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In 4 Short Weeks, The Administration Claims Obamacare Has Achieved 'Private Sector Effectiveness'

In 4 Short Weeks, The Administration Claims Obamacare Has Achieved 'Private Sector Effectiveness' | Zero Hedge

As we noted last month, President Obama sat down for an interview with Chuck Todd on November 7 and said:

You know, one of the lessons — learned from this whole process on the website — is that probably the biggest gap between the private sector and the federal government is when it comes to I.T. … Well, the reason is is that when it comes to my campaign, I’m not constrained by a bunch of federal procurement rules, right? …When we buy I.T. services generally, it is so bureaucratic and so cumbersome that a whole bunch of it doesn’t work or it ends up being way over cost.

Well, this week we learned that the gap’s been closed. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) told us so. In its official, December 1 “Progress and Performance Report” on the Obamacare website, HHS not only announced that it had “met the goal of having a system that will work smoothly for the vast majority of users,” but wrote that “the team is operating with private sector velocity and effectiveness.” That sure was quick.

And while we may never know the true extent of the administration’s deceptions, here are a few links to information that Zientz doesn’t want you to have:

CNN reports that “the White House is exerting massive pressure on the industry, including the trade associations to keep quiet … insurance executive feel defenseless against the White House PR team … the insurance companies are in a position to just be quiet for fear of offending basically their biggest source of income.”

In one of what we suspect are multiple methods of inflating its enrollment counts, HHS flouts industry standards by including “enrollees” who didn’t complete the process by continuing to the payment step. This detail is, of course, absent from official reports. (It was shared with the Washington Post by anonymous sources.)

Prior to and immediately after the website’s October 1 launch, HHS head Karen Sebelius kept a close wrap on all sorts of critical information, including the website’s developmental progress, initial effectiveness, the true reasons for its early breakdowns, and expenses (which were only revealed through Bloomberg’s analysis linked above and other third-party estimates).

This last link comes off as a total non sequitur, but I’ll share it anyway because I read the NSA’s Thanksgiving memo on the same day as HHS’s report and it was the combination of these two gems that motivated me to get this post out. As discussed here by Tyler Durden and Monty Pelerin, there’s a common thread running through this year’s Obamacare and NSA revelations. In case you missed the NSA’s latest, the institution’s leaders took it upon themselves to guide employees on how they should speak with friends and family over the holidays. Just when I thought we’d reached peak weirdness with NSA head Keith Alexander’s Starship Enterprise control room designs and porn use monitoring, the information gets even weirder.
 
Just because it is a government report doesn't mean it has a liberal bias. Christ grow up.

You obviously don't read what you post. The first article only refers to one specific poll which implies the ObamaCare rollout only has a very slight negative impact on the economy at best. The second article is simply reporting what republicans are saying about it lol. Obviously that is biased.

Oh, but read my post again, oh wise one.

-Many businesses are already seeing their health care costs increasing because of the law. To cope, 31% of franchise and 12% of non-franchise businesses have already reduced worker hours, a full year before the employer mandate goes into effect.

- Additionally, 27% of franchise and 12% of non-franchise businesses have already replaced full-time workers with part-time employees. Other cost control methods cited by survey participants included hiring only temporary help and cutting benefits and bonuses.

Presentation of Findings from National Research Conducted Among Business Decision?Makers | U.S. Chamber of Commerce

But that article doesn't contradict the fed article. The fed article says ObamaCare may have a "small" effect on the economy. Also, the fed article is talking about new jobs. It is not talking about how businesses are cutting hours.

Sorry, that covers existing employees too. Or were you not reading the last point? Sure, all of those businesses surveyed represented 42 million jobs. "Small" isn't the word you're looking for.
 

But that article doesn't contradict the fed article. The fed article says ObamaCare may have a "small" effect on the economy. Also, the fed article is talking about new jobs. It is not talking about how businesses are cutting hours.

Sorry, that covers existing employees too. Or were you not reading the last point? Sure, all of those businesses surveyed represented 42 million jobs. "Small" isn't the word you're looking for.

I'll admit your article is telling, but it is one survey. What matters is overall economic impact. There is no evidence ObamaCare has a SIGNIFICANT impact on the OVERALL economy.

Lol I love how you cite a government article yet the one Boop cited is of course biased.
 
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But that article doesn't contradict the fed article. The fed article says ObamaCare may have a "small" effect on the economy. Also, the fed article is talking about new jobs. It is not talking about how businesses are cutting hours.

Sorry, that covers existing employees too. Or were you not reading the last point? Sure, all of those businesses surveyed represented 42 million jobs. "Small" isn't the word you're looking for.

I'll admit your article is telling, but it is one survey. What matters is overall economic impact. There is no evidence ObamaCare has a SIGNIFICANT impact on the OVERALL economy.

Lol I love how you cite a government article yet the one Boop cited is of course biased.

Given what I saw on the comment board in her article, you have hordes of liberals agreeing with it. I didn't find one discernible conservative post in the lot.

And don't try to move the goalposts. The overall economy includes those businesses in the poll. Don't pull that garbage with me, Billy.
 
Sorry, that covers existing employees too. Or were you not reading the last point? Sure, all of those businesses surveyed represented 42 million jobs. "Small" isn't the word you're looking for.

I'll admit your article is telling, but it is one survey. What matters is overall economic impact. There is no evidence ObamaCare has a SIGNIFICANT impact on the OVERALL economy.

Lol I love how you cite a government article yet the one Boop cited is of course biased.

Given what I saw on the comment board in her article, you have hordes of liberals agreeing with it. I didn't find one discernible conservative post in the lot.

And don't try to move the goalposts. The overall economy includes those businesses in the poll. Don't pull that garbage with me, Billy.

Lol since when does it matter what people in the comment section think?

One survey. That's it.
 
In small towns a boom like this can make or break them. You get Keystone with high paid welders coming in, literally you're setting off a financial YAY!!!!!! FIRESTORM!!!!! because they get the high paying money and the guys lay it out on the day to day.
Sure.

But, this is the way stimulus works for any infrastructure project.

It could have been bridges, schools, or something else that we actually need.

The keystone pipeline is oriented to raising the price of oil in the midwest and Canada - something we really don't have to do.

i do not know about your area.., BUT !

TUSD to close 11 schools to chip away at $17 million shortfall

The TUSD Governing Board approved closing 11 schools for the upcoming school year, but saved three others from being shuttered. The closures are part of an effort to bridge a $17 million budget shortfall.

seems like building more schools is a huge waste of $$$$$$$$$$$, if your area needs a school, come get one of these 11 closed schools. i have said for a long time there are too many schools........, but, that is just my OPINION !!
 
seems like building more schools is a huge waste of $$$$$$$$$$$, if your area needs a school, come get one of these 11 closed schools. i have said for a long time there are too many schools........, but, that is just my OPINION !!
I don't see your opinion being supported by anybody in the article you posted.
 
Obamacare has been a drag on jobs since 2009 and there's no end in sight.

Republicans pass bills and Reid won't put them up for a vote.

Nonsense:

Opinion: Obamacare isn't destroying jobs - Jared Bernstein and Paul Van de Water - POLITICO.com

And since 2009 republicans have done nothing but obstruct legislation designed to address jobs and the economy – McConnell himself sanctioned the GOP’s strategy of obstructionism, all in an effort to make Obama a ‘one-term president.’


It's not nonsense. Your link even acknowledges a drag but writes it off as small. Any drag during a fragile economy is sad. And it would likely have been worse if Obama didn't read the writing on the wall and kick the employer mandate can down the road a year.

And there's still the glaring fact that if Obama hadn't done the ACA to begin with we could have been in a robust recovery. Obama wasted the stimulus. It could have been used to give the recovery traction. Instead it was squandered. Obama didn't pay attention to how it was being used. Instead of focusing on the infrastructure he claims to value, he gave us the ACA which made hiring considerations even more complicated than they already were, with the promise of even more complications to come as the admin finished writing the regulations.
 
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And since 2009 republicans have done nothing but obstruct legislation designed to address jobs and the economy – McConnell himself sanctioned the GOP’s strategy of obstructionism, all in an effort to make Obama a ‘one-term president.’


You're going to go to your grave repeating the lies about McConnell's "one-term president" statement, aren't you?

That was made shortly before the election of 2010, in the context of what would be needed in order to repeal the damaging ACA. McConnell acknowledged that even if the GOP took the senate in 2010, they would still need to take the White House in 2012 in order to put the brakes on the damage we are now seeing unfold before our eyes.

It's so sad to be right about this. I wish we could have avoided this damage to begin with. And we could have if Democrats had passed legislation they didn't need to lie about.

But Obama has been lying about healthcare since at least 2008. Democrats in Washington have joined with him in the lies since at least 2009. And you join them to this day.
 
Ah yes, somehow Obama doesn't have control over the price of gas, but somehow he can wave his magic wand and miraculously add hundreds of thousands of jobs to the economy. Right. If he had that kind of control, he would be God.

Except that there is clear cut evidence his stimulus package created millions of jobs.

Not again.

Clear ?

This place needs some Preparation H.
 
According to a United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection poll released Monday, an overwhelming majority of Americans want Congress and President Barack Obama to focus on job creation more than any other issue — including health care.

The poll finds that by more than a 3-1 margin, voters would be “very pleased” or “somewhat pleased,” if the president and Congress worked together to create more jobs, as opposed to “very disappointed” or “somewhat disappointed.” Surprisingly, voters expressed very little partisan variation on how they hope the president and lawmakers create more jobs; 75 percent say they would be “pleased” or “very pleased” if jobs were created by reducing taxes and regulation – generally a Republican position – and 77 percent said the same about increasing investment in infrastructure projects, which Democrats tend to favor.

The findings should serve as a wakeup call for congressional Republicans, who have dedicated a great amount of their time to attacking the Affordable Care Act and its troubled rollout, and now say there is little left for them to do anything else.

According to The New York Times, U.S. Representative Reid Ribble (R-WI) even claimed that his constituents would not “want me to be overaggressive in writing new laws.” The new poll suggests that his constituents would disagree.

Besides job creation, other issues important to voters include gun and immigration reforms. According to the poll, 74 percent would be happy if lawmakers approved a proposal to expand background checks for gun purchases; only 22 percent said they would be unhappy if the legislation passed. Support for the issue split among partisan lines with nearly 75 percent of Democrats saying they would be “very pleased” if the measure passed, while only 38 percent of Republicans said the same. Still, a majority of GOP voters, 66 percent, did say they would be “somewhat pleased” by the legislation.

Looks like the echo chamber didn't get the memo. In 2010, the TPM won on "Jobs, jobs, jobs" - so again we ask, where are they? Yes, I get that they don't want to do anything that would look good for Obama. But they have constituents who do not care. It's time to work for the people who elected them, and that means strengthening the economy by putting Americans back to work.

The National Memo » Poll: Americans More Concerned With Job Creation Than Obamacare Woes

Does anybody think that higher taxes translate to more jobs? Taxpayer funded jobs to not grow the economy. They only transfer money from one segment of society to another segment. How would higher minimum wages grow the economy? It doesn't take a genius to understand that a greater financial burden on small business with Hussein/care and higher minimum wages would result in less jobs rather than more jobs. Factor in energy prices kept high by the crazy global warming scare and it's a recipe for economic disaster.
 
According to a United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection poll released Monday, an overwhelming majority of Americans want Congress and President Barack Obama to focus on job creation more than any other issue — including health care.

The poll finds that by more than a 3-1 margin, voters would be “very pleased” or “somewhat pleased,” if the president and Congress worked together to create more jobs, as opposed to “very disappointed” or “somewhat disappointed.” Surprisingly, voters expressed very little partisan variation on how they hope the president and lawmakers create more jobs; 75 percent say they would be “pleased” or “very pleased” if jobs were created by reducing taxes and regulation – generally a Republican position – and 77 percent said the same about increasing investment in infrastructure projects, which Democrats tend to favor.

The findings should serve as a wakeup call for congressional Republicans, who have dedicated a great amount of their time to attacking the Affordable Care Act and its troubled rollout, and now say there is little left for them to do anything else.

According to The New York Times, U.S. Representative Reid Ribble (R-WI) even claimed that his constituents would not “want me to be overaggressive in writing new laws.” The new poll suggests that his constituents would disagree.

Besides job creation, other issues important to voters include gun and immigration reforms. According to the poll, 74 percent would be happy if lawmakers approved a proposal to expand background checks for gun purchases; only 22 percent said they would be unhappy if the legislation passed. Support for the issue split among partisan lines with nearly 75 percent of Democrats saying they would be “very pleased” if the measure passed, while only 38 percent of Republicans said the same. Still, a majority of GOP voters, 66 percent, did say they would be “somewhat pleased” by the legislation.

Looks like the echo chamber didn't get the memo. In 2010, the TPM won on "Jobs, jobs, jobs" - so again we ask, where are they? Yes, I get that they don't want to do anything that would look good for Obama. But they have constituents who do not care. It's time to work for the people who elected them, and that means strengthening the economy by putting Americans back to work.

The National Memo » Poll: Americans More Concerned With Job Creation Than Obamacare Woes

What about this administration's decision to go with unemployment extensions OVER the keystone pipeline? It appears that liberal democrats are more concerned with their ideological views than demonstrating they are truly concerned about providing jobs. Of course it's always easier to blame Republicans when your looking to try and score political points.
 
Ah yes, somehow Obama doesn't have control over the price of gas, but somehow he can wave his magic wand and miraculously add hundreds of thousands of jobs to the economy. Right. If he had that kind of control, he would be God.

Except that there is clear cut evidence his stimulus package created millions of jobs.


Let me know when you can provide data which can distinguish between permanent full-time private sector jobs, from this hamster wheel of temporary work - layoff - more temporary work ... all lumped together among your "millions" of jobs theory.
 
I'm sorry. You apparently didn't read the article. The bulk of Americans Don't Care.

Jobs are more important. And they're right.

That makes you wrong.

Except jobs are NOT being created exactly because of this crap obamacare :lol:
 
I'm sorry. You apparently didn't read the article. The bulk of Americans Don't Care.

Jobs are more important. And they're right.

That makes you wrong.

Except jobs are NOT being created exactly because of this crap obamacare :lol:


Is this the left's response to all the problems this administration is finding in just trying to get Obamacare started? Had this signature legislation been as huge a success as they hoped, there wouldn't be a need to use a poll in an attempt to conveniently change the subject. "Well now ACA is no longer as important as jobs to the American people." Then perhaps you should have concentrated on jobs from the start, instead of deviating to pass this health care embarrassment fiasco.
 
I'm sorry. You apparently didn't read the article. The bulk of Americans Don't Care.

Jobs are more important. And they're right.

That makes you wrong.

Except jobs are NOT being created exactly because of this crap obamacare :lol:


Is this the left's response to all the problems this administration is finding in just trying to get Obamacare started? Had this signature legislation been as huge a success as they hoped, there wouldn't be a need to use a poll in an attempt to conveniently change the subject. "Well now ACA is no longer as important as jobs to the American people." Then perhaps you should have concentrated on jobs from the start, instead of deviating to pass this health care embarrassment fiasco.

the failed policies of this administration which led to economic stagnation, chronic extremely high unemployment and extreme overregulation of the small businesses ( a European model) lead exactly to this - to low wages, to extreme apathy and the people are angry.

so the leftards distract from the real reasons of the economic misery of the last 5 years by feeding the sheeple the marxist fairy-tale about the greedy CEO and big pockets ( whom the verysame leftards are feeding OUR middle class money) are not raising the salaries and that is the reason of pain workers are feeling, not the hidden sky-rocketing inflation ( one can not expect to pump unexisting 85 billion per month and not to see the reaction of the real market) and frozen wages because of high unemployment and almost unexistent GDP growth.
 
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In small towns a boom like this can make or break them. You get Keystone with high paid welders coming in, literally you're setting off a financial YAY!!!!!! FIRESTORM!!!!! because they get the high paying money and the guys lay it out on the day to day.
Sure.

But, this is the way stimulus works for any infrastructure project.

It could have been bridges, schools, or something else that we actually need.

The keystone pipeline is oriented to raising the price of oil in the midwest and Canada - something we really don't have to do.

The Keystone pipeline would not require a dime of stimulus funding. All it needed was Obama's approval to be built. I suggest that it would lower the price of oil. It is a lot cheaper and safer to move oil in a pipeline than by the railroad tankers that are owned by a billionaire contributer to the Obama campaign.
 
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