serra newspaper, adding that the situation would become "catastrophic" if people did not self-quarantine.

"We gutted entire hospital wards to make room for the seriously ill. One of the best healthcare systems in the world, the Lombard one, is one step away from collapse."​

Wow, why werent the Italians ready for this little bitty flu?

Because it is far worse than the flu, dudes.
Last night, Governor Inslee read an email from a doctor in Italy, where the virus has overwhelmed the medical systems, warning of what could happen if we don’t take drastic action.

“Stop saying it’s just flu or severe flu. Please come and see our intensive care units in northern Italy. People can’t breathe and we don’t have anywhere to put them.”

If one can't breathe, then they can put them in the morgue. Bad joke.

Italy and the US aren't in the same situation. I just looked at the recovery numbers to confirmed infection numbers and Italy has a very low recovery number to their very high confirmed infection numbers. It goes to show they were not prepared for mitigation when there was no containment. OTOH China has had radical containment and now mitigation. Their recovery numbers are much higher and better. The US numbers still look like Italy's in terms of recovery and confirmed infection numbers. The huge difference is they have done containment and have now moved to the mitigation stage and have medical personnel in place. As long as there isn't an nationwide outbreak, then the medical staff will be able to control the coronavirus until recovery number get up to China levels. We are seeing some radical mitigation occurring now. Then we'll be able to get back to more normal lives where we can go out again.
I'm a bit dubious but I sure hope that happens soon. We have a trip planned to Europe this summer.
 
I'm a bit dubious but I sure hope that happens soon. We have a trip planned to Europe this summer.
My wife and I are cancelling our Caribean cruise for April.

It was supposed to be a celebration of her retirement. :(
 
Tom Hanks and wife both tested positive.
NBA Cancels Season
Final Four to be Played w/o Fans
World Health Organization says ten times more deadly than the common flu
US Travel with Europe Suspended
Number of Cases increase by ten times in a week
Virus now in all but 5 states
A million students in the US now out of school due to the virus

Is it still a hoax?
Has somebody claimed the virus is a hoax? I'd love to see where somebody has said this, with quote marks around the exact wording.
 
Yet another Chinese virus. Fuckers harvest bird nest from caves so they can eat them. Caves...bats...birds...bird nest sold in open air markets next to dead chickens and raw pork...if that's not a disease incubator I don't know what is.
They harvest them all over Asia. Bird shit and bat shit mixed together can't be healthy.
 
"One Step Away From Collapse": Doctors In Northern Italy Overwhelmed With Coronavirus Patients

Hospitals in northern Italy are on the brink of collapse as doctors struggle with an explosion of coronavirus cases which have overwhelmed the system, according to VICE.

stretcher.jpg


Italy has the second-highest number of confirmed cases outside of China, topping 10,000 this week with 631 deaths - roughly 15% of the worldwide toll.

In just three weeks since aggressively spreading throughout the region, Italian intensive care units (ICUs) have been hit by a shortage of beds, staff, and ventiliators - which will worsen the chances of survival for those in critical condition.

"Health care facilities have reached critical levels in Lombardy due the high number of hospitalizations and cases requiring intensive care," said Elisabetta Groppelli, virologist and lecturer in public health at St. George's, University of London.

Groppelli told VICE News that the system in Lombardy had gotten by so far by transferring patients to other regions with capacity. For that to continue to work, authorities would have to ensure that their containment measures worked to stop the rise in new infections elsewhere around the country.

It’s imperative for Italy to slow down transmission, and this requires strict application by citizens and business of the draconian measures identified by the government,” she said. -VICE

"By now, we’re forced to provide intensive care treatment in the corridor, in the operating rooms, in the recovery rooms," said Antonio Pesenti, coordinator of the region's intensive care crisis unit in a statement to Italy's Corriere Della Serra newspaper, adding that the situation would become "catastrophic" if people did not self-quarantine.

"We gutted entire hospital wards to make room for the seriously ill. One of the best healthcare systems in the world, the Lombard one, is one step away from collapse."​

Wow, why werent the Italians ready for this little bitty flu?

Because it is far worse than the flu, dudes.
Last night, Governor Inslee read an email from a doctor in Italy, where the virus has overwhelmed the medical systems, warning of what could happen if we don’t take drastic action.

“Stop saying it’s just flu or severe flu. Please come and see our intensive care units in northern Italy. People can’t breathe and we don’t have anywhere to put them.”

If one can't breathe, then they can put them in the morgue. Bad joke.

Italy and the US aren't in the same situation. I just looked at the recovery numbers to confirmed infection numbers and Italy has a very low recovery number to their very high confirmed infection numbers. It goes to show they were not prepared for mitigation when there was no containment. OTOH China has had radical containment and now mitigation. Their recovery numbers are much higher and better. The US numbers still look like Italy's in terms of recovery and confirmed infection numbers. The huge difference is they have done containment and have now moved to the mitigation stage and have medical personnel in place. As long as there isn't an nationwide outbreak, then the medical staff will be able to control the coronavirus until recovery number get up to China levels. We are seeing some radical mitigation occurring now. Then we'll be able to get back to more normal lives where we can go out again.
I'm a bit dubious but I sure hope that happens soon. We have a trip planned to Europe this summer.

I would stick to the latest news from a source you can trust. The news I got was from the China CDC which stated their dead were mostly 70+ which is older than what was reported in the US and people age 50 - 70 with underlying medical conditions. This is out of 44,000 confirmed cases. If you look at the John Hopkins website, their coronavirus map show confirmed infected, deaths, and recovery. I looked at the recovery numbers instead of the death numbers unless the death numbers are higher than normal, i.e. 0.1%. A high recovery number means things will be getting back to normal sooner than later. One has to just let the flu take its course. It means they have medical staff in place to treat outbreaks or send them to emergency or hospitalization if more critical. They also could self quarantine people or send them to quarantine centers.

Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
 
Italy has the second high number of infections and deaths after China. Obviously there is a strange dynamic going on there.
On a per capita basis, Italy is way worse than China though.

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The one thing I have learned about an epidemic is that the spread of the disease is determined by random factors. For example one person with the virus might happen to walk down a crowded street and infect dozens of people who might in turn infect dozens more. Or that person might turn down a deserted street and infect no one.

In Washington State, someone transmitted the virus to a patient at one nursing which spread to other patients and now accounts for 61% of the deaths and 28% of all reported cases in the state.
 
Tom Hanks and wife both tested positive.
NBA Cancels Season
Final Four to be Played w/o Fans
World Health Organization says ten times more deadly than the common flu
US Travel with Europe Suspended
Number of Cases increase by ten times in a week
Virus now in all but 5 states
A million students in the US now out of school due to the virus

Is it still a hoax?
Has somebody claimed the virus is a hoax? I'd love to see where somebody has said this, with quote marks around the exact wording.

I said it was a hoax.
 

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