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You don’t have any evidence that Biden was corrupt.
But we have a very very clear evidence that Trump is very corrupt. That’s a fact jack.
This planet has 7.5 billion people on it. Do you mean to tell me there is nothing corrupt about a VP's son getting the job when he was the least qualified out of all these people? Not only that, but the highest paid member on the board?
Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?
The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.
As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.
The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.
A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?
We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.
So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?
If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.
Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.
Hunter Biden - Wikipedia
FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?
I'm going by what some are estimating it at. But WTF is the difference? He's still a drug addict getting paid to sit on a board of a company he had no experience in. And a few weeks ago, they got an email from Burisma to the State Department, and in the email, they dropped Hunters name trying to gain favor of the department.
Who are you to talk about American's like you do ??? If it is found that you have been using propaganda to hurt fellow Americans for political reason's, will you apologize ??All this impeachment inquiry, and how is handled by Schiff is kinda telling me that Schiff is somehow connected to Ukraine, maybe even to Burisma.
Damn, just yesterday I called it.
Shots fired!
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BULLSHIT. Do you expect anything honest from these corrupted disgusting people piece of shit like Guilliani?
These people can post anything then poorly informed people and ignorant idiots like you eat it right away.
Funny how everything that has led up to this mess, has been somehow ignored when the iron is hot on each created farce, and this is why we know that it is all a farce that is taking place for political reason's. All investigations take into account the entire case from beginning to end, and that includes all evidence that is uncovered along the way, and since the beginning.
The jumping from wild topic to wild topic shows this to be a miriad of political stunts that has been taking place ever since Trump won.
hopefully nunes and barr tooWho are you to talk about American's like you do ??? If it is found that you have been using propaganda to hurt fellow Americans for political reason's, will you apologize ??All this impeachment inquiry, and how is handled by Schiff is kinda telling me that Schiff is somehow connected to Ukraine, maybe even to Burisma.
Damn, just yesterday I called it.
Shots fired!
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BULLSHIT. Do you expect anything honest from these corrupted disgusting people piece of shit like Guilliani?
These people can post anything then poorly informed people and ignorant idiots like you eat it right away.
Funny how everything that has led up to this mess, has been somehow ignored when the iron is hot on each created farce, and this is why we know that it is all a farce that is taking place for political reason's. All investigations take into account the entire case from beginning to end, and that includes all evidence that is uncovered along the way, and since the beginning.
The jumping from wild topic to wild topic shows this to be a miriad of political stunts that has been taking place ever since Trump won.
You don’t even know what you are talking about. Let alone questioning me.
Guilliani and Trump and these goons are corrupt.
I expect Guilliani will be indicted.
Now that the 'Impeachment' scam is completely dead and there is now no way they can vote for it, what is the next propaganda campaign going to be?
How do you even know that?
Because Democrats live and die by the polls. The television ratings went right downhill since the first inquiry. Impeachment is losing ground, especially among Independents.
The Democrats would have to be complete idiots to proceed with it now.
So because slow Joe is running for President, he's insulated from any suspicion of wrong doing? This is the problem: in spite of their beliefs, there is no Thought Police in the US. You cannot read minds or tell the future. Nobody, including Trump, knows who he's going to run against. Furthermore, Joe is so washed up that Biden getting the nomination would guarantee a Trump win.
This happened the other night. Slow Joe claimed to have the support from the only black woman in the Senate. Problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he made the claim.
Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.
What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.
Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.
Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.
I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.
EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.
There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.
When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and if the request is coming from president, it's violation of constitution.
Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted. There would been no case of impeachment.
Then what you are saying is that even if Biden exercised corruption, he is immune from requests of an investigation simply because he is one of 30 people running for the nomination????? How ridiculous is that?
Now find me the word "investigation" in that phone transcript please. Trump never said anything about Biden's candidacy nor election. The commies just decided to use it as an excuse to conduct a phony impeachment hearing. When you on the left can come up with empirical evidence as to why Trump asked that favor, then bring impeachment charges. But they can't legitimately bring such charges based on what the commies thought Trump meant.
Again, this is a Thought Police impeachment.
Trump should not be asking the Ukraine or any country for an investigation targeting any presidential candidate because it’s violates our election laws. It is perfectly legal for him to ask the Ukraine to investigate corruption in their country as long as he does not include any presidential candidate in that request.
Whether Biden violated Ukraine law is a Ukrainian issue, not a US issue. Had Trump simply ask for an investigation of corruption in the Ukraine and left it to Guilana to pressure Zenlinsky to make a public statement and focus on Biden, we wouldn’t be discussing this now.
Again, there is no doubt that Trump conveyed his desire for an investigation to Zelensky. Zelensky mention the investigation 6 times in their July 25 phone conversation in response to Trump’s request. Equally clear is the fact that Trump wanted that investigation to include Biden. In that phone conversation Trump said, “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.” This is not hearsay evidence and there is no need to guess at what Trump meant or is asking for because he's telling us. If you're claiming Trump was not asking for an investigation of Biden or Trump's intent is unclear, you're see this through GOP colored glasses.
Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky - CNNPolitics
Oh you could afford it alright, it's just that you didn't realize it when they forced you to pay for others healthcare by making you pay a penalty to the IRS even if you didn't need healthcare insurance yourself. It was the first shot across the bow into turning this country into a socialist country to be run by the Democrats. Hillary losing was shocking to these people for whom had it all laid out in the perfect plan.Yep, and the reason being is because when ever you start making demands on the people in which will be known to not be accepted by them, then this is when the progression of these things begin to take place. This goes for anything the people of this country find inappropriate for them to be forced into.There is no difference between a Socialist and a Democrat Socialist. They threw the name Democrat in there to edge into the party, which will be totally Socialist within the next two decades.
And since you don't read posts before you reply, I'll state it again: the only stance of Trump that the that the white supremacists like is his southern border policy, because it keeps Hispanics out of the country. They don't care what his reasons are. It benefits them as far as they're concerned.
Correct.
Lenin was Social-Democrat. There is no difference in between Russian Marxist philosophy from today's so called Social Democrats.
Lenin: The Tasks of the Russian Social-Democrats
Lenin’s Conception of Socialism
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Forward anyone?
It's how they will ease it in.
It went from Democrat to progressive.
From progressive to liberalism.
From liberalism to Democrat socialism. \
Down the road.
Democrat socialism to socialism.
From socialism to socialist communism.
From socialist communism to plain communism.
Correct. Kind of like the Affordable Care Act. WTF is affordable about it? I certainly can't afford it, and millions of others like me.
It all started with Trump when on July 25, he ask Zelensky for this little favor of investigating the Bidens. The most shocking part of this is that Trump saw absolutely nothing wrong in asking a foreign goverment to investigate a candidate for president that he will most likely face in the next election. If the Senate fails to convict Trump which is almost certain, the biggest celebration will not be in the White House but in Moscow.
So because slow Joe is running for President, he's insulated from any suspicion of wrong doing? This is the problem: in spite of their beliefs, there is no Thought Police in the US. You cannot read minds or tell the future. Nobody, including Trump, knows who he's going to run against. Furthermore, Joe is so washed up that Biden getting the nomination would guarantee a Trump win.
This happened the other night. Slow Joe claimed to have the support from the only black woman in the Senate. Problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he made the claim.
Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.
What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.
Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.
Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.
I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.
Too early to say any of what, who and not the nominee.
One thing for sure. Trump and his cartels are afraid of Biden.
You proved it here. That you and the rest of your buddies here are ALL scared of Biden will beat Trump. I mean ALL of you are scared of Biden. Look at the the way you attack Biden.
Biden is an old fool. He can't get through one week without making a fool out of himself. Trump would rip him to pieces.
Last week they had the debates, as if anybody knew about it. Joe stood there and said he had the support from the only black female Senator. Good lie, but the problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he said it.
Of course watching MSM, I doubt you know about things like this. But Biden can't even remember what state he's in.
Wow, whje caught lying, you just increase the lying. Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter getting that job.When I want your advice I'll ask for it.................Biden is dirty...........He was hooking up his son with his position while Ukrainians were dying in the field against Russia............Jesus fuck you people are dumnber than shit.Long winded Lie bro.....
Biden didn't go to Ukraine to save it from Russia...........Apple Pie...........and the American way.........He did it to take advantage of the Chaos.......He takes his son on Air Force 2 to the Ukraine while thousands are dying from the Ruskies..........And a week later his son is WOW on the Board of the Largest Gas Producer in the Ukraine.............
If your concern is for the Ukraine with Russia on their door step back then.........Then Biden should have been there to meet with Ukraine military officials to discuss WHAT THEY NEED to PROTECT THEMSELVES...........
Like Lethal aid.............the ability to kill Russian armor.......aka tanks...........Did Joe and Obama do that........they gave a bunch of NON MILITARY AID.............but didn't give Ukraine weapons to stop the Russians on the battlefield...........
Biden CASHED in on his position during a time of Crisis and Chaos..............for his son.......Ray Charles can see that.
Trump on the other hand gave Ukraine Lethal weapons to help them KILL RUSSIANS if need be.........Why didn't that happen when Obama was in power..........hmmmm..........As thousands of Ukrainians were dying......
The DOJ has been looking at 2016 election meddling for years now, but have ignored the DNC's role in this and the courts of Ukraine in this.............Because it has been a Partisan Investigation that ignores the other sides dealings from the Deep State............who are attempting a COUP on Trump.
I'll use what the Dems have been using for years..............IF BIDEN is innocent...........then he should want this investigated to CLEAR HIS NAME.............If he did no crime .............Then he should WELCOME BEING INVESTIGATED.............
The Biden's will not be taken down..............Graham calling for an investigation will in the end do NOTHING.........It's a Show.............Biden and Graham are friends......and behind closed doors laugh about it and rehearse the next SHOW to cover their butts from all the corruption they have done as career politicains.
Career politicians from both parties...........keep the people at each other so they don't come after them for their corruption..............It's a designed strategy
How often has Ivanka or Jared ride on AF1? When Trump was dealing with China, both Donnie & Ivanka were getting copyrights for their businesses.
That is corruption.
Joe Biden acted along with other countries to remove a prosecutor. (there was no active barisma investigation at that time)
Hunter Biden was never being investigated.
You God damn stupid fucks need to start caring more about Amerca than that Conman you elected President.
If he's so great, why wasn't he there arranging anti tank missiles to KILL RUSSIANS............You have for years said TRUMP RUSSIA..............yet your own side sent MRE's instead of weapons while people were dying........
Your party is a JOKE...........Biden is a Joke........and so is this investigation............
You are a joke, Trump Boy.
Correct, Hunter just answered a want ad in the paper:
LARGE ENERGY COMPANY LOOKING FOR BOARD MEMBER. NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, NO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE. LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE WITH SEVERE DRUG PROBLEMS, PREFERABLY KICKED OUT OF THE MILITARY AND ATTENDED MULTIPLE REHAB CLINICS.
You are just unbelievable full of crap.
Drug problems of Hunter was way before he became a board members and work prestigious companies here in US ..... before he joined Burisma.
Like I told you before board member of a company like Gas or Coal, Exxon, Gold..... it’s very very easy. You don’t have to mix chemicals.
We went these over before.
Hunter got the high paying job with no experience. So?
Trump asking a favor to a foreign leader to investigate his political rival. Is not acceptable no matter how much you twist it. Trump is a piece of shit.
How is Kushner running around with out diplomatic experience? Don’t tell me he is doing it for free.
How is Guilliani a private citizen running around like a diplomat? Spreading corrupted propaganda. Don’t tell me he is doing it for free.
WTF does that have to do with it? Trump can hire anybody he wants.
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This is not about Joe hiring somebody. It's about getting favors from a foreign corrupt company. Favors are not granted out of kindness. People expect something in return. An email was discovered through the FOIA that showed one from Burisma, dropping Hunters name to curry favor from the State Department.
Impeachment is not for what you or others find acceptable or not. Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors, none of which Donald is part of.
Talking about hypocrite.
You mentioned Hunter unqualified and highly paid. I gave you an exact example of the same situations. You are full of cow dung.
I deal with hundreds of suppliers and vendors. So when I ask one of them to hire one of my nephews. That is a favor. Is that bad?
Biden ask Burisma to hire his son. Where did Biden violate any rules?
We don't know because it''s never been investigated. That's why Trump asked Zelensky to "look into it" as a favor. And if there is something that shows corruption, then Trump could have the IG look at that.
No, it's not bad if you ask a vendor to hire your nephew. But then again, you have no power to return the favor.
Wrong very wrong.
Asking a foreign leader a favor to dig dirt against his political rival. Is totally wrong.
You can twist however you want to protect this piece of shit president. That is not right.
I asked you a very simple reality question. Your answer is very wrong. Let me ask you again.
I deal with hundreds of vendors and suppliers regularly. If I asked one them a favor to hire my nephew.
Where and what law or any code of ethics did I violate?
Return back the favor? Giving them a contract.
Joe Biden got his son Hunter a job at Butisma. Tell me what law did he violate?
Trump getting his son inlaw a job unqualified. Is that also unacceptable?
Why do you keep asking questions I or others have answered already?
Show me where Trump used the term Dig Dirt.
You people on the left are such hypocrites. On one hand, you're trying to make claim that what Joe did was perfectly fine and legal. On the other hand, you want to see Trump impeached for being accused of doing the exact same thing.
Joe asked for the prosecutor to be fired, he got it.
Trump asked for a favor to look into Burisma and Hunter, he never got it.
Joe threaten US aid to Ukraine.
Trump never threatened US aid for anything.
So now it's finally gotten around to Biden did get his son a job at Burisma ?? LOLWe went these over before.
Hunter got the high paying job with no experience. So?
Trump asking a favor to a foreign leader to investigate his political rival. Is not acceptable no matter how much you twist it. Trump is a piece of shit.
How is Kushner running around with out diplomatic experience? Don’t tell me he is doing it for free.
How is Guilliani a private citizen running around like a diplomat? Spreading corrupted propaganda. Don’t tell me he is doing it for free.
WTF does that have to do with it? Trump can hire anybody he wants.
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This is not about Joe hiring somebody. It's about getting favors from a foreign corrupt company. Favors are not granted out of kindness. People expect something in return. An email was discovered through the FOIA that showed one from Burisma, dropping Hunters name to curry favor from the State Department.
Impeachment is not for what you or others find acceptable or not. Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors, none of which Donald is part of.
Talking about hypocrite.
You mentioned Hunter unqualified and highly paid. I gave you an exact example of the same situations. You are full of cow dung.
I deal with hundreds of suppliers and vendors. So when I ask one of them to hire one of my nephews. That is a favor. Is that bad?
Biden ask Burisma to hire his son. Where did Biden violate any rules?
We don't know because it''s never been investigated. That's why Trump asked Zelensky to "look into it" as a favor. And if there is something that shows corruption, then Trump could have the IG look at that.
No, it's not bad if you ask a vendor to hire your nephew. But then again, you have no power to return the favor.
Wrong very wrong.
Asking a foreign leader a favor to dig dirt against his political rival. Is totally wrong.
You can twist however you want to protect this piece of shit president. That is not right.
I asked you a very simple reality question. Your answer is very wrong. Let me ask you again.
I deal with hundreds of vendors and suppliers regularly. If I asked one them a favor to hire my nephew.
Where and what law or any code of ethics did I violate?
Return back the favor? Giving them a contract.
Joe Biden got his son Hunter a job at Butisma. Tell me what law did he violate?
Trump getting his son inlaw a job unqualified. Is that also unacceptable?
WTF does that have to do with it? Trump can hire anybody he wants.
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This is not about Joe hiring somebody. It's about getting favors from a foreign corrupt company. Favors are not granted out of kindness. People expect something in return. An email was discovered through the FOIA that showed one from Burisma, dropping Hunters name to curry favor from the State Department.
Impeachment is not for what you or others find acceptable or not. Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors, none of which Donald is part of.
Talking about hypocrite.
You mentioned Hunter unqualified and highly paid. I gave you an exact example of the same situations. You are full of cow dung.
I deal with hundreds of suppliers and vendors. So when I ask one of them to hire one of my nephews. That is a favor. Is that bad?
Biden ask Burisma to hire his son. Where did Biden violate any rules?
We don't know because it''s never been investigated. That's why Trump asked Zelensky to "look into it" as a favor. And if there is something that shows corruption, then Trump could have the IG look at that.
No, it's not bad if you ask a vendor to hire your nephew. But then again, you have no power to return the favor.
Wrong very wrong.
Asking a foreign leader a favor to dig dirt against his political rival. Is totally wrong.
You can twist however you want to protect this piece of shit president. That is not right.
I asked you a very simple reality question. Your answer is very wrong. Let me ask you again.
I deal with hundreds of vendors and suppliers regularly. If I asked one them a favor to hire my nephew.
Where and what law or any code of ethics did I violate?
Return back the favor? Giving them a contract.
Joe Biden got his son Hunter a job at Butisma. Tell me what law did he violate?
Trump getting his son inlaw a job unqualified. Is that also unacceptable?
Why do you keep asking questions I or others have answered already?
Show me where Trump used the term Dig Dirt.
You people on the left are such hypocrites. On one hand, you're trying to make claim that what Joe did was perfectly fine and legal. On the other hand, you want to see Trump impeached for being accused of doing the exact same thing.
Joe asked for the prosecutor to be fired, he got it.
Trump asked for a favor to look into Burisma and Hunter, he never got it.
Joe threaten US aid to Ukraine.
Trump never threatened US aid for anything.
No you didn’t. You only going around to support your lie.
This is the problem when you’ve been listening too much of Hannity. Using technicalities of words...
Asking a favor from a foreign leader against his political enemies is wrong. Thus equivalent to dig dirt.
Do you want me to repeat it again?
Putin has got to be amused at how much you think America controls him and Russia in the world. Do you realize that Russia is a super power just like we are ??? Do you realize that they have some of the most power nukes in the world, just like we do ??Believed Putin over US Intel agenciesNo support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?
Debunked? LOL
Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.
Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.
Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
Mr Leshchenko and Ukraine’s anti-corruption bureau published a secret ledger this month that authorities claim show millions of dollars of off-the-book cash payments to Paul Manafort, Mr Trump’s campaign director, while he was advising Mr Yanukovich’s Regions party from 2005.
Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.
It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.
Other than releasing the American energy industry....which hurts putin
Telling NATO to pay for their militaries...which hurts putin.
Telling Germany to stop building a pipeline to Russia...which hurts putin.
Supplying the Ukraine with actual military weapons to fight russia...which hurts putin.
Killing russian soldiers in Syria...which hurts putin.
There are others, but those are off the top of my head.
Pulled out of Syria giving it to Putin
Wants Putin back in the G7
Offered Putin a free penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow.
Left the Russian election interference wide open for 2020
Ended a nuclear agreement to give Putin a green light to build new nukes
Ending a mutual fly over agreement to verify nuke agreements so Putin can make more nukes
Do you think that we can control or rule the world ??
In Trump's statement in defense of holding back Military Aid, he mentioned contributions to the Ukraine, not just military aid, "My complaint has always been — and I’d withhold again, and I’ll continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine," Trump said Sept. 24. "Because they’re not doing it. Just the United States. We’re putting up the bulk of the money. And I’m asking, why is that." He is speaking of financial aid, not just military aid. Financial aid to the Ukraine allows the government to free up funds for the military campaign where needed. US military aid is restricted to purchasing military hardware and training, from the US.EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.
There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.
When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they needed for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and a violation of the constitution.
Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted.
"EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost."
Notice how none of those "fact-checkers" doesn't say that those $16.4 billion are part of loans and guarantees that Ukraine will get as part of Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement. Every country that plans to enter EU or be partner with EU goes thru the same process, where EU is providing loans and aid to sync the economic, legal, environmental standards with those of EU.
For instance, Turkey is another country that is trying to enter EU and for that they receiving financial assistance under IPA II program. Every EU neighboring country goes to the same process, not just Ukraine.
Knowing this, please explain, how much of military aid EU provided to Ukraine?
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This planet has 7.5 billion people on it. Do you mean to tell me there is nothing corrupt about a VP's son getting the job when he was the least qualified out of all these people? Not only that, but the highest paid member on the board?
Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?
The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.
As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.
The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.
A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?
We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.
So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?
If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.
Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.
Hunter Biden - Wikipedia
FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?
Federal court documents prove Biden and Archer was paid 186,000 a month for at least 2 years. And the DOJ is looking into your conspiracy theory. We'll see what Durham turns up.
John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe
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Coming from these goons? Absolutely. Those were planted by Russian operatives to that was already debunked.
Don’t ever mentioned Barr to me here.He is no different from Guilliani personal lawyer... These are the REJECTS of the US government.
Good grief... Really bro ??? RotflmboPutin has got to be amused at how much you think America controls him and Russia in the world. Do you realize that Russia is a super power just like we are ??? Do you realize that they have some of the most power nukes in the world, just like we do ??Believed Putin over US Intel agenciesNo support for their claim that Trump was pro-Russia?Debunked? LOL
Ukraine placed bet on Hillary, and worked against Trump.
Here is Financial Times article from 2016. They proclaimed that Trump is "pro-Russian" without anything to support it and supported Hillary who was "pro-Ukrainian", because Barry send them blankets and MREs.
Ukraine’s leaders campaign against ‘pro-Putin’ Trump
Okay, Never mind his statement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory and lifting the sanctions against Russia if he were elected.
It's all moot now anyway. Trump is clearly all the way up inside Putin's Russian ass.
Other than releasing the American energy industry....which hurts putin
Telling NATO to pay for their militaries...which hurts putin.
Telling Germany to stop building a pipeline to Russia...which hurts putin.
Supplying the Ukraine with actual military weapons to fight russia...which hurts putin.
Killing russian soldiers in Syria...which hurts putin.
There are others, but those are off the top of my head.
Pulled out of Syria giving it to Putin
Wants Putin back in the G7
Offered Putin a free penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow.
Left the Russian election interference wide open for 2020
Ended a nuclear agreement to give Putin a green light to build new nukes
Ending a mutual fly over agreement to verify nuke agreements so Putin can make more nukes
Do you think that we can control or rule the world ??
In short according to you we should live under the rule of Russia and lover like Trump.
So because slow Joe is running for President, he's insulated from any suspicion of wrong doing? This is the problem: in spite of their beliefs, there is no Thought Police in the US. You cannot read minds or tell the future. Nobody, including Trump, knows who he's going to run against. Furthermore, Joe is so washed up that Biden getting the nomination would guarantee a Trump win.
This happened the other night. Slow Joe claimed to have the support from the only black woman in the Senate. Problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he made the claim.
Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.
What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.
Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.
Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.
I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.
EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.
There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.
When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they needed for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and a violation of the constitution.
Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted.
And when he mentioned the Bidens he said a lot of people want to know, he wasn't asking for himself. Of course you commies don't want that pointed out.
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Regardless of who want's to know, Donald Trump, a presidential candidate is asking a president of a foreign country to open an investigation of another presidential candidate. That is a violation of our election laws and a violation of article 1 section 9 of the constitution.
So because slow Joe is running for President, he's insulated from any suspicion of wrong doing? This is the problem: in spite of their beliefs, there is no Thought Police in the US. You cannot read minds or tell the future. Nobody, including Trump, knows who he's going to run against. Furthermore, Joe is so washed up that Biden getting the nomination would guarantee a Trump win.
This happened the other night. Slow Joe claimed to have the support from the only black woman in the Senate. Problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he made the claim.
Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.
What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.
Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.
Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.
I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.
Too early to say any of what, who and not the nominee.
One thing for sure. Trump and his cartels are afraid of Biden.
You proved it here. That you and the rest of your buddies here are ALL scared of Biden will beat Trump. I mean ALL of you are scared of Biden. Look at the the way you attack Biden.
Biden is an old fool. He can't get through one week without making a fool out of himself. Trump would rip him to pieces.
Last week they had the debates, as if anybody knew about it. Joe stood there and said he had the support from the only black female Senator. Good lie, but the problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he said it.
Of course watching MSM, I doubt you know about things like this. But Biden can't even remember what state he's in.
Nah! We I mean WE can see it here how you and the rest of Trumpy supporters are so scared of Biden. Non stop attack on false information is a clear evidence all of you are scared of Biden..
Why do you think this reject president is going through all these crisis going after Biden?
GO BIDEN.
He is still asking a foreign country to investigate a candidate running for the same office he is running. Whether he wants Zenlensky to coordinate the investigation with the AG is immaterial.Trump should not be asking the Ukraine or any country for an investigation targeting any presidential candidate because it’s violates our election laws. It is perfectly legal for him to ask the Ukraine to investigate corruption in their country as long as he does not include any presidential candidate in that request.EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.
What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.
Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.
Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.
I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.
There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.
When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and if the request is coming from president, it's violation of constitution.
Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted. There would been no case of impeachment.
Then what you are saying is that even if Biden exercised corruption, he is immune from requests of an investigation simply because he is one of 30 people running for the nomination????? How ridiculous is that?
Now find me the word "investigation" in that phone transcript please. Trump never said anything about Biden's candidacy nor election. The commies just decided to use it as an excuse to conduct a phony impeachment hearing. When you on the left can come up with empirical evidence as to why Trump asked that favor, then bring impeachment charges. But they can't legitimately bring such charges based on what the commies thought Trump meant.
Again, this is a Thought Police impeachment.
Whether Biden violated Ukraine law is a Ukrainian issue, not a US issue. Had Trump simply ask for an investigation of corruption in the Ukraine and left it to Guilana to pressure Zenlinsky to make a public statement and focus on Biden, we wouldn’t be discussing this now.
Again, there is no doubt that Trump conveyed his desire for an investigation to Zelensky. Zelensky mention the investigation 6 times in their July 25 phone conversation in response to Trump’s request. Equally clear is the fact that Trump wanted that investigation to include Biden. In that phone conversation Trump said, “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.” This is not hearsay evidence and there is no need to guess at what Trump meant or is asking for because he's telling us. If you're claiming Trump was not asking for an investigation of Biden or Trump's intent is unclear, you're see this through GOP colored glasses.
Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky - CNNPolitics
He asked for cooperation with the AG, you have it in bold right there. And the AG is looking into it.
John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe
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You don’t have any evidence that Biden was corrupt.
But we have a very very clear evidence that Trump is very corrupt. That’s a fact jack.
This planet has 7.5 billion people on it. Do you mean to tell me there is nothing corrupt about a VP's son getting the job when he was the least qualified out of all these people? Not only that, but the highest paid member on the board?
Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?
The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.
As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.
The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.
A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?
We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.
So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?
If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.
Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.
Hunter Biden - Wikipedia
FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?
I'm going by what some are estimating it at. But WTF is the difference? He's still a drug addict getting paid to sit on a board of a company he had no experience in.
*** And a few weeks ago, they got an email from Burisma to the State Department, and in the email, they dropped Hunters name trying to gain favor of the department.
In Trump's statement in defense of holding back Military Aid, he was mentioned contributions to the Ukraine, not just military aid, "My complaint has always been — and I’d withhold again, and I’ll continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine," Trump said Sept. 24. "Because they’re not doing it. Just the United States. We’re putting up the bulk of the money. And I’m asking, why is that." He is speaking of financial aid, not just military aid. Financial aid to the Ukraine allows the government to free up funds for the military campaign where needed. US military aid is restricted to purchasing military hardware and training, from the US.EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.
There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.
When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they needed for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."
If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and a violation of the constitution.
Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted.
"EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost."
Notice how none of those "fact-checkers" doesn't say that those $16.4 billion are part of loans and guarantees that Ukraine will get as part of Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement. Every country that plans to enter EU or be partner with EU goes thru the same process, where EU is providing loans and aid to sync the economic, legal, environmental standards with those of EU.
For instance, Turkey is another country that is trying to enter EU and for that they receiving financial assistance under IPA II program. Every EU neighboring country goes to the same process, not just Ukraine.
Knowing this, please explain, how much of military aid EU provided to Ukraine?
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Here’s what you need to know about the US aid package to Ukraine that Trump delayed
