Offical Impeachment Thread

[Faun]

"Essentially" as in the same thing with the exception that it's outside the Judiciary. Indictment is a formal criminal charge where due process grants a criminal trial; while impeachment is a formal procedural charge where due process grants a procedural trial.

So it's the same thing, only not.

There is no due process in Schiff's kangaroo court.

There's been no trial yet, lying fucking moron. What part of that escapes your lying fucking moronicship?

You already admitted it's not the same thing. The fact that Trump isn't getting due process couldn't be more obvious.

That's why I said, "essentially," ya lying fucking moron.

The only difference is one is regarding legal matters while the other is political matters.

But since you want to harp on that difference, show where the Constitution grants due process to non-legal matters....

In other words, not the same thing. On the one hand, you want us to believe that Schiff's kangaroo court is some kind of legal process observing due process, and on the other you want to take all the rules of due process and throw them out the window. You can't have it both ways, turd.

You failed to address my question.... where does the Constitution afford due process on non-legal matters?

 

[bripat9643]

So it's the same thing, only not.

There is no due process in Schiff's kangaroo court.

There's been no trial yet, lying fucking moron. What part of that escapes your lying fucking moronicship?

You already admitted it's not the same thing. The fact that Trump isn't getting due process couldn't be more obvious.

That's why I said, "essentially," ya lying fucking moron.

The only difference is one is regarding legal matters while the other is political matters.

But since you want to harp on that difference, show where the Constitution grants due process to non-legal matters....

In other words, not the same thing. On the one hand, you want us to believe that Schiff's kangaroo court is some kind of legal process observing due process, and on the other you want to take all the rules of due process and throw them out the window. You can't have it both ways, turd.

You failed to address my question.... where does the Constitution afford due process on non-legal matters?

I'm done riding on this wheel of circular logic. The Constitution doesn't prevent Piece of Schiff from conducting his kangaroo court. That doesn't mean it's not a kangaroo court.

 

[Faun]

Nah, you're just a lying fucking moron. Want proof of that? You can't prove Hunter Biden was under investigation when Shokin was pushed into resigning. And you can't prove it because he wasn't.

I don't believe anyone made that claim, moron.

LOLOL

Lying fucking moron, Fruitcake posted it...

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And YOU marked it a 'winner'.

You literally hit 'winner' on a post you just doubted exists. That's how big of a lying fucking moron you are.

I can't even follow this argument any more. What "lie" am I posting?

LOLOL

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

I asked a question. How can that be a lie?

You are such a fucking moron.

Lying fucking moron, you literally hit 'winner' on a post you doubted existed.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, it names who is authorized to make requests that Ukraine must comply with. Ukraine is free to ignore any other request, but nothing in the treaty makes other requests illegal.

I just made it clear that you're the lying moron. You tried to put one over on forum members by omitting the crucial section of the document that defines what "authorized" means.

Lying fucking moron, the treaty authorizes no one else but the section I mentioned to make the request.

It also requires the Attorney General to name the authority of an ongoing investigation, proceeding or prosecution for which the other country's assistance is requested. There was no such investigation, proceeding or prosecution.

ROFL! I just explained to you the meaning of the term "authorize," and you ignore it.

They are "authorized" to make a request that the government of Ukraine must comply with. Otherwise the government of Ukraine can ignore it. However, it's not illegal for any other person to make such a request. Trump was operating under the terms of the treaty by directing Barr to contact the government of Ukraine. That's why Schiff is no longer pursuing the "quid pro quo" line of attack. I realizes that will go nowhere.

Lying fucking moron, YOU posted...

The contracting states shall provide mutual assistance, in accordance with the provisions of this treaty, in connection with the investigation, prosecution, and prevention of offenses, and in proceedings related to criminal matters.​

Emphasis added to highlight what a lying fucking moron you are.

"in accordance with the provisions of this treaty includes the stated provision that our Attorney General, or someone the Attorney General designates, makes the reqest.

And he or she has to name our authority on the investigation, proceeding or prosecution with which we are requesting help -- which was non-existent in this case.

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever???

YOU posted that.

I've already explained that three times, moron. It doesn't mean that requests for assistance can't be made by other means. All it means is that if want Ukraine to be obligate to comply with the request, you have to follow the procedure outlined in the treaty.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, shit for brains?

LOLOL

Lying fucking moron, one of the provisions of the treaty is that requests come from the central authority.

YOU posted, mutual assistance shall be provided "in accordance with the provisions of this treaty."

Now you're ignoring the very words YOU posted to falsely claim the provision stipulating the central authority shall make such requsts.

You simply ignore everything I say on this subject.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't believe anyone made that claim, moron.

LOLOL

Lying fucking moron, Fruitcake posted it...

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And YOU marked it a 'winner'.

You literally hit 'winner' on a post you just doubted exists. That's how big of a lying fucking moron you are.

I can't even follow this argument any more. What "lie" am I posting?

LOLOL

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

I asked a question. How can that be a lie?

You are such a fucking moron.

Lying fucking moron, you literally hit 'winner' on a post you doubted existed.

I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

I'm done participating in this thread.

 

[Faun]

There's been no trial yet, lying fucking moron. What part of that escapes your lying fucking moronicship?

You already admitted it's not the same thing. The fact that Trump isn't getting due process couldn't be more obvious.

That's why I said, "essentially," ya lying fucking moron.

The only difference is one is regarding legal matters while the other is political matters.

But since you want to harp on that difference, show where the Constitution grants due process to non-legal matters....

In other words, not the same thing. On the one hand, you want us to believe that Schiff's kangaroo court is some kind of legal process observing due process, and on the other you want to take all the rules of due process and throw them out the window. You can't have it both ways, turd.

You failed to address my question.... where does the Constitution afford due process on non-legal matters?

I'm done riding on this wheel of circular logic. The Constitution doesn't prevent Piece of Schiff from conducting his kangaroo court. That doesn't mean it's not a kangaroo court.

There's no circular logic. You just realized you have no answer to my question.

 

[Faun]

Lying fucking moron, the treaty authorizes no one else but the section I mentioned to make the request.

It also requires the Attorney General to name the authority of an ongoing investigation, proceeding or prosecution for which the other country's assistance is requested. There was no such investigation, proceeding or prosecution.

ROFL! I just explained to you the meaning of the term "authorize," and you ignore it.

They are "authorized" to make a request that the government of Ukraine must comply with. Otherwise the government of Ukraine can ignore it. However, it's not illegal for any other person to make such a request. Trump was operating under the terms of the treaty by directing Barr to contact the government of Ukraine. That's why Schiff is no longer pursuing the "quid pro quo" line of attack. I realizes that will go nowhere.

Lying fucking moron, YOU posted...

The contracting states shall provide mutual assistance, in accordance with the provisions of this treaty, in connection with the investigation, prosecution, and prevention of offenses, and in proceedings related to criminal matters.​

Emphasis added to highlight what a lying fucking moron you are.

"in accordance with the provisions of this treaty includes the stated provision that our Attorney General, or someone the Attorney General designates, makes the reqest.

And he or she has to name our authority on the investigation, proceeding or prosecution with which we are requesting help -- which was non-existent in this case.

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever???

YOU posted that.

I've already explained that three times, moron. It doesn't mean that requests for assistance can't be made by other means. All it means is that if want Ukraine to be obligate to comply with the request, you have to follow the procedure outlined in the treaty.

How many times does this have to be explained to you, shit for brains?

LOLOL

Lying fucking moron, one of the provisions of the treaty is that requests come from the central authority.

YOU posted, mutual assistance shall be provided "in accordance with the provisions of this treaty."

Now you're ignoring the very words YOU posted to falsely claim the provision stipulating the central authority shall make such requsts.

You simply ignore everything I say on this subject.

Nope, I'm actually quoting what you posted...

"in accordance with the provisions of this treaty."

You're the one ignoring what you post.

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

Lying fucking moron, Fruitcake posted it...

View attachment 289170


And YOU marked it a 'winner'.

You literally hit 'winner' on a post you just doubted exists. That's how big of a lying fucking moron you are.

I can't even follow this argument any more. What "lie" am I posting?

LOLOL

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

I asked a question. How can that be a lie?

You are such a fucking moron.

Lying fucking moron, you literally hit 'winner' on a post you doubted existed.

I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

I'm done participating in this thread.

Ok, to recap.....

I pointed out Hunter Biden was never under investigation in response to some fruitcake posting he was.

You then chimed in with denial, "I don't believe anyone made that claim, moron."

At which point, I reposted the false claim that Hunter Biden was under investigation.

Even funnier, I highlighted how you designated that false claim a 'winner' before expressing doubt that anyone made that false claim.

Savvy?

 

[Uncensored2008]

"It specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations?" What the fuck does that mean? What kind of "request?" What does "specifies" mean?

Fucking moron, it means Trump didn't comply with the required protocol of the treaty.

What treaty protocol? Please quote the text.

[The treaty outlines its purpose is for either country to request help from the other in an ongoing investigation, proceeding, or prosection and requires the requesting country to name the authority of such.

There was no investigation into CrowdStrike or Joe Biden.

Really? How do you know that? Duhram is investigating how the whole "Russia! Russia! Russia!" Crowdstrike is part of that.

Even worse for Trump, requests are to be made between the two countries designated central authorities, not between presidents. The central authority for the U.S. is our Attorney General or whomever the Attorney General designates. The central authority for Ukraine is their Ministry of Justice and their office of Prosecutor General.

Does the treaty prevent Trump making a direct request? If so, please quote the text where it does, fucking moron.

The treaty states requests are to be made between the respective central authorities. That was not done. The treaty states the request shall name the authority of the investigation, proceeding or prosecution. There were no investigations, proceedings or prosecutions.

The link to this was posted in the OP. That you couldn't see it without help is yet more testament to you being a fucking moron.

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From the section you elided:

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The treaty obligates each party to help the other. It doesn't limit requests in any way. It only specifies the conditions under which one party is obligated to assist the other.

What this proves, of course, is that you're a lying douchebag.

LOL

Lying fucking moron.... obligated if the required protocols are met.

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever???

You mean like if they meet with the Attorney General?

Stupid fuck.

I get it, the house of cards is collapsing and you depended on it to interfere with the election....

{Mark Zaid, one of the attorneys representing the intelligence community whistleblower at the center of the Democrats' ongoing impeachment inquiry, tweeted conspicuously in January 2017 that a "coup has started" and that "impeachment will follow ultimately."}

'Coup has started,' whistleblower's attorney said in 2017 posts calling for impeachment

 

[Uncensored2008]

What did you insist on, fawn?

Your cartoon starts with a lie -- no one was investigating Biden's son.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

You keep peddling this lie even thought it as been debunked multiple times.

Nah, you're just a lying fucking moron. Want proof of that? You can't prove Hunter Biden was under investigation when Shokin was pushed into resigning. And you can't prove it because he wasn't.

I don't believe anyone made that claim, moron.

LOLOL

Lying fucking moron, Fruitcake posted it...

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And YOU marked it a 'winner'.

You literally hit 'winner' on a post you just doubted exists. That's how big of a lying fucking moron you are.

You're really quite stupid fawn. I doubt you know what day it is....

 

[Uncensored2008]

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It makes no difference if Barr knew about the call. What matters is that Barr was not investigating Biden.

More importantly, Loretta Lynch was not investigating Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, nor CIA "fixer" Eric Ciaramella. Now why is that?

Can you say "most corrupt AG in history?"

You know you're fucked, right hack? You grasp that the whole thing exploded in your corrupt face, doncha?

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

The identity of the whistle blower or his evidence no longer matters.
The investigation has moved on well past him.

Fucking moron.

It's over son, you've been busted.

 

[Uncensored2008]

ROFL! We all know it matters, and he will certainly have to testify in the Senate.

Honestly, I bet Pelosi shuts the whole thing down this week and that the Senate Republicans are such weak cowards that they let her get away with sweeping it all under the rug.

 

[Uncensored2008]

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

The identity of the whistle blower or his evidence no longer matters.
The investigation has moved on well past him.

ROFL! We all know it matters, and he will certainly have to testify in the Senate.

No...it doesn't matter and I'm sure the Senate will be much more interested in testimony from all the witnesses with firsthand knowledge of the President's actions.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Authorizes" can mean that it gives permission. However, there's no reason to believe the Trump needed permission. One thing it makes clear is that no law is broken when a US official requests help to investigate criminality of US citizens, which is what all you Piece of Schiff minions have claimed.

The treaty names who is authorized. The Attorney General.

That doesn't change just because you're a lying fucking moron.

Yes, it names who is authorized to make requests that Ukraine must comply with. Ukraine is free to ignore any other request, but nothing in the treaty makes other requests illegal.

I just made it clear that you're the lying moron. You tried to put one over on forum members by omitting the crucial section of the document that defines what "authorized" means.

Lying fucking moron, the treaty authorizes no one else but the section I mentioned to make the request.

It also requires the Attorney General to name the authority of an ongoing investigation, proceeding or prosecution for which the other country's assistance is requested. There was no such investigation, proceeding or prosecution.

ROFL! I just explained to you the meaning of the term "authorize," and you ignore it.

They are "authorized" to make a request that the government of Ukraine must comply with. Otherwise the government of Ukraine can ignore it. However, it's not illegal for any other person to make such a request. Trump was operating under the terms of the treaty by directing Barr to contact the government of Ukraine. That's why Schiff is no longer pursuing the "quid pro quo" line of attack. I realizes that will go nowhere.

Lying fucking moron, YOU posted...

The contracting states shall provide mutual assistance, in accordance with the provisions of this treaty, in connection with the investigation, prosecution, and prevention of offenses, and in proceedings related to criminal matters.​

Emphasis added to highlight what a lying fucking moron you are.

"in accordance with the provisions of this treaty includes the stated provision that our Attorney General, or someone the Attorney General designates, makes the reqest.

And he or she has to name our authority on the investigation, proceeding or prosecution with which we are requesting help -- which was non-existent in this case.

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever???

YOU posted that.

Uh stupid fuck....

You really are nearly retarded.

 

[bripat9643]

"It specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations?" What the fuck does that mean? What kind of "request?" What does "specifies" mean?

Fucking moron, it means Trump didn't comply with the required protocol of the treaty.

What treaty protocol? Please quote the text.

[The treaty outlines its purpose is for either country to request help from the other in an ongoing investigation, proceeding, or prosection and requires the requesting country to name the authority of such.

There was no investigation into CrowdStrike or Joe Biden.

Really? How do you know that? Duhram is investigating how the whole "Russia! Russia! Russia!" Crowdstrike is part of that.

Even worse for Trump, requests are to be made between the two countries designated central authorities, not between presidents. The central authority for the U.S. is our Attorney General or whomever the Attorney General designates. The central authority for Ukraine is their Ministry of Justice and their office of Prosecutor General.

Does the treaty prevent Trump making a direct request? If so, please quote the text where it does, fucking moron.

The treaty states requests are to be made between the respective central authorities. That was not done. The treaty states the request shall name the authority of the investigation, proceeding or prosecution. There were no investigations, proceedings or prosecutions.

The link to this was posted in the OP. That you couldn't see it without help is yet more testament to you being a fucking moron.

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From the section you elided:

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The treaty obligates each party to help the other. It doesn't limit requests in any way. It only specifies the conditions under which one party is obligated to assist the other.

What this proves, of course, is that you're a lying douchebag.

LOL

Lying fucking moron.... obligated if the required protocols are met.

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever???

Yes, they are obligated if the USA follows the proper procedures. That doesn't mean failing to follow the correct procedures is a crime, you fucking moron. It just means that the USA won't be entitled to receive the services detailed by the treaty.

How don't know how many times I have to pound this into your fucking skull before it dawns on you.

 

[bripat9643]

ROFL! We all know it matters, and he will certainly have to testify in the Senate.

Honestly, I bet Pelosi shuts the whole thing down this week and that the Senate Republicans are such weak cowards that they let her get away with sweeping it all under the rug.

Yes, I have already predicted that an impeachment referral when never make it to the Senate. It's already looking ridiculous.

 

[idb]

More importantly, Loretta Lynch was not investigating Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, nor CIA "fixer" Eric Ciaramella. Now why is that?

Can you say "most corrupt AG in history?"

You know you're fucked, right hack? You grasp that the whole thing exploded in your corrupt face, doncha?

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

The identity of the whistle blower or his evidence no longer matters.
The investigation has moved on well past him.

Fucking moron.

It's over son, you've been busted.

Please explain.
Feel free to use crayons if that helps.

 

[idb]

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

The identity of the whistle blower or his evidence no longer matters.
The investigation has moved on well past him.

ROFL! We all know it matters, and he will certainly have to testify in the Senate.

No...it doesn't matter and I'm sure the Senate will be much more interested in testimony from all the witnesses with firsthand knowledge of the President's actions.

If it doesn't matter, then why are Schiff ass kissing turds like you trying so hard to get everyone to ignore him?

The Senate is going to rake the so-called "whistleblower" over the coals. For a least a week we will be regaled with all the evidence that he hates Trump and that he has been conspiring for three years stage a coup against him.

Schiff will also have his time in the hot seat. He won't be coming back to the House next year.

So what?
He could pledge his undying murderous hatred every day at the hearings...but the cat's out of the bag...Schiff has much better testimony to use.

 

[Uncensored2008]

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

The identity of the whistle blower or his evidence no longer matters.
The investigation has moved on well past him.

Fucking moron.

It's over son, you've been busted.

Please explain.
Feel free to use crayons if that helps.

You really are quite stupid.

The "whistleblower" - Eric Ciaramella - Obama's "fixer" in Ukraine in charge of ensuring taxpayer money that flowed into USAID was directed to the proper companies, like Burisma, and flowed right back into the pockets of players like Biden and Obama. Not a "whistleblower" at all, but a conspirator up to his neck in the corruption that the elite were so desperate to coverup.

Look, I get that you are a hack, a partisan drone who defines his life by the party. But doesn't it bother you even a little that men like Barack Obama who have a hundred million dollars, are stealing money from American tax payers? Even if you're a welfare rat, which I'm sure you are, the money Biden embezzled is money that COULD have been used for transfer payments to you. Instead it's laundered through Ukrainian businesses so that powerful democrats can steal it. And that's all cool with you? You worship the party so much that you don't mind them butt fucking you and then kicking you for the effort?

That's beyond pathetic.

 

[idb]

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

The identity of the whistle blower or his evidence no longer matters.
The investigation has moved on well past him.

Fucking moron.

It's over son, you've been busted.

Please explain.
Feel free to use crayons if that helps.

You really are quite stupid.

The "whistleblower" - Eric Ciaramella - Obama's "fixer" in Ukraine in charge of ensuring taxpayer money that flowed into USAID was directed to the proper companies, like Burisma, and flowed right back into the pockets of players like Biden and Obama. Not a "whistleblower" at all, but a conspirator up to his neck in the corruption that the elite were so desperate to coverup.

Look, I get that you are a hack, a partisan drone who defines his life by the party. But doesn't it bother you even a little that men like Barack Obama who have a hundred million dollars, are stealing money from American tax payers? Even if you're a welfare rat, which I'm sure you are, the money Biden embezzled is money that COULD have been used for transfer payments to you. Instead it's laundered through Ukrainian businesses so that powerful democrats can steal it. And that's all cool with you? You worship the party so much that you don't mind them butt fucking you and then kicking you for the effort?

That's beyond pathetic.

Wow...the conspiracy runs way deeper than I realised!
I'm willing to be convinced...can you link me to evidence of him being Obama's fixer and...well...all the rest that you said?

I'm also interested in how Obama is stealing money from taxpayers.