Obama scores high marks again with 79% of Americans

Obama's fear-mongering
The president and his aides say they don't want to waste a crisis. That's a cynical way to exploit a national emergency.

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Well, now we have the president, along with his chief aides, admitting -- boasting! -- that they want to exploit a national emergency for their preexisting agenda, and there's no scandal. No one even calls it a gaffe. No, they call it leadership.

It's not leadership. It's fear-mongering

Obama's fear-mongering - Los Angeles Times

OBAMA THE FEAR MONGER

Obama painted a bleak picture if lawmakers do nothing.

In an op-ed piece in The Washington Post, the president argued that each day without his stimulus package, Americans lose more jobs, savings and homes. His message came as congressional leaders struggle to control the huge stimulus bill that's been growing larger by the day in the Senate. The addition of a new tax break for homebuyers Wednesday evening sent the price tag well past $900 billion.

"This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse," Obama wrote in the newspaper piece.

Obama warns of need for stimulus bill right away

LOL ... and the use of fear to sell policies, bothers you why?

Statement on Congressional Approval of Bailout
Friday 03 October 2008

by: Dean Baker | Visit article original @ The Center for Economic and Policy Research


President Bush sought to provoke a financial panic to push legislation for the bailout through Congress. (Artwork: Edvard Munch)
This is the first time in the history of the United States that the president has sought to provoke a financial panic to get legislation through Congress. While this has proven to be a successful political strategy, it marks yet another low point in American politics.

It was incredibly irresponsible for President Bush to tell the American people on national television that the country could be facing another Great Depression.


so obama is just as bad as bush....is that your point....
 
Obama's fear-mongering
The president and his aides say they don't want to waste a crisis. That's a cynical way to exploit a national emergency.

...

Well, now we have the president, along with his chief aides, admitting -- boasting! -- that they want to exploit a national emergency for their preexisting agenda, and there's no scandal. No one even calls it a gaffe. No, they call it leadership.

It's not leadership. It's fear-mongering

Obama's fear-mongering - Los Angeles Times

OBAMA THE FEAR MONGER

Obama painted a bleak picture if lawmakers do nothing.

In an op-ed piece in The Washington Post, the president argued that each day without his stimulus package, Americans lose more jobs, savings and homes. His message came as congressional leaders struggle to control the huge stimulus bill that's been growing larger by the day in the Senate. The addition of a new tax break for homebuyers Wednesday evening sent the price tag well past $900 billion.

"This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse," Obama wrote in the newspaper piece.

Obama warns of need for stimulus bill right away

LOL ... and the use of fear to sell policies, bothers you why?

Statement on Congressional Approval of Bailout
Friday 03 October 2008

by: Dean Baker | Visit article original @ The Center for Economic and Policy Research


President Bush sought to provoke a financial panic to push legislation for the bailout through Congress. (Artwork: Edvard Munch)
This is the first time in the history of the United States that the president has sought to provoke a financial panic to get legislation through Congress. While this has proven to be a successful political strategy, it marks yet another low point in American politics.

It was incredibly irresponsible for President Bush to tell the American people on national television that the country could be facing another Great Depression.


so obama is just as bad as bush....is that your point....

exactly
 
so obama is just as bad as bush....is that your point....

exactly

Not at all ... my point was simply that you understood that Bush was doing what he could to save the US economy ... I have never been a fan of the bailouts but I do know that to sit back and do nothing was never an option. Just as Obama is doing what he believes will help turn around this recession ... and only time will tell if it works or not. While the Repubs answer is for Boehner and Cantor to fight over when to release their own spending plan?
 
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama earned high marks for diplomacy during his first overseas trip, and a majority of Americans think that he will return home with some accomplishments in his pocket, according to results of a poll released Monday.

A large majority, 79 percent, said people in other countries will have a more positive view of the United States because of Obama....
Poll: Most say Obama has improved U.S. image abroad - CNN.com

This is great news for American confidence in their President.
Considering the decline of respect for our country over the last administration, this should be welcome news for all but the most stubborn partisans.

Great news. I knew he would make us proud. :)

Proud of what? Speeches? So far he has accomplished nothing in terms of foreign policy. He's gone to several European countries and Turkey, told them all what they wanted to hear, but essentially got NOTHING of what he wanted (increased stimulus spending and more troop commitments for Afghanistan and increased sanctions on Iran). The Euroweenie public loves him because he says things they like to hear but the political leaders already can't stand him....
 
so obama is just as bad as bush....is that your point....

exactly

Not at all ... my point was simply that you understood that Bush was doing what he could to save the US economy ... I have never been a fan of the bailouts but I do know that to sit back and do nothing was never an option. Just as Obama is doing what he believes will help turn around this recession ... and only time will tell if it works or not. While the Repubs answer is for Boehner and Cantor to fight over when to release their own spending plan?

Recessions happen about every 30 years or so, it's pretty natural occurence. The market always has worked threw it, that's a pretty natural occurence, also. But never have we had as much government intervention with the amount of spending, and there will be plenty of taxes...and fees to pay this venture back. Really, all we heard was "crisis", "worst economic downturn" since the "Great "Depression." "We need to act now, or we may never recover." This is just a way to push Obama's agenda by scaring the uninformed citizens of this great nation. The recession of the 1970's was worse than the one we are going through. It's not even mentioned by the democrats, I wonder why? There is no company too big to fail. If a company fails, let them file bankruptcy to regroup. That's why we have bankruptcy chapters. Usually, they will come out stronger than before. But government intervention is not the answer. Especially the way this is being handled by this administration.
 
Obama is like an insecure little bitch begging for everyone to like him, this shit is getting pathetic..........
 
so obama is just as bad as bush....is that your point....

exactly

Not at all ... my point was simply that you understood that Bush was doing what he could to save the US economy ... I have never been a fan of the bailouts but I do know that to sit back and do nothing was never an option. Just as Obama is doing what he believes will help turn around this recession ... and only time will tell if it works or not. While the Repubs answer is for Boehner and Cantor to fight over when to release their own spending plan?

i never supported the bush bailouts...

so i have no idea what you are talking about
 
And you think 79% of the american people actually listened to anything he said? It is you sir who are delusional.
 
And you think 79% of the american people actually listened to anything he said? It is you sir who are delusional.

Actually, it's not hard to conceive considering more people vote for American False Gods than they do for president lately ...
 
Sorry, only 55% of those eleigible to vote do so. The remaining 45% switch channels the minute a politician opens his mouth.
 
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The politics of fear are over.

Deal with it.


You mean like "were going to face a catastrophe if we don't get this stimulus bill done" ?

Your golden boy is a fear monger when he wants to get his way, deal with it ......:eusa_whistle:

Didn't scare me. You reason with intelligence. You have to spook the republicans. It's their conditioned response.

The bail outs are a sham. Glad some of the banks are giving it back.

I suggest you go read about the Missile crisis we had with the Soviets and Cuba. Kennedy appeared weak and helpless so the Soviets believed that the US would do NOTHING while they put in Nuclear missiles in Cuba. Guess what that caused? Almost caused WW3.

But you keep dreaming that a weak America is good for our image. All cow towing to other Nations does is encourage them to see JUST HOW FAR they can push us on ALL matters, trade, diplomacy, as well as potential wars because those Countries believe we will sit by and do nothing.

Russia and China have proven time and again they are more then willing to use force and their military to get what ever they want. Appearing weak encourages them and gives them the signals that they can pursue MILITARY force to accomplish what they can not get diplomatically.

THAT is a HISTORICAL FACT. Try learning your history you dumb ass.
 
Barack Obama's Vision of Nuclear Nonproliferation Won't Deter Tehran or Pyongyang - WSJ.com
"Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something."

So declared President Obama Sunday in Prague regarding North Korea's missile launch, which America's U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice added was a direct violation of U.N. resolutions. At which point, the Security Council spent hours debating its nonresponse, thus proving to nuclear proliferators everywhere that rules aren't binding, violations won't be punished, and words of warning mean nothing.

Rarely has a Presidential speech been so immediately and transparently divorced from reality as Mr. Obama's in Prague. The President delivered a stirring call to banish nuclear weapons at the very moment that North Korea and Iran are bidding to trigger the greatest proliferation breakout in the nuclear age. Mr. Obama also proposed an elaborate new arms-control regime to reduce nuclear weapons, even as both Pyongyang and Tehran are proving that the world's great powers lack the will to enforce current arms-control treaties.

There's no doubting the emotive appeal of Mr. Obama's grand no-nukes vision. Ronald Reagan shared a similar hope, and in recent years these pages have run a pair of news-making essays by George Shultz, Henry Kissinger, William Perry and Sam Nunn positing such a diplomatic goal. They probably gave Mr. Obama the idea. But the Gipper understood the practical limits of arms control in delivering such a world, and Messrs. Shultz and Kissinger are hard-headed enough to know that global rogues must be contained if we are going to have any hope of a nuclear-free future.

Mr. Obama recognized this rogue proliferation threat in his Prague address, but to counter it he offered only more treaties of the kind that are already ignored. OK, not merely more treaties. Two days earlier in Strasbourg he also vouchsafed the power of his own moral example.

"And I had an excellent meeting with President Medvedev of Russia to get started that process of reducing our nuclear stockpiles, which will then give us a greater moral authority to say to Iran, don't develop a nuclear weapon; to say to North Korea, don't proliferate nuclear weapons," Mr. Obama said, implying that previous American Presidents had lacked such "authority."

moral authority. yeah that'll work

The President went even further in Prague, noting that "as a nuclear power -- as the only nuclear power to have used a nuclear weapon -- the United States has a moral responsibility to act." That barely concealed apology for Hiroshima is an insult to the memory of Harry Truman, who saved a million lives by ending World War II without a bloody invasion of Japan. As for the persuasive power of "moral authority," we should have learned long ago that the concept has no meaning in Pyongyang or Tehran, much less in the rocky hideouts of al Qaeda.

Another insult to the US from our "leader"

The truth is that Mr. Obama's nuclear vision has reality exactly backward. To the extent that the U.S. has maintained a large and credible nuclear arsenal, it has prevented war, defeated the Soviet Union, shored up our alliances and created an umbrella that persuaded other nations that they don't need a bomb to defend themselves.


The most dangerous proliferation in the last 50 years has come outside the U.S. umbrella on the South Asian subcontinent, where India and Pakistan want to deter each other. No treaty stopped A.Q. Khan. Meanwhile, the world's most conspicuous antiproliferation victories in recent decades were the Israeli strike against Saddam Hussein's nuclear plant at Osirak, and the U.S. toppling of Saddam and the way it impressed Libya's Moammar Ghadafi.

All of which means that any serious effort at nonproliferation has to begin with North Korea and Iran. They are the urgent threat to nuclear peace, the focus of years of great-power diplomacy and sanctions. U.N. resolutions have formally barred both countries from developing an atomic bomb and the missiles to deliver them. If Iran acquires a bomb or North Korea retains one despite this attempt to stop them, then the world will conclude that there is no such thing as an enforceable antinuclear order. It will be every nation for itself.
This is the inevitable outcome of the do nothing national security policy of the current president. While other countries, rogues at that, are escalating, Obama cuts our capability of military superiority and advertises it to the world.

In the Middle East, a Shiite bomb will send the region's Arab nations scurrying to Pakistan to get a Sunni weapon. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and perhaps even Iraq will be in the market for a deterrent. The Turks -- long a power in the region but wondering if NATO membership is enough protection -- will also seek to join the nuclear club. Meanwhile, Japan will increasingly wonder if Americans would really risk an attack on themselves in order to protect Tokyo. The nightmare imagined by strategists at the dawn of the atomic age in the 1950s, with every major nation getting the bomb, will be that much closer.

Mr. Obama is a brilliant talker, and his words thrilled a Europe that wants to believe he can conjure peace and a nuclear-free world. But note well how little the Europeans answered the President's call for more troops in Afghanistan, much less any help in stopping a nuclear Iran. Mr. Obama is offering pleasant illusions, while mullahs and other rogues plot explosive reality.

And here's another piece in the same vein as the above

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123906007566594937.html
 
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama earned high marks for diplomacy during his first overseas trip, and a majority of Americans think that he will return home with some accomplishments in his pocket, according to results of a poll released Monday.

A large majority, 79 percent, said people in other countries will have a more positive view of the United States because of Obama....
Poll: Most say Obama has improved U.S. image abroad - CNN.com

This is great news for American confidence in their President.
Considering the decline of respect for our country over the last administration, this should be welcome news for all but the most stubborn partisans.

Wow...... a thousand people polled. What were they asked exactly? Were they watching bullshit, college basketball for the last month? That's all anyone I have asked knows about. They have no clue about the trip that the "President" and his staff of 500 took to Europe. They don't have a clue how many millions of dollars are being spent for this asslick tour Obammy and his fat ass woman is taking.

How many C-5s and C-17s were used. What type of enormous carbon footprint did the "environment President" create? The fuel alone is enormous. Air Force One is 75,000 dollars an hour. It's fuel burn is around 2,000 gallons an hour. The C5s are also burning more. Before this trip is over, the fuel burned alone will be well over 100,000 gallons. Imagine the cost of putting up 500 staff members in London costs. The food, the cars to take them where they needed to go. This fuck is nothing but an actor playing the part of a President, a hypocrite that has upped the expenditure of our tax dollars on he and his ass kissing staff 1000%. He's an arrogant shit head that has a typical liberal entitlement complex, fuck him and that ugly shit partner of his........ classless ghetto whores.

Oh and his biggest backer, the guy that has orchestrating his every move, George Soros........... he's made over 2 billion since he bought the office of the Presidency.
 
We are spending thousands and thousands on this "Obama Publicity Tour" and all we're getting from it is a weaker nation with a President who thinks he can apologize his way into the world spotlight.

It makes me sick to my stomach to see him out there telling the world that we're a bad nation and we need to do better by every nation around us. When will we EVER be able to get our pride back? All he did was paint a GIANT target on the back of the United States. He might as well have burned Ol' Glory at every stop he made. God help us
 
This is not about fear. It's about our national security. But nice try simply picking one out of context sentence from my rather lengthy post.

Why don't you offer your own analysis of the WSJ piece and tell me why you believe it is a good thing for the US to be weak in the face of China, Russia and NK? >>>

It is all about fear and you are such an easy target. You send rightwing fringe articles and expect us to take them seriously. THis is why you lost BIG TIME!!!! This isn't a pissing contest, we saw how well that worked. No one thinks America is weak, quite the contrary.
 
Oh and his biggest backer, the guy that has orchestrating his every move, George Soros........... he's made over 2 billion since he bought the office of the Presidency.[/QUOTE]




A new scapegoat? Soros? I feel sorry for whiners like you but you are entertaining in your misery. Come on, join the world and enjoy watching a president respected all over. It is a new feeling, but it is a nice one.
 

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