Obamacare to cost $1.76 trillion over 10 yrs

[thereisnospoon]

Says your average Fox soaked brain. Probably thinks Medicare is a private entity as well as the Fire Dept, Police, public schools, roads, bridges...stupid fool, that she/he is.

Oh please. Once you start with using public services as an offset to Obamacare, you lose the argument.
Public safety is an essential form of government. Interfering with medical are and health insurance is not.
BTW, under Obamacare, Medicare funding is cut in HALF. A fact you libs refuse to acknowledge

I mean no harm, but you match the definition of a fox soaked brain. You spout nonsense thinking you are an informed poster not ever realizing what you appear to be to one who is. I've been around long enough to know that responding to each of your misinformation comments...is useless. Research research research republican...so you do not come to these boards looking so stupid.

Misinformation? You go ahead a provide examples of my alleged misinformation.

Yes you command all to pay attention ONLY to the liberal bias of the other network news casts. After all it is they who are the establishment.
We are supposed to kneel at the altar of ABC CBS NBC CNN and MSNBC.
You libs are just pissed because Fox news crushes the old alphabets in ratings.
You go ahead and keep referring to me as stupid and watch the response. I will bury you.
Do yourself a favor and don't make this personal.

 

[starcraftzzz]

Pleasant? For whom?
My health insurance cost will rise by 250% under Obamacare.

No actually Obamacare is expected to lower total health costrs by 0.1%-0.2% per year
Ezra Klein - Does health-care reform bend the cost curve up?
The Impact of Health Reform on Health System Spending
Also Obamacare is expected and estimated to lower premiums by several thousand dollars a year.

the only people who will benefit are those making under 400% of the poverty line. Everyone else pays HUGE.

Nope no due to Obamacare insurance companies will be barred from dropping coverage, capping benefits, and discriminating against ALL people. ALL people will now be able to access preventative care free of charge. Everyone premiums are estimated to go down. Due to negotiated drug prices and lowering patent years ALL people will now have lower proscription drug costs. More people will be able to access employer wellness programs. ALL people will benefit from new health research, ALL people will benefit from the 40% drop in medical errors due to computerized records etc etc etc

The producers will pay while we all get rationed care.

Under Obamacare health care will be less rationed, because under Obamacare 35million more people will have access to health insurance. Also under Obamacare insteadof insurance bureaucrats making your health decisions doctors will.

Those who support Obamacare are socialists and other parasitic globs of organic matter.

Na you're just 100% clueless and brainwashed

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Pleasant? For whom?
My health insurance cost will rise by 250% under Obamacare.

No actually Obamacare is expected to lower total health costrs by 0.1%-0.2% per year
Ezra Klein - Does health-care reform bend the cost curve up?
The Impact of Health Reform on Health System Spending
Also Obamacare is expected and estimated to lower premiums by several thousand dollars a year.

the only people who will benefit are those making under 400% of the poverty line. Everyone else pays HUGE.

Nope no due to Obamacare insurance companies will be barred from dropping coverage, capping benefits, and discriminating against ALL people. ALL people will now be able to access preventative care free of charge. Everyone premiums are estimated to go down. Due to negotiated drug prices and lowering patent years ALL people will now have lower proscription drug costs. More people will be able to access employer wellness programs. ALL people will benefit from new health research, ALL people will benefit from the 40% drop in medical errors due to computerized records etc etc etc

The producers will pay while we all get rationed care.

Under Obamacare health care will be less rationed, because under Obamacare 35million more people will have access to health insurance. Also under Obamacare insteadof insurance bureaucrats making your health decisions doctors will.

Those who support Obamacare are socialists and other parasitic globs of organic matter.

Na you're just 100% clueless and brainwashed

Save your breath spoon. this is the same guy who tried to argue that the 2009FY budget was for 2010.

 

[starcraftzzz]

No, the main reason the costs are higher is the CBO is projecting a higher cost for Medicaid as Obamacare kicks in. Read the report so you can respond intelligently.

It is far from the first time Mother Jones has been caught lying, it won't be the last.

No actually due to computerized records, the IMBD board, bundled payment reform, negotiated drugs, and other reforms Medicaid spending per person will be less then it was before Obamacare

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No, the main reason the costs are higher is the CBO is projecting a higher cost for Medicaid as Obamacare kicks in. Read the report so you can respond intelligently.

It is far from the first time Mother Jones has been caught lying, it won't be the last.

No actually due to computerized records, the IMBD board, bundled payment reform, negotiated drugs, and other reforms Medicaid spending per person will be less then it was before Obamacare

The costs are higher because of all the things that are going to save money?

 

[bayoubridge]

Oh please. Once you start with using public services as an offset to Obamacare, you lose the argument.
Public safety is an essential form of government. Interfering with medical are and health insurance is not.
BTW, under Obamacare, Medicare funding is cut in HALF. A fact you libs refuse to acknowledge

I mean no harm, but you match the definition of a fox soaked brain. You spout nonsense thinking you are an informed poster not ever realizing what you appear to be to one who is. I've been around long enough to know that responding to each of your misinformation comments...is useless. Research research research republican...so you do not come to these boards looking so stupid.

Misinformation? You go ahead a provide examples of my alleged misinformation.

Yes you command all to pay attention ONLY to the liberal bias of the other network news casts. After all it is they who are the establishment.
We are supposed to kneel at the altar of ABC CBS NBC CNN and MSNBC.
You libs are just pissed because Fox news crushes the old alphabets in ratings.
You go ahead and keep referring to me as stupid and watch the response. I will bury you.
Do yourself a favor and don't make this personal.

You can't be serious...lol. You post an awful lot so I most certainly will not take responsibility for exposing your stupidity. Cable news means nothing and FOX comes free with all packages, other cable news networks do not. I travel and MSNBC is rarely available in hotels but FOX is always available. You are among a very tiny segment of the population who thinks otherwise. Nothing I can do about that.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Pleasant? For whom?
My health insurance cost will rise by 250% under Obamacare.

No actually Obamacare is expected to lower total health costrs by 0.1%-0.2% per year
Ezra Klein - Does health-care reform bend the cost curve up?
The Impact of Health Reform on Health System Spending
Also Obamacare is expected and estimated to lower premiums by several thousand dollars a year.

the only people who will benefit are those making under 400% of the poverty line. Everyone else pays HUGE.

Nope no due to Obamacare insurance companies will be barred from dropping coverage, capping benefits, and discriminating against ALL people. ALL people will now be able to access preventative care free of charge. Everyone premiums are estimated to go down. Due to negotiated drug prices and lowering patent years ALL people will now have lower proscription drug costs. More people will be able to access employer wellness programs. ALL people will benefit from new health research, ALL people will benefit from the 40% drop in medical errors due to computerized records etc etc etc

The producers will pay while we all get rationed care.

Under Obamacare health care will be less rationed, because under Obamacare 35million more people will have access to health insurance. Also under Obamacare insteadof insurance bureaucrats making your health decisions doctors will.

Those who support Obamacare are socialists and other parasitic globs of organic matter.

Na you're just 100% clueless and brainwashed

Don't tell me shit that isn't true.
Obama care will cost 18% of our gross income.
Obama care will lower 'price' to the consumer provided they earn less than 400% of poverty. After that the 'price' skyrocket.
One of the important aspects of this is the use of the word "cost". Or it's misuse.
Obama care does not reduce "cost". Cost is the net amount of revenue less capital outlay for the business. Costs can be controlled but oly at the expense of the business. Costs are passed along to the end user. Obamacare does not take into consideration that costs always rise and so does price. Obamacare "fixes" prices and the business, in this case the insurance company, is left to absorb the rising costs with nowhere to turn. The end result will be the insurance companies will refuse to write health coverage. Obama gets his precious socialized medicine. If that happens, nobody wins. This is a huge job killer. Hundreds of thousands of workers in the insurance business will lose their jobs. And you selfish libs don't give a shit. As long as you are comfy with the belief that you will somehow get medical care at someone else's expense, you're happy.
Yeah right. Some liberal in the bag for Obama writer throws some stats out there in support of the this $1.75 trillion boondoggle and we're supposed to just swallow the baited hook. Ok, sure.
No insurance company will be able to write health insurance under those conditions. Which is the primary purpose of Obamacare. To put private health insurers out of business. Obamacare is a precursor to taxpayer funded government controlled, rationed care, socialized medicine.
Look here genius, no matter how you libs spin this, there is no such thing as free.
The confiscatory tax rates paid by our Western European counterparts tells that story.
Enough of this shit.
Obama WILL NOT survive intact. The sooner you get used to that fact, the better off you'll be. Stop insisting this is a good thing. It sucks sideways for every single middle income and upward earner.
SO far your argument is based on "expected" "estimated" and "anticipated"....
Question.....When have you ever known ANYTHING run. operated or administered by the US federal government to function on time within budget and as planned?
You come up with an example of that and we'll have something to discuss.
As a hard working taxpayer I am all out of politicians and bureaucrats telling us "just one more chance and I promise this time it will work"....
Based on the fact that government cannot do anything as planned and within the cost parameters originally publicized, I don;t expect to hear back from you on this.
Don't give me a bunch of opinion from left wing scribes that use "anticipated, "Expected" or "estimated" ever again. GO get me some facts.