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obama is the voice of God on earth. Disagree and you are a racist, unpatriotic and soon to be heretic as well.
And soon to be re-elected.
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obama is the voice of God on earth. Disagree and you are a racist, unpatriotic and soon to be heretic as well.
obama is the voice of God on earth. Disagree and you are a racist, unpatriotic and soon to be heretic as well.
And soon to be re-elected.
obama is the voice of God on earth. Disagree and you are a racist, unpatriotic and soon to be heretic as well.
And soon to be re-elected.
To do what for the next four years? Make further excuses about why he can't get anything done? Why even bother if that's what he's going to give us? Run Hillary or even Al "I invented the internet" Gore for Christ's sake...at least they'd give us SOME competence. You can polish a turd for three years but even if it's REALLY shiny...it's still a turd. Trying to burnish Barack Obama's reputation so he can sit in the Oval Office for another four years trying to come up with some viable plan to create jobs is a wasted effort.
The disciples were of the mindset that if a man was rich, God must have blessed him—hence he was favored by God and would surely have a prominent role in the kingdom of heaven.Obama understands Jesus well.
Jesus would support taxing the rich.
In the Gospel of Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, Jesus adds:
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
The Gospel of Luke has a similar episode and states that:
When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
This is how I understand that part: a rich man is going thru the motions of being "good". He really secretly "worships" his wealth. When he speaks to the Savior, the Savior sees into his heart and explains to him that he will have to shed his adoration of the false god, wealth. (The Savior gave many sermons and many parables, and in no other instance did He instruct the wealty to "give it all away") The rich man was very sad, because he could not reject his sin (like many of us that live in sinful ways), his love of money.
The second part (heard this from a radio teaching): A camel can carry over 1000 POUNDS! That is a lot of stuff (baggage, luggage, goods, garbage, etc). The "eye of a needle" was a gate in the city of Jerusalem that was open at night (the main gates were closed for protection). A camel could pass thru that gate, but only if it had no (that is NO) cargo. This is according to the Savior's teachings that you must be pure at heart to make it to heaven (no baggage, luggage, goods, garbage, etc).
I am sure you will disregard this because it goes against your agenda. The Savior wanted us to be responsible for ourselves (against Obama's agenda). He wanted us to do the best we could with what we had (the master giving 3 servants money..., the instruction not to put our lamps/light under a basket, etc). But if you are interested, you can read the Gospels and try to comprehend it both ways and see which one makes more sense.
In the Gospel of Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, Jesus adds:
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
The Gospel of Luke has a similar episode and states that:
When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Rich men can still enter heaven. All one has to do is accept Christ. Rich or poor. Ill or healthy. A runner or a lame man. An old man or a child. A woman or a man. And nothing we do in this lifetime counts on getting a ticket to heaven.
You miss the point entirely Chris.
It's called 3:16.
No, you miss the point.
Jesus told the young man to sell his possessions and give them to the poor.
ie...the Buffett Rule plus the earned income tax credit....
Rich men can still enter heaven. All one has to do is accept Christ. Rich or poor. Ill or healthy. A runner or a lame man. An old man or a child. A woman or a man. And nothing we do in this lifetime counts on getting a ticket to heaven.
You miss the point entirely Chris.
It's called 3:16.
No, you miss the point.
Jesus told the young man to sell his possessions and give them to the poor.
ie...the Buffett Rule plus the earned income tax credit....
Did Jesus tell the Government to steal the rich guy's stuff, sell it and give it to the poor? No. He told the rich guy to do it voluntarily.
This is where the Dems lose the 'Jesus' argument. Jesus wants each of us to do with willingly.... not have it forced on us by others.
Thank you - and thanks to Obama - for displaying an utter and complete lack of knowledge about Christianity.
In the Gospel of Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, Jesus adds:
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
The Gospel of Luke has a similar episode and states that:
When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Rich men can still enter heaven. All one has to do is accept Christ. Rich or poor. Ill or healthy. A runner or a lame man. An old man or a child. A woman or a man. And nothing we do in this lifetime counts on getting a ticket to heaven.
You miss the point entirely Chris.
It's called 3:16.
No, you miss the point.
Jesus told the young man to sell his possessions and give them to the poor.
ie...the Buffett Rule plus the earned income tax credit....
Did Jesus tell the Government to steal the rich guy's stuff, sell it and give it to the poor? No. He told the rich guy to do it voluntarily.
This is where the Dems lose the 'Jesus' argument. Jesus wants each of us to do with willingly.... not have it forced on us by others.
Thank you - and thanks to Obama - for displaying an utter and complete lack of knowledge about Christianity.
No, you miss the point.
Jesus told the young man to sell his possessions and give them to the poor.
ie...the Buffett Rule plus the earned income tax credit....
Did Jesus tell the Government to steal the rich guy's stuff, sell it and give it to the poor? No. He told the rich guy to do it voluntarily.
This is where the Dems lose the 'Jesus' argument. Jesus wants each of us to do with willingly.... not have it forced on us by others.
Thank you - and thanks to Obama - for displaying an utter and complete lack of knowledge about Christianity.
Damn, I need to read more posts before I post myself and sound like a broken record.
Would rep again if i could .
Did Jesus tell the Government to steal the rich guy's stuff, sell it and give it to the poor? No. He told the rich guy to do it voluntarily.
This is where the Dems lose the 'Jesus' argument. Jesus wants each of us to do with willingly.... not have it forced on us by others.
Thank you - and thanks to Obama - for displaying an utter and complete lack of knowledge about Christianity.
Damn, I need to read more posts before I post myself and sound like a broken record.
Would rep again if i could .
The more it gets repeated, the better. Some people need to have this stuff repeated - often - before they get the point.
The disciples were of the mindset that if a man was rich, God must have blessed himhence he was favored by God and would surely have a prominent role in the kingdom of heaven.Obama understands Jesus well.
Jesus would support taxing the rich.
In the Gospel of Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, Jesus adds:
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
The Gospel of Luke has a similar episode and states that:
When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
This is how I understand that part: a rich man is going thru the motions of being "good". He really secretly "worships" his wealth. When he speaks to the Savior, the Savior sees into his heart and explains to him that he will have to shed his adoration of the false god, wealth. (The Savior gave many sermons and many parables, and in no other instance did He instruct the wealty to "give it all away") The rich man was very sad, because he could not reject his sin (like many of us that live in sinful ways), his love of money.
The second part (heard this from a radio teaching): A camel can carry over 1000 POUNDS! That is a lot of stuff (baggage, luggage, goods, garbage, etc). The "eye of a needle" was a gate in the city of Jerusalem that was open at night (the main gates were closed for protection). A camel could pass thru that gate, but only if it had no (that is NO) cargo. This is according to the Savior's teachings that you must be pure at heart to make it to heaven (no baggage, luggage, goods, garbage, etc).
I am sure you will disregard this because it goes against your agenda. The Savior wanted us to be responsible for ourselves (against Obama's agenda). He wanted us to do the best we could with what we had (the master giving 3 servants money..., the instruction not to put our lamps/light under a basket, etc). But if you are interested, you can read the Gospels and try to comprehend it both ways and see which one makes more sense.
On the contrary, Jesus observed that more often than not, a rich mans wealth is an impediment to faith, not the result of it. The accumulation of wealth can, in this sinful world, result just as easily from greed and aggression as it can from Gods blessings upon our labors. As He pointed out, one cannot serve two masters.
The illustration of the camel going through the eye of a needle (Greek raphis, a sewing needle) gets to the heart of the matter. The Aramaic word Jesus probably used, gamla, can mean either camel or rope (since ropes were made from camels hair). Either way, the point is not (as is often taught) that the camel must be unloadedthe wealth put downbefore one can enter; rather, the point is the utter impossibility of man entering the kingdom of heaven through his own efforts. No matter how hard he tries, he cant work his way in, and no matter how rich he is, he cant buy his way in. Only God can provide access to God.
And thier religion as long as they are able to rob the plates as they're being pased among the paritioners...To condense and summarize:
To the progressive socialists, Big Daddy Big Gubmint = God.
That's really all you need to know.
...flaming...what...?Jesus is a flaming
Obama understands Jesus well.
Jesus would support taxing the rich.
In the Gospel of Matthew, a rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. When the man responds that he already observes them, Jesus adds:
If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
The Gospel of Luke has a similar episode and states that:
When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."