Offical Impeachment Thread

[Uncensored2008]

You gutless Dem clowns do something about it DO IT impeach Trump.

LOL

Figures you nut jobs would call fof his impeachment before the hearings are over. Of course, that reveals how nervous you are about what's coming out that you want him impeached before it does.

Say Comrade, this concept that Schitt and the Stalinist thugs in the house are working off of, that a man is guilty THEN you find out what he is guilty of, where did that originate?

It sure isn't American or part of common law...

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Fruitcake, if trump were presumed to be guilty, there would be no hearings now or possible trial coming up.

Like I always say, you rightards are dumber than shit.

This isn't a "hearing." It's a show trial.

It's a Soviet Star Chamber, right out of a Stalinist Show Trial.

The democrats are Stalinists - fact.

 

[mascale]

The more likely lawful is partially Faun posted, the bold part.

"Lying fucking moron, that treaty authorizes the Attorney General to make such requests with Ukraine, not the president. That doesn't mean Trump still can't make requests to Ukraine, he can ... he just can't do it under the jurisdiction of that treaty unless the Attorney General designates the president to do so -- which Barr did not do."

There are two clauses in Article 2 of the treaty that are germane. Like posted, The offices of the US Attorney General, and the Ukraine Justice Minister: Are designated, and pursuant to rules in each nation pursuant to each office. Clause 2.4 designates only Communication between the two named offices.

Anyone guesses the specificity goes to the matter of not being able to use the treaty for political purposes, specifically also condemned in the Treaty. The problem of the talking voices, under the mattress in the Lincoln Bedroom--specifically blaming everything on Vice President Biden: Was prohibited already, and even from the start.

Prima Facie, anything outside of Article 2 is political interference, and so not covered in the Treaty.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Have Big Shovel, Stir up anthill: Specifically!)

 

[Faun]

The Treaty is in fact specific to international law enforcement--agreement between nations for assistance. The good news is that the memory and fact-challenged old man President is not the authorized office for making the request. Per Lawful US Ratification, USA and Kiev agree that the Central Authorities are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Justice Minister. The specificity is that only those two offices are empowered: Even to communicate about the covered matters. Anyone surmises that lawful and legal procedures in both nations are intended.

Sorry, douchebag, but it doesn't say that Trump can't make a request personally to the president of Ukraine. That's a TDS fantasy.

Lying fucking moron, that treaty authorizes the Attorney General to make such requests with Ukraine, not the president. That doesn't mean Trump still can't make requests to Ukraine, he can ... he just can't do it under the jurisdiction of that treaty unless the Attorney General designates the president to do so -- which Barr did not do.

You would understand this if you weren't such a lying fucking moron.

I do understand it, moron. The President doesn't need to be authorized to make a personal Request to the President of Ukraine, period. All that treaty does is make it against the rules for other government officials to make such a request.

Lying fucking moron, the treaty only authorizes the "central authority."

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

 

[Faun]

You gutless Dem clowns do something about it DO IT impeach Trump.

LOL

Figures you nut jobs would call fof his impeachment before the hearings are over. Of course, that reveals how nervous you are about what's coming out that you want him impeached before it does.

Say Comrade, this concept that Schitt and the Stalinist thugs in the house are working off of, that a man is guilty THEN you find out what he is guilty of, where did that originate?

It sure isn't American or part of common law...

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Fruitcake, if trump were presumed to be guilty, there would be no hearings now or possible trial coming up.

Like I always say, you rightards are dumber than shit.

Or an impeachment.

Oh, wait.

You fucking Stalinists pervert everything that it is to be American.

Do the hate sites pay you? Seriously?

Fruitcake, impeachment is essentially an indictment. Trump's due process comes in the trial.

 

[Faun]

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It makes no difference if Barr knew about the call. What matters is that Barr was not investigating Biden.

More importantly, Loretta Lynch was not investigating Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, nor CIA "fixer" Eric Ciaramella. Now why is that?

Can you say "most corrupt AG in history?"

You know you're fucked, right hack? You grasp that the whole thing exploded in your corrupt face, doncha?

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

No, Fruitcake, you don't know that. That has not been confirmed.

 

[Faun]

Insists a proven lying fucking moron.

What did you insist on, fawn?

Your cartoon starts with a lie -- no one was investigating Biden's son.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

 

[bripat9643]

The Treaty is in fact specific to international law enforcement--agreement between nations for assistance. The good news is that the memory and fact-challenged old man President is not the authorized office for making the request. Per Lawful US Ratification, USA and Kiev agree that the Central Authorities are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Justice Minister. The specificity is that only those two offices are empowered: Even to communicate about the covered matters. Anyone surmises that lawful and legal procedures in both nations are intended.

Sorry, douchebag, but it doesn't say that Trump can't make a request personally to the president of Ukraine. That's a TDS fantasy.

Lying fucking moron, that treaty authorizes the Attorney General to make such requests with Ukraine, not the president. That doesn't mean Trump still can't make requests to Ukraine, he can ... he just can't do it under the jurisdiction of that treaty unless the Attorney General designates the president to do so -- which Barr did not do.

You would understand this if you weren't such a lying fucking moron.

I do understand it, moron. The President doesn't need to be authorized to make a personal Request to the President of Ukraine, period. All that treaty does is make it against the rules for other government officials to make such a request.

Lying fucking moron, the treaty only authorizes the "central authority."

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

"Authorizes" can mean that it gives permission. However, there's no reason to believe the Trump needed permission. One thing it makes clear is that no law is broken when a US official requests help to investigate criminality of US citizens, which is what all you Piece of Schiff minions have claimed.

 

[bripat9643]

Insists a proven lying fucking moron.

What did you insist on, fawn?

Your cartoon starts with a lie -- no one was investigating Biden's son.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

You keep peddling this lie even thought it as been debunked multiple times.

 

[bripat9643]

The Treaty specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations. The Trump office released the parody/paraphrased transcript on its own. It created the Treaty Violation all by itself, and with 25 others listening in: Just in the United States alone! The call is an outlaw violation. White House ponied up the violation on its own.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Kurdish babies already left for munching, already subsequent the phone call!)

"It specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations?" What the fuck does that mean? What kind of "request?" What does "specifies" mean?

Fucking moron, it means Trump didn't comply with the required protocol of the treaty.

What treaty protocol? Please quote the text.

[The treaty outlines its purpose is for either country to request help from the other in an ongoing investigation, proceeding, or prosection and requires the requesting country to name the authority of such.

There was no investigation into CrowdStrike or Joe Biden.

Really? How do you know that? Duhram is investigating how the whole "Russia! Russia! Russia!" Crowdstrike is part of that.

Even worse for Trump, requests are to be made between the two countries designated central authorities, not between presidents. The central authority for the U.S. is our Attorney General or whomever the Attorney General designates. The central authority for Ukraine is their Ministry of Justice and their office of Prosecutor General.

Does the treaty prevent Trump making a direct request? If so, please quote the text where it does, fucking moron.

The treaty states requests are to be made between the respective central authorities. That was not done. The treaty states the request shall name the authority of the investigation, proceeding or prosecution. There were no investigations, proceedings or prosecutions.

The link to this was posted in the OP. That you couldn't see it without help is yet more testament to you being a fucking moron.

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From the section you elided:

The treaty obligates each party to help the other. It doesn't limit requests in any way. It only specifies the conditions under which one party is obligated to assist the other.

What this proves, of course, is that you're a lying douchebag.

 

[bripat9643]

You gutless Dem clowns do something about it DO IT impeach Trump.

LOL

Figures you nut jobs would call fof his impeachment before the hearings are over. Of course, that reveals how nervous you are about what's coming out that you want him impeached before it does.

Say Comrade, this concept that Schitt and the Stalinist thugs in the house are working off of, that a man is guilty THEN you find out what he is guilty of, where did that originate?

It sure isn't American or part of common law...

View attachment 288964

Fruitcake, if trump were presumed to be guilty, there would be no hearings now or possible trial coming up.

Like I always say, you rightards are dumber than shit.

Or an impeachment.

Oh, wait.

You fucking Stalinists pervert everything that it is to be American.

Do the hate sites pay you? Seriously?

Fruitcake, impeachment is essentially an indictment. Trump's due process comes in the trial.

"Essentially" but not. One thing is certain, nothing Schiff is doing can be called "due process," and it's all utterly unprecedented.

 

[bripat9643]

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It makes no difference if Barr knew about the call. What matters is that Barr was not investigating Biden.

More importantly, Loretta Lynch was not investigating Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, nor CIA "fixer" Eric Ciaramella. Now why is that?

Can you say "most corrupt AG in history?"

You know you're fucked, right hack? You grasp that the whole thing exploded in your corrupt face, doncha?

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

No, Fruitcake, you don't know that. That has not been confirmed.

Yes, we do know that. Schiff's little kangaroo court is fucked. Schiff will go down in history as the McCarthy of the 2010s

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The Law Enforcement Assistance and Cooperation Treaty with Ukraine specifies that the designated officials of the two nations are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Minister of Justice, (3.1.d.). The treaty binds those two offices--and so the usual rules in both nations, regarding those offices: In the Treaty. So from the New York Times, about the phone--Barbarous Anti-American sentiment is apparently what the White House has documented.

"A Justice Department official said that Mr. Barr had no knowledge of the call until the director of national intelligence and the intelligence community’s inspector general sent the department the whistle-blower’s criminal referral late last month, and that Mr. Trump has not spoken with the attorney general “about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former Vice President Biden or his son.”

Political interference is not considered cause, stated in the Treaty provisions.

https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf

Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Red-Hatter waving takes on a new appearance. "Banzai! Surprise!" Attack on the USA apparently is supported--or on Ukraine, or Crimea!)

Wrong treaty dummy.

Find the one signed by Clinton.

You'll hate it.

You're obviously not that far out of the loop......

 

[Faun]

The Treaty is in fact specific to international law enforcement--agreement between nations for assistance. The good news is that the memory and fact-challenged old man President is not the authorized office for making the request. Per Lawful US Ratification, USA and Kiev agree that the Central Authorities are the US Attorney General and the Ukraine Justice Minister. The specificity is that only those two offices are empowered: Even to communicate about the covered matters. Anyone surmises that lawful and legal procedures in both nations are intended.

Sorry, douchebag, but it doesn't say that Trump can't make a request personally to the president of Ukraine. That's a TDS fantasy.

Lying fucking moron, that treaty authorizes the Attorney General to make such requests with Ukraine, not the president. That doesn't mean Trump still can't make requests to Ukraine, he can ... he just can't do it under the jurisdiction of that treaty unless the Attorney General designates the president to do so -- which Barr did not do.

You would understand this if you weren't such a lying fucking moron.

I do understand it, moron. The President doesn't need to be authorized to make a personal Request to the President of Ukraine, period. All that treaty does is make it against the rules for other government officials to make such a request.

Lying fucking moron, the treaty only authorizes the "central authority."

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

"Authorizes" can mean that it gives permission. However, there's no reason to believe the Trump needed permission. One thing it makes clear is that no law is broken when a US official requests help to investigate criminality of US citizens, which is what all you Piece of Schiff minions have claimed.

The treaty names who is authorized. The Attorney General.

That doesn't change just because you're a lying fucking moron.

 

[Faun]

Insists a proven lying fucking moron.

What did you insist on, fawn?

Your cartoon starts with a lie -- no one was investigating Biden's son.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

You keep peddling this lie even thought it as been debunked multiple times.

Nah, you're just a lying fucking moron. Want proof of that? You can't prove Hunter Biden was under investigation when Shokin was pushed into resigning. And you can't prove it because he wasn't.

 

[bripat9643]

Sorry, douchebag, but it doesn't say that Trump can't make a request personally to the president of Ukraine. That's a TDS fantasy.

Lying fucking moron, that treaty authorizes the Attorney General to make such requests with Ukraine, not the president. That doesn't mean Trump still can't make requests to Ukraine, he can ... he just can't do it under the jurisdiction of that treaty unless the Attorney General designates the president to do so -- which Barr did not do.

You would understand this if you weren't such a lying fucking moron.

I do understand it, moron. The President doesn't need to be authorized to make a personal Request to the President of Ukraine, period. All that treaty does is make it against the rules for other government officials to make such a request.

Lying fucking moron, the treaty only authorizes the "central authority."

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever??

"Authorizes" can mean that it gives permission. However, there's no reason to believe the Trump needed permission. One thing it makes clear is that no law is broken when a US official requests help to investigate criminality of US citizens, which is what all you Piece of Schiff minions have claimed.

The treaty names who is authorized. The Attorney General.

That doesn't change just because you're a lying fucking moron.

Yes, it names who is authorized to make requests that Ukraine must comply with. Ukraine is free to ignore any other request, but nothing in the treaty makes other requests illegal.

I just made it clear that you're the lying moron. You tried to put one over on forum members by omitting the crucial section of the document that defines what "authorized" means.

 

[bripat9643]

Insists a proven lying fucking moron.

What did you insist on, fawn?

Your cartoon starts with a lie -- no one was investigating Biden's son.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

You keep peddling this lie even thought it as been debunked multiple times.

Nah, you're just a lying fucking moron. Want proof of that? You can't prove Hunter Biden was under investigation when Shokin was pushed into resigning. And you can't prove it because he wasn't.

I don't believe anyone made that claim, moron.

 

[Faun]

The Treaty specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations. The Trump office released the parody/paraphrased transcript on its own. It created the Treaty Violation all by itself, and with 25 others listening in: Just in the United States alone! The call is an outlaw violation. White House ponied up the violation on its own.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Kurdish babies already left for munching, already subsequent the phone call!)

"It specifies the participants to the request, designated officials in the law of both nations?" What the fuck does that mean? What kind of "request?" What does "specifies" mean?

Fucking moron, it means Trump didn't comply with the required protocol of the treaty.

What treaty protocol? Please quote the text.

[The treaty outlines its purpose is for either country to request help from the other in an ongoing investigation, proceeding, or prosection and requires the requesting country to name the authority of such.

There was no investigation into CrowdStrike or Joe Biden.

Really? How do you know that? Duhram is investigating how the whole "Russia! Russia! Russia!" Crowdstrike is part of that.

Even worse for Trump, requests are to be made between the two countries designated central authorities, not between presidents. The central authority for the U.S. is our Attorney General or whomever the Attorney General designates. The central authority for Ukraine is their Ministry of Justice and their office of Prosecutor General.

Does the treaty prevent Trump making a direct request? If so, please quote the text where it does, fucking moron.

The treaty states requests are to be made between the respective central authorities. That was not done. The treaty states the request shall name the authority of the investigation, proceeding or prosecution. There were no investigations, proceedings or prosecutions.

The link to this was posted in the OP. That you couldn't see it without help is yet more testament to you being a fucking moron.

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From the section you elided:

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The treaty obligates each party to help the other. It doesn't limit requests in any way. It only specifies the conditions under which one party is obligated to assist the other.

What this proves, of course, is that you're a lying douchebag.

LOL

Lying fucking moron.... obligated if the required protocols are met.

Are you ever not a lying fucking moron?

Ever???

 

[The Purge]

 

[Faun]

LOL

Figures you nut jobs would call fof his impeachment before the hearings are over. Of course, that reveals how nervous you are about what's coming out that you want him impeached before it does.

Say Comrade, this concept that Schitt and the Stalinist thugs in the house are working off of, that a man is guilty THEN you find out what he is guilty of, where did that originate?

It sure isn't American or part of common law...

View attachment 288964

Fruitcake, if trump were presumed to be guilty, there would be no hearings now or possible trial coming up.

Like I always say, you rightards are dumber than shit.

Or an impeachment.

Oh, wait.

You fucking Stalinists pervert everything that it is to be American.

Do the hate sites pay you? Seriously?

Fruitcake, impeachment is essentially an indictment. Trump's due process comes in the trial.

"Essentially" but not. One thing is certain, nothing Schiff is doing can be called "due process," and it's all utterly unprecedented.

"Essentially" as in the same thing with the exception that it's outside the Judiciary. Indictment is a formal criminal charge where due process grants a criminal trial; while impeachment is a formal procedural charge where due process grants a procedural trial.

 

[Faun]

More importantly, Loretta Lynch was not investigating Quid Pro Joe, Hunter, nor CIA "fixer" Eric Ciaramella. Now why is that?

Can you say "most corrupt AG in history?"

You know you're fucked, right hack? You grasp that the whole thing exploded in your corrupt face, doncha?

LOLOL

Yeah, that must explain why Trump is facing impeachment and potential criminal charges for soliciting campaign help from a foreign national, while Lynch is old news.

We all know the reason: it's because Democrats are deranged moon-bats who have been wanting to impeach Trump since the day elected, especially the so-called "whistleblower."

Now that we know that Eric Fucking Ciaramella is the mole, the democrats are fucked. It's about on the level of Chuck Schumer filing a complaint...

No, Fruitcake, you don't know that. That has not been confirmed.

Yes, we do know that. Schiff's little kangaroo court is fucked. Schiff will go down in history as the McCarthy of the 2010s