Obomination: Gas Prices Grow More Under Obama Than Carter...

[francoHFW]

Prices were over $4 under Boooosh, summer of '08, dumbass.

They will come down when this administration has a compromise closing Iran's high radiaton plant in a few months and shuts up the warmongering RWers here and in Israel, and for that matter, the RWers in Iran who just love their BS. And maybe passes a law or two against speculators...a legacy of Booosh's cronyism state...

RWers suq period LOL

 

[Oddball]

The Democrats whining and blaming Bush for high gas prices during his administration in no way serves as justification for whining and blaming Obama during his administration.

With the notable exception that Chimpola didn't have an Energy Secretary whose stated goal was to have American prices rise to the level of those in Europe, and he himself wasn't openly hostile to oil, coal and natural gas production.

 

[Katzndogz]

ery time obama opens his mouth and bashes fossil fuels it drives the prices up.. how prepared are you for $7.00 a gallon?

It's $7.00 a gallon on Catalina now!

Bush didn't need to do anything about gas prices because they weren't high. They only got this high during the obama curse. obama's answer is for YOU to buy a new car. He doesn't need to do anything.

What he wanted to do was increase the price of oil by ending the subsidies which would have meant a dramatic increase. Such an increase would necessariy cause obama to give another speech about how YOU have to buy a new car.

How many cars on Catilina?

Boat dock gas has always been about 50% higher than land gas.

Yes, so all we have to do is wait until boat dock gas is $10.00 an hour and land gas is $8.00 an hour.

 

[paulitician]

Marking the similarities between President Barack Obama's time in office and former president Jimmy Carter's is nothing new. But as of Monday, Obama has hit one more Carter benchmark - both saw gas prices double in their first term of office.

In fact, while just barely, Obama has seen an even higher gas price increase than Carter dealt with under his administration.

Under the Carter administration, gas prices increased by 103.77 percent. Gas prices since Obama took office have risen by 103.79 percent. No other presidents in recent years have struggled as much with soaring oil prices. Under the Reagan administration, gas prices actually dropped 66 percent. When Bill Clinton was president, gas prices grew by roughly 30 percent, and under both Bush presidencies, gas prices rose by 20 percent.

The National Republican Congressional Committee called attention to Obama's recent "dishonorable distinction," blaming the Democrats' rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline as a major factor for skyrocketing gas prices.

Gas Prices averaged $1.86 a gallon when Obama took office.

Gas Prices Grow More Under Obama than Carter - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

First of all, it’s a silly and simplistic thing to assume that the President alone has any sort of ‘super power’ over the price of gas. Also, I think it’s even a stretch to say that Washington in general has as significant effect on the price of gas. But even if you did think that Washington could significantly affect the price of gas through policy decisions, you still have to consider the 500+ Senators and Representatives that also have control over the law crafting/approval.

Finally I'd like to note that when Obama took office, the price of gas had just crashed significantly to $1.86 along with the entire economy in 2008. Just months earlier in that same year, the price was at about $4.00+, so it’s dishonest to run these stats without showing the full picture.

Why not compare the average price of gas in 2008 to the average price of gas today? This is a misleading use of statistics, and a dishonest post.

Yup, that's his M.O.

All one has to do is convince themselves that gas prices weren't bottoming out when Obama took office and pretend that prices now aren't merely back to 2008 levels along with the rest of the market.

 

[BlindBoo]

First of all, it’s a silly and simplistic thing to assume that the President alone has any sort of ‘super power’ over the price of gas. Also, I think it’s even a stretch to say that Washington in general has as significant effect on the price of gas. But even if you did think that Washington could significantly affect the price of gas through policy decisions, you still have to consider the 500+ Senators and Representatives that also have control over the law crafting/approval.

Finally I'd like to note that when Obama took office, the price of gas had just crashed significantly to $1.86 along with the entire economy in 2008. Just months earlier in that same year, the price was at about $4.00+, so it’s dishonest to run these stats without showing the full picture.

Why not compare the average price of gas in 2008 to the average price of gas today? This is a misleading use of statistics, and a dishonest post.

Kevin allow me to show you the full picture.

Sums it up pretty succinctly.

Hogwash. You could easily substitute an elephant and in 2004 and 2008 he'd be saying it's Not the Presidents fault. Then in the final panel screaming it's all Obama's fault!

In reality they are both two sides of the same coin.

 

[uscitizen]

The Democrats whining and blaming Bush for high gas prices during his administration in no way serves as justification for whining and blaming Obama during his administration.

With the notable exception that Chimpola didn't have an Energy Secretary whose stated goal was to have American prices rise to the level of those in Europe, and he himself wasn't openly hostile to oil, coal and natural gas production.

How do we know? I never did hear waht was discussed in Cheney's secret energy policy meetings with Big oil. Did you?

Ohh you did say "stated" goal.

 

[Oddball]

The Democrats whining and blaming Bush for high gas prices during his administration in no way serves as justification for whining and blaming Obama during his administration.

With the notable exception that Chimpola didn't have an Energy Secretary whose stated goal was to have American prices rise to the level of those in Europe, and he himself wasn't openly hostile to oil, coal and natural gas production.

How do we know? I never did hear waht was discussed in Cheney's secret energy policy meetings with Big oil. Did you?

Ohh you did say "stated" goal.

We know because of Chu's own words.

Who did you expect Cheney to meet with when discussing energy policy, the Rotary Club?

 

[sealybobo]

Prices were over $4 under Boooosh, summer of '08, dumbass.

They will come down when this administration has a compromise closing Iran's high radiaton plant in a few months and shuts up the warmongering RWers here and in Israel, and for that matter, the RWers in Iran who just love their BS. And maybe passes a law or two against speculators...a legacy of Booosh's cronyism state...

RWers suq period LOL

Stop making sense!

 

[BlindBoo]

Under Carter, for those who remember, there wasn't any gas. Carter imposed higher taxes and price controls to keep the price down. Oil companies exercised their right not to sell us any. Thankfully obama didn't get to impose higher taxes on the oil companies or the coversation today would be very different. Like how people would get to work with no transportation.

obama hasn't released any oil reserves. He's been asked to but he hasn't done it.

The total inventory of gas in the system remained nearly constant. But the actions of nervous drivers moved the gas from below ground tanks at the corner gas stations to above ground rolling storage [in vehicle gas tanks].

The fear of shortages was a self-fulfilling prophesy that created artificial, speculative demand that caused lines and price increases. OPEC and President Carter were blamed, but we did it to ourselves.

So when many panicked and felt they had to top off their gas tanks, others saw the long lines and panicked, too. The extra volume of gas required to completely fill all the gas tanks of all the cars exceeds 2.5 days of supply in the supply line to gas stations.

The Oil Shocks of the 70s

 

[BlindBoo]

We can not have the Robber Barons deciding who our president should be. The oil companies sabotaged Carter and we can not allow them to do so to Obama.

All the more reason to either Nationalize the Oil companies, and healthcare giants, or at least heavily regulate them.

And stop oil speculators on Wallstreet from costing Economy car owners an extra $12 every time they fill up and $20 if you own an SUV.

If the GOP would stop protecting/defending Oil speculators, what would gas cost? Instead of $60 fill up it would only be $40??? Blame the GOP.

Try as you will, people are not buying your line of crap. Speculators are speculating that Barack Obama and his Democrat's energy policies will continue to hamstring energy exploration and production in this nation thus keeping supply low. If Obama had decent energy policies then the bets would be leaning towards a bigger supply making oil prices fall lower. Try again.

US Crude oil production has not been this high since 1998.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

 

[CrusaderFrank]

By this logic, if you compare Clinton to Bush....

Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama cannot control OPEC or the demand from China or India or the effect of Wall Street speculators on oil prices. Obama cannot control how speculators are interpreting the rightwing call for war against Iran.

Reagan was asked to put the Pentagon budget into oil prices, that is, it was argued that the real cost of oil needed to reflect the military investment in the middle east. Reagan declined because he didn't want a market signal toward alternatives and conservation. He dug our grave.

If you want to talk about what happened while a president was in office. Bush lost the American housing and financial markets - both of which crashed on his watch. Granted, when things go wrong on the GOP's watch, they tend to blame the other party. They blamed the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act (passed by Carter) for the housing meltdown. They say you can't blame Bush for anything, but they've been blaming Carter for 30 years.

The OP would have credibility if he would stop re-posting tired Rightwing talking points. It would be nice if he could show us the calculation for what causes oil prices to rise and fall. Perhaps he could show us how much the total global demand affects price. Perhaps he could show us how much the price would be affected if America drilled for its truly paltry remaining supplies. Perhaps he could show us how much oil speculators affect the price, if he even understands that. Perhaps he could talk about Iraq/Iran's decision to price oil in Euros rather than dollars - and how much that affects the price in the USA.

Problem is . . . we suspect he doesn't really understand any of this. We suspect he cannot provide the exact details of where oil prices come from. We suspect he is stuck inside Rightwing talking points. We suspect he is repeating think tank conclusions sans data.

(God help us . . . because he votes)

Oil fell to $10/barrel under Reagan

 

[BlindBoo]

Because Bush buried his head in the sand and wouldn't do anything about it. Obama is taking them on. Remember he threatened to take away their tax breaks? Remember he released all that oil we had in reserve to increase supply?

What did Bush do? Please provide proof, which I know you can't and won't.

ery time obama opens his mouth and bashes fossil fuels it drives the prices up.. how prepared are you for $7.00 a gallon?

It's $7.00 a gallon on Catalina now!

Bush didn't need to do anything about gas prices because they weren't high. They only got this high during the obama curse. obama's answer is for YOU to buy a new car. He doesn't need to do anything.

What he wanted to do was increase the price of oil by ending the subsidies which would have meant a dramatic increase. Such an increase would necessariy cause obama to give another speech about how YOU have to buy a new car.

Hahahaha. Gas prices peaked in the summer of 2008 over 4.30 per gallon. In Jan 2001 when Bush took office the price was about 1.60 per gallon. But you believe they've only risen during Obama's term

 

[BlindBoo]

By this logic, if you compare Clinton to Bush....

Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama cannot control OPEC or the demand from China or India or the effect of Wall Street speculators on oil prices. Obama cannot control how speculators are interpreting the rightwing call for war against Iran.

Reagan was asked to put the Pentagon budget into oil prices, that is, it was argued that the real cost of oil needed to reflect the military investment in the middle east. Reagan declined because he didn't want a market signal toward alternatives and conservation. He dug our grave.

If you want to talk about what happened while a president was in office. Bush lost the American housing and financial markets - both of which crashed on his watch. Granted, when things go wrong on the GOP's watch, they tend to blame the other party. They blamed the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act (passed by Carter) for the housing meltdown. They say you can't blame Bush for anything, but they've been blaming Carter for 30 years.

The OP would have credibility if he would stop re-posting tired Rightwing talking points. It would be nice if he could show us the calculation for what causes oil prices to rise and fall. Perhaps he could show us how much the total global demand affects price. Perhaps he could show us how much the price would be affected if America drilled for its truly paltry remaining supplies. Perhaps he could show us how much oil speculators affect the price, if he even understands that. Perhaps he could talk about Iraq/Iran's decision to price oil in Euros rather than dollars - and how much that affects the price in the USA.

Problem is . . . we suspect he doesn't really understand any of this. We suspect he cannot provide the exact details of where oil prices come from. We suspect he is stuck inside Rightwing talking points. We suspect he is repeating think tank conclusions sans data.

(God help us . . . because he votes)

Oil fell to $10/barrel under Reagan

Which was the easy road that left us more dependant on foriegn oil than ever before. Which led to the collapse of the US Oil Patch. Thanks Ronnie.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do I have to rerun Obama Gas ads from 2008?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

By this logic, if you compare Clinton to Bush....

Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama cannot control OPEC or the demand from China or India or the effect of Wall Street speculators on oil prices. Obama cannot control how speculators are interpreting the rightwing call for war against Iran.

Reagan was asked to put the Pentagon budget into oil prices, that is, it was argued that the real cost of oil needed to reflect the military investment in the middle east. Reagan declined because he didn't want a market signal toward alternatives and conservation. He dug our grave.

If you want to talk about what happened while a president was in office. Bush lost the American housing and financial markets - both of which crashed on his watch. Granted, when things go wrong on the GOP's watch, they tend to blame the other party. They blamed the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act (passed by Carter) for the housing meltdown. They say you can't blame Bush for anything, but they've been blaming Carter for 30 years.

The OP would have credibility if he would stop re-posting tired Rightwing talking points. It would be nice if he could show us the calculation for what causes oil prices to rise and fall. Perhaps he could show us how much the total global demand affects price. Perhaps he could show us how much the price would be affected if America drilled for its truly paltry remaining supplies. Perhaps he could show us how much oil speculators affect the price, if he even understands that. Perhaps he could talk about Iraq/Iran's decision to price oil in Euros rather than dollars - and how much that affects the price in the USA.

Problem is . . . we suspect he doesn't really understand any of this. We suspect he cannot provide the exact details of where oil prices come from. We suspect he is stuck inside Rightwing talking points. We suspect he is repeating think tank conclusions sans data.

(God help us . . . because he votes)

Oil fell to $10/barrel under Reagan

Which was the easy road that left us more dependant on foriegn oil than ever before. Which led to the collapse of the US Oil Patch. Thanks Ronnie.

Your hatred makes you look like an idiot.

 

[Vel]

We can not have the Robber Barons deciding who our president should be. The oil companies sabotaged Carter and we can not allow them to do so to Obama.

All the more reason to either Nationalize the Oil companies, and healthcare giants, or at least heavily regulate them.

And stop oil speculators on Wallstreet from costing Economy car owners an extra $12 every time they fill up and $20 if you own an SUV.

If the GOP would stop protecting/defending Oil speculators, what would gas cost? Instead of $60 fill up it would only be $40??? Blame the GOP.

Try as you will, people are not buying your line of crap. Speculators are speculating that Barack Obama and his Democrat's energy policies will continue to hamstring energy exploration and production in this nation thus keeping supply low. If Obama had decent energy policies then the bets would be leaning towards a bigger supply making oil prices fall lower. Try again.

US Crude oil production has not been this high since 1998.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Image what it would be if there had not been a 40% reduction of gas and oil production of federal lands under Obama.
Under Obama, Federal Oil and Gas Production Is Down 40%

 

[paulitician]

Obama-Bot programming: High Gas Prices under DA BOOOOOSH = BAAAAD!! High Gas Prices under the Dear Leader = GOOOOD!! You can't reason with them. Their robotic responses are pre-programmed and set on repeat. But it is fun watching them try to spin.

 

[BlindBoo]

Try as you will, people are not buying your line of crap. Speculators are speculating that Barack Obama and his Democrat's energy policies will continue to hamstring energy exploration and production in this nation thus keeping supply low. If Obama had decent energy policies then the bets would be leaning towards a bigger supply making oil prices fall lower. Try again.

US Crude oil production has not been this high since 1998.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Image what it would be if there had not been a 40% reduction of gas and oil production of federal lands under Obama.
Under Obama, Federal Oil and Gas Production Is Down 40%

After several months of review, the EIA issued a revised report March 14. It showed that in 2010, instead of dropping by 29% from 2009, crude oil production on federal lands actually rose by 15%. In fact, the EIA's revisions reversed what had looked like a 10-year decline.

The EIA also corrected another glaring error. The old numbers pegged 2003 production at 422.6 million barrels. But that didn't count the more than 200 million barrels acquired by the US that year under the now defunct royalty-in-kind program and used to fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The revised numbers now show 2003 production of 689 million barrels.

And, for those keeping score, the revised data show that crude oil production on federally administered lands rose in the first three years of the Obama administration: from 575 million barrels in 2008, the last of the George W Bush years, to 646 million barrels in 2011.

Regulation & The Environment: just how much oil is coming out of federal waters? - The Barrel

 

[BlindBoo]

Oil fell to $10/barrel under Reagan

Which was the easy road that left us more dependant on foriegn oil than ever before. Which led to the collapse of the US Oil Patch. Thanks Ronnie.

Your hatred makes you look like an idiot.

Awwww, poor poor Raygun, the granddaddy of the pseudo-conservative movement.

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama-Bot programming: High Gas Prices under DA BOOOOOSH = BAAAAD!! High Gas Prices under the Dear Leader = GOOOOD!! You can't reason with them. Their robotic responses are pre-programmed and set on repeat. But it is fun watching them try to spin.

There it is, the mandatory Obama-bot insult.

Libo-Pauli you never disappoint.