Obama’s Legacy Has Already Been Destroyed By Andrew Sullivan

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They are no more fucked up than the Repubs, so it has to be more than just them being fucked up.

I didn't say they were fucked up, I said they fucked up - as verb, not a condition. Democrats were lazy, and shot their wad, choosing to foist major change on the nation without doing the hard work of building consensus first. Then, to compound their failure, they electioneered an opponent so bad that even Hillary could beat him. And here we are...

My apologies for mis-reading your post. I do agree they fucked up, but that is because they are fucked up. It is hard for people that are fucked up to do the right thing.

They all are effed up, they aren't there to do the right thing. They are there do the bidding of the money people, hence ratcheting up the borrowing and spending. It's also why things are heating up so quickly in the ME.

Now, that I can agree with.

Article out this morning about Russian Missile Launchers on the Syrian side of the Goal.

 

[Doc1]

And yet here you are complaining about the debt from Obama...you partisan hacks have very short memories.

William J. Clinton Presidency

The verdict is in - worst president ever.

Please repost where I ever complained about the debt.

I gave the links silly. Do you not know how a computer works?

Yes. I also know that commenting on nonsense claims concerning Obama and the debt is not complaining about said debt, but about the nonsense.

Oh...so you were not complaining about the debt, you were complaining about those complaining about the debt. I am sorry, I was mistaken.

I disagree with your view on the debt tough, just because we have always had debt does not make all debt equal.

Let's use me for an example. If I take out a mortgage for a house and pay it off on schedule, I will have debt for the next 30 years. But the fact I will have that debt does not somehow make it ok for me to live each month after that spending more than I bring in and adding more and more debt.

That is what our country is doing, and that is what you have no problem with. That is what makes you a "lefty". Nobody that supports a smaller government can support unlimited debt.

I don't, but neither do I get the vapors over it. 70% of the national debt is owed to ourselves.

Think that through Billy, we're paying interest on that 70%.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You also don't know what an investment is, or what a return on investment is, you willfully ignore valid points other people make in this case the Dem's responsibility for the rising deficit. You just continue spewing your nonsense, I think that's what people call trolling.

Quit with the fucking talking points.

Tell me what has the $537,883,433,862 worth of debt that has been added to our country in the last 4.2 months been invested in? What good will come from this
$537,883,433,862 worth of debt over the last 4.2 months?

The Dems, the Repubs and Trump are all complicit in it happening, that is what separates me from you fucking partisan zealots. You can only blame the other side, you cannot see the problems with your savoir, you cannot admit that he is not fucking walking on water and turning water into wine.

Lib please I have read your other posts you are not fooling anyone

You and all the other zealots keep saying this and yet not a single one of you have ever been able to produce even a single post to backup your claims.

It comes down to the fact that I will not kiss Trump's ass and in your fucked up mind that makes me a liberal. That is what happens when you whole world is broke into two groups, you do not have the intellectual capacity to grasp that some of us do not fall into those groups

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump's legacy will be a shitstain on US history for the next millennium.

He'll go out like Nixon did.

Trumps legacy will be as a punchline to describe failed presidencies

/----/ What failed Trump policies?

More than anything, his isolationism. We are not an island, we cannot pretend the rest of the world does not exist.

/---/ And for a generation, Libtards have screamed WE'RE NOT THE POLICEMAN OF THE WORLD. Go figure on your 180.

First, you are far more liberal than I am. And second, we can quit being the policemen of the world and still have viable trade deals with the rest of the world.

For us to quit being the police of the world does not also require economic isolationism.

 

[rightwinger]

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What does that have to do with the Great Obama?

 

[LoneLaugher]

From Sullivan’s article on Obama’s legacy

In economic policy, Obama’s slow winnowing of the deficit even in times of sluggish growth has been completely reversed. We too easily forget that the biggest accomplishment of Trump’s term in office so far — a massive increase in debt in a time of robust economic growth — is the inverse of Obama’s studied sense of fiscal responsibility. Nothing in modern fiscal history can match Trump’s recklessness — neither Reagan’s leap of faith nor George W. Bush’s profligacy — and it’s telling that the Democrats and the liberal intelligentsia have accommodated so swiftly to it. Nothing is so unfashionable right now as worrying about debt.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

We've been carrying debt since Alexander Hamilton had his feet up on the desk.

And yet here you are complaining about the debt from Obama...you partisan hacks have very short memories.

William J. Clinton Presidency

The verdict is in - worst president ever.

Please repost where I ever complained about the debt.

The biggest damage to the recovery was Republicans insisting that austerity spending was needed during a period of extreme recession

Throw on the brakes when we are trying to get the economic engine running again

Please show with reasonable detail how Obama's doubling of debt has resulted in getting "the economic engine running again".

First of all Obama has not doubled the debt
Secondly, the increase in the debt was a result of economic obligations made long before Obama took office

No other President has had to try to balance the budget during a major recession. Demanding it is pure idiocy.

Obama's national debt rate on track to double - Washington Times

National Debt has increased more under Obama than under Bush

Obama Has More Than Doubled Marketable U.S. Debt

Better find the other parts, or remain an idiot.

You complained. Plain as day.

 

[rightwinger]

It has only been a year. There are 7 more years to destroy what's left of the obamanation. His name needs to be destroyed. His family needs to be destroyed. He needs to be turned into the vocal manifestation of the curse he always was.

Crooked Donnie’s days are numbered

His administration is crashing around him

 

[LoneLaugher]

From Sullivan’s article on Obama’s legacy

In economic policy, Obama’s slow winnowing of the deficit even in times of sluggish growth has been completely reversed. We too easily forget that the biggest accomplishment of Trump’s term in office so far — a massive increase in debt in a time of robust economic growth — is the inverse of Obama’s studied sense of fiscal responsibility. Nothing in modern fiscal history can match Trump’s recklessness — neither Reagan’s leap of faith nor George W. Bush’s profligacy — and it’s telling that the Democrats and the liberal intelligentsia have accommodated so swiftly to it. Nothing is so unfashionable right now as worrying about debt.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

We've been carrying debt since Alexander Hamilton had his feet up on the desk.

And yet here you are complaining about the debt from Obama...you partisan hacks have very short memories.

William J. Clinton Presidency

The verdict is in - worst president ever.

Please repost where I ever complained about the debt.

^^^^ You suck at this.

You suck all around.

Maybe. Doesn’t help you any.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It has only been a year. There are 7 more years to destroy what's left of the obamanation. His name needs to be destroyed. His family needs to be destroyed. He needs to be turned into the vocal manifestation of the curse he always was.

Crooked Donnie’s days are numbered

His administration is crashing around him

No, really it is not. He will do out his 4 years and will likely end up the same as Bush I.

There will be no impeachment, there will be no indictment and nobody will get in trouble.

That is the way the game is played in this country.

 

[Camp]

It has only been a year. There are 7 more years to destroy what's left of the obamanation. His name needs to be destroyed. His family needs to be destroyed. He needs to be turned into the vocal manifestation of the curse he always was.

Crooked Donnie’s days are numbered

His administration is crashing around him

No, really it is not. He will do out his 4 years and will likely end up the same as Bush I.

There will be no impeachment, there will be no indictment and nobody will get in trouble.

That is the way the game is played in this country.

Trump is not playing the game by traditional and accepted rules. He may resign when and if he learns his kid(s) might be indicted by jurisdictions where he does not have pardon power. He may also try to make a deal if federal courts inform him that he may have to pay back all the funds he has collected from his hotels and golf courses as "emoluments".

 

[BluesLegend]

You also don't know what an investment is, or what a return on investment is, you willfully ignore valid points other people make in this case the Dem's responsibility for the rising deficit. You just continue spewing your nonsense, I think that's what people call trolling.

Quit with the fucking talking points.

Tell me what has the $537,883,433,862 worth of debt that has been added to our country in the last 4.2 months been invested in? What good will come from this
$537,883,433,862 worth of debt over the last 4.2 months?

The Dems, the Repubs and Trump are all complicit in it happening, that is what separates me from you fucking partisan zealots. You can only blame the other side, you cannot see the problems with your savoir, you cannot admit that he is not fucking walking on water and turning water into wine.

Lib please I have read your other posts you are not fooling anyone

You and all the other zealots keep saying this and yet not a single one of you have ever been able to produce even a single post to backup your claims.

It comes down to the fact that I will not kiss Trump's ass and in your fucked up mind that makes me a liberal. That is what happens when you whole world is broke into two groups, you do not have the intellectual capacity to grasp that some of us do not fall into those groups

 

[WillowTree]

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What does that have to do with the Great Obama?

Who?

 

[Bush92]

Obama was a failed president.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Hilarious? Sounds like a twelve year old's response? You're not twelve are you. Change comes slowly but much of the ideas and positives of Pres Obama remain. Draft dodger and liar in chief Donnie John can only do so much as his failure over the farm bill proves, and the morons that come and go in his administration demonstrate. Our stupid pres proves democracy sometimes proves Churchill's quip. Emotion and hate work on snowflakes of the right but real accomplishments rarely come when all you do is BS your followers.

'28 Of Barack Obama’s Greatest Achievements As President Of The United States'

28 Reasons Obama May Go Down As One Of The Greatest Presidents Of All Time

'President Obama will leave office with the longest consecutive job creation streak in 75 years.'

Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments

One of the great ones. Why Obama Will Go Down as One of the Greatest Presidents of All Time

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average [right wing conservative snowflake] voter." Winston Churchill

That list is a joke.
But your boy Andrew knows the facts....and he's one of you......

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Please repost where I ever complained about the debt.

I gave the links silly. Do you not know how a computer works?

Yes. I also know that commenting on nonsense claims concerning Obama and the debt is not complaining about said debt, but about the nonsense.

Oh...so you were not complaining about the debt, you were complaining about those complaining about the debt. I am sorry, I was mistaken.

I disagree with your view on the debt tough, just because we have always had debt does not make all debt equal.

Let's use me for an example. If I take out a mortgage for a house and pay it off on schedule, I will have debt for the next 30 years. But the fact I will have that debt does not somehow make it ok for me to live each month after that spending more than I bring in and adding more and more debt.

That is what our country is doing, and that is what you have no problem with. That is what makes you a "lefty". Nobody that supports a smaller government can support unlimited debt.

I don't, but neither do I get the vapors over it. 70% of the national debt is owed to ourselves.

Think that through Billy, we're paying interest on that 70%.

Who are we paying it to?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

We've been carrying debt since Alexander Hamilton had his feet up on the desk.

And yet here you are complaining about the debt from Obama...you partisan hacks have very short memories.

William J. Clinton Presidency

The verdict is in - worst president ever.

Please repost where I ever complained about the debt.

Please show with reasonable detail how Obama's doubling of debt has resulted in getting "the economic engine running again".

First of all Obama has not doubled the debt
Secondly, the increase in the debt was a result of economic obligations made long before Obama took office

No other President has had to try to balance the budget during a major recession. Demanding it is pure idiocy.

Obama's national debt rate on track to double - Washington Times

National Debt has increased more under Obama than under Bush

Obama Has More Than Doubled Marketable U.S. Debt

Better find the other parts, or remain an idiot.

You complained. Plain as day.

Okay, you're an idiot.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

We've been carrying debt since Alexander Hamilton had his feet up on the desk.

And yet here you are complaining about the debt from Obama...you partisan hacks have very short memories.

William J. Clinton Presidency

The verdict is in - worst president ever.

Please repost where I ever complained about the debt.

^^^^ You suck at this.

You suck all around.

Maybe. Doesn’t help you any.

I'm not the one who needs help here.

 

[WillowTree]

Trump's legacy will be a shitstain on US history for the next millennium.

He'll go out like Nixon did.

Trumps legacy will be as a punchline to describe failed presidencies

/----/ What failed Trump policies?

Destruction of long held alliances and treaties
Botching the Iran nuclear deal
Destruction of the environment
Adding massive debt in a strong economy
Kicking people off of healthcare

Do you have an example of destruction of the environment since Trump took office? Why haven’t we heard about it in the news? Are ewe blaming Trump for Kilauea?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You also don't know what an investment is, or what a return on investment is, you willfully ignore valid points other people make in this case the Dem's responsibility for the rising deficit. You just continue spewing your nonsense, I think that's what people call trolling.

Quit with the fucking talking points.

Tell me what has the $537,883,433,862 worth of debt that has been added to our country in the last 4.2 months been invested in? What good will come from this
$537,883,433,862 worth of debt over the last 4.2 months?

The Dems, the Repubs and Trump are all complicit in it happening, that is what separates me from you fucking partisan zealots. You can only blame the other side, you cannot see the problems with your savoir, you cannot admit that he is not fucking walking on water and turning water into wine.

Lib please I have read your other posts you are not fooling anyone

You and all the other zealots keep saying this and yet not a single one of you have ever been able to produce even a single post to backup your claims.

It comes down to the fact that I will not kiss Trump's ass and in your fucked up mind that makes me a liberal. That is what happens when you whole world is broke into two groups, you do not have the intellectual capacity to grasp that some of us do not fall into those groups

And this is the basic response I get every time I challenge one of you lying fucking bastards to provide even a single post to backup your claims about me.

And yet it never, ever happens, not even once.

That is because you are all a bunch of liars

 

[Wyatt earp]

What is TOO funny is the fact that the OP did not read the article that he cited.

The headline is boner material for him. But had he read the article, he’d have needed a fluffer. It is not complimentary to the idiot in the White House.

Moron.

I did read the entire article, that's why it was hilarious ...