Obama has increased government spending less than any president in at least a generation.

Maybe the most important thing to keep in mind is that we're living in the era of low cost borrowing for government. The government was paying over 6% interest on debt in 2000. Now, the government borrows at less than 2.5%. So while Federal outlays (Federal spending) under Obama have significantly increased, our interest payments on debt have gotten cheaper.
The FED has purchased something like $4 trillion in bonds. Washington pays zero interest on that money, and essentially never has to pay it back.
The rest of the world is so messed up that our government has been able to sell treasuries at close to zero interest.

So that's a huge reason why our annual deficits are not as bad as they could be, or should be in a real world, given how much we're spending. And the increase in the dollar supply created by debt monetization has not led to extreme inflation, as it normally would, because the world is depressed. Yes, Janet Yellen has begun tapering, but some suspect that's a mirage when you look at what the FED is doing with the other hand.

Interest rates remain low, and demand for treasuries remain high. We're living in the era of a magical economy where the government can buy votes by handing out freebies without any immediate consequences. But, you'd have to guess that all this low cost borrowing is creating the worst bubble ever. If that's not the case, why work? After all, if wealth can be created just by printing (or clicking in this case) currency and spent into a real-life physical economic world, then there is no need for industry, for tax collection, for education, for creativity or innovation.
 
Maybe the most important thing to keep in mind is that we're living in the era of low cost borrowing for government. The government was paying over 6% interest on debt in 2000. Now, the government borrows at less than 2.5%. So while Federal outlays (Federal spending) under Obama have significantly increased, our interest payments on debt have gotten cheaper.
The FED has purchased something like $4 trillion in bonds. Washington pays zero interest on that money, and essentially never has to pay it back.
The rest of the world is so messed up that our government has been able to sell treasuries at close to zero interest.

So that's a huge reason why our annual deficits are not as bad as they could be, or should be in a real world, given how much we're spending. And the increase in the dollar supply created by debt monetization has not led to extreme inflation, as it normally would, because the world is depressed. Yes, Janet Yellen has begun tapering, but some suspect that's a mirage when you look at what the FED is doing with the other hand.

Interest rates remain low, and demand for treasuries remain high. We're living in the era of a magical economy where the government can buy votes by handing out freebies without any immediate consequences. But, you'd have to guess that all this low cost borrowing is creating the worst bubble ever. If that's not the case, why work? After all, if wealth can be created just by printing (or clicking in this case) currency and spent into a real-life physical economic world, then there is no need for industry, for tax collection, for education, for creativity or innovation.

Got it, WHEN TRASHED ON YOUR OTHER FALSE PREMISES, DISTORTIONS AND LIES, GO TO YOUR NEXT TALKING POINT!

I'LL NOTE YOUR SURRENDER ON THE 'FREE MARKETS' FAILURE OF KEEPING THE ACTUAL BANKSTERS $20+ TRILLION BUBBLE UNDER WRAPS!


According to one narrative, people with lousy jobs, low incomes, and poor credit ratings have an uncanny ability to overwhelm the better judgement of banks and mortgage brokers, and dupe them into approving risky mortgages. I must have been sleeping that day in Econ 101 when they explained how that works.



Been hearing for more than a decade that inflation is right around the corner too, lol

Fed buying bonds is creating a bubble? lol. ONLY if they NEEDED to sell them off at once Bubba..

Fed was purchasing government debt, Treasury bills. Tax payers benefit from these purchases. Interest otherwise paid to private investors is instead a direct savings for Treasury since it doesn't have to make interest payments.



How much higher was public debt after WW2 again? How did survive again?


Eisenhower, then embarked on the interstate highway system, increased the minimum wage, expanded social security, and expanded govt with health education and welfare....

it is a fully employed population, paying taxes, contributing to social service programs that grows a nation

the restriction of public and private sector jobs, by conservatives and their corporate masters, that is crippling this country,,,,that and their accomplices that support them with votes


Who said ANYTHING is being 'created' (clicking???) again Bubba? False premises, distortions and lies, the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have!
 
And Clinton lifted the Glass Steigall Act, one of the root causes which led to the financial crisis of 2007-2009. Oh wait, don't tell me, the Reps held a gun to his head.

And it was all the Republican's idea to make credit easy, and to reduce the cost of borrowing money. Pooling mortgages to be used to back securities known as collateralised debt obligations (CDOs), and bribing rating agencies to give a grade A rating on them--- that was an evil Republican plot that Democrats fought tooth and nail.

Let's just all join a team. Go Republicans or Go Democrats! Yay Team! Let's spend our days picking out the ridiculous things that the other side does, and defend our party to the last. After all, one party has a monopoly on the truth and the other party is out to destroy America.


PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME MORE OF THIS CLINTON DUDE AND THE GSA WHICH HAD IT'S ROOTS IN THE DUBYA SUBPRIME CRISIS? PRETTY PLEASE?


Why The Glass-Steagall Myth Persists

We're members at the Ayn Rand Center, covering economics and liberty.

There is zero evidence this change unleashed the financial crisis. If you tally the institutions that ran into severe problems in 2008-09, the list includes Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, AIG, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, none of which would have come under Glass-Steagall’s restrictions. Even President Obama has recently acknowledged that “there is not evidence that having Glass-Steagall in place would somehow change the dynamic.”

As for the FDIC-insured commercial banks that ran into trouble, the record is also clear: what got them into trouble were not activities restricted by Glass-Steagall. Their problems arose from investments in residential mortgages and residential mortgage-backed securities—investments they had always been free to engage in.

Why The Glass-Steagall Myth Persists - Forbes


TEAM HUH? LOL


Conservatives Can’t Escape Blame for the Financial Crisis


The onset of the recent financial crisis in late 2007 created an intellectual crisis for conservatives, who had been touting for decades the benefits of a hands-off approach to financial market regulation. As the crisis quickly spiraled out of control, it quickly became apparent that the massive credit bubble of the mid-2000s, followed by the inevitable bust that culminated with the financial markets freeze in the fall of 2008, occurred predominantly among those parts of the financial system that were least regulated, or where regulations existed but were largely unenforced.

Predictably, many conservatives sought to blame the bogeymen they always blamed.

Politics Most Blatant Center for American Progress



Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”




Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."






2004 Dubya allowed the leverage rules to go from 12-1 to 35-1+ which flooded the market with cheap money!

The SEC Rule That Broke Wall Street.


DUBYA FOUGHT ALL 50 STATE AG'S IN 2003, INVOKING A CIVIL WAR ERA RULE SAYING FEDS RULE ON "PREDATORY" LENDERS!

Dubya was warned by the FBI of an "epidemic" of mortgage fraud in 2004. He gave them less resources. Later in 2004 Dubya allowed the leverage rules to go from 12-1 to 33-1 which flooded the market with cheap money!



Bush drive for home ownership fueled housing bubble


He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending.

Concerned that down payments were a barrier, Bush persuaded Congress to spend as much as $200 million a year to help first-time buyers with down payments and closing costs.

And he pushed to allow first-time buyers to qualify for government insured mortgages with no money down





June 17, 2004


Builders to fight Bush's low-income plan


NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.


Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004


Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime

Predatory lending was widely understood to present a looming national crisis.

What did the Bush administration do in response? Did it reverse course and decide to take action to halt this burgeoning scourge?

Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye

In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative


Eliot Spitzer - Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime


MUCH, MUCH MORE HERE BUBBA.

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Subprime_mortgage_originations,_1996-2008.GIF


HOW LONG WERE CDO'S AROUND AGAIN??


Dubya not only ALLOWED the Banksters to run a credit bubble on US, he was head cheerleader. NOT a regulation issue, BUT A REGULATOR FAILURE (YOU KNOW THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THING!!!)


cutting and pasting bullshit from a left wing blogger proves nothing except that you are a moron who is incapable of thinking for himself.

go away, you are boring us.

Got it. AGAIN you can't refute a single sentence so you'll use ad homs.


its nothing but left wing lies and propaganda. the facts refute it. Anyone who was alive during those years knows that nothing you posted (er copy/pasted) is accurate.

as I said, go away, you are boring us with you foolishness.
 
Blaming all this on Rs, most of whom are progressives, is absurd.

No doubt income inequality is a problem, but it is a problem because both parties are owned by the elites and as such, do the elite's bidding. To blame conservatives SOLELY for income inequality and deficit spending, fails on so many levels.

You mean the GOP ISN'T conservative? Hasn't gone sooooo fukking right wing the past 20+ years, Goldwater called them nuts???


Yeah, it's the Dems/Liberals who fight tax increases right? lol

Hint that's the number 1 reason for income inequality. In days where they LITERALLY took 70%+ of someones wages in taxes IF they made about $4 million today, kept corps from GIVING the exec's such outrageous salaries, if Gov't would take most of it.


taxmageddon.png



How the GOP Became the Party of the Rich

The inside story of how the Republicans abandoned the poor and the middle class to pursue their relentless agenda of tax cuts for the wealthiest one percent


"The Republican Party has totally abdicated its job in our democracy, which is to act as the guardian of fiscal discipline and responsibility," says David Stockman, who served as budget director under Reagan. "They're on an anti-tax jihad – one that benefits the prosperous classes."

The staggering economic inequality that has led Americans across the country to take to the streets in protest is no accident. It has been fueled to a large extent by the GOP's all-out war on behalf of the rich. Since Republicans rededicated themselves to slashing taxes for the wealthy in 1997, the average annual income of the 400 richest Americans has more than tripled, to $345 million – while their share of the tax burden has plunged by 40 percent. Today, a billionaire in the top 400 pays less than 17 percent of his income in taxes – five percentage points less than a bus driver earning $26,000 a year. "Most Americans got none of the growth of the preceding dozen years," says Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize-winning economist. "All the gains went to the top percentage points."


How the GOP Became the Party of the Rich Rolling Stone


DON'T WORRY ABOUT ADDRESSING ANY OF THE POINTS I POSIT, AS YOU NEVER DO, JUST CREATING A FALSE PREMISE AND ARGUE FROM THAT POINT INSTEAD, lol


total horseshit. No one ever paid 70% of his income in taxes. In those days there were hundreds of exemptions and deductions. The rich paid a lower % of their income than they do today.
No, your statement is horseshit.

It's not hard to get to 70% when you add up cumulative taxes at the federal, state, and local levels, fines, fees, winnings, then double taxes like corporate taxes.


the chart is federal income taxes, not total of all taxes. read before posting, then you don't look stupid.
 
Maybe the most important thing to keep in mind is that we're living in the era of low cost borrowing for government. The government was paying over 6% interest on debt in 2000. Now, the government borrows at less than 2.5%. So while Federal outlays (Federal spending) under Obama have significantly increased, our interest payments on debt have gotten cheaper.
The FED has purchased something like $4 trillion in bonds. Washington pays zero interest on that money, and essentially never has to pay it back.
The rest of the world is so messed up that our government has been able to sell treasuries at close to zero interest.

So that's a huge reason why our annual deficits are not as bad as they could be, or should be in a real world, given how much we're spending. And the increase in the dollar supply created by debt monetization has not led to extreme inflation, as it normally would, because the world is depressed. Yes, Janet Yellen has begun tapering, but some suspect that's a mirage when you look at what the FED is doing with the other hand.

Interest rates remain low, and demand for treasuries remain high. We're living in the era of a magical economy where the government can buy votes by handing out freebies without any immediate consequences. But, you'd have to guess that all this low cost borrowing is creating the worst bubble ever. If that's not the case, why work? After all, if wealth can be created just by printing (or clicking in this case) currency and spent into a real-life physical economic world, then there is no need for industry, for tax collection, for education, for creativity or innovation.

Got it, WHEN TRASHED ON YOUR OTHER FALSE PREMISES, DISTORTIONS AND LIES, GO TO YOUR NEXT TALKING POINT!

I'LL NOTE YOUR SURRENDER ON THE 'FREE MARKETS' FAILURE OF KEEPING THE ACTUAL BANKSTERS $20+ TRILLION BUBBLE UNDER WRAPS!


According to one narrative, people with lousy jobs, low incomes, and poor credit ratings have an uncanny ability to overwhelm the better judgement of banks and mortgage brokers, and dupe them into approving risky mortgages. I must have been sleeping that day in Econ 101 when they explained how that works.



Been hearing for more than a decade that inflation is right around the corner too, lol

Fed buying bonds is creating a bubble? lol. ONLY if they NEEDED to sell them off at once Bubba..

Fed was purchasing government debt, Treasury bills. Tax payers benefit from these purchases. Interest otherwise paid to private investors is instead a direct savings for Treasury since it doesn't have to make interest payments.



How much higher was public debt after WW2 again? How did survive again?


Eisenhower, then embarked on the interstate highway system, increased the minimum wage, expanded social security, and expanded govt with health education and welfare....

it is a fully employed population, paying taxes, contributing to social service programs that grows a nation

the restriction of public and private sector jobs, by conservatives and their corporate masters, that is crippling this country,,,,that and their accomplices that support them with votes


Who said ANYTHING is being 'created' (clicking???) again Bubba? False premises, distortions and lies, the ONLY thing right wingers EVER have!

More proof that the far left is a more dangerous religion than the one ISIS pushes..
 
its nothing but left wing lies and propaganda. the facts refute it.



Well go ahead and post up your "facts" there redfish. You got em? Right?
If you have no credible sources to refute the information above, well guess what that makes you red?
 
More proof that the far left is a more dangerous religion than the one ISIS pushes..



Hey my new Mexican slave has showed up for "work". Where you been? On A ROOF? I got a job for ya. If you want to work that is.
 
its nothing but left wing lies and propaganda. the facts refute it.



Well go ahead and post up your "facts" there redfish. You got em? Right?
If you have no credible sources to refute the information above, well guess what that makes you red?

Proof far left posts known bunk and expects others to prove them wrong, the mentality of a two year old..
 
More proof that the far left is a more dangerous religion than the one ISIS pushes..



Hey my new Mexican slave has showed up for "work". Where you been? On A ROOF? I got a job for ya. If you want to work that is.

More proof that they far left drones can be bought with illegal slave labor to look the other way on Obama's illegal wars..
 
its nothing but left wing lies and propaganda. the facts refute it.



Well go ahead and post up your "facts" there redfish. You got em? Right?
If you have no credible sources to refute the information above, well guess what that makes you red?


why should I bother to post facts that are there for anyone to find? you and your moronic friends ignore facts. Your left wing religion trumps facts. Everyone knows that.

But if you are really interested go to the CBO website and look up the lies that dad23 posted. But you won't because your brainwashing is complete.
 
Proof far left posts known bunk and expects others to prove them wrong, the mentality of a two year old..


My Mexican slave. Struggles with English and common sense. In other words, you have nothing to back your assertions with. Would that be correct?
 
did you ever hear Bush blame Clinton the way Obozo has blamed Bush?



Are you really that fucking stupid?
Bush blame Clinton FOR WHAT??
Be specific.


9/11 for one thing
the housing crisis for another
dodd/frank
not taking OBL when he could have
lying under oath
the false dot com bubble
disgracing the oval office

But I will say that Clinton was a much better president than Obama.
 
Proof far left posts known bunk and expects others to prove them wrong, the mentality of a two year old..


My Mexican slave. Struggles with English and common sense. In other words, you have nothing to back your assertions with. Would that be correct?

More proof that the far left wants illegal slave labor as a reward for pushing the far left religious propaganda..
 
More proof that they far left drones can be bought with illegal slave labor to look the other way on Obama's illegal wars..



Does this mean you don't want to work on that new roof job? Damn. I thought you wanted some work?
 
why should I bother to post facts that are there for anyone to find?


Got nothing eh? Got it.

There is plenty, but it will not register with your far left programming..

Yes we know the far left posts their religious propaganda, not connected to reality, and expects others to prove them wrong.

Typical mentality of those that are two years old and below..
 

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