Obamacare Mess!

[RKMBrown]

The solution is to go back to the way HC was handled way back when, and force government to do their job in breaking up the monopolies and oligopolies. Then we'll have a free market again and the price of health care will fall to 1/10th what it is today.

When was that again?

As far back as you democrats are willing to compromise on. How about back to Clinton?

I'm not a democrat. So, when was that again?

You're not allowed to claim you are conservative or even independent after stating that you want a socialist system for health care. But you can admit you are a communist if you like. What part of back to Clinton went over your head?

I am an independent.
You're just an idiot.

Missing the part were you repair the problems that were there before the health care reform.

Your the fool claiming to be an independent while wanting socialist health care. How is that being independent?

As for repair... I thought we had that discussion already. Break up the corporate and government monopolies. This will bring about free market solutions.

 

[eagle1462010]

When was that again?

As far back as you democrats are willing to compromise on. How about back to Clinton?

I'm not a democrat. So, when was that again?

You're not allowed to claim you are conservative or even independent after stating that you want a socialist system for health care. But you can admit you are a communist if you like. What part of back to Clinton went over your head?

I am an independent.
You're just an idiot.

Missing the part were you repair the problems that were there before the health care reform.

Your the fool claiming to be an independent while wanting socialist health care. How is that being independent?

As for repair... I thought we had that discussion already. Break up the corporate and government monopolies. This will bring about free market solutions.

Her only solution is Universal Care, which is socialist period.

There have been other solutions presented..........gasp by the GOP.........Including the high risk pools that didn't include some of the dumb ass provisions of Obamacare which has not done what it stated it would do. Bring down medical costs. Costs continue to rise even in the exchanges............and dramatically in all other areas...........Which means it was only to find a way to pay for it all and regulate that everyone get everything under the sun in their plans..........It produced high deduct plans that protected against high cost medical procedures and pretty much did away with coverage for normal visits..........as it is on the consumer to pay for service under the lower plans anyway................

The high risk pools under the GOP plan did this via direct subsidies of 10 Billion a year and tax credits to lower the costs for those with pre-existing conditions..............the poor will still have to pay for most of their visits, and have to come up with thousands of dollars for any surgery. These are the least able to afford this, and will still be in a financial situation.

Of course they wanted expansion of Medicare in all the states which equates to FREE medical coverage even though the federal gov't and state gov't are already having difficulty paying the bills for this already.

This was not the correct solution, and had the dems REALLY NEGOTIATED THIS LAW it is possible a law could have been passed with MAJOR BENDING from both sides.............The Dems didn't do this........It was a my way or the highway bill under a temporary majority.............Leaving continued battles on the subject until it is repealed and or replaced.

 

[eagle1462010]

Here s your demonstration project Mr. President -- it s called Mississippi WashingtonExaminer.com

That is the story that Mississippi's Republican, governor, Haley Barbour, offered on Friday, speaking at the Heritage Foundation. He also made an observation about President Obama's decision to offer only token "demonstration projects" on lawsuit abuse rather than address it meaningfully in his health care reform proposal.

"It's mysterious to me that the administration and the leadership of Congress talk about health care reform and the goal of reducing costs, and yet refuse to put tort reform into the legislation," he said. "I believe $200, $250 billion a year in health care costs is caused by litigation. It may be more than that. But this is the lowest hanging fruit, this ain't rocket science. If they want a demonstration project, come down to Mississippi, and I'll show you a demonstration project." (Last month, Barbour wrote this op-ed for The Examiner on insurance reform.)

Mississippi's reforms were truly sweeping. The new laws:

• Changed rules of venue, to prevent abusive court-shopping.
• Got rid of the rule of "joint and several liability" -- as Barbour put it, in order to protect the defendant who is only "2 percent negligent" but who has the "deep pockets" that trial lawyers look for when deciding whom to sue.
• Protect innocent landowners and sellers of products. Under the reforms, "if a pharmacist is selling a drug that the FDA has said is appropriate for the purpose it says it's used for, unless the pharmacist knows it has been tampered with, then that pharmacist is immune," said Barbour.
• Put caps on punitive damages, with a sliding scale based on the size of the defendant corporation.
• Put caps on non-economic damages, particularly to deal with medical malpractice liability.

Tort reform made Mississippi liveable for small business and for doctors and hospitals, Barbour said, but it wasn't easy to pass. He discussed the conditions needed to pass it in a state -- chief among which was heavy and involved support from the governor.

 

[eagle1462010]

Tort reform has shown success to lower premiums. Malpractice insurance cost doctors and hospitals a lot of money every year which leads to higher premiums and higher medical costs. It should have been in the law.................

It doesn't mean you can't sue.........it means the ridiculous settlements need to end as does the lawyer taking everything after it's over needs to end. It has a proven track record.

but but but...........it didn't get included did it.......................ways to LOWER THE COST..........which was supposed to be the ultimate goal.

Under that ultimate goal of lower costs...............the ACA has FAILED.

 

[Brrainstormerr]

What Obamacare needs is robust private exchange solutions. I guess there are 5 key elements that separate successful exchange solutions from the ones that failed. This blog drives these points home:
5 Key Elements of a Successful Private Exchange Solution