Obama Leaks Info On Israel’s Nuke Program To Iran

[nat4900]

No,the thread is about obama leaking "details" of Israels nuke program.
It's common knowledge that Israel has nukes.

the "defense" of the indefensible...as any lawyer would say, has got to be semantics.......The thread's title states "info"......and your rebuttal basically states that Obama told Iran the address of where Israel hides her nukes?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No,the thread is about obama leaking "details" of Israels nuke program.
It's common knowledge that Israel has nukes.

the "defense" of the indefensible...as any lawyer would say, has got to be semantics.......The thread's title states "info"......and your rebuttal basically states that Obama told Iran the address of where Israel hides her nukes?

It doesnt say leaked the existence of.
You'd have to be living under a rock not to know Israels has nukes.

 

[nat4900]

No,the thread is about obama leaking "details" of Israels nuke program.
It's common knowledge that Israel has nukes.

the "defense" of the indefensible...as any lawyer would say, has got to be semantics.......The thread's title states "info"......and your rebuttal basically states that Obama told Iran the address of where Israel hides her nukes?

It doesnt say leaked the existence of.
You'd have to be living under a rock not to know Israels has nukes.

Yeah, have it your way.....I'll let others judge your "brilliant" statement.

 

[Faun]

Lemme get this right .... you've been railing against Obama's plan, and all this time, you don't even know what his plan is?? Talk about self-immolation.

It's Obama's plan. Consider the source, Israel is already suspecting.

This is why the right cannot be taken seriously. They have no plan of their own and don't even care what the left plans are. ALL they know is they're the right and we're the left, so therefore, fight everything we do to the death. Meanwhile, that division will lead to the destruction of the U.S.

We're not in power.
And based on what we're seeing in the middle east and obamas penchant for siding with muslim extremist,what exactly makes you think he's going to ink a good deal?
Iran is going to be on the winning side of anything the muslim and chief signs,that you can count on.

Why on Earth would I count on that? The right has me thoroughly convinced they stand for nothing except the destruction of the left of this nation. When Clinton stated terrorists wanted to attack inside the U.S., did the right work with the left to ensure such an attack wouldn't happen? Fuck no. They attacked Clinton instead for saying that, accusing him of lying about such a threat for personal reasons.

And the fuck you're not in power. You control both chambers of Congress; one of the three branches of the government. I understand you want to pretend you have no power as a pathetic excuse for why the right has no plan on how to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but taking Obama down is not going to stop Iran from their nuclear ambitions. ALL it's going to do is further divide this nation and isolate us from others.

So do you really believe the obammy admin would allow any input from republicans? We both know thats not going to happen.
Iran will not adhere to any "deal" they might make. Sanctions were working until obama lifted them,and short of bombing the living shit out of them thats the only thing thats going to work.
What is it with liberals and trust when it comes to terrorist nations?
You all act like just being nice to them will achieve your goals when we've seen time and again that it doesnt work.
Obama has totally wrecked the middle east,and for his final act he'll make Iran the base of power there.

I believe Obama would have accepted input from Republicans had they not spent the previous six years trying to undermine him at every turn. I wouldn't put it past them to include repealing ObamaCare among any ideas they would have brought to the table.

As far as sanctions, you are wrong. They have not worked. There were sanctions on Iran while Bush was president. Iran was still enriching Uranium. Obama came in and added more sanctions ... Iran was still enriching Uranium. It was after that when Obama offered Iran an opportunity to reduce some of the sanctions in exchange for Iran to put their enrichment ambitions on hold.

As far as your claim that Obama is going to make Iran a nuclear power, that is completely absurd. He is trying to prevent that from happening. You may not like his plan and his plan may not work; but we've established there is no other plan. The right wants to continue with sanctions which have not worked. THAT plan guarantees Iran becomes a nuclear power.

 

[nat4900]

It's Obama's plan. Consider the source, Israel is already suspecting.

This is why the right cannot be taken seriously. They have no plan of their own and don't even care what the left plans are. ALL they know is they're the right and we're the left, so therefore, fight everything we do to the death. Meanwhile, that division will lead to the destruction of the U.S.

We're not in power.
And based on what we're seeing in the middle east and obamas penchant for siding with muslim extremist,what exactly makes you think he's going to ink a good deal?
Iran is going to be on the winning side of anything the muslim and chief signs,that you can count on.

Why on Earth would I count on that? The right has me thoroughly convinced they stand for nothing except the destruction of the left of this nation. When Clinton stated terrorists wanted to attack inside the U.S., did the right work with the left to ensure such an attack wouldn't happen? Fuck no. They attacked Clinton instead for saying that, accusing him of lying about such a threat for personal reasons.

And the fuck you're not in power. You control both chambers of Congress; one of the three branches of the government. I understand you want to pretend you have no power as a pathetic excuse for why the right has no plan on how to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but taking Obama down is not going to stop Iran from their nuclear ambitions. ALL it's going to do is further divide this nation and isolate us from others.

So do you really believe the obammy admin would allow any input from republicans? We both know thats not going to happen.
Iran will not adhere to any "deal" they might make. Sanctions were working until obama lifted them,and short of bombing the living shit out of them thats the only thing thats going to work.
What is it with liberals and trust when it comes to terrorist nations?
You all act like just being nice to them will achieve your goals when we've seen time and again that it doesnt work.
Obama has totally wrecked the middle east,and for his final act he'll make Iran the base of power there.

I believe Obama would have accepted input from Republicans had they not spent the previous six years trying to undermine him at every turn. I wouldn't put it past them to include repealing ObamaCare among any ideas they would have brought to the table.

As far as sanctions, you are wrong. They have not worked. There were sanctions on Iran while Bush was president. Iran was still enriching Uranium. Obama came in and added more sanctions ... Iran was still enriching Uranium. It was after that when Obama offered Iran an opportunity to reduce some of the sanctions in exchange for Iran to put their enrichment ambitions on hold.

As far as your claim that Obama is going to make Iran a nuclear power, that is completely absurd. He is trying to prevent that from happening. You may not like his plan and his plan may not work; but we've established there is no other plan. The right wants to continue with sanctions which have not worked. THAT plan guarantees Iran becomes a nuclear power.

All that sanctions have done, is to make products that Iran wants a bit more expensive......Do right wingers really "think" that China and Russia (for example) are NOT trading with Iran?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No,the thread is about obama leaking "details" of Israels nuke program.
It's common knowledge that Israel has nukes.

the "defense" of the indefensible...as any lawyer would say, has got to be semantics.......The thread's title states "info"......and your rebuttal basically states that Obama told Iran the address of where Israel hides her nukes?

It doesnt say leaked the existence of.
You'd have to be living under a rock not to know Israels has nukes.

Yeah, have it your way.....I'll let others judge your "brilliant" statement.

So you didnt know Israel has nukes? Seriously?

 

[Faun]

If Israel was going to nuke Iran they would have already done so.
And you dont hear Israel constantly proclaiming a desire to wipe Iran off the face of the earth.
You liberals always scream about leaving guns where children can gain access....
Yet you want to give the bomb to what amounts to an enraged child

Tell you what.......convince Israel to DISARM ALL OF HER NUKES.....and then that region will be a lot safer........

Israel will still have her armies and air force....What is the need for her 300 nukes???

That is patently ridiculous. Israel has had nuclear weapons almost half a century now and has never come close to using them. From Israel's perspective, they have been used as a deterrent only. The same cannot be said about Iran should they acquire nuclear weapons.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It's Obama's plan. Consider the source, Israel is already suspecting.

This is why the right cannot be taken seriously. They have no plan of their own and don't even care what the left plans are. ALL they know is they're the right and we're the left, so therefore, fight everything we do to the death. Meanwhile, that division will lead to the destruction of the U.S.

We're not in power.
And based on what we're seeing in the middle east and obamas penchant for siding with muslim extremist,what exactly makes you think he's going to ink a good deal?
Iran is going to be on the winning side of anything the muslim and chief signs,that you can count on.

Why on Earth would I count on that? The right has me thoroughly convinced they stand for nothing except the destruction of the left of this nation. When Clinton stated terrorists wanted to attack inside the U.S., did the right work with the left to ensure such an attack wouldn't happen? Fuck no. They attacked Clinton instead for saying that, accusing him of lying about such a threat for personal reasons.

And the fuck you're not in power. You control both chambers of Congress; one of the three branches of the government. I understand you want to pretend you have no power as a pathetic excuse for why the right has no plan on how to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but taking Obama down is not going to stop Iran from their nuclear ambitions. ALL it's going to do is further divide this nation and isolate us from others.

So do you really believe the obammy admin would allow any input from republicans? We both know thats not going to happen.
Iran will not adhere to any "deal" they might make. Sanctions were working until obama lifted them,and short of bombing the living shit out of them thats the only thing thats going to work.
What is it with liberals and trust when it comes to terrorist nations?
You all act like just being nice to them will achieve your goals when we've seen time and again that it doesnt work.
Obama has totally wrecked the middle east,and for his final act he'll make Iran the base of power there.

I believe Obama would have accepted input from Republicans had they not spent the previous six years trying to undermine him at every turn. I wouldn't put it past them to include repealing ObamaCare among any ideas they would have brought to the table.

As far as sanctions, you are wrong. They have not worked. There were sanctions on Iran while Bush was president. Iran was still enriching Uranium. Obama came in and added more sanctions ... Iran was still enriching Uranium. It was after that when Obama offered Iran an opportunity to reduce some of the sanctions in exchange for Iran to put their enrichment ambitions on hold.

As far as your claim that Obama is going to make Iran a nuclear power, that is completely absurd. He is trying to prevent that from happening. You may not like his plan and his plan may not work; but we've established there is no other plan. The right wants to continue with sanctions which have not worked. THAT plan guarantees Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Than they should have strengthened the sanctions.
And Iran is refusing to give up their enriched uranium stockpiles. Are you willing to let them keep em?

 

[nat4900]

If Israel was going to nuke Iran they would have already done so.
And you dont hear Israel constantly proclaiming a desire to wipe Iran off the face of the earth.
You liberals always scream about leaving guns where children can gain access....
Yet you want to give the bomb to what amounts to an enraged child

Tell you what.......convince Israel to DISARM ALL OF HER NUKES.....and then that region will be a lot safer........

Israel will still have her armies and air force....What is the need for her 300 nukes???

That is patently ridiculous. Israel has had nuclear weapons almost half a century now and has never come close to using them. From Israel's perspective, they have been used as a deterrent only. The same cannot be said about Iran should they acquire nuclear weapons.

Exactly WHY can't the same be said about Iran??? Is it because they don't speak as good English as Netanyahu?

...and please don't go back to Ahmadinejad's stupid statement....that has been the main reason why the guy was thrown to the curb by Iranians.

 

[nat4900]

This is why the right cannot be taken seriously. They have no plan of their own and don't even care what the left plans are. ALL they know is they're the right and we're the left, so therefore, fight everything we do to the death. Meanwhile, that division will lead to the destruction of the U.S.

We're not in power.
And based on what we're seeing in the middle east and obamas penchant for siding with muslim extremist,what exactly makes you think he's going to ink a good deal?
Iran is going to be on the winning side of anything the muslim and chief signs,that you can count on.

Why on Earth would I count on that? The right has me thoroughly convinced they stand for nothing except the destruction of the left of this nation. When Clinton stated terrorists wanted to attack inside the U.S., did the right work with the left to ensure such an attack wouldn't happen? Fuck no. They attacked Clinton instead for saying that, accusing him of lying about such a threat for personal reasons.

And the fuck you're not in power. You control both chambers of Congress; one of the three branches of the government. I understand you want to pretend you have no power as a pathetic excuse for why the right has no plan on how to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but taking Obama down is not going to stop Iran from their nuclear ambitions. ALL it's going to do is further divide this nation and isolate us from others.

So do you really believe the obammy admin would allow any input from republicans? We both know thats not going to happen.
Iran will not adhere to any "deal" they might make. Sanctions were working until obama lifted them,and short of bombing the living shit out of them thats the only thing thats going to work.
What is it with liberals and trust when it comes to terrorist nations?
You all act like just being nice to them will achieve your goals when we've seen time and again that it doesnt work.
Obama has totally wrecked the middle east,and for his final act he'll make Iran the base of power there.

I believe Obama would have accepted input from Republicans had they not spent the previous six years trying to undermine him at every turn. I wouldn't put it past them to include repealing ObamaCare among any ideas they would have brought to the table.

As far as sanctions, you are wrong. They have not worked. There were sanctions on Iran while Bush was president. Iran was still enriching Uranium. Obama came in and added more sanctions ... Iran was still enriching Uranium. It was after that when Obama offered Iran an opportunity to reduce some of the sanctions in exchange for Iran to put their enrichment ambitions on hold.

As far as your claim that Obama is going to make Iran a nuclear power, that is completely absurd. He is trying to prevent that from happening. You may not like his plan and his plan may not work; but we've established there is no other plan. The right wants to continue with sanctions which have not worked. THAT plan guarantees Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Than they should have strengthened the sanctions.
And Iran is refusing to give up their enriched uranium stockpiles. Are you willing to let them keep em?

Exactly WHO are we to tell another sovereign nation what they can or cannot do?

Should we also then bomb the hell of North Korea? Pakistan? China? Russia?.......Where is it written that ONLY Israel can have nukes in that region?.....and if you answer that they're "more trustworthy", your bigotry will be evident.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We're not in power.
And based on what we're seeing in the middle east and obamas penchant for siding with muslim extremist,what exactly makes you think he's going to ink a good deal?
Iran is going to be on the winning side of anything the muslim and chief signs,that you can count on.

Why on Earth would I count on that? The right has me thoroughly convinced they stand for nothing except the destruction of the left of this nation. When Clinton stated terrorists wanted to attack inside the U.S., did the right work with the left to ensure such an attack wouldn't happen? Fuck no. They attacked Clinton instead for saying that, accusing him of lying about such a threat for personal reasons.

And the fuck you're not in power. You control both chambers of Congress; one of the three branches of the government. I understand you want to pretend you have no power as a pathetic excuse for why the right has no plan on how to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but taking Obama down is not going to stop Iran from their nuclear ambitions. ALL it's going to do is further divide this nation and isolate us from others.

So do you really believe the obammy admin would allow any input from republicans? We both know thats not going to happen.
Iran will not adhere to any "deal" they might make. Sanctions were working until obama lifted them,and short of bombing the living shit out of them thats the only thing thats going to work.
What is it with liberals and trust when it comes to terrorist nations?
You all act like just being nice to them will achieve your goals when we've seen time and again that it doesnt work.
Obama has totally wrecked the middle east,and for his final act he'll make Iran the base of power there.

I believe Obama would have accepted input from Republicans had they not spent the previous six years trying to undermine him at every turn. I wouldn't put it past them to include repealing ObamaCare among any ideas they would have brought to the table.

As far as sanctions, you are wrong. They have not worked. There were sanctions on Iran while Bush was president. Iran was still enriching Uranium. Obama came in and added more sanctions ... Iran was still enriching Uranium. It was after that when Obama offered Iran an opportunity to reduce some of the sanctions in exchange for Iran to put their enrichment ambitions on hold.

As far as your claim that Obama is going to make Iran a nuclear power, that is completely absurd. He is trying to prevent that from happening. You may not like his plan and his plan may not work; but we've established there is no other plan. The right wants to continue with sanctions which have not worked. THAT plan guarantees Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Than they should have strengthened the sanctions.
And Iran is refusing to give up their enriched uranium stockpiles. Are you willing to let them keep em?

Exactly WHO are we to tell another sovereign nation what they can or cannot do?

Should we also then bomb the hell of North Korea? Pakistan? China? Russia?.......Where is it written that ONLY Israel can have nukes in that region?.....and if you answer that they're "more trustworthy", your bigotry will be evident.

When a country repeatedly threatens to wipe another country off the face of the earth,I think it's safe to say we dont want them to acquire nuclear weapons.
That you condone them having nukes tells me you're a blithering idiot.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No,the thread is about obama leaking "details" of Israels nuke program.
It's common knowledge that Israel has nukes.

the "defense" of the indefensible...as any lawyer would say, has got to be semantics.......The thread's title states "info"......and your rebuttal basically states that Obama told Iran the address of where Israel hides her nukes?

It doesnt say leaked the existence of.
You'd have to be living under a rock not to know Israels has nukes.

Yeah, have it your way.....I'll let others judge your "brilliant" statement.

Says the dingbat who feels it's only fair that a terrorist nation have their own nukes.
You're absolutely certifiable..or an Iranian mullah.

 

[nat4900]

When a country repeatedly threatens to wipe another country off the face of the earth,I think it's safe to say we dont want them to acquire nuclear weapons.
That you condone them having nukes tells me you're a blithering idiot.

Hey, dingbat.......it was Ahmedinejad who said that stupid quote...NOT the entire country's population.......
Heck, when Bush called 3 countries the Axis of Evil, I didn't want to be associated with the Cheney parrot either.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

When a country repeatedly threatens to wipe another country off the face of the earth,I think it's safe to say we dont want them to acquire nuclear weapons.
That you condone them having nukes tells me you're a blithering idiot.

Hey, dingbat.......it was Ahmedinejad who said that stupid quote...NOT the entire country's population.......
Heck, when Bush called 3 countries the Axis of Evil, I didn't want to be associated with the Cheney parrot either.

So those three countries are your favorite vacation destinations?
At least Bush wasnt offering up nukes to terrorist nations.
So whas it like being a mullah in Iran?

 

[Jroc]

What is Obama's plan? You have faith in Obama? Based on what?

Lemme get this right .... you've been railing against Obama's plan, and all this time, you don't even know what his plan is?? Talk about self-immolation.

You moron, we cant trust Obama who gave up any leverage he had by lifting the sanctions and begging Iran for a deal. We cant trust Obama based on the way he abandon Iraq to Iran and is using them on the front lines to fight the Sunnis. We cant trust Obama based on his personal animism towards Netanyahu, and we can trust Obama based on his previous failed negotiating with Russia, Iraq ect... No Obama the narcissist that cant be trusted with his legacy building. Classified documents aren't aren't covered under FOIA idiot he had them declassified.

You eliminate your own position once you revealed you're bluffing because you've really got nothing in your hand. Like this thread you started for example. It's a complete and utter fail in every sense of the word imaginable. It's nothing more than a homage of your hatred of Obama and reveals you'll say anything, no matter how ridiculous, to fuel that hatred.

Hatred? the guy with the clown face?...LOL..Obama is incompetent and an ideologue. You liberal lovers ignored that fact when you cried as he was sworn in

Yes, hatred. This thread is a perfect example. You don't know why the documents were released. Your hatred of Obama led you to believe he did it because he hates Jews. Turns out, it was the result of a lawsuit -- you were wrong. Your hatred of Obama led you to believe he "leaked" it to the Mullahs of Iran. Turns out, it was released to an American who prevailed in a lawsuit to gain access to the documents -- you were wrong again. Your hatred of Obama led you to believe the sanctions were working. Turns out, Iran was enriching Uranium despite the sanctions -- you were wrong again. Your hatred of Obama led you to create this thread, which is based on nothing but pure bullshit from the right. Turns out, all you accomplished was to dumb down your fellow righties who fell for it. Some of them actually believe Israel's nuclear arsenal was a secret until now. They don't know that secret was revealed years ago. Some of them actually believe Obama released the documents to hurt Israel because information on other countries was redacted. They don't know the lawsuit seeking to gain access to the documents was relevant only to Israel. Some of them actually believe Obama used these documents to get back at Netanyahu. They don't know Israel was given the opportunity to prevent the release of these documents and chose not to.

This thread is a monumental fail and it all stems from your unhinged hatred of Obama.

A lawsuit can't declassify classified documents. Understand? ..You're an idiot most like most Obama loving liberals

 

[Jroc]

It's Obama's plan. Consider the source, Israel is already suspecting.

This is why the right cannot be taken seriously. They have no plan of their own and don't even care what the left plans are. ALL they know is they're the right and we're the left, so therefore, fight everything we do to the death. Meanwhile, that division will lead to the destruction of the U.S.

We're not in power.
And based on what we're seeing in the middle east and obamas penchant for siding with muslim extremist,what exactly makes you think he's going to ink a good deal?
Iran is going to be on the winning side of anything the muslim and chief signs,that you can count on.

Why on Earth would I count on that? The right has me thoroughly convinced they stand for nothing except the destruction of the left of this nation. When Clinton stated terrorists wanted to attack inside the U.S., did the right work with the left to ensure such an attack wouldn't happen? Fuck no. They attacked Clinton instead for saying that, accusing him of lying about such a threat for personal reasons.

And the fuck you're not in power. You control both chambers of Congress; one of the three branches of the government. I understand you want to pretend you have no power as a pathetic excuse for why the right has no plan on how to prevent Iran from getting nukes, but taking Obama down is not going to stop Iran from their nuclear ambitions. ALL it's going to do is further divide this nation and isolate us from others.

So do you really believe the obammy admin would allow any input from republicans? We both know thats not going to happen.
Iran will not adhere to any "deal" they might make. Sanctions were working until obama lifted them,and short of bombing the living shit out of them thats the only thing thats going to work.
What is it with liberals and trust when it comes to terrorist nations?
You all act like just being nice to them will achieve your goals when we've seen time and again that it doesnt work.
Obama has totally wrecked the middle east,and for his final act he'll make Iran the base of power there.

I believe Obama would have accepted input from Republicans had they not spent the previous six years trying to undermine him at every turn. I wouldn't put it past them to include repealing ObamaCare among any ideas they would have brought to the table.

As far as sanctions, you are wrong. They have not worked. There were sanctions on Iran while Bush was president. Iran was still enriching Uranium. Obama came in and added more sanctions ... Iran was still enriching Uranium. It was after that when Obama offered Iran an opportunity to reduce some of the sanctions in exchange for Iran to put their enrichment ambitions on hold.

As far as your claim that Obama is going to make Iran a nuclear power, that is completely absurd. He is trying to prevent that from happening. You may not like his plan and his plan may not work; but we've established there is no other plan. The right wants to continue with sanctions which have not worked. THAT plan guarantees Iran becomes a nuclear power.

Poor Obama, Republicans have done nothing to impede anything. Boy you emotional Obama lovers. Do you think Congress should approve the deal with Iran? I doubt you do. Obama should have the power to do what he wants in the minds of the worshipers

 

[Jroc]

Obama worst than Chamberlain


Forget Churchill—Obama Isn't Measuring up to Neville Chamberlain

With the US on the brink of signing an agreement that will lift the crippling economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for alleged guarantees that Iran will limit its nuclear ambitions to peaceful means, the Observer urges President Obama not to place his personal hunger for a legacy issue ahead of his most solemn duty – protecting America’s national security.

Barack Obama has been compared to British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain , who concluded the ill-fated Munich Pact with Hitler in 1938. But Chamberlain acted out of a sincere belief that he was avoiding a greater evil. Chamberlain was not thinking of his place in history. He was thinking only of the Britain that he loved, a Britain that was all but disarmed, exhausted, and vulnerable. He was dealing with a nation that had been decimated by the Great War, a nation whose “best and brightest” five years earlier had declared in the infamous Oxford Oath that they would not fight for king or country, and a nation that was as materially unprepared for war as Germany was prepared to fight. Chamberlain dealt from a position of weakness, one that Hitler continually exploited in the negotiations, even by changing the time and place to make it more inconvenient for the British leader to attend them.

In sharp contrast, Mr. Obama is acting out of personal aggrandizement. He believes he is replicating President Richard Nixon’s historic opening of China. For Mr. Obama, the Iranian nuclear arms deal is about his place in history. Mr. Obama is dealing from a position of strength that he refuses to use. The sanctions have hurt Iran. Falling oil prices only add to Iran’s vulnerability. Instead of using the sanctions to pursue his original promise that Iran would not get the bomb, Mr. Obama has moved the goal post. Iran would not get the bomb immediately. It would be permitted to enrich uranium well beyond the 5 percent need for generating nuclear energy and be left with a breakout capacity to create a bomb.

Meanwhile, Iran is refusing surprise inspections, the hallmark of any such agreement, and has ruled its military facilities, such as the enrichment plant at Fordo, off limits to any inspections, period. Iran continues to showcase public displays of Israel being obliterated by an Iranian nuclear bomb, and even in the midst of negotiations government-orchestrated mass rallies cry out, “Death to America.”

If Chamberlain possessed America’s strength and was dealing with Iran’s weakness, would he be negotiating as Mr. Obama is? Would he be more concerned about a Jew building an extra bedroom in Jerusalem than an Iranian building a bomb at Fordo?

Mr. Obama is an amateur who is enthralled with the sound of his own voice and is incapable of coming to grips with the consequences of his actions. He is surrounded by sycophants, second-rate intellectuals, and a media that remains compliant and uncritical in the face of repeated foreign policy disasters. As country after country in the world’s most dangerous region fall into chaos—Libya and Yemen are essentially anarchic states, even as Syria and Iraq continue to devolve—Mr. Obama puzzlingly focuses much of his attention and rhetoric on Israel, childishly refusing to accept the mandate its people have given their prime minister in an election that, by the way, added three additional seats to the country’s Arab minority.

We can debate whether we should ever have been in Iraq, but Mr. Obama’s hasty withdrawal to make good on a campaign promise created the power vacuum filled by the Islamic State. In Syria, he vacillated over the enforcement of red lines and whom to arm. There too, he created a vacuum filled by the Islamic State.

President Obama Must Not Complete a Disastrous Deal With Iran Observer

 

[Faun]

If Israel was going to nuke Iran they would have already done so.
And you dont hear Israel constantly proclaiming a desire to wipe Iran off the face of the earth.
You liberals always scream about leaving guns where children can gain access....
Yet you want to give the bomb to what amounts to an enraged child

Tell you what.......convince Israel to DISARM ALL OF HER NUKES.....and then that region will be a lot safer........

Israel will still have her armies and air force....What is the need for her 300 nukes???

That is patently ridiculous. Israel has had nuclear weapons almost half a century now and has never come close to using them. From Israel's perspective, they have been used as a deterrent only. The same cannot be said about Iran should they acquire nuclear weapons.

Exactly WHY can't the same be said about Iran??? Is it because they don't speak as good English as Netanyahu?

...and please don't go back to Ahmadinejad's stupid statement....that has been the main reason why the guy was thrown to the curb by Iranians.

Ahmadinejad is not the only Iranian who seeks that goal. You think this guy should have access to nukes....?

Iran militia chief Destroying Israel is nonnegotiable The Times of Israel

 

[Faun]

No. Republicans are opposed to the left because nearly everyone and everything the left stands for is a PIECE OF SHIT. Sure occasionally they get something right, but even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while.

Republicans are opposed to the left cause that's all they've got. Opposition.
It's pretty easy to be opposed to any idea the other side puts up. Lots harder to come up with ideas of your own.
Which has been the failing of the Repubs for a long time.

NO good ideas. Everything the Republicans do get through, fails. Some one list a Republican idea that worked.
Why in the fuck ANYONE other than another Republican would believe ANYTHING a Republican says is beyond me. Earnest liars, everyone of them

And by the way, your thread is a fail. Obama didn't "leak" anything. A court ruled the document had to be released due to the Freedom of Information Act. The Pentagon, prior to releasing it, notified Israel that unless they object to the court's ruling, we would have to release the document to the claimant. Israel did not object and therefore, the document was released. And while it does reveal Israel had built nuclear weapons, that is not the first time the U.S. government released a document exposing such information. Do you think Bush was a Jew-hater since it happened on his watch?

Perhaps now would be an opportune moment for you to apologize to the forum for posting such a bullshit thread?

You have a reading comprehension problem again?? Or did you skip over the part when obam and crew blocked out the information on Germany and the rest??

Because those nations had nothing to do with the lawsuit which sought to gain access to thousands of documents. The lawsuit was over Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons program. Not "Germany and the rest."

http://irmep.org/cfp/CIA/02132015_CIA_foia_complaint_plus_exhibits_15-cv-00224.pdf

You righties are fucking imbeciles. You completely step in a heaping pile of dog shit, but rather than clean off your shoes, you double down on stupid, take your shoes off and step in it barefoot.

That's a spin retort and you know it, Obama was trying to throw Israel under the buss, quit trying to justify Obamas Juvenile actions, it is getting pathetic

You are, regrettably, too fucking retarded to converse with. You probably do actually believe you can dismiss pesky facts because you find them detrimental to your insane rant.

Unfortunately for you; here, on planet Earth, only the portions relevant to the lawsuit were released. Obama threw no one under the bus as you've already been informed, Israel was provided the opportunity to prevent the release of the documents and didn't want to. Have your doctors at the asylum up your meds and thank them for letting you out of your straight jacket once a day so you can post inane drivel on forums like this one.

 

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Obama worst than Chamberlain


Forget Churchill—Obama Isn't Measuring up to Neville Chamberlain

With the US on the brink of signing an agreement that will lift the crippling economic sanctions on Iran in exchange for alleged guarantees that Iran will limit its nuclear ambitions to peaceful means, the Observer urges President Obama not to place his personal hunger for a legacy issue ahead of his most solemn duty – protecting America’s national security.

Barack Obama has been compared to British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain , who concluded the ill-fated Munich Pact with Hitler in 1938. But Chamberlain acted out of a sincere belief that he was avoiding a greater evil. Chamberlain was not thinking of his place in history. He was thinking only of the Britain that he loved, a Britain that was all but disarmed, exhausted, and vulnerable. He was dealing with a nation that had been decimated by the Great War, a nation whose “best and brightest” five years earlier had declared in the infamous Oxford Oath that they would not fight for king or country, and a nation that was as materially unprepared for war as Germany was prepared to fight. Chamberlain dealt from a position of weakness, one that Hitler continually exploited in the negotiations, even by changing the time and place to make it more inconvenient for the British leader to attend them.

In sharp contrast, Mr. Obama is acting out of personal aggrandizement. He believes he is replicating President Richard Nixon’s historic opening of China. For Mr. Obama, the Iranian nuclear arms deal is about his place in history. Mr. Obama is dealing from a position of strength that he refuses to use. The sanctions have hurt Iran. Falling oil prices only add to Iran’s vulnerability. Instead of using the sanctions to pursue his original promise that Iran would not get the bomb, Mr. Obama has moved the goal post. Iran would not get the bomb immediately. It would be permitted to enrich uranium well beyond the 5 percent need for generating nuclear energy and be left with a breakout capacity to create a bomb.

Meanwhile, Iran is refusing surprise inspections, the hallmark of any such agreement, and has ruled its military facilities, such as the enrichment plant at Fordo, off limits to any inspections, period. Iran continues to showcase public displays of Israel being obliterated by an Iranian nuclear bomb, and even in the midst of negotiations government-orchestrated mass rallies cry out, “Death to America.”

If Chamberlain possessed America’s strength and was dealing with Iran’s weakness, would he be negotiating as Mr. Obama is? Would he be more concerned about a Jew building an extra bedroom in Jerusalem than an Iranian building a bomb at Fordo?

Mr. Obama is an amateur who is enthralled with the sound of his own voice and is incapable of coming to grips with the consequences of his actions. He is surrounded by sycophants, second-rate intellectuals, and a media that remains compliant and uncritical in the face of repeated foreign policy disasters. As country after country in the world’s most dangerous region fall into chaos—Libya and Yemen are essentially anarchic states, even as Syria and Iraq continue to devolve—Mr. Obama puzzlingly focuses much of his attention and rhetoric on Israel, childishly refusing to accept the mandate its people have given their prime minister in an election that, by the way, added three additional seats to the country’s Arab minority.

We can debate whether we should ever have been in Iraq, but Mr. Obama’s hasty withdrawal to make good on a campaign promise created the power vacuum filled by the Islamic State. In Syria, he vacillated over the enforcement of red lines and whom to arm. There too, he created a vacuum filled by the Islamic State.

President Obama Must Not Complete a Disastrous Deal With Iran Observer