Obama's Checklist? Predictions?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PoliticalChic, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. PoliticalChic
    Online

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,765
    Thanks Received:
    15,641
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,936
    I've identified the following Deadly Dozen as motivators for many of those who voted against Obama. How many will be part of his agenda?

    1. Universal Health Care
    2. Global Warming Taxes, Cap and Trade
    3. Raising a Multitude of Taxes
    4. Left Wing Supreme Court Justices
    5. Restrict Right Wing Radio, Fairness Doctrine
    6. Restrict Drilling for Oil and Natural Gas
    7. Change Policy in the Middle East and Abandon Israel
    8. Impose Card Check to Prevent Secret Ballot in Union Elections
    9. Myriad of Hearings Aimed at Former Bush Officials
    10. Reparations in Some Form
    11. Ban or Restrict Guns
    12. Form a "Civilian National Security Force that's just as powerful, just as well-funded" as the military
     
  2. DiamondDave
    Offline

    DiamondDave Army Vet

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    18,169
    Thanks Received:
    2,812
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Location:
    MD, on the Potomac River
    Ratings:
    +2,816
    Personally I have not seen much about him trying to ban or restrict guns
     
  3. Annie
    Offline

    Annie Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    50,847
    Thanks Received:
    4,644
    Trophy Points:
    1,790
    Ratings:
    +4,770
    So far, then again with the last SCOTUS ruling, he may just hold off on that. The others? Well it depends upon what he really wants. None of us know. Not on the right or left.

    From news reports my glimmers:

    Gitmo
    avoiding confrontations with Russia (if so, he handled very badly)
    stem cell research

    That's it.
     
  4. glockmail
    Offline

    glockmail BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2006
    Messages:
    7,700
    Thanks Received:
    433
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    The beautiful Yadkin Valley
    Ratings:
    +438
    Today's paper reported orgasmically that Obama's first executive orders will be to fund fetal stem cell research and then ban oil and gas drilling.

    Both appease his far left base and are technologically without merit. The drilling thing will increase fuel costs, weaken the US and embolden our enemies. So far he's right on track to Carter II. :clap2:
     
  5. Turboswede
    Offline

    Turboswede Very Metal

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    487
    Thanks Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    The Emerald City (Seattle), USA
    Ratings:
    +58
    Universal Health Care
    Will not happen in his 1st term, may change the tax code to allow individuals to deduct insurance premiums and may remove the limit on AGI for taking healthcare deductions on federal taxes. Could more for curtailing ERISA and allowing states more authority to regulate insurance backed employee health plans within the states (i.e. limit federal preemption).

    2nd term may develop some form of voluntary federal insurance plan which allows employers the option of going with private insurers or buying into a federal insurance plan. Federal plan could then help in regulating insurance premiums by raising or lowering the federal insurance premium. Kind of ho the Fed regulates interest rates by adjusting the overnight lending rate.

    We will not see a massive mandatory social insurance plan because this is a big vote loser, subsidized health insurance is the goal, but it’s not going to be implimented in a way that will drive private insurers out of business.

    If GM or Ford declare cpt. 11 and can renegotiate union contracts, I predict the federal insurance will pick up the worker & retiree medical because I doubt if anyone else in the market will.

    Global Warming Taxes, Cap and Trade
    Maybe a carbon emissions tax in his 2nd term, expect to see lots of talk and very little action as gas prices continue to tumble.

    Raising a Multitude of Taxes
    Buzzword from the Obama financial team is “Broadening the Base” so expect to see substantial changes in the tax code regarding corporate deductions for executive compensation and net operating loss carry forwards. Corporate rate may go as high as 39% (under Regan it was 50%).

    The Estate tax will be renewed (it is set to expire in 2009) at current levels.

    Expect the SSI wage base to increase to $250,000 for 2009.

    The federal itemized deduction phase-out will return to its 2004 level of 6%.

    The IRS audit focus will shift from EITC recipients to individuals paying the Alternate Minimum Tax in order to capture more revenue from non compliance.

    Capital gains treatment for qualified dividends will be eliminated and the top marginal rate may go as high as 39%.

    Left Wing Supreme Court Justices
    Probably not a significant issue as the conservatives on the bench are (relatively) young and vital. Any conservative retirements will probably wait until 2010 and see how the congressional elections pan out. The only one I could realistically see leaving is Stevens and he is considered (by most conservatives) as a liberal already.

    Restrict Right Wing Radio, Fairness Doctrine
    As a democrat and an Obama voter, I would have a very hard time on this issue. I doubt Obama will make any move here as it would alienate a large portion of his base (think ACLU members)

    Restrict Drilling for Oil and Natural Gas
    He will do this in his 1st term and become more aggressive as oil prices fall. Falling oil prices mean less backing for drilling by oil companies and more support from the American public.

    Change Policy in the Middle East and Abandon Israel
    Policy will change in Iraq, there is no way he will abandon Israel given the support (and funding) provided by various Jewish groups to his campaign.

    Impose Card Check to Prevent Secret Ballot in Union Elections
    He may do this, although if GM or Ford go into cpt 11 they can renegotiate collectively bargained agreements so Organized Labor and the UAW may not have a pot to piss in by 2012 either way.

    Myriad of Hearings Aimed at Former Bush Officials
    Doubt it but it is possible, it depends on how easy it is to prove the links to possible illegal actions and how much the democratic base is out for blood. Personally I think it’s a waste of time given the challenges America is currently facing. This may become a bigger focus in Obama’s 2nd term if the economy and the war settle down.

    Reparations in Some Form
    Doubt it, this would cause an even deeper rift in race relations. I would not be surprised if an Obama administration rolls back existing affirmative action policies.

    Ban or Restrict Guns
    Not unless there is another school shooting or other incident that raises popular support for a restriction on specific firearms.

    Form a "Civilian National Security Force that's just as powerful, just as well-funded" as the military
    I hope not, where the hell are we going to find another $500,000,000,000 to fund a program the size of the military. I think in the end this is just going to boil down to a reorganization of the Department for Homeland Security and keep its $150,000,000,000 budget but have federal employees rather than independent contractors performing services for the TSA, etc.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 3
  6. PoliticalChic
    Online

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,765
    Thanks Received:
    15,641
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,936
    Very thoughtful answer.
     
  7. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,617
    Universal Health Care

    I sincerely hope not until they do something about capping costs, first

    Global Warming Taxes, Cap and Trade

    Likely, but compromised into meaninglessness

    Raising a Multitude of Taxes

    Likely

    Left Wing Supreme Court Justices

    Left wing? Moderate? Radical? All in the eyes of the beholder

    Restrict Right Wing Radio, Fairness Doctrine

    Don't think that was a plank of his

    Restrict Drilling for Oil and Natural Gas

    I don't think that was one of his planks, either

    Change Policy in the Middle East and Abandon Israel

    Not a chance, not part of his platform

    Impose Card Check to Prevent Secret Ballot in Union Elections

    Still trying to figure this issue out

    Myriad of Hearings Aimed at Former Bush Officials

    One can hope they go after corruption. I'm nominating Senator Susan Collins (R) of Maine to head that commission.


    Reparations in Some Form

    Total blather to suggest he ever considered such a goofy idea.

    Ban or Restrict Guns

    Not part of his agenda, either.

    Form a "Civilian National Security Force that's just as powerful, just as well-funded" as the military

    As well funded? Not gonna happen.

    He'll pump up VISTA and AMERICORPS budgets perhaps.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2008
  8. PoliticalChic
    Online

    PoliticalChic Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Messages:
    55,765
    Thanks Received:
    15,641
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    Ratings:
    +24,936
     
  9. random3434
    Offline

    random3434 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    Messages:
    25,903
    Thanks Received:
    7,188
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +7,194
    I agree, nice job answering PoliticalChic's questions Turboswede!



    This is America, innocent until proven guilty, right?
     
  10. Annie
    Offline

    Annie Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    50,847
    Thanks Received:
    4,644
    Trophy Points:
    1,790
    Ratings:
    +4,770
    This is one post that gives me hope that some on the left are thinking. Good job!

    Specific on what an Obama supporter thinks. I truly hope Obama comes close. :clap2:
     

Share This Page