Obama plans to expand overtime eligibility for millions of workers

What are the details of this ill advised program? There's a good chance that it will hit flex time worker's the hardest. Someone who has negotiated a ten hour, four day workweek is going to either lose the day off or get cut to 30 hours.

Absent an emergency, overtime is a matter of scheduling completely within the control of the employer.
Sure, and proper compensation is the purview of the government. Simply don't schedule overtime if you don't want to pay for it.

And you are trying to claim you are a conservative? Yeah right! A free market decides what compensation is needed, yet you want the government stepping in?
 
bear's blathering makes a good point for government evening the playing field.

I have been a very successful businessman who had no trouble paying top wages and salaries in our field, despite the Chamber of Commerce's whining. The family run business continues to do well.

Take care of the employees and don't worry about having four bathrooms if three at home work just fine. Workers, don't every let the employers freeload off you.
Another fantasy of yours?

My ass you are a successful liberal bussiness man.

If you were , why you wasting time posting here?

Don't you have a super secrete site for millionaires only?
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

You clearly are not a republican.

While I won't argue with Obama's idea (implementation is going to just cause more inefficiency...but the concept is worth discussing), you are now a demonstrated liar.

I am not a republican.

But I know a liar when I see one.

BTW: From what I can tell Geaux runs circles around your putrid little three line cow turd posts.
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

Well except jobs will be cut over it, just like mandatory minimum wage for non career jobs. But I wouldn't expect Obama drones to grasp that.

The same way many full time jobs were cut to under 30 hours over that ACA fraud. Everything this regime touches turns to shit.
Show us how that has happened. :lol:

You can't.

The reason we lost to the Dems is because of folks like Bear and Geaux and you.

What the hell are you talking about idiot? You lost to dems, because you are in that donkey vs elephant vicious circle. I vote for neither, and I never will.

How what happened exactly? How people lost jobs? Employers cut full time jobs, doubled the amount of part time jobs. Why? To avoid the employer mandate.

And the answer to idiots screaming about $15 an hour to put fucking pickles on a bun?

Your welcome, do your own fucking research next time, if you wanna know something so bad asshole.

2qxt0g7.jpg

That machine won't replace workers, your smartphone will
Load an app, pull up your order, pay
all from your car and the order will be waiting when you get there

This technology will happen if you pay $15 an hour or $3 an hour
 
Chikin is clucking but saying nothing worthwhile.

You have offered nothing to this! Nothing but a personal anecdotal account of you paying such great wages.

Or

Personal attacks on others, which is why I responded in kind. You are nothing more than a blathering parrot.
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

Starkey is a successful pay-for-play internet troll. That's gotta count for something, eh?
 
The math shows that if consumers have more money in a consumer economy the better the economy works and the more the owners and workers have.

Good market forces do the best for all.

I don't mind educating Geaux, but I expect him to be honest.

It's unfortunate that you are not honest.

The math shows no such thing.

It is a fallacy of one variable economics.
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

Well except jobs will be cut over it, just like mandatory minimum wage for non career jobs. But I wouldn't expect Obama drones to grasp that.

The same way many full time jobs were cut to under 30 hours over that ACA fraud. Everything this regime touches turns to shit.
Show us how that has happened. :lol:

You can't.

The reason we lost to the Dems is because of folks like Bear and Geaux and you.

What the hell are you talking about idiot? You lost to dems, because you are in that donkey vs elephant vicious circle. I vote for neither, and I never will.

How what happened exactly? How people lost jobs? Employers cut full time jobs, doubled the amount of part time jobs. Why? To avoid the employer mandate.

And the answer to idiots screaming about $15 an hour to put fucking pickles on a bun?

Your welcome, do your own fucking research next time, if you wanna know something so bad asshole.

2qxt0g7.jpg

That machine won't replace workers, your smartphone will
Load an app, pull up your order, pay
all from your car and the order will be waiting when you get there

This technology will happen if you pay $15 an hour or $3 an hour

It will be 15 an hour, but there wont be very many to pay. Because yes those will replace workers. That isn't even debatable.
 
What are the details of this ill advised program? There's a good chance that it will hit flex time worker's the hardest. Someone who has negotiated a ten hour, four day workweek is going to either lose the day off or get cut to 30 hours.

Absent an emergency, overtime is a matter of scheduling completely within the control of the employer.

And fair labor practices are within the purview of the Government
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

Starkey is a successful pay-for-play internet troll. That's gotta count for something, eh?
Personal attack is an admission of defeat. Thank you.
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

Starkey is a successful pay-for-play internet troll. That's gotta count for something, eh?

I've been here a short time.

His posts are worthless.

They cloud threads with bull and make it tough to follow the adult part of the conversation.

(Watch the response to this).
 
What are the details of this ill advised program? There's a good chance that it will hit flex time worker's the hardest. Someone who has negotiated a ten hour, four day workweek is going to either lose the day off or get cut to 30 hours.

Absent an emergency, overtime is a matter of scheduling completely within the control of the employer.

And fair labor practices are within the purview of the Government

The problem being that what you think is fair is only your opinion.

Obama does not know fair.
 
The math shows that if consumers have more money in a consumer economy the better the economy works and the more the owners and workers have.

Good market forces do the best for all.

I don't mind educating Geaux, but I expect him to be honest.

It's unfortunate that you are not honest.

The math shows no such thing.

It is a fallacy of one variable economics.
No, it's not. We can educate you as well, Sun Devil. Investing in your workers as well as your technology and R&D is the pathway to success. You really don't need the extra six feet on the swimming pool. We didn't either.

SD's replies are vacuous and sophomoric. Expected from the neo-corporatist.
 
There is nothing socialist about the change.

Geaux has an extremely limited vocabulary and understanding.

In a consumer economy, the more money the working consumers have to spend, everyone, including owners, are better off.

Well except jobs will be cut over it, just like mandatory minimum wage for non career jobs. But I wouldn't expect Obama drones to grasp that.

The same way many full time jobs were cut to under 30 hours over that ACA fraud. Everything this regime touches turns to shit.



Show us how that has happened. :lol:

You can't.

The reason we lost to the Dems is because of folks like Bear and Geaux and you.

What the hell are you talking about idiot? You lost to dems, because you are in that donkey vs elephant vicious circle. I vote for neither, and I never will.

How what happened exactly? How people lost jobs? Employers cut full time jobs, doubled the amount of part time jobs. Why? To avoid the employer mandate.

And the answer to idiots screaming about $15 an hour to put fucking pickles on a bun?

Your welcome, do your own fucking research next time, if you wanna know something so bad asshole.

2qxt0g7.jpg

That machine won't replace workers, your smartphone will
Load an app, pull up your order, pay
all from your car and the order will be waiting when you get there

This technology will happen if you pay $15 an hour or $3 an hour



Yes, it will.

and that technology will mean that the business will employ 5 employees instead of 15.
 
What are the details of this ill advised program? There's a good chance that it will hit flex time worker's the hardest. Someone who has negotiated a ten hour, four day workweek is going to either lose the day off or get cut to 30 hours.

Absent an emergency, overtime is a matter of scheduling completely within the control of the employer.

And fair labor practices are within the purview of the Government

The problem being that what you think is fair is only your opinion.

Obama does not know fair.
Your comment is worthless.
 
The math shows that if consumers have more money in a consumer economy the better the economy works and the more the owners and workers have.

Good market forces do the best for all.

I don't mind educating Geaux, but I expect him to be honest.

It's unfortunate that you are not honest.

The math shows no such thing.

It is a fallacy of one variable economics.
No, it's not. We can educate you as well, Sun Devil. Investing in your workers as well as your technology and R&D is the pathway to success. You really don't need the extra six feet on the swimming pool. We didn't either.

You don't educate anyone. You might as well accept that fact as shown by the rather basic attacks on your internet character.

Nobody is arguing investing in people. Making people eligible for overtime is not investing in people. It is adding costs.

What will happen, if you think about it (yes, think about it) is that managers base pay will be cut to account for the overtime they will get. In the end, overtime will be necessary for them to meet their previous salary.

Way to go.

You have to educate yourself before you can educate others.

Then you, meaning you, have to practice not sounding like a total dick when you post.
 

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