Obama says the private sector is "DOING JUST FINE" LMAO

[The Rabbi]

The private sector is not "doing fine", Vast and Obama's boasting about adding 4.3 million jobs when they needed to add substantially more than that just to keep up with population growth is a joke. During his term of office they've added less than 4 million jobs when to keep up with population growth they needed to add 9 million jobs. The fact is...this Administration's "plan" for the economy is so all over the place that it's created a climate of economic gridlock. Yes, he's come out NOW with support for lowering corporate taxes after spending two years lambasting corporations for not paying their "fair share". Do you even know what Barack Obama's stance on ANYTHING to do with the economy is at this point? It seems to change depending on the latest unemployment and polling numbers. How does he expect businesses to make plans going forward with him as President?

How is it "boasting" when I said:

Now certainly, one can make the point that they don't think the private sector is adding enough jobs.

?

And Obama's plans have been "all over the place", because no matter what tack he tries to take, the GOP blocks it.

When they didn't have a majority in the house, they either filibusterered, or threatened to filibuster, every single piece of legislation that was proposed.

Now that they have the house, they've simply decided to make sure nothing at all happens.

That's where your "climate of economic gridlock" comes from.

But it's easy to blame the president, even though he doesn't make legislation on economic matters...

What track has he tried? He passed a trillion dollar stimulus bill to fund shovel ready jobs. That was a failure. He has followed it up with 3 or 4 stimulus bills to fund shovel ready jobs, along with narrow targeted tax cuts that do nothing. He has tried the same thing over and over. Anyone would be a fool to vote for a failed policy. Even Dems haven't supported his later proposals.

 

[racewright]

The private sector is not "doing fine", Vast and Obama's boasting about adding 4.3 million jobs when they needed to add substantially more than that just to keep up with population growth is a joke. During his term of office they've added less than 4 million jobs when to keep up with population growth they needed to add 9 million jobs. The fact is...this Administration's "plan" for the economy is so all over the place that it's created a climate of economic gridlock. Yes, he's come out NOW with support for lowering corporate taxes after spending two years lambasting corporations for not paying their "fair share". Do you even know what Barack Obama's stance on ANYTHING to do with the economy is at this point? It seems to change depending on the latest unemployment and polling numbers. How does he expect businesses to make plans going forward with him as President?

How is it "boasting" when I said:

Now certainly, one can make the point that they don't think the private sector is adding enough jobs.

?

And Obama's plans have been "all over the place", because no matter what tack he tries to take, the GOP blocks it.

When they didn't have a majority in the house, they either filibusterered, or threatened to filibuster, every single piece of legislation that was proposed.

Now that they have the house, they've simply decided to make sure nothing at all happens.

That's where your "climate of economic gridlock" comes from.

But it's easy to blame the president, even though he doesn't make legislation on economic matters...

Adding jobs is one thing --the real pain in the private sector is the lack of new work and lower prices we are forced to take to keep the lights on.
Thank god the GOP has stopped the Obama spending machine. Imagine if you will how deep the hole would be if he was allowed to keep Pelosi in charge spending like a women with a no limit charge card that someone else pays for.

Like I have said and many like me will do this. Give back my debt to the Government and the banks--who needs good credit if you can not earn enough because of the lack of understanding by the leaders in power about how the USA economy works.
To many public jobs are recession proof--herein lies a big problem, they could care less about the income reductions of the private industry.
The class war is on and sooner or later the private sector has to win or there will not be enough money to pay for the public sector Already happening.

 

[Vast LWC]

What track has he tried? He passed a trillion dollar stimulus bill to fund shovel ready jobs. That was a failure. He has followed it up with 3 or 4 stimulus bills to fund shovel ready jobs, along with narrow targeted tax cuts that do nothing. He has tried the same thing over and over. Anyone would be a fool to vote for a failed policy. Even Dems haven't supported his later proposals.

The stimulus worked the way it was supposed to. There just wasn't enough of it.

All you have to do is compare the US to the rest of the world, and it is obvious that the stimulus had an effect.

While the US promoted stimulus, Europe promoted austerity, and now Europe is in a hopeless situation.

The only country that has done better than us is China, and China has near-continuous "Stimulus", otherwise known as "Socialism".

And, before you start in on how China is supposedly "capitalist", yes, it is true that China has become more capitalist in recent years, but compared to the US, they are still a Socialist nation.

 

[Vast LWC]

Adding jobs is one thing --the real pain in the private sector is the lack of new work and lower prices we are forced to take to keep the lights on.
Thank god the GOP has stopped the Obama spending machine. Imagine if you will how deep the hole would be if he was allowed to keep Pelosi in charge spending like a women with a no limit charge card that someone else pays for.

Like I have said and many like me will do this. Give back my debt to the Government and the banks--who needs good credit if you can not earn enough because of the lack of understanding by the leaders in power about how the USA economy works.
To many public jobs are recession proof--herein lies a big problem, they could care less about the income reductions of the private industry.
The class war is on and sooner or later the private sector has to win or there will not be enough money to pay for the public sector Already happening.

Corporate profits are at record highs, and the rich folks who own stock in said corporations are making money hand over fist.

Now, combine that with what you just said about "income reductions of the private industry", and you find the true issue here.

There's your "class war". It's not what you'd expect though.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Adding jobs is one thing --the real pain in the private sector is the lack of new work and lower prices we are forced to take to keep the lights on.
Thank god the GOP has stopped the Obama spending machine. Imagine if you will how deep the hole would be if he was allowed to keep Pelosi in charge spending like a women with a no limit charge card that someone else pays for.

Like I have said and many like me will do this. Give back my debt to the Government and the banks--who needs good credit if you can not earn enough because of the lack of understanding by the leaders in power about how the USA economy works.
To many public jobs are recession proof--herein lies a big problem, they could care less about the income reductions of the private industry.
The class war is on and sooner or later the private sector has to win or there will not be enough money to pay for the public sector Already happening.

Corporate profits are at record highs, and the rich folks who own stock in said corporations are making money hand over fist.

Now, combine that with what you just said about "income reductions of the private industry", and you find the true issue here.

There's your "class war". It's not what you'd expect though.

The only class warfare is in your fucking head. You wanna make more money? Get off your lazy ass and do it. Better yourself and stop blaming everyone else.

 

[Trajan]

The private sector is not "doing fine", Vast and Obama's boasting about adding 4.3 million jobs when they needed to add substantially more than that just to keep up with population growth is a joke. During his term of office they've added less than 4 million jobs when to keep up with population growth they needed to add 9 million jobs. The fact is...this Administration's "plan" for the economy is so all over the place that it's created a climate of economic gridlock. Yes, he's come out NOW with support for lowering corporate taxes after spending two years lambasting corporations for not paying their "fair share". Do you even know what Barack Obama's stance on ANYTHING to do with the economy is at this point? It seems to change depending on the latest unemployment and polling numbers. How does he expect businesses to make plans going forward with him as President?

How is it "boasting" when I said:

Now certainly, one can make the point that they don't think the private sector is adding enough jobs.

?

And Obama's plans have been "all over the place", because no matter what tack he tries to take, the GOP blocks it.

When they didn't have a majority in the house, they either filibusterered, or threatened to filibuster, every single piece of legislation that was proposed.

Now that they have the house, they've simply decided to make sure nothing at all happens.

That's where your "climate of economic gridlock" comes from.

But it's easy to blame the president, even though he doesn't make legislation on economic matters...

-there is no filibuster in the House of Representatives, further- I am shocked seriously, I have to make you aware of that.

- this is a gem-

Now that they have the house, they've simply decided to make sure nothing at all happens.

you may not like what the house has voted for and sent to the senate, but, keeping in mind obama has had 2 budget bills in huge bi-partisan votes in the senate knocked down, who do you blame for that? The senate is the do nothing portion of the Hill, that is the reality, they have not been sending to committee bills and reid has not allowed many votes on budgets or other substantive issues, as he is protecting his majority from uncomfortable votes in an election year.

- budgets don't require a supra majority so there is NO filibuster to be had. again I am shocked I have to share that tid bit with you.


- your blurb "or threatened to filibuster", is wrong, first they have passed plenty of bills, second, this "or threatened to filibuster", is a non starter is it is, or it isn't....( I do agree they both threaten and they both should be made to make good and stand there all night doing the hard work, caving in on a threat buys you or me nothing in that context from whatever party angle you or I take).

I don't know what you read, or where you get what information you have ( or don't) but, you sound like Debbie Wasserman-shulz, think for yourself, read more, and not think progress and not FOX etc... because you are foundering here.

 

[The Rabbi]

What track has he tried? He passed a trillion dollar stimulus bill to fund shovel ready jobs. That was a failure. He has followed it up with 3 or 4 stimulus bills to fund shovel ready jobs, along with narrow targeted tax cuts that do nothing. He has tried the same thing over and over. Anyone would be a fool to vote for a failed policy. Even Dems haven't supported his later proposals.

The stimulus worked the way it was supposed to. There just wasn't enough of it.

All you have to do is compare the US to the rest of the world, and it is obvious that the stimulus had an effect.

While the US promoted stimulus, Europe promoted austerity, and now Europe is in a hopeless situation.

The only country that has done better than us is China, and China has near-continuous "Stimulus", otherwise known as "Socialism".

And, before you start in on how China is supposedly "capitalist", yes, it is true that China has become more capitalist in recent years, but compared to the US, they are still a Socialist nation.

No, the stimulus did not work. UE was predicted to go down below 7%if it was passed, go over 8% if it wasn't. Instead it went to 10%. Most of the money was wasted filling gaps in state budgets they needed to close on their own. Some of it was wasted on absurd projects like programs for alcoholic prostitutes in China and turtle bridges.
Europe was doing much better than we were into 2008-09. Even now Germany is doing much better, in part because they never engaged in stimulus. Lumping Spain and Germany into "Europe" is deceptive.
China is slowing down, but you cannot compare the Chinese economy to the US. You could compare the Japanese economy to the US. And we find they had about 20 years of zero interest rates and government stimulus and the only result was high deficits.

 

[Vel]

We have nationwide government austerity policies ongoing for months/years now at the state and local levels.

That has resulted not only in the direct loss of hundreds of thousands of government jobs, but the indirect loss of jobs in the private sector for companies doing business with state and local governments.

For conservatives:

1. That's a good thing.

2. That's Obama's fault and why he shouldn't be re-elected.

Did it occur to you that when you run out of money you should stop spending? Most state and local governments have balanced budget amendments specifically to control spending. Austerity is what happens when you're broke.
And really enough of the "Obama inherited this" crap. Obama was a sitting senator who BEGGED the American people for the job of fixing our economy. He claimed his policies would be effective and that he had a plan. Well they haven't been and he apparently had no plan.

Read what you just posted.

You praise the states for getting rid of hundreds of thousands of jobs,

and then you attack Obama because those jobs have disappeared, as if it were his fault.

You're a perfect example of the conservatives I was describing.

I don't blame Obama for lost public sector jobs. Bloated governments needed to be shrunk. What I blame Obama for is standing in the way of private sector jobs being created. He has hamstrung the energy sector with drilling bans and threats of massive tax increases on coal producers as well as stymied private sector growth by insisting that under his plans, energy price will skyrocket. He has created so much uncertainty in the business world with Obamacare mandating that it is somehow a businesses responsibility to pay for everyone's healthcare. No one has a clue what taxes are going to be in the near future so no one is willing to invest in new enterprises. Obama has spent his time trying to pick who will win and who will not in business based on who he got the best campaign donations from. He is a flat out failure.

 

[Darkwind]

Soo... far be it from me to break in on this bubble fest, but...

Has private sector hiring not increased every month for the last 2 1/2 years?

Has public sector hiring not decreased for almost every month over that time period?

Have corporate profits not dramatically increased?

Has GDP not increased at a pretty good clip over that time period?

Did the DJIA fall back beneath 7000 while I had my head turned?

So, I'm not really seeing where what he said was incorrect here.

Perhaps you can help me.

As far as I can see, the only reason unemployment is still at 8.2 percent is that so many people have been laid off in the public sector.

You leftists always manage to leave off a little bit of information with your replies.

Has private sector hiring not increased every month for the last 2 1/2 years?

Misleading.If the US only created 1 job every month for the past 2 1/2 years, this claim could be made. Has the job growth that HAS occurred helped the economy in any significant way? The answer to that is no, so to answer your questions. No, the private sector hiring has NOT increased every month for the past 2 1/2 years, because job creation only matters when is has an effect upon the economy..

Has public sector hiring not decreased for almost every month over that time period?

Again, you leave out important information so that you can make a misleading claim. Yes, public sector hiring has decreased. But no where enough to reduce government's influence and drag on the economy. Government destroys economic energy.. The less of it we have, the more prosperous we become. So, the decrease has not helped the economy in any significant way.

Have corporate profits not dramatically increased?

They have not. Corporate profits are a measure of their margin. The profit margins have not changed in any appreciable way. Business is suffering under the weight of government regulations. Part of the 'drain of energy' thing.

Has GDP not increased at a pretty good clip over that time period?

My bad...I thought it read GOP.....

Did the DJIA fall back beneath 7000 while I had my head turned?

Is it any wonder that Obama does not understand what is going on? Even their sycophants think that the stock market is the economy. It is frightening that people who think this actually vote.

I'm amazed that you can't see where he was wrong here.. Maybe I'm not. Both Obama and you, it seems, view the world through another kind of prism where little people run around giving you candy and singing ompah-loompah....

 

[The T]

Soo... far be it from me to break in on this bubble fest, but...

Has private sector hiring not increased every month for the last 2 1/2 years?

Has public sector hiring not decreased for almost every month over that time period?

Have corporate profits not dramatically increased?

Has GDP not increased at a pretty good clip over that time period?

Did the DJIA fall back beneath 7000 while I had my head turned?

So, I'm not really seeing where what he said was incorrect here.

Perhaps you can help me.

As far as I can see, the only reason unemployment is still at 8.2 percent is that so many people have been laid off in the public sector.

You leftists always manage to leave off a little bit of information with your replies.

Has private sector hiring not increased every month for the last 2 1/2 years?

Misleading.If the US only created 1 job every month for the past 2 1/2 years, this claim could be made. Has the job growth that HAS occurred helped the economy in any significant way? The answer to that is no, so to answer your questions. No, the private sector hiring has NOT increased every month for the past 2 1/2 years, because job creation only matters when is has an effect upon the economy..

Again, you leave out important information so that you can make a misleading claim. Yes, public sector hiring has decreased. But no where enough to reduce government's influence and drag on the economy. Government destroys economic energy.. The less of it we have, the more prosperous we become. So, the decrease has not helped the economy in any significant way.

They have not. Corporate profits are a measure of their margin. The profit margins have not changed in any appreciable way. Business is suffering under the weight of government regulations. Part of the 'drain of energy' thing.

Has GDP not increased at a pretty good clip over that time period?

My bad...I thought it read GOP.....

Did the DJIA fall back beneath 7000 while I had my head turned?

Is it any wonder that Obama does not understand what is going on? Even their sycophants think that the stock market is the economy. It is frightening that people who think this actually vote.

I'm amazed that you can't see where he was wrong here.. Maybe I'm not. Both Obama and you, it seems, view the world through another kind of prism where little people run around giving you candy and singing ompah-loompah....

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[The Infidel]

And public sector jobs need to stay gone. Those people need to find jobs in the private sector. In case you hadnt noticed we are near bankruptcy and can no longer afford to grow the govt sector. Walker gave you guys a solution and you spit in his face.

Whether they need to "stay gone" or not is not the point.

The point is that they are gone, and therefore unemployment has stayed high.

Private Sector jobs have been rising steadily since about Feb 2010.

Which was his point.

If you want to complain about unemployment, then you must acknowledge what is causing said unemployment.

​

 

[The Infidel]

What track has he tried? He passed a trillion dollar stimulus bill to fund shovel ready jobs. That was a failure. He has followed it up with 3 or 4 stimulus bills to fund shovel ready jobs, along with narrow targeted tax cuts that do nothing. He has tried the same thing over and over. Anyone would be a fool to vote for a failed policy. Even Dems haven't supported his later proposals.

The stimulus worked the way it was supposed to. There just wasn't enough of it.

I did not work period... it should have NEVER been done in first place.

All you have to do is compare the US to the rest of the world, and it is obvious that the stimulus had an effect.

Yep... it had an effect alright, we are just as broke as the rest of the world with no end in sight!! Get a clue..!

While the US promoted stimulus, Europe promoted austerity, and now Europe is in a hopeless situation.

Europe did a VERY TEPID austerity program ad never even gave it time to work... they are a bunch of pussies that cried when they were told they would have to cut back on pensions and gov't benefits. WE ARE NOT EUROPE.

The only country that has done better than us is China, and China has near-continuous "Stimulus", otherwise known as "Socialism".

And, before you start in on how China is supposedly "capitalist", yes, it is true that China has become more capitalist in recent years, but compared to the US, they are still a Socialist nation.

So you think socialism is working in China?

Boy are you misinformed...

Move to Europe if thats what you want

 

[The T]

What track has he tried? He passed a trillion dollar stimulus bill to fund shovel ready jobs. That was a failure. He has followed it up with 3 or 4 stimulus bills to fund shovel ready jobs, along with narrow targeted tax cuts that do nothing. He has tried the same thing over and over. Anyone would be a fool to vote for a failed policy. Even Dems haven't supported his later proposals.

The stimulus worked the way it was supposed to. There just wasn't enough of it.

I did not work period... it should have NEVER been done in first place.

All you have to do is compare the US to the rest of the world, and it is obvious that the stimulus had an effect.

Yep... it had an effect alright, we are just as broke as the rest of the world with no end in sight!! Get a clue..!

While the US promoted stimulus, Europe promoted austerity, and now Europe is in a hopeless situation.

Europe did a VERY TEPID austerity program ad never even gave it time to work... they are a bunch of pussies that cried when they were told they would have to cut back on pensions and gov't benefits. WE ARE NOT EUROPE.

The only country that has done better than us is China, and China has near-continuous "Stimulus", otherwise known as "Socialism".

And, before you start in on how China is supposedly "capitalist", yes, it is true that China has become more capitalist in recent years, but compared to the US, they are still a Socialist nation.

So you think socialism is working in China?

Boy are you misinformed...

Move to Europe if thats what you want

Yep. WE want to be who we are...NOT like everyone else. Individualism brother!

 

[racewright]

Adding jobs is one thing --the real pain in the private sector is the lack of new work and lower prices we are forced to take to keep the lights on.
Thank god the GOP has stopped the Obama spending machine. Imagine if you will how deep the hole would be if he was allowed to keep Pelosi in charge spending like a women with a no limit charge card that someone else pays for.

Like I have said and many like me will do this. Give back my debt to the Government and the banks--who needs good credit if you can not earn enough because of the lack of understanding by the leaders in power about how the USA economy works.
To many public jobs are recession proof--herein lies a big problem, they could care less about the income reductions of the private industry.
The class war is on and sooner or later the private sector has to win or there will not be enough money to pay for the public sector Already happening.

Corporate profits are at record highs, and the rich folks who own stock in said corporations are making money hand over fist.

Now, combine that with what you just said about "income reductions of the private industry", and you find the true issue here.

There's your "class war". It's not what you'd expect though.

Stock holders well I submit that the public so called workers (teachers,fireman,police,congressman senators both federal and state level professors,state and county employes and well as federal) form a majority of stock holders not private business man -- fool-- most small business are not a part of the Stock exchange--they are the plumber and his brother or cousin , carpenter with his DAD,and a few employees. the Deli Owner and his 5 sandwich makers or the local restaurant owner with 8 waitress and bus boys.
Like I said you libs with your government jobs have no idea as to how the economy works. Its not the Donald Trumps or George Seros types that are the engine it is the landscaper,carpenter, pizza res.,small computer repair companies, Not IBM.

The small business man or women is the engine that is out of gas and this will be the group that will change the leadership and Barack is not helping this group because of how you and most libs think, everyone in business is rich and never worked a day in there life.

Telling me to get off my ass is about the most ridiculus thing I ever heard and we can not build what the Banks will not fund and Obama was out foxed buy the banks, but Mitt will not be out foxed by any Bank.
Employers can not go on unemployment as easy as employees as most of us elect not to pay into the unemployment system in an effort to keep solvent. Never dreaming that the economy would get as screwed up as it now is. Private sector does not just mean Chevy,Ford, Microsoft, Macdonald Douglas Ibm Walmart,Burger King.
It means Joes Pizza, Bob The builder, Mickies Hot Dog truck Sams Plumbing and heating, Mom and Pops Hardware (yes home depot did not kill them all) wake up and smell the coffee this element of the economy has been ruined and this is were most of the jobs in the USA are, or were. These people vote and there is a landslide coming in November like the one in 2010,and last week in Wisconsin--the pendulum has swung.

 

[Oldstyle]

The private sector is not "doing fine", Vast and Obama's boasting about adding 4.3 million jobs when they needed to add substantially more than that just to keep up with population growth is a joke. During his term of office they've added less than 4 million jobs when to keep up with population growth they needed to add 9 million jobs. The fact is...this Administration's "plan" for the economy is so all over the place that it's created a climate of economic gridlock. Yes, he's come out NOW with support for lowering corporate taxes after spending two years lambasting corporations for not paying their "fair share". Do you even know what Barack Obama's stance on ANYTHING to do with the economy is at this point? It seems to change depending on the latest unemployment and polling numbers. How does he expect businesses to make plans going forward with him as President?

How is it "boasting" when I said:

Now certainly, one can make the point that they don't think the private sector is adding enough jobs.

?

And Obama's plans have been "all over the place", because no matter what tack he tries to take, the GOP blocks it.

When they didn't have a majority in the house, they either filibusterered, or threatened to filibuster, every single piece of legislation that was proposed.

Now that they have the house, they've simply decided to make sure nothing at all happens.

That's where your "climate of economic gridlock" comes from.

But it's easy to blame the president, even though he doesn't make legislation on economic matters...

Yeah, that threat of a filibuster when the other side has Super Majorities in both the House and the Senate and control of the Oval Office sure would be crippling!

The truth is...the Democrats started Barry's first term with EVERYTHING a party could possibly need to pass things but instead of giving the country legislation that would have addressed the unemployment problem they decided to go for public funded health care while protecting public sector unions with the so called stimulus and private sector unions with the GM deal.

As for the House not doing anything? The count on bills sent over to the Senate from the House that Harry Reid will not allow to even come to the floor for discussion is now at 40. How exactly is it that you think the Republican House has decided to do nothing at all?