Ocean acidification

[Old Rocks]

So, on issues of the physics of GHGs, who am I to believe, an economist from a backwater university, or the head of the GISS branch of NASA, who is also one of the world's premier atmospheric physicists.

Ross McKitrick - SourceWatch

According to a biographical note McKitrick holds "a BA in economics from Queen's University, and an MA and Ph.D. in economics from the University of British Columbia. He was appointed Assistant Professor in the Department of Economics at the University of Guelph in 1996 and Associate Professor in 2000."

"His area of specialization is environmental economics and policy analysis. His current research areas include empirical modeling of the relationship between economic growth and pollution emissions; the impact of economic activity on the measurement of surface temperatures; and the climate change policy debate," it states. [1]

A January 2000 profile of McKitrick in his hometown newspaper, the Guelph Mercury, described his PhD thesis as doctoral thesis as being on the possibility of taxing carbon emissions as a way to reduce payroll taxes which he considered to be too high.

The profile also noted that a current McKitrick study was on alternatives to government's and citizens suing corporations for pollution induced damage. It noted that McKitrick didn't support the proposal by the federal government that the federal government sue pulp and paper manufacturers for damage to fisheries. "What I'm interested in is looking at whether, in the end, this kind of system would be more costly to society on the whole than the good it would do," he told the Guelph Mercury.

According to his bio note McKitrick has briefed the Canadian Parliamentary Finance Committee, and to government staff at the US Congress and Senate but it does not state on what issues.

"He has published scholarly articles in The Journal of Environmental Economics and Management, Economic Modeling, The Canadian Journal of Economics, Environmental and Resource Economics and other journals, as well as commentaries in newspapers and other public forums," it states,

McKitrick joined the Fraser Intitute as a Senior Fellow in October 2002.[2]

 

[Old Rocks]

Even the National Academy of Science study, which faulted Mann for the statistical methodology that he used, stated that the method they used still resulted in a hockey stick graph. And that has been the case in all serious studies done by real scientists.

RealClimate: Myth vs. Fact Regarding the "Hockey Stick"

MYTH #1: The "Hockey Stick" Reconstruction is based solely on two publications by climate scientist Michael Mann and colleagues (Mann et al, 1998;1999).


This is patently false. Nearly a dozen model-based and proxy-based reconstructions of Northern Hemisphere mean temperature by different groups all suggest that late 20th century warmth is anomalous in a long-term (multi-century to millennial) context (see Figures 1 and 2 in “Temperature Variations in Past Centuries and The So-Called ‘Hockey Stick’&#8221.

Some proxy-based reconstructions suggest greater variability than others. This greater variability may be attributable to different emphases in seasonal and spatial emphasis (see Jones and Mann, 2004; Rutherford et al, 2004; Cook et al, 2004). However, even for those reconstructions which suggest a colder “Little Ice Age” and greater variability in general in past centuries, such as that of Esper et al (2002), late 20th century hemispheric warmth is still found to be anomalous in the context of the reconstruction (see Cook et al, 2004).

 

[gslack]

Watts is a tv weatherman, not a meteorologist. By the standards you are applying in calling him a meteorologist, I could just as well call myself a Geologist.


Anthony Watts - SourceWatch

Background and education
Watts grew up around Cincinnati, Ohio and reportedly attended Purdue University[1], studying Electrical Engineering and Meteorology.[2]. Watts's "About" page mentions neither his Purdue attendance nor whether he graduated. [3]. Watts has not been willing to say whether he graduated.[4]
"Anthony began his broadcasting career, in 1978 in Lafayette, Indiana."[5]


Credentials

Credentials held
Watts holds an American Meteorological Society Seal of Approval (a discontinued credential that does not require a bachelor's or higher degree in atmospheric science or meteorology from an accredited college/university)[6] with a status of "retired".[7]

Credentials not held
Some online lists incorrectly refer to Watts as "AMS Certified"[8], but this is incorrect; the American Meteorological Society reserves its "AMS Certified" designation for its Certified Broadcast Meteorologists and Certified Consulting Meteorologists[9], and Watts posesses neither certification.[10],[11]

He is a Meteorologist you dumazz, even your source said as much...

Who gives a rats azz what educational requirements the AMS seal of approval has? its not a license you retard its an endorsement by the meteorological society.. Jesus what are you 12?

Here idiot do some reading before you run your mouth....

About the AMS
freakin idiot you haven't noticed the AMS seal on TV? Jesus you do anything but post AGW propaganda?

Some more information for you, and BTW stop getting all your information from green blogs, they tend to lie and BS alot. Here is what a meteorologist is, and as it turns out its a bit more than just a weatherman you azzhole...
AMS

WHAT IS METEOROLOGY?
Meteorology is the science of the atmosphere. It takes its name from the Greek word meteoron - something that happens high in the sky. The ancient Greeks observed clouds, winds, and rain and tried to understand how they are connected to one another. The weather was important in their relatively simple society because it affected the farmers who raised their food and their seamen who sailed the oceans. Today, our complex society and our environment are affected even more seriously by events and changes in the atmosphere. We must address many complicated issues and answer many difficult questions about the behavior of the atmosphere and its effects on the people of our planet.

WHAT IS A METEOROLOGIST?
The American Meteorological Society defines a meteorologist as a person with specialized education "who uses scientific principles to explain, understand, observe, or forecast the earth's atmospheric phenomena and/or how the atmosphere affects the earth and life on the planet." This education usually includes a bachelor's or higher degree from a college or university. Many meteorologists have degrees in physics, chemistry, mathematics, and other fields. The broader term "atmospheric science" often is used to describe the combination of meteorology and other branches of physical science that are involved in studying the atmosphere.

WHAT DO METEOROLOGISTS DO?
Basically, meteorologists study and predict the weather and climate and its relationship on other environmental processes and the impact on our lives and economy. Specifically meteorologists can have many different jobs including daily weather forecasting, atmospheric research, teaching, broadcasting and supporting clients through private sector meteorological companies. Click on each of these categories to learn more specifics.

Oh please give me some other lame azz excuse now.... I love watching you dance when caught lying.....

 

[Old Rocks]

By the way, gslack, note the links to the sources.

When you start posting links to the stuff you post, then you might get a little respect. As in a fool led around by the nose, rather than just an idiot that post garbage pulled out of his asshole.

 

[gslack]

Even the National Academy of Science study, which faulted Mann for the statistical methodology that he used, stated that the method they used still resulted in a hockey stick graph. And that has been the case in all serious studies done by real scientists.

RealClimate: Myth vs. Fact Regarding the "Hockey Stick"

MYTH #1: The "Hockey Stick" Reconstruction is based solely on two publications by climate scientist Michael Mann and colleagues (Mann et al, 1998;1999).


This is patently false. Nearly a dozen model-based and proxy-based reconstructions of Northern Hemisphere mean temperature by different groups all suggest that late 20th century warmth is anomalous in a long-term (multi-century to millennial) context (see Figures 1 and 2 in “Temperature Variations in Past Centuries and The So-Called ‘Hockey Stick’”).

Some proxy-based reconstructions suggest greater variability than others. This greater variability may be attributable to different emphases in seasonal and spatial emphasis (see Jones and Mann, 2004; Rutherford et al, 2004; Cook et al, 2004). However, even for those reconstructions which suggest a colder “Little Ice Age” and greater variability in general in past centuries, such as that of Esper et al (2002), late 20th century hemispheric warmth is still found to be anomalous in the context of the reconstruction (see Cook et al, 2004).

Stop changing the subject azzhole...... the point was peer review is not a statement that a theory is fact... now stay on subject....

 

[gslack]

By the way, gslack, note the links to the sources.

When you start posting links to the stuff you post, then you might get a little respect. As in a fool led around by the nose, rather than just an idiot that post garbage pulled out of his asshole.

Stop lying douchebag, the post above has links in it and unlike you I went to the horses mouth to get it..... Useless liar..... YOU cried like a punk and negative repped me like a true douchebag... Nice work crybaby show your age.....

 

[Old Rocks]

And here is exactly what that seal says. Note what is in red. In other words, the seal holder is not a professional meteorologist.

NAME) Earns the AMS Seal of Approval

(City, State): (Name) of (Station) has been awarded the Seal of Approval of the American Meteorological Society in recognition of the quality of (his/her) (television/radio) weather broadcasts.
The Seal is awarded by the Society to broadcast meteorologists who meet established criteria for scientific competence and effective communication skills in their weather presentations. Among radio and television meteorologists, the Seal of Approval is sought as a mark of distinction and a recognition of achievement in the communication of scientific information.
To earn the Seal of Approval, a broadcast meteorologist must apply to the Society, offering evidence of education and professional experience sufficient to meet established national standards, along with three examples of his or her work. The application is judged by a national board of examiners to assess four elements: technical competence, informational value, explanatory value, and communication skills.
Sealholders are highly respected among their peers. Professional meteorologists have confidence that weather presentations made by sealholders will be technically sound and responsibly delivered. The general public can have equal confidence in the quality and reliability of weather presentations made by broadcast meteorologists approved by the Society.
The American Meteorological Society was founded in 1919 as a nonprofit scientific and professional society. It is interdisciplinary in scope and actively promotes the development and dissemination of information of the atmospheric and related oceanic and hydrologic sciences. The Society currently has over 10,000 members from the United States, Canada and over 100 countries internationally.

 

[Old Rocks]

What the AMS has to say concerning man's impact on the climate.

AMS Information Statement on Climate Change

Why is climate changing?
Climate has changed throughout geological history, for many natural reasons such as changes in the sun’s energy received by Earth arising from slow orbital changes, or changes in the sun’s energy reaching Earth’s surface due to volcanic eruptions. In recent decades, humans have increasingly affected local, regional, and global climate by altering the flows of radiative energy and water through the Earth system (resulting in changes in temperature, winds, rainfall, etc.), which comprises the atmosphere, land surface, vegetation, ocean, land ice, and sea ice. Indeed, strong observational evidence and results from modeling studies indicate that, at least over the last 50 years, human activities are a major contributor to climate change.

Direct human impact is through changes in the concentration of certain trace gases such as carbon dioxide, chlorofluorocarbons, methane, nitrous oxide, ozone, and water vapor, known collectively as greenhouse gases. Enhanced greenhouse gases have little effect on the incoming energy of the sun, but they act as a blanket to reduce the outgoing infrared radiation emitted by Earth and its atmosphere; the surface and atmosphere therefore warm so as to increase the outgoing energy until the outgoing and incoming flows of energy are equal. Carbon dioxide accounts for about half of the human-induced greenhouse gas contribution to warming since the late 1800s, with increases in the other greenhouse gases accounting for the rest; changes in solar output may have provided an augmentation to warming in the first half of the 20th century.

 

[Old Rocks]

By the way, gslack, note the links to the sources.

When you start posting links to the stuff you post, then you might get a little respect. As in a fool led around by the nose, rather than just an idiot that post garbage pulled out of his asshole.

Stop lying douchebag, the post above has links in it and unlike you I went to the horses mouth to get it..... Useless liar..... YOU cried like a punk and negative repped me like a true douchebag... Nice work crybaby show your age.....

My, my, upset now are we, little boy? Well, get used to it until such time as you grow up enough to do actual research before you post.

 

[gslack]

And here is exactly what that seal says. Note what is in red. In other words, the seal holder is not a professional meteorologist.

NAME) Earns the AMS Seal of Approval

(City, State): (Name) of (Station) has been awarded the Seal of Approval of the American Meteorological Society in recognition of the quality of (his/her) (television/radio) weather broadcasts.
The Seal is awarded by the Society to broadcast meteorologists who meet established criteria for scientific competence and effective communication skills in their weather presentations. Among radio and television meteorologists, the Seal of Approval is sought as a mark of distinction and a recognition of achievement in the communication of scientific information.
To earn the Seal of Approval, a broadcast meteorologist must apply to the Society, offering evidence of education and professional experience sufficient to meet established national standards, along with three examples of his or her work. The application is judged by a national board of examiners to assess four elements: technical competence, informational value, explanatory value, and communication skills.
Sealholders are highly respected among their peers. Professional meteorologists have confidence that weather presentations made by sealholders will be technically sound and responsibly delivered. The general public can have equal confidence in the quality and reliability of weather presentations made by broadcast meteorologists approved by the Society.
The American Meteorological Society was founded in 1919 as a nonprofit scientific and professional society. It is interdisciplinary in scope and actively promotes the development and dissemination of information of the atmospheric and related oceanic and hydrologic sciences. The Society currently has over 10,000 members from the United States, Canada and over 100 countries internationally.

OMG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

YOU complete and total moron! WTF are you on? You really think you can highlight a couple of words and change the entire meaning of entire paragraphs? What an imbecile....

AMS Certification Programs

Certified Broadcast Meteorologist Program

The Certified Broadcast Meteorologist (CBM) program was established to raise the professional standard in broadcast meteorology and encourage a broader range of scientific understanding, especially with respect to environmental issues. The goal of the CBM program is to certify that the holder meets specific educational and experience criteria and has passed rigorous testing in their knowledge and communication of meteorology and related sciences needed to be an effective broadcast meteorologist.

In order to acquire a CBM, new applicants must hold a degree in meteorology (or equivalent) from an accredited college/university, pass a written examination, and have their work reviewed to assess technical competence, informational value, explanatory value, and communication skills. All CBMs may retain their certification and display the CBM logo as long as they pay their membership and renewal fees each year and complete a 28 point professional development requirements every five years.

Applications, Procedures, and other Helpful Links

Educational requirements for the CBM - Bachelors Degree in Atmospheric Science Statement (see section 2b)
Procedures and Requirements for Certified Broadcast Meteorologist (CBM) for New Applicants (revised September 2005; October 2006; October 2007; March 2009)
Application for Certified Broadcast Meteorologist (CBM) - revised January 2008
Study Guide for the Certified Broadcast Meteorologist (CBM) Examination
Board of Broadcast Meteorology
Board Statement on DVD/tape Submission Requirements - updated May 2008
Tips from the Board of Broadcast Meteorology for Gaining an AMS Seal of Approval or CBM

Fee Schedule (revised January 2010)
Press Release on the Certified Broadcast Meteorology Program (.doc)
Appeals Process
Guidelines for use of the AMS Name, AMS Official Seal, Seal of Approval, CBM, and CCM Designation
Distance Learning Courses that Satisfy some of the CBM Education Requirements

Notice the part I bolded and made red azzhole? Whats that say..... Come on coward say it...

 

[Old Rocks]

Credentials not held
Some online lists incorrectly refer to Watts as "AMS Certified"[8], but this is incorrect; the American Meteorological Society reserves its "AMS Certified" designation for its Certified Broadcast Meteorologists and Certified Consulting Meteorologists[9], and Watts posesses neither certification.[10],[11]

Anthony Watts - SourceWatch

But Watts does not have either certification. They require a degree, which Anthony Watts does not have.

 

[gslack]

Credentials not held
Some online lists incorrectly refer to Watts as "AMS Certified"[8], but this is incorrect; the American Meteorological Society reserves its "AMS Certified" designation for its Certified Broadcast Meteorologists and Certified Consulting Meteorologists[9], and Watts posesses neither certification.[10],[11]

Anthony Watts - SourceWatch

But Watts does not have either certification. They require a degree, which Anthony Watts does not have.

Dude I said it once and I will say it again... Sourcewatch is unreliable.... Completely and totally run by irresponsible and unethical lazy dipshits... here is the proof....

Your link to source watch page on anthony watts.... Anthony Watts - SourceWatch

They claim the following part you keep commenting on. In their words....

Credentials held
Watts holds an American Meteorological Society Seal of Approval (a discontinued credential that does not require a bachelor's or higher degree in atmospheric science or meteorology from an accredited college/university)[6] with a status of "retired".[7]

Now see the little numbers on the site next to the claims they make? Those are for references to back the claims.... pay close attention to number 6. shown on the site as subscript number 6 just after the college/university words.

Well I followed the link and low and behold I get this site...Untitled
The site says the following....

REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AMS SEAL OF APPROVAL PROGRAM
Applications for the AMS Seal of Approval Program will be accepted until 31 December 2008. After that date, only applications for the AMS Certified Broadcast Meteorologist Program will be accepted. In order to be eligible to apply for the AMS Seal of Approval, applicants must meet the requirements listed under one of the below sections.

(A) Hold a Bachelor's (or higher) degree in meteorology or atmospheric science.

(B) Hold a Bachelor's degree (or higher) in "other sciences and engineering" and be engaged in an activity in which the applicant's knowledge is being applied to the advancement or application of the atmospheric or related sciences. Acceptable degrees will be determined after a review of the applicant's college/university transcripts. Arts and humanities are not included; therefore, degrees in English, literature, philosophy, languages, journalism, communications and business administration would not lead to eligibility for Seal application. In addition to a degree in a related science, applicants must also have completed at least 12 semester credit hours in meteorology with 8 of the 12 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 3 of the 5 core areas is required). See (C) for a description of the core areas.

(C) This set of requirements is intended to recognize individuals without a degree from an accredited institution but who have at least a minimal educational background in the underlying science and substantial experience in the field. Individuals accepted under this category must have at least 20 semester credit hours in meteorology with 12 of the 20 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 4 of the 5 core areas is required). In addition, applicants must have 3 out of the last 5 years professional experience in the field. This requirement must be fulfilled by experience that requires independent analysis, interpretation and scientific judgment. It may not be fulfilled by experience that involves nothing more than routine observations or passing on information created by someone else.

WOW!...... Just completely and totally WOW!!!! UNFUCKINGBELEIVABLE!!!!!!

YOUR site source watch caught red-handed and bald faced outright and undeniably lying through there fucking teeth!!!!!!!!

You two bit, pseudo-science pushing, shit talking imbecile..... NOW do me and everyone else here a favor and kiss both sides of my ass you complete and total hack!!!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Untitled

Applications for the AMS Seal of Approval Program will be accepted until 31 December 2008.

Just for you, dumbo, I will break this down. Until 31Dec08, you need not have a degree to get an AMS Seal of Approval. See the link below this one.

After that date, only applications for the AMS Certified Broadcast Meteorologist Program will be accepted. In order to be eligible to apply for the AMS Seal of Approval, applicants must meet the requirements listed under one of the below sections.

(A) Hold a Bachelor's (or higher) degree in meteorology or atmospheric science.

(B) Hold a Bachelor's degree (or higher) in "other sciences and engineering" and be engaged in an activity in which the applicant's knowledge is being applied to the advancement or application of the atmospheric or related sciences. Acceptable degrees will be determined after a review of the applicant's college/university transcripts. Arts and humanities are not included; therefore, degrees in English, literature, philosophy, languages, journalism, communications and business administration would not lead to eligibility for Seal application. In addition to a degree in a related science, applicants must also have completed at least 12 semester credit hours in meteorology with 8 of the 12 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 3 of the 5 core areas is required). See (C) for a description of the core areas.

(C) This set of requirements is intended to recognize individuals without a degree from an accredited institution but who have at least a minimal educational background in the underlying science and substantial experience in the field. Individuals accepted under this category must have at least 20 semester credit hours in meteorology with 12 of the 20 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 4 of the 5 core areas is required). In addition, applicants must have 3 out of the last 5 years professional experience in the field. This requirement must be fulfilled by experience that requires independent analysis, interpretation and scientific judgment. It may not be fulfilled by experience that involves nothing more than routine observations or passing on information created by someone else.

The word is grandfathered tv weatherman can use Section 3. No degree required. Again, by those requirements, I could call myself a Geologist with as much justification as Watts calls himself a meteorologist.


AMS Certification Programs


AMS Seal of Approval
The AMS is no longer accepting applications for the Seal of Approval Program

The AMS Seal of Approval was launched in 1957 as a way to recognize on-air meteorologists for their sound delivery of weather information to the general public. Among radio and television meteorologists, the AMS Seal of Approval is sought as a mark of distinction.

To earn the Seal of Approval, a broadcast meteorologist must apply to the Society, offering evidence of education and professional experience sufficient to meet established national standards, along with three examples of his or her work. The application is judged by a national board of examiners to assess four elements: technical competence, informational value, explanatory value, and communication skills.

Applications for the Seal of Approval were accepted from 1959 - 2008. There have been over 1700 Seals awarded.

With reading skills as minimal as yours, I would careful about calling others names.

 

[gslack]

Come on socks you little coward......

While i wait on your latest song and dance, I will inform the forum about source watch ....

the link oldsocks posted to sourcewatch... Anthony Watts - SourceWatch

Now in the left corner of that page we see this a little badge with a earth pic on it saying this... "This is part of the Center for Media & Democracy's climate change project."

I follow the link and it goes here.....Portal:Climate Change - SourceWatch

Turns out sourcewatch has a special portal for a group known as "the Center for Media & Democracy"

Well who the heck are they? Well they aren't very forthcoming about that on the page and there is no link to their site or contact info anywhere on the page....

Way to show that transparency sourcewatch

So like a thorough OCD sufferer I do a google on them... and bingo! I find they are part of PR watch.

About CMD | Center for Media and Democracy
prwatch says the following about themselves....

About CMD
The Center for Media and Democracy is an independent, non-profit, non-partisan, public interest organization that focuses on:

Investigating and countering spin by corporations, industries, and government agencies that affects our health, liberty, security, economic opportunities, environment, and the vitality of the democratic process.
Informing and assisting grassroots action that promotes public health, economic justice, ecological sustainability, human rights, and democratic principles.
Advancing transparency and media literacy to help people recognize the forces shaping the information they receive about important issues affecting their lives.
Promoting "open content" media that enable people from all walks of life to "be the media" and help write the history of these times.

Hmm, we have a organization claiming non-partisanship while they use an alternate outlet to lie and mislead about a meteorologist who retired after 25 years working in the field, simply because they back AGW and he does not..

WOW!

Seriously douche bag oldsocks not only showed sourcewatch to be a hack site as relaible as he is, but he also showed PRwatch to be a front to promote AGW...... LOL nice inestigative journalism oldsocks bravo!

 

[Old Rocks]

You mean because he could not measure up to present standards. Too bad, happens in every field to those that fail to continue their education.

 

[gslack]

Untitled

Applications for the AMS Seal of Approval Program will be accepted until 31 December 2008.

Just for you, dumbo, I will break this down. Until 31Dec08, you need not have a degree to get an AMS Seal of Approval. See the link below this one.

After that date, only applications for the AMS Certified Broadcast Meteorologist Program will be accepted. In order to be eligible to apply for the AMS Seal of Approval, applicants must meet the requirements listed under one of the below sections.

(A) Hold a Bachelor's (or higher) degree in meteorology or atmospheric science.

(B) Hold a Bachelor's degree (or higher) in "other sciences and engineering" and be engaged in an activity in which the applicant's knowledge is being applied to the advancement or application of the atmospheric or related sciences. Acceptable degrees will be determined after a review of the applicant's college/university transcripts. Arts and humanities are not included; therefore, degrees in English, literature, philosophy, languages, journalism, communications and business administration would not lead to eligibility for Seal application. In addition to a degree in a related science, applicants must also have completed at least 12 semester credit hours in meteorology with 8 of the 12 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 3 of the 5 core areas is required). See (C) for a description of the core areas.

(C) This set of requirements is intended to recognize individuals without a degree from an accredited institution but who have at least a minimal educational background in the underlying science and substantial experience in the field. Individuals accepted under this category must have at least 20 semester credit hours in meteorology with 12 of the 20 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 4 of the 5 core areas is required). In addition, applicants must have 3 out of the last 5 years professional experience in the field. This requirement must be fulfilled by experience that requires independent analysis, interpretation and scientific judgment. It may not be fulfilled by experience that involves nothing more than routine observations or passing on information created by someone else.

The word is grandfathered tv weatherman can use Section 3. No degree required. Again, by those requirements, I could call myself a Geologist with as much justification as Watts calls himself a meteorologist.


AMS Certification Programs


AMS Seal of Approval
The AMS is no longer accepting applications for the Seal of Approval Program

The AMS Seal of Approval was launched in 1957 as a way to recognize on-air meteorologists for their sound delivery of weather information to the general public. Among radio and television meteorologists, the AMS Seal of Approval is sought as a mark of distinction.

To earn the Seal of Approval, a broadcast meteorologist must apply to the Society, offering evidence of education and professional experience sufficient to meet established national standards, along with three examples of his or her work. The application is judged by a national board of examiners to assess four elements: technical competence, informational value, explanatory value, and communication skills.

Applications for the Seal of Approval were accepted from 1959 - 2008. There have been over 1700 Seals awarded.

With reading skills as minimal as yours, I would careful about calling others names.

LIAR!

You're busted sourcewatch was busted, prwatch was busted, and all because you had to post a BS propaganda misleading article from them..... LOL

So you have all the requirements do you? HAHAHAHAHAHA! you have ...

"have at least a minimal educational background in the underlying science and substantial experience in the field. Individuals accepted under this category must have at least 20 semester credit hours in meteorology with 12 of the 20 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 4 of the 5 core areas is required). In addition, applicants must have 3 out of the last 5 years professional experience in the field. This requirement must be fulfilled by experience that requires independent analysis, interpretation and scientific judgment. It may not be fulfilled by experience that involves nothing more than routine observations or passing on information created by someone else."

Sure ya do stooge sure ya do.....LOL knew you would have to try and dance your way out of it.....

You got owned azzhole.... Sorry but the facts are.... He was a meteorologist for 25 years. he retired and now does his site and few times a week works at his local radio station as a meteorologist. Kind of like our channel 8 we have here. A guy there is about 70 years old, was doing the weather when i was a kid. he comes on a couple times a week to do a report and such....

Question... If a seal or accreditation is now obsolete, what are the requirements to get one of those obsolete and no longer done or awarded accreditations? LOL, nothing... The seal has been replaced by a new seal and he retired way before that time. So he, you or I do not need anything to get a obsolete and no longer awarded accreditation.... You just been schooled on a propaganda snow job douchebag.... They say things that are inapplicable and then the layman who doesn't check the story (like you) read it and go off posting like idiots half truths and innuendo that means nothing....

And to think you have sourcewatch to thank for all this...... HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

 

[Old Rocks]

By the standards by which one would judge Watts to have been a meteorologist, I would be considered a Geologists. He was not and never will be a meteorologist, I am not a Geologist. Both titles demand that one earn a degree.

 

[Old Rocks]

You know, gslack, were you on my side in a debate, I would stuff a sock into your mouth.

 

[gslack]

By the standards by which one would judge Watts to have been a meteorologist, I would be considered a Geologists. He was not and never will be a meteorologist, I am not a Geologist. Both titles demand that one earn a degree.

LOL, my god man you are so utterly pathetic....

You are without a rope and drowning in this lie and you will continue on telling it no matter what...... Well its your funeral douchebag...

He was a meteorologist AMS sealed and certified, how he got it means squat. They are experts and they accredited him. There was no grandfathering you idiot he wasn't alive before the AMS seal. Whether he has a degree or not I have no Idea, but I do know he had to fulfill these requirements to get his AMS seal and I believe to get a job as a meteorologist for a television station and hold that job for 25 years, he had to have some kind of education or training in it.

Once more the requirements....

REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AMS SEAL OF APPROVAL PROGRAM
Applications for the AMS Seal of Approval Program will be accepted until 31 December 2008. After that date, only applications for the AMS Certified Broadcast Meteorologist Program will be accepted. In order to be eligible to apply for the AMS Seal of Approval, applicants must meet the requirements listed under one of the below sections.

(A) Hold a Bachelor's (or higher) degree in meteorology or atmospheric science.

(B) Hold a Bachelor's degree (or higher) in "other sciences and engineering" and be engaged in an activity in which the applicant's knowledge is being applied to the advancement or application of the atmospheric or related sciences. Acceptable degrees will be determined after a review of the applicant's college/university transcripts. Arts and humanities are not included; therefore, degrees in English, literature, philosophy, languages, journalism, communications and business administration would not lead to eligibility for Seal application. In addition to a degree in a related science, applicants must also have completed at least 12 semester credit hours in meteorology with 8 of the 12 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 3 of the 5 core areas is required). See (C) for a description of the core areas.

(C) This set of requirements is intended to recognize individuals without a degree from an accredited institution but who have at least a minimal educational background in the underlying science and substantial experience in the field. Individuals accepted under this category must have at least 20 semester credit hours in meteorology with 12 of the 20 credits in core classes (a minimum of 2 credits in each of 4 of the 5 core areas is required). In addition, applicants must have 3 out of the last 5 years professional experience in the field. This requirement must be fulfilled by experience that requires independent analysis, interpretation and scientific judgment. It may not be fulfilled by experience that involves nothing more than routine observations or passing on information created by someone else.


So then tell me about all your training in a related science and or all your years of experience the field doing actual research and data collecting, and such......

LOL you ignorant buffoon....

 

[gslack]

I figured it out.... Old socks is a double agent working for big oil trying to wreck AGW legislation from the inside... Seriously its the only thing that makes sense...

Look at it, he posts retarded and easily refuted obvious propaganda all the time, and then fails miserably in defending it over and again....

LOL well okay you're right he is just an idiot .... it was a fun thought though lol