Offical Impeachment Thread

[Ray From Cleveland]

This planet has 7.5 billion people on it. Do you mean to tell me there is nothing corrupt about a VP's son getting the job when he was the least qualified out of all these people? Not only that, but the highest paid member on the board?

Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?

The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.

As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.

The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.

A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?

We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.

So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?

If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.

Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.

Hunter Biden - Wikipedia

FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?

I'm going by what some are estimating it at. But WTF is the difference? He's still a drug addict getting paid to sit on a board of a company he had no experience in.

*** And a few weeks ago, they got an email from Burisma to the State Department, and in the email, they dropped Hunters name trying to gain favor of the department.

I already blasted you on your first paragraph.

*** BTW. Any link of this lie?

There are several of them. If you don't like the one I'm posting, just let me know. I'll get other sources if you'd like.

Emails Reveal Burisma Consulting Firm Leveraged Hunter Biden To Get State Dept. Meetings

 

[Faun]

You don’t have any evidence that Biden was corrupt.
But we have a very very clear evidence that Trump is very corrupt. That’s a fact jack.

This planet has 7.5 billion people on it. Do you mean to tell me there is nothing corrupt about a VP's son getting the job when he was the least qualified out of all these people? Not only that, but the highest paid member on the board?

Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?

The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.

As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.

The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.

A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?

We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.

So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?

If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.

Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.

Hunter Biden - Wikipedia

FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?

Federal court documents prove Biden and Archer was paid 186,000 a month for at least 2 years. And the DOJ is looking into your conspiracy theory. We'll see what Durham turns up.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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Did you even read your link? It has nothing at all to do with the Bidens.

 

[Zorro!]

Schiffy is getting nervous.

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I agree, Schiff has consistently ignored how ridiculous this process is under his leadership...NO serious person would do to this country what he is doing.

And he is failing even more miserably that Fat Jerry with this Mueller testimony disaster.

SCHIFF SHOW FAILS: Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents.

“The new poll found 49 percent oppose impeachment compared to 34 percent who support it. In October, 48 percent of independents polled supported impeachment, against 39 percent who opposed. Since October, Emerson has found Trump’s job approval rating jump by 5 points, from 43 percent to 48 percent.”​

And in another Poll: Trump Approval Rating Hits Net Positive As Support For Impeachment Plummets.

NUNES is wetting his pants
Devin Nunes was directly involved in the push for Biden Ukraine investigations, says Lev Parnas
Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudy Giuliani, says he helped arrange meetings between Nunes and Ukrainians.

Nunes is doing his job regardless, and this is his job to investigate corruption.

That's right. Dems get very uptight about this, because the investigation into the corrupt interference with the 2016 election appears to have been orchestrated by the Obama Administration and the attempts to drive Trump from office, their insurance policy in the unlikely event he was elected, has been carried out by Obama's leftovers.

But, their problem is that the President Electorate selects our President, not Obama/Clinton/Biden and the Deep State and removal of a President require broad bipartisan consensus, and broad bipartisan consensus requires overwhelming courtroom quality evidence of Treason, Bribery or other High Crimes, not this hearsay crap and staff pissed off that the boss doesn't agree with them.

The difficulty of successfully removing a duly elected president makes it absolutely imperative that there must be a broad consensus of politically accountable Senators that agree that the misconduct is outrageous enough to warrant removal.

In order to prevent bitter partisans from removing a duly elected President over policy disagreements or personal dislike, the Framers made removal extraordinarily difficult. Two-thirds of senators must vote to convict. In a self-determining republic, the electoral process should decide who the president is; and our Framers came very close to dispensing with an impeachment remedy entirely and allowing elections alone to decide whether a president should be maintained in office. This notion was abandoned owing to the need to ensure that a traitorous president could be removed before doing mortal damage. But the sentiment remained that, except in cases of indisputable high-level malfeasance, it was for the people, not a legislative process, to remove the chief executive.

The Constitution’s impeachment formula ensures that no president will be ousted from office unless his misconduct is so blatantly condemnable and disqualifying that a public consensus for removal forms — one so strong that it drives a supermajority of senators to convict, regardless of their partisan or ideological ties.

Unless the President engages in misconduct that spurs a consensus that the president is unfit, he will not be removed and should not be impeached.

In this instance the President has not engaged in such conduct and there is nothing even remotely resembling and broad bipartisan consensus that he should be removed from power. Indeed, we are in an election year and if the Presidential Electorate does not want him to continue, they will so state and his presidency will end.

House Democrats allege that the president exploited his foreign-relations power to pressure Ukraine’s government to conduct a corruption investigation of a potential 2020 Democratic opponent, former vice president Joe Biden, largely based on the lavish compensation paid to Biden’s son Hunter by a corrupt energy company while Biden was point-man for Obama-administration Ukraine policy. Despite the palpable conflict of interest, the vice president, during a visit to Ukraine, demanded that then-president Petro Poroshenko either fire a prosecutor who was investigating the energy company or forfeit $1 billion in financial aid. As Biden himself later recounted, in a 2018 panel discussion at an event for Foreign Affairs:

“I said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor’s not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of bitch, he got fired.”​

(Democrats contend that the prosecutor was corrupt and that Biden was carrying out administration policy, not protecting his son.)

President Trump also wanted Zelensky to get to the bottom of Ukraine’s role in the Obama administration’s 2016 investigation of the Trump campaign. Potential abuses of power in that investigation are currently under investigation by the Justice Department. Trump is alleged to have made Ukraine’s investigative help on the Bidens and on 2016 the price tag — the quid pro quo — for the release of nearly $400 million in congressionally authorized military aid that Kyiv needed to defend itself against Russian aggression, and for a White House visit sought by Zelensky. Ultimately, though, the defense aid was transmitted, Trump met with Zelensky and Ukraine was not required to investigate the Bidens.

Most Democrats look at this transaction and discern a blatant impeachable offense: bribery. They also see executive abuse that amounts to high crimes and misdemeanors: the leveraging of presidential power for partisan political advantage (something that, ironically, Democrats were indifferent to when the issue was the Obama administration’s investigation of the Trump campaign).

Most Republicans look at the Ukraine discussions and see much ado about nothing. Ukraine got the defense funding and, for the most part, did not even know its transfer was in doubt. The president did not force Ukraine to investigate the Bidens to get the funds; even if he had done so, the statute authorizing the funding requires the executive branch to ensure that Kyiv is rooting out corruption.

Trump also wanted Ukraine’s assistance in the DOJ probe of the origins of the 2016 Trump–Russia investigation, such requests are routine and consistent with the Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance that has been in place for two decades. The fact that such investigations might have helped Trump politically is beside the point. Trump defenders note that incumbent presidents seeking reelection routinely use foreign policy to their advantage.

Democrats see impeachment as a legalistic matter: They think they can show bribery because, under federal statutory law, a completed bribe is not necessary for the crime to have occurred; a corrupt demand suffices for conviction. The Constitution says that bribery triggers impeachment. Q.E.D.

Republicans recognize that the bribery the Framers contemplated was not technical transgression of a federal penal statute (there was none at the time); it was a president’s traitorous sale of the office, which is not close to what was contemplated here, much less what happened. Further, even if the bribery statute did apply to impeachment, corrupt intent could not be proved, because the president is duty-bound to encourage anti-corruption efforts by foreign governments that receive U.S. taxpayer dollars.

Only Democrats are trying to inflate the Ukraine disagreement into an impeachable offense. It is being framed as an impeachable wrong only by partisans who decided that Donald Trump was unfit before he ever darkened the Oval Office doorstep, and who have spent three years groping for a misconduct hook on which to hang their predetermination that Trump should never have been elected.

That is exactly the factional abuse of impeachment power the Framers rejected and undertook to prevent by requiring broad-based political consensus. On the exhaustively analyzed facts of Trump-administration dealings with Ukraine, there is no such consensus — and there never will be.

Impeachment Requires Consensus | National Review

 

[charwin95]

Trump openly admitted to doing precisely that.
Multiple witnesses said he did precisely that, as well.

But Ukraine president said he didn't....You fucks just can't handle the truth!

it means nothing that Zelenskyy claimed publicly that there was no quid pro quo on the part of Trump. It only means that it would be unwise for the Ukrainian president to criticize the U.S. president.

There was no quid pro quo. Your hatred for the President is noted.

That is not what Sondland admitted at the hearing.

He did when one of the Republican ranking members told him to quote what the President told him. And after his memory had been refreshed by Jim Jordan, he parrotted the reading from the phone call replayed. The President said effectively, "I want nothing. I want nothing. No quid pro quo." You'd know that if you ever bothered to listen to the phone call that was also recorded and replayed on a conservative news program whihc your fellow democrats constantly diss, even when it is obvious the tape is authentic. Sondland parrotted exactly what the president said, and he remembered it well, but not until a Republican House member questioned him. That changed the entire morning arranged quotations by Democrats trying to conceal what the President Donald Trump actually said by avoiding it entirely and making certain it was not placed in Sondland's 22 pages of opening testimony papers, for which the Republicans jumped on this tangled web weaver like ugly on an ape, which Sondland a lot more than deserved for concealing the actual words of President Trump all morning long. But Jim Jordan wasn't worried. he had the actual tape, and he reminded everyone what the president said in a way they couldn't ignore it.

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It doesn’t matter what Jordan, Nunes or you said. It doesn’t matter.

What matter is he admitted there is quid pro quo.

You people are bunch of LIARS.

 

[charwin95]

It all started with Trump when on July 25, he ask Zelensky for this little favor of investigating the Bidens. The most shocking part of this is that Trump saw absolutely nothing wrong in asking a foreign goverment to investigate a candidate for president that he will most likely face in the next election. If the Senate fails to convict Trump which is almost certain, the biggest celebration will not be in the White House but in Moscow.

So because slow Joe is running for President, he's insulated from any suspicion of wrong doing? This is the problem: in spite of their beliefs, there is no Thought Police in the US. You cannot read minds or tell the future. Nobody, including Trump, knows who he's going to run against. Furthermore, Joe is so washed up that Biden getting the nomination would guarantee a Trump win.

This happened the other night. Slow Joe claimed to have the support from the only black woman in the Senate. Problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he made the claim.

Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.

What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.

Damn, you're full of crap, if quid pro joe withheld US loan guarantees to interfere in the internal affairs of a foreign government, which he publicly admitted to BTW, he is as guilty of bribery as you claim Trump to be. That would make Trumps request justified and blow the shit out your narrative.

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False.
There’s a very big difference.

Joe fired a well known corrupted prosecutor general Shokin. Or you don’t get the money.

Trump asking a favor from a foreign leader to dig dirt against his political enemies is totally WRONG or you don’t get the money.

Big difference.

You obviously lack an understanding of english. Trump told Zelensky that a lot of people want to know about the Bidens activities in Ukraine, he didn't say I want to know. There's a difference there you and most of your commie ilk don't seem to understand. So run along fool and learn the language.

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Wrong. Try again.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But Ukraine president said he didn't....You fucks just can't handle the truth!

it means nothing that Zelenskyy claimed publicly that there was no quid pro quo on the part of Trump. It only means that it would be unwise for the Ukrainian president to criticize the U.S. president.

There was no quid pro quo. Your hatred for the President is noted.

That is not what Sondland admitted at the hearing.

He did when one of the Republican ranking members told him to quote what the President told him. And after his memory had been refreshed by Jim Jordan, he parrotted the reading from the phone call replayed. The President said effectively, "I want nothing. I want nothing. No quid pro quo." You'd know that if you ever bothered to listen to the phone call that was also recorded and replayed on a conservative news program whihc your fellow democrats constantly diss, even when it is obvious the tape is authentic. Sondland parrotted exactly what the president said, and he remembered it well, but not until a Republican House member questioned him. That changed the entire morning arranged quotations by Democrats trying to conceal what the President Donald Trump actually said by avoiding it entirely and making certain it was not placed in Sondland's 22 pages of opening testimony papers, for which the Republicans jumped on this tangled web weaver like ugly on an ape, which Sondland a lot more than deserved for concealing the actual words of President Trump all morning long. But Jim Jordan wasn't worried. he had the actual tape, and he reminded everyone what the president said in a way they couldn't ignore it.

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It doesn’t matter what Jordan, Nunes or you said. It doesn’t matter.

What matter is he admitted there is quid pro quo.

You people are bunch of LIARS.

What he said is "he thought" there was a quid pro quo. What he thought does not mean it was ordered by Trump. You can't impeach a President justifiably by what somebody else thought they were doing. The exact words from Trump to Soundland were No Quid Pro Quo's.

 

[charwin95]

Jesus fuck you people are dumnber than shit.

How often has Ivanka or Jared ride on AF1? When Trump was dealing with China, both Donnie & Ivanka were getting copyrights for their businesses.

That is corruption.

Joe Biden acted along with other countries to remove a prosecutor. (there was no active barisma investigation at that time)

Hunter Biden was never being investigated.

You God damn stupid fucks need to start caring more about Amerca than that Conman you elected President.

When I want your advice I'll ask for it.................Biden is dirty...........He was hooking up his son with his position while Ukrainians were dying in the field against Russia............

If he's so great, why wasn't he there arranging anti tank missiles to KILL RUSSIANS............You have for years said TRUMP RUSSIA..............yet your own side sent MRE's instead of weapons while people were dying........

Your party is a JOKE...........Biden is a Joke........and so is this investigation............

Wow, whje caught lying, you just increase the lying. Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter getting that job.

You are a joke, Trump Boy.

Correct, Hunter just answered a want ad in the paper:

LARGE ENERGY COMPANY LOOKING FOR BOARD MEMBER. NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, NO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE. LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE WITH SEVERE DRUG PROBLEMS, PREFERABLY KICKED OUT OF THE MILITARY AND ATTENDED MULTIPLE REHAB CLINICS.

You are just unbelievable full of crap.

Drug problems of Hunter was way before he became a board members and work prestigious companies here in US ..... before he joined Burisma.

Like I told you before board member of a company like Gas or Coal, Exxon, Gold..... it’s very very easy. You don’t have to mix chemicals.

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Prove to me where I lied.

Prove where Hunter roaming homeless encampments in Ca looking for crack in 2015. PROVE IT.

I know lots of Trump supporters are bunch LIARS like this pathological liar president.

 

[Zorro!]

Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.

What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.

Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.

Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.

I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.

EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.

There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.

When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and if the request is coming from president, it's violation of constitution.

Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted. There would been no case of impeachment.

Then what you are saying is that even if Biden exercised corruption, he is immune from requests of an investigation simply because he is one of 30 people running for the nomination????? How ridiculous is that?

Now find me the word "investigation" in that phone transcript please. Trump never said anything about Biden's candidacy nor election. The commies just decided to use it as an excuse to conduct a phony impeachment hearing. When you on the left can come up with empirical evidence as to why Trump asked that favor, then bring impeachment charges. But they can't legitimately bring such charges based on what the commies thought Trump meant.

Again, this is a Thought Police impeachment.

Trump should not be asking the Ukraine or any country for an investigation targeting any presidential candidate because it’s violates our election laws. It is perfectly legal for him to ask the Ukraine to investigate corruption in their country as long as he does not include any presidential candidate in that request.

Whether Biden violated Ukraine law is a Ukrainian issue, not a US issue. Had Trump simply ask for an investigation of corruption in the Ukraine and left it to Guilana to pressure Zenlinsky to make a public statement and focus on Biden, we wouldn’t be discussing this now.

Again, there is no doubt that Trump conveyed his desire for an investigation to Zelensky. Zelensky mention the investigation 6 times in their July 25 phone conversation in response to Trump’s request. Equally clear is the fact that Trump wanted that investigation to include Biden. In that phone conversation Trump said, “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.” This is not hearsay evidence and there is no need to guess at what Trump meant or is asking for because he's telling us. If you're claiming Trump was not asking for an investigation of Biden or Trump's intent is unclear, you're see this through GOP colored glasses.

Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky - CNNPolitics

He asked for cooperation with the AG, you have it in bold right there. And the AG is looking into it.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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It's consistent with our 2 decade old mutual assistance treaty to request this assistance, and, the Congressional Authorization for the aid REQUIRED the President to make sure that Ukraine was rooting out its endemic corruption. The only people trying to whip this into an impeachment are the same clowns who have never accepted the decision of The Electorate that resulted in Trump's 2016 victory.

 

[OKTexas]

Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.

What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.

Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.

Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.

I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.

Too early to say any of what, who and not the nominee.

One thing for sure. Trump and his cartels are afraid of Biden.

You proved it here. That you and the rest of your buddies here are ALL scared of Biden will beat Trump. I mean ALL of you are scared of Biden. Look at the the way you attack Biden.

Biden is an old fool. He can't get through one week without making a fool out of himself. Trump would rip him to pieces.

Last week they had the debates, as if anybody knew about it. Joe stood there and said he had the support from the only black female Senator. Good lie, but the problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he said it.

Of course watching MSM, I doubt you know about things like this. But Biden can't even remember what state he's in.

Nah! We I mean WE can see it here how you and the rest of Trumpy supporters are so scared of Biden. Non stop attack on false information is a clear evidence all of you are scared of Biden..

Why do you think this reject president is going through all these crisis going after Biden?

GO BIDEN.

Why? Because Trump did nothing wrong, and he knows it. He would have never released the transcript if he thought he was doing something wrong. And don't give me this nonsense he didn't know any better. I'm sure he ran this across his legal team before allowing the transcript to go public. Therefore he didn't expect the Democrats to lie so much to try and make this a crisis.

When the Democrats found out Trump was on to something wrong, they went into Defcon 1 mode. They had to react quickly, because there is something to this. They know it. There is no way you're going to tell me that out of all the people in the world, Burisma chose Hunter for his expertise in Ukrainian energy. Not only selected for the board, but the highest paid position on the board. He doesn't even know their language.

The only people scared here are the Democrats. They are trying to keep Trump away from something in the Ukraine deal.

Not only did Trump run it by his lawyers, he ran it by the DOJ criminal division and government integrity division, they found nothing wrong. Of course the commies are saying all career people in the DOJ are corrupt as well.

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[charwin95]

Talking about hypocrite.
You mentioned Hunter unqualified and highly paid. I gave you an exact example of the same situations. You are full of cow dung.

I deal with hundreds of suppliers and vendors. So when I ask one of them to hire one of my nephews. That is a favor. Is that bad?

Biden ask Burisma to hire his son. Where did Biden violate any rules?

We don't know because it''s never been investigated. That's why Trump asked Zelensky to "look into it" as a favor. And if there is something that shows corruption, then Trump could have the IG look at that.

No, it's not bad if you ask a vendor to hire your nephew. But then again, you have no power to return the favor.

Wrong very wrong.
Asking a foreign leader a favor to dig dirt against his political rival. Is totally wrong.
You can twist however you want to protect this piece of shit president. That is not right.

I asked you a very simple reality question. Your answer is very wrong. Let me ask you again.

I deal with hundreds of vendors and suppliers regularly. If I asked one them a favor to hire my nephew.
Where and what law or any code of ethics did I violate?
Return back the favor? Giving them a contract.

Joe Biden got his son Hunter a job at Butisma. Tell me what law did he violate?

Trump getting his son inlaw a job unqualified. Is that also unacceptable?

Why do you keep asking questions I or others have answered already?

Show me where Trump used the term Dig Dirt.

You people on the left are such hypocrites. On one hand, you're trying to make claim that what Joe did was perfectly fine and legal. On the other hand, you want to see Trump impeached for being accused of doing the exact same thing.

Joe asked for the prosecutor to be fired, he got it.
Trump asked for a favor to look into Burisma and Hunter, he never got it.

Joe threaten US aid to Ukraine.
Trump never threatened US aid for anything.

No you didn’t. You only going around to support your lie.
This is the problem when you’ve been listening too much of Hannity. Using technicalities of words...

Asking a favor from a foreign leader against his political enemies is wrong. Thus equivalent to dig dirt.

Do you want me to repeat it again?

You have no idea WTF you're talking about. Digging up dirt means to create phony evidence. Finding real evidence is only digging up truth. Biden is not his political opponent. We won't know who his opponent will be for a couple of months, so this charge that Trump is doing this to gain favor in the election is an utter lie. Biden is not his rival, and likely will not be.

Deeeenng. You are right. Digging dirt is create a phony evidence. WOW I’m so impressed with your brilliance.

Crap...... there are no evidence Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine. NONE. Except phony evidence. Then only people like you and corrupted president planted that.

Why do you even think Trump will get Biden involved with his corruptions if he wasn’t scared of Biden?

 

[OKTexas]

Biden is not the nominee, and it's likely he won't be. This charge that Trump stalled the aid for political advantage requires a crystal ball that tells us Biden will be the nominee.

Trump gave several reasons for stopping the aid, including the lack of funds from other UN countries. You can't make the case it's a false concern given the fact he ran on the UN skipping out on their equal share during the Republican debates. Nor can you make the case that it was the rat who forced Trump to act, when it's clear and documented that Congress critters from both sides were applying the pressure.

I don't recall Trump ever using the term "start an investigation" The key words he used were "look into it" and "favor." The dictionary term for favor is doing something out of good will without remuneration.

EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.

There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.

When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and if the request is coming from president, it's violation of constitution.

Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted. There would been no case of impeachment.

Then what you are saying is that even if Biden exercised corruption, he is immune from requests of an investigation simply because he is one of 30 people running for the nomination????? How ridiculous is that?

Now find me the word "investigation" in that phone transcript please. Trump never said anything about Biden's candidacy nor election. The commies just decided to use it as an excuse to conduct a phony impeachment hearing. When you on the left can come up with empirical evidence as to why Trump asked that favor, then bring impeachment charges. But they can't legitimately bring such charges based on what the commies thought Trump meant.

Again, this is a Thought Police impeachment.

Trump should not be asking the Ukraine or any country for an investigation targeting any presidential candidate because it’s violates our election laws. It is perfectly legal for him to ask the Ukraine to investigate corruption in their country as long as he does not include any presidential candidate in that request.

Whether Biden violated Ukraine law is a Ukrainian issue, not a US issue. Had Trump simply ask for an investigation of corruption in the Ukraine and left it to Guilana to pressure Zenlinsky to make a public statement and focus on Biden, we wouldn’t be discussing this now.

Again, there is no doubt that Trump conveyed his desire for an investigation to Zelensky. Zelensky mention the investigation 6 times in their July 25 phone conversation in response to Trump’s request. Equally clear is the fact that Trump wanted that investigation to include Biden. In that phone conversation Trump said, “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.” This is not hearsay evidence and there is no need to guess at what Trump meant or is asking for because he's telling us. If you're claiming Trump was not asking for an investigation of Biden or Trump's intent is unclear, you're see this through GOP colored glasses.

Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky - CNNPolitics

He asked for cooperation with the AG, you have it in bold right there. And the AG is looking into it.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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He is still asking a foreign country to investigate a candidate running for the same office he is running. Whether he wants Zenlensky to coordinate the investigation with the AG is immaterial.

Yeah right, he's complying with the treaty, and once again he wasn't asking for himself, the way he phrased it, he was asking for the people. Words have meaning, stop trying to twist what he said. You're no better than that lying assed shitt.

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[charwin95]

Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?

The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.

As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.

The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.

A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?

We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.

So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?

If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.

Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.

Hunter Biden - Wikipedia

FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?

Federal court documents prove Biden and Archer was paid 186,000 a month for at least 2 years. And the DOJ is looking into your conspiracy theory. We'll see what Durham turns up.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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Coming from these goons? Absolutely. Those were planted by Russian operatives to that was already debunked.

Don’t ever mentioned Barr to me here.He is no different from Guilliani personal lawyer... These are the REJECTS of the US government.

Damn fool, Guilliani is a former federal prosecutor who has a history of busting organized crime, and Barr was the AG before. He is now the 85th AG, but he was also the 77th AG under G.H.W. Bush and was confirmed by the senate 99-0. Why don't you go back to your fucking shit hoe, you'll love it there.

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True but that doesn’t mean he is not corrupted and stupid.

Let me enlighten your stupidity. You have this personal lawyer Guilliani running around doing state department job instructed by Trump. Just about every witness at the hearing despise and trashed this despicable lawyer Guilliani.

Then go on national tv broadcasting what he is doing stupidly.
With the information coming from a fired corrupted prosecutor general Shokin.
So tell me how fucking stupid these goons are?

 

[Faun]

EU countries have provide the Ukraine 16.4 billion dollars over the last 4 years. They are certainly providing their share of the cost.

There is no doubt that Zelensky understood Trump wanted an investigation. 6 times in the phone conversation he refers to an investigation.

When Trump began the following discussion of Biden in his request for investigation, he gave democrats the ammunition they for an impeachment. "There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

If Trump had just ask Zelensky for an investigation of corruption, then there would be no evidence for impeachment in the call. Once he made it clear he wanted Biden investigated, he gave the democrats an article of impeachment. A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a candidate for president, That's a violation of election law and if the request is coming from president, it's violation of constitution.

Had Trump simply ask Zelensky to open an investigation of corruption, talk to Rudy about it, and not mentioned Biden, we would not be discussing this call and there would have been no impeachment investigation. Giuliani could have directed Zelensky to focus on Biden, make public statements and give Trump exactly what he wanted. There would been no case of impeachment.

Then what you are saying is that even if Biden exercised corruption, he is immune from requests of an investigation simply because he is one of 30 people running for the nomination????? How ridiculous is that?

Now find me the word "investigation" in that phone transcript please. Trump never said anything about Biden's candidacy nor election. The commies just decided to use it as an excuse to conduct a phony impeachment hearing. When you on the left can come up with empirical evidence as to why Trump asked that favor, then bring impeachment charges. But they can't legitimately bring such charges based on what the commies thought Trump meant.

Again, this is a Thought Police impeachment.

Trump should not be asking the Ukraine or any country for an investigation targeting any presidential candidate because it’s violates our election laws. It is perfectly legal for him to ask the Ukraine to investigate corruption in their country as long as he does not include any presidential candidate in that request.

Whether Biden violated Ukraine law is a Ukrainian issue, not a US issue. Had Trump simply ask for an investigation of corruption in the Ukraine and left it to Guilana to pressure Zenlinsky to make a public statement and focus on Biden, we wouldn’t be discussing this now.

Again, there is no doubt that Trump conveyed his desire for an investigation to Zelensky. Zelensky mention the investigation 6 times in their July 25 phone conversation in response to Trump’s request. Equally clear is the fact that Trump wanted that investigation to include Biden. In that phone conversation Trump said, “There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.” This is not hearsay evidence and there is no need to guess at what Trump meant or is asking for because he's telling us. If you're claiming Trump was not asking for an investigation of Biden or Trump's intent is unclear, you're see this through GOP colored glasses.

Read the transcript of Trump's conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky - CNNPolitics

He asked for cooperation with the AG, you have it in bold right there. And the AG is looking into it.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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He is still asking a foreign country to investigate a candidate running for the same office he is running. Whether he wants Zenlensky to coordinate the investigation with the AG is immaterial.

Yeah right, he's complying with the treaty, and once again he wasn't asking for himself, the was he phrased it, he was asking for the people. Words have meaning, stop trying to twist what he said. You're no better than that lying assed shitt.

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Bullshit, he wasn't complying with the treaty. The treaty states our Attorney General is to make requests to their Ministry of Justice. The treaty states requests shall include the name of the authority looking into the investigation, proceeding or prosecution related to the request.

None of that happened.

 

[Doc7505]

State Department Releases Detailed Accounts Of Biden-Ukraine Corruption​

State Department Releases Detailed Accounts Of Biden-Ukraine Corruption | Zero Hedge
24 Nov 19 ~~ A liberal watchdog group's attempt to nail Rudy Giuliani has backfired in spectacular fashion after their FOIA request resulted in the US State Department releasing detailed accusations of corruption against the Bidens' - based on interviews with former Ukrainian officials who were in charge of the investigations. Responding to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit from the group American Oversight, the State Department on Friday night released almost 100 pages of records detailing efforts by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani to investigate corruption, which include contacts with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) earlier this year.
While American Oversight's 'gotcha' is that Giuliani had "multiple contacts" with Mike Pompeo and others while investigating Ukraine corruption, they completely ignore interview notes containing detailed allegations by former Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin - who Joe Biden had fired, as well as his successor, prosecutor general Yuriy Lutsenko - While seated as the Minister he approved two addition entities to receive permits for gas exploration; Mr. Zlochevsky was the owner of two secret companies that were part of Burisma Holdings and gave those companies permits which made it possible for him to profit while he was the sitting Minister. "Mr. Lutsenko went on to explain that there is a unit called Specialized Anticorruption Prosecutor's Office (SAP) which has under its purview National Anticorruption Bureau Ukraine (NABU) which investigates corruption cases that involved public figures from Mayors upward. He stated that the current US Ambassador protects SAP and NABU, adding "His office has absolutely no control over SAP or NABU and can’t even ask what they are working on however they fall under his "control." Of note, NABU was established in October 2014 "by Mr. George Kent who was the Deputy Chief to the Mission in Ukraine."

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Comment:
I don't know why, but there are indeed still some Journalists, Scientists, and even politicians with integrity, and balls to speak up. Although there are times that I think they're like hens teeth....
According to Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats, it's not a crime to use your political influence to embezzle taxpayer money . . . it's a crime to investigate it.Hmm...., I wonder if the LSMSM will be reporting this? Meanwhile, how many Congress persons are not millionaires after their second or third terms in Congress/Senate?
So the PMS/DSA Democrats are impeaching Trump for what Joe Biden actually did. This makes as much sense as anything else they do.
Hmm..., Can you imagine how much it galled the State Department to have to cough up these tasty little tidbits? To think the FOIA request was looking for dirt on Rudy. Be careful what you ask for.
The extreme power that the LSMSM holds over public opinion is not a joke, and therefore they are guilty of at the least tainting possible jurors, and at the most taking payoffs from the PMS/DSA DNC, Soros and the rest of the rats. At some point in time the biased LSMSM must be held accountable. To hold a license to broadcast comes with rules and regulations that have something to do with fair and accurate reporting. This has gone far beyond what was once called yellow journalism.

 

[OKTexas]

This planet has 7.5 billion people on it. Do you mean to tell me there is nothing corrupt about a VP's son getting the job when he was the least qualified out of all these people? Not only that, but the highest paid member on the board?

Talking about corrupt. Why don’t you start with your Boi Trump?

The only idiots that keeps talking about Biden and his son committed corruption are Trump supporters. Nobody else.

As far as unqualified. Trump is inept and most unqualified president. The whole world knows that.

The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.

A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?

We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.

So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?

If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.

Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.

Hunter Biden - Wikipedia

FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?

Federal court documents prove Biden and Archer was paid 186,000 a month for at least 2 years. And the DOJ is looking into your conspiracy theory. We'll see what Durham turns up.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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Did you even read your link? It has nothing at all to do with the Bidens.

Sure I did. They weren't the only conspiracy theory the foreign commie referred to. He and his comrades are claiming Ukraine did nothing to attempt to interfere with the 2016 election, despite links provided to the contrary.

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[OKTexas]

So because slow Joe is running for President, he's insulated from any suspicion of wrong doing? This is the problem: in spite of their beliefs, there is no Thought Police in the US. You cannot read minds or tell the future. Nobody, including Trump, knows who he's going to run against. Furthermore, Joe is so washed up that Biden getting the nomination would guarantee a Trump win.

This happened the other night. Slow Joe claimed to have the support from the only black woman in the Senate. Problem was, he was standing right next to Harris when he made the claim.

Whether "Slow Joe" is guilty of any wrong doing is totally irrelevant in the Trump impeachment and here's why. A president running for re-election can not ask a foreign government to open an investigation against another candidate without violating our election laws as well as Article 1 Section 9 of the constitution and thus a violation of oath of office, unless his intent has nothing to do with discrediting his political opponent.

What it all boils down to is the intent of the president. If his sole reason for pressuring the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens is his desire to eliminate corruption in the Ukraine, then his actions are justified. However, from the direct evidence presented in the House investigation as well as comments by Trump himself, it makes it doubtful that his real intent is cleaning up corruption in the Ukraine and not to discrediting Biden.

Damn, you're full of crap, if quid pro joe withheld US loan guarantees to interfere in the internal affairs of a foreign government, which he publicly admitted to BTW, he is as guilty of bribery as you claim Trump to be. That would make Trumps request justified and blow the shit out your narrative.

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False.
There’s a very big difference.

Joe fired a well known corrupted prosecutor general Shokin. Or you don’t get the money.

Trump asking a favor from a foreign leader to dig dirt against his political enemies is totally WRONG or you don’t get the money.

Big difference.

You obviously lack an understanding of english. Trump told Zelensky that a lot of people want to know about the Bidens activities in Ukraine, he didn't say I want to know. There's a difference there you and most of your commie ilk don't seem to understand. So run along fool and learn the language.

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Wrong. Try again.

Are you calling Flopper a liar. He posted that paragraph from the transcript, hell he even put in bold so you lanuguage challenged commies could understand it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We don't know because it''s never been investigated. That's why Trump asked Zelensky to "look into it" as a favor. And if there is something that shows corruption, then Trump could have the IG look at that.

No, it's not bad if you ask a vendor to hire your nephew. But then again, you have no power to return the favor.

Wrong very wrong.
Asking a foreign leader a favor to dig dirt against his political rival. Is totally wrong.
You can twist however you want to protect this piece of shit president. That is not right.

I asked you a very simple reality question. Your answer is very wrong. Let me ask you again.

I deal with hundreds of vendors and suppliers regularly. If I asked one them a favor to hire my nephew.
Where and what law or any code of ethics did I violate?
Return back the favor? Giving them a contract.

Joe Biden got his son Hunter a job at Butisma. Tell me what law did he violate?

Trump getting his son inlaw a job unqualified. Is that also unacceptable?

Why do you keep asking questions I or others have answered already?

Show me where Trump used the term Dig Dirt.

You people on the left are such hypocrites. On one hand, you're trying to make claim that what Joe did was perfectly fine and legal. On the other hand, you want to see Trump impeached for being accused of doing the exact same thing.

Joe asked for the prosecutor to be fired, he got it.
Trump asked for a favor to look into Burisma and Hunter, he never got it.

Joe threaten US aid to Ukraine.
Trump never threatened US aid for anything.

No you didn’t. You only going around to support your lie.
This is the problem when you’ve been listening too much of Hannity. Using technicalities of words...

Asking a favor from a foreign leader against his political enemies is wrong. Thus equivalent to dig dirt.

Do you want me to repeat it again?

You have no idea WTF you're talking about. Digging up dirt means to create phony evidence. Finding real evidence is only digging up truth. Biden is not his political opponent. We won't know who his opponent will be for a couple of months, so this charge that Trump is doing this to gain favor in the election is an utter lie. Biden is not his rival, and likely will not be.

Deeeenng. You are right. Digging dirt is create a phony evidence. WOW I’m so impressed with your brilliance.

Crap...... there are no evidence Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine. NONE. Except phony evidence. Then only people like you and corrupted president planted that.

Why do you even think Trump will get Biden involved with his corruptions if he wasn’t scared of Biden?

The President is the last person who's hands the money passes through before it gets sent to another country. Don't you think he should look for potential problems before he does that?

Now that I embarrassed you into admitting what digging up dirt means, please explain how Trump asked for phony evidence during that call to Zelensky. Not once did he even hint at that. He asked Zelensky to "look into it" not create phony evidence. Looking into it does not mean digging up dirt......well......unless you're a lying leftist that wants to make up definitions of terms.

 

[beagle9]

The requirements to be a US President are written within the US Constitution, and Trump meets those requirements. You don't have to be an establishment person to get to be President.

A two year 45 million dollar investigation that turned up nothing in regards to why it was started began over a joke Trump made about getting Hillary's emails. But a drug addict, kicked out of the military, in and out of rehabs three times, gets a job for 83,000 a year, and nobody is supposed to care.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump. It just they can’t indict a sitting president. That’s a fact jack. I’m not sure why you have to brought this up? Poorly informed?

We are talking about unqualified which I gave you several examples. Trump and Kushner.

So Hunter got a high paying job and unqualified? SO WHAT?
Another example. How many of Trump former cabinets that are unqualified, over paid, fired or corrupted?

If this is all you’ve got against Biden then it’s laughable. Hunter has nothing to do with all these lying propaganda that you and your buddies are spreading.

Here is Hunter Biden Wikipedia. You may want to update yourself. He is paid $50,000 not $83,000 that you are lying.

Hunter Biden - Wikipedia

FACT CHECK: Was Hunter Biden Paid As Much As $50,000 A Month For His Work With Burisma?

Federal court documents prove Biden and Archer was paid 186,000 a month for at least 2 years. And the DOJ is looking into your conspiracy theory. We'll see what Durham turns up.

John Durham investigating Ukraine in Trump-Russia origins probe

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Coming from these goons? Absolutely. Those were planted by Russian operatives to that was already debunked.

Don’t ever mentioned Barr to me here.He is no different from Guilliani personal lawyer... These are the REJECTS of the US government.

Damn fool, Guilliani is a former federal prosecutor who has a history of busting organized crime, and Barr was the AG before. He is now the 85th AG, but he was also the 77th AG under G.H.W. Bush and was confirmed by the senate 99-0. Why don't you go back to your fucking shit hoe, you'll love it there.

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True but that doesn’t mean he is not corrupted and stupid.

Let me enlighten your stupidity. You have this personal lawyer Guilliani running around doing state department job instructed by Trump. Just about every witness at the hearing despise and trashed this despicable lawyer Guilliani.

Then go on national tv broadcasting what he is doing stupidly.
With the information coming from a fired corrupted prosecutor general Shokin.
So tell me how fucking stupid these goons are?

Not stupid at all, in fact if you had a swamp full of cut throats you couldn't trust as far as you could throw them after all that has happened, then you would be looking and dealing with those you can trust, not in those you can't trust.

It is that a man should say that "it is his hope that his enemy be that of a stranger, in so that he may know him when he comes for him, and not his brother for whom he may not knoweth if he were coming for him.

The swamp is liken to ones brother's coming for their other brother, and that brother trusting in them to not be his enemy, but his allies instead. The swamp brother's have been the president's enemies since 2016.

 

[OKTexas]

When I want your advice I'll ask for it.................Biden is dirty...........He was hooking up his son with his position while Ukrainians were dying in the field against Russia............

If he's so great, why wasn't he there arranging anti tank missiles to KILL RUSSIANS............You have for years said TRUMP RUSSIA..............yet your own side sent MRE's instead of weapons while people were dying........

Your party is a JOKE...........Biden is a Joke........and so is this investigation............

Wow, whje caught lying, you just increase the lying. Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter getting that job.

You are a joke, Trump Boy.

Correct, Hunter just answered a want ad in the paper:

LARGE ENERGY COMPANY LOOKING FOR BOARD MEMBER. NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, NO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE. LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE WITH SEVERE DRUG PROBLEMS, PREFERABLY KICKED OUT OF THE MILITARY AND ATTENDED MULTIPLE REHAB CLINICS.

You are just unbelievable full of crap.

Drug problems of Hunter was way before he became a board members and work prestigious companies here in US ..... before he joined Burisma.

Like I told you before board member of a company like Gas or Coal, Exxon, Gold..... it’s very very easy. You don’t have to mix chemicals.

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Prove to me where I lied.

Prove where Hunter roaming homeless encampments in Ca looking for crack in 2015. PROVE IT.

I know lots of Trump supporters are bunch LIARS like this pathological liar president.

Fuck off, I've provided links, it's your fault if you didn't bother to read them.

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[Zorro!]

State Department Releases Detailed Accounts Of Biden-Ukraine Corruption​

State Department Releases Detailed Accounts Of Biden-Ukraine Corruption | Zero Hedge
24 Nov 19 ~~ A liberal watchdog group's attempt to nail Rudy Giuliani has backfired in spectacular fashion after their FOIA request resulted in the US State Department releasing detailed accusations of corruption against the Bidens' - based on interviews with former Ukrainian officials who were in charge of the investigations. Responding to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit from the group American Oversight, the State Department on Friday night released almost 100 pages of records detailing efforts by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani to investigate corruption, which include contacts with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) earlier this year.
While American Oversight's 'gotcha' is that Giuliani had "multiple contacts" with Mike Pompeo and others while investigating Ukraine corruption, they completely ignore interview notes containing detailed allegations by former Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin - who Joe Biden had fired, as well as his successor, prosecutor general Yuriy Lutsenko - While seated as the Minister he approved two addition entities to receive permits for gas exploration; Mr. Zlochevsky was the owner of two secret companies that were part of Burisma Holdings and gave those companies permits which made it possible for him to profit while he was the sitting Minister. "Mr. Lutsenko went on to explain that there is a unit called Specialized Anticorruption Prosecutor's Office (SAP) which has under its purview National Anticorruption Bureau Ukraine (NABU) which investigates corruption cases that involved public figures from Mayors upward. He stated that the current US Ambassador protects SAP and NABU, adding "His office has absolutely no control over SAP or NABU and can’t even ask what they are working on however they fall under his "control." Of note, NABU was established in October 2014 "by Mr. George Kent who was the Deputy Chief to the Mission in Ukraine."

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Comment:
I don't know why, but there are indeed still some Journalists, Scientists, and even politicians with integrity, and balls to speak up. Although there are times that I think they're like hens teeth....
According to Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrats, it's not a crime to use your political influence to embezzle taxpayer money . . . it's a crime to investigate it.Hmm...., I wonder if the LSMSM will be reporting this? Meanwhile, how many Congress persons are not millionaires after their second or third terms in Congress/Senate?
So the PMS/DSA Democrats are impeaching Trump for what Joe Biden actually did. This makes as much sense as anything else they do.
Hmm..., Can you imagine how much it galled the State Department to have to cough up these tasty little tidbits? To think the FOIA request was looking for dirt on Rudy. Be careful what you ask for.
The extreme power that the LSMSM holds over public opinion is not a joke, and therefore they are guilty of at the least tainting possible jurors, and at the most taking payoffs from the PMS/DSA DNC, Soros and the rest of the rats. At some point in time the biased LSMSM must be held accountable. To hold a license to broadcast comes with rules and regulations that have something to do with fair and accurate reporting. This has gone far beyond what was once called yellow journalism.

The Biden's, Kerry's, Clinton's, Pelosi are as crooked as sin. The entire effort to oust Trump is so that these crooks can protect their scams.