Discussion in 'Politics' started by ScreamingEagle, Jul 1, 2009.
Obama's honeymoon is officially over:
Of course it's HIS recession. It's a no-brainer. But that's not to say HE CAUSED IT. Also a no-brainer.
It's official: U.S. in a recession since December 2007 - Dec. 1, 2008
The current recession is one of the longest downturns since the Great Depression of the 1930's.
The last two recessions (1990-1991 and 2001) lasted eight months each, and only two of the 10 previous post-Depression downturns lasted as long as a full year,
Let's all hold hands and blame it on Bush... Truly you don't think any of this could possibly be Obama's fault! I'm shocked. He's going to spend us back into prosperity. The large number of unemployed people can be supported by Obama's give away programs. No need for worry. The government is going to take care of you from craddle to grave. When you die you will be just like you were when you were born, i.e., naked and broke!
What Obama WILL do, and what Bush DID do are two issues. The thread's title is that Obama "owns" the recession. The hell he does...
No matter how hard you people try to pretend that George W. Bush's own policies did not have a dramatic effect on today's economic situation, it just won't fly. You can't possibly be that stupid.
Obama said he wanted to get away from the failed policies of the past. He didn't do that, instead he embraced FDR's failed policies from the past that extended the Great Depression for ten years, and looky here -- these same failed policies of the past are extending THIS economic downturn!
And if he gets his way with Cap and Tax, he'll successfully turn this recession into a depression. Today's jobless numbers are quite alarming, and it's only going to get worse.
Where's all the "shovel-ready" jobs we were promised? You know, the ones we needed right away, hence the need to pass the scamwow stimulus bill so fast no one had time to actually read it?
BO did not cause it, Bush did.
BO prolonged it and made it worse.
What a great POTUS he is not.
B*O* is a C*F*
It's not debatable that Obama caused this recession. No one's making that argument. He didn't.
It IS debatable whether it can be attributed to Booooosh however. Like the Titanic sinking, many variables had to come into play to get what we got. Including, just like the Titanic, the Captain's mistakes, actions or inactions... The lookouts, didn't get their assigned field glasses... The first officer's mistaken maneuvering of the ship due to lack of knowledge of how to properly turn it..... The design flaws, the poor-grade, brittle steel and the defective rivets, hell even the weather and sea conditions that night contributed. You can't rationally blame them all on the Captain. Just like you cannot pretend to be rational and blame the recession entirely on Booooosh.
First of all, there is no consensus that FDR's policies were a "failure." Quite the opposite. Second, the Stimulus Bill was indeed R.E.A.D. Otherwise, how did the cons know which parts they didn't like (or invented, like the San Francisco "mouse" that involved protection of wetlands, not mice)? Third, the shovel-ready projects ARE getting done, just obviously not as miraculously with the speed of light as you people would like. You can go to any number of websites that I've posted ad nauseam (and none of you bother to look at) and follow the progress, PER PROJECT, PER STATE.
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