Obama fundraises while Putin runs amok

[Siete]

anyone notice EVERY week it's another crisis after another under this Regime?

did you notice this "crisis" belongs to Europe and not the USA ?

 

[Nutz]

anyone notice EVERY week it's another crisis after another under this Regime?

did you notice this "crisis" belongs to Europe and not the USA ?

Shhh....if you tell her that, she will manufacture a new crisis....wait, she already does.


She better check, Got News for some new ammunition. What a pathetic teaper.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Simply put...he did not provide leadership.

I don't want it 'simply put'. I asked you specifically where Obama failed on Iraq, Syria and Egypt as you have claimed he failed on those three areas. Can you explain what 'leadership' would have done for any of those three situations?

He failed to use our assets as a deterrent.

What assets and how could those assets be used as a deterrent?

He failed to rally our allies.

Rally what allies on Egypt? To do what? Egypt is doing better economically and in terms of stability. The only group suffering is the Muslim Brotherhood and the terrorists in the Sinai. So who knows what you could be talking about on Egypt. It is such an odd claim.

Rally what allies on Syria? Did you miss the international cooperation that Obama put together to conduct a six month plan to remove 1300 tons of CW from the war zone in Syria and destroyed on a US ship at sea?

Rally what allies on Egypt? Rally what allies on Iraq? My god. Have you not paid attention to history. The US led many allies into a murderous nightmare in Iraq in 2003 based upon lies and falsehoods. No allies would go back into Iraq following the US after that.

He failed to put in enough effort or seem to care enough to make a difference.

What a farcical comment.

He really didn't need to do much in any of those situations...but empty rhetoric was not the solution.

Name one little thing on Syria, Iraq or Egypt that Obama failed to do.

If you draw a line in the sand and you are the leader of a nation who has the greatest military assets in the world...and you do nothing - you lose respect of the world.

You really did miss what the 'red line' on Syria was about didn't you? Putin changed his position for years that Syria did not have CW and caved in to Obama's threat of air strikes and forced Assad to give up his CW arsenal. It was isolationists like Senator Rand Paul who tried his best to signal to Putin that the US would not do anything about CW use in Syria. Obama was the leader that ended the CW threat in Syria. Even Netanyahu appreciates the move.

Leadership...it is an important characteristic if you are the leader of the free world.

Perhaps you favor leadership of the GW Bush variety based upon ignorance and deceit.
The world has had its fill of that for sure.

 

[Nutz]

Simply put...he did not provide leadership.

I don't want it 'simply put'. I asked you specifically where Obama failed on Iraq, Syria and Egypt as you have claimed he failed on those three areas. Can you explain what 'leadership' would have done for any of those three situations?

He failed to use our assets as a deterrent.

What assets and how could those assets be used as a deterrent?




Rally what allies on Egypt? To do what? Egypt is doing better economically and in terms of stability. The only group suffering is the Muslim Brotherhood and the terrorists in the Sinai. So who knows what you could be talking about on Egypt. It is such an odd claim.

Rally what allies on Syria? Did you miss the international cooperation that Obama put together to conduct a six month plan to remove 1300 tons of CW from the war zone in Syria and destroyed on a US ship at sea?

Rally what allies on Egypt? Rally what allies on Iraq? My god. Have you not paid attention to history. The US led many allies into a murderous nightmare in Iraq in 2003 based upon lies and falsehoods. No allies would go back into Iraq following the US after that.




What a farcical comment.





Name one little thing on Syria, Iraq or Egypt that Obama failed to do.

If you draw a line in the sand and you are the leader of a nation who has the greatest military assets in the world...and you do nothing - you lose respect of the world.

You really did miss what the 'red line' on Syria was about didn't you? Putin changed his position for years that Syria did not have CW and caved in to Obama's threat of air strikes and forced Assad to give up his CW arsenal. It was isolationists like Senator Rand Paul who tried his best to signal to Putin that the US would not do anything about CW use in Syria. Obama was the leader that ended the CW threat in Syria. Even Netanyahu appreciates the move.

Leadership...it is an important characteristic if you are the leader of the free world.

Perhaps you favor leadership of the GW Bush variety based upon ignorance and deceit.
The world has had its fill of that for sure.

Everything boils down to your final statement...the answer is YES. When a superpower flexes, you expect the world to - at the very least - flinch. Under Bush, the world respected the US when we flexed. Under Obama...they treat us like canadians.

 

[Lakhota]

Obama fundraises while Putin runs amok

Unlike Bush, Obama can multitask.

 

[jillian]

Why do you jump to the conclusion that it has to be war?
No one wants war.
Being a strong leader does not mean you have to go to war.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

riiiight.... sanctions aren't nuffin...

the UN isn't nuffin...

he should put on his white hat like in blazing saddles, right?

get a job...

But before you do, let me edumucate you, you make believe attorney that you claimed to be before we allowed you to prove you weren't.....

You put sanctions on the Russian oil companies.......and they will cower.

And if they don't?

At least you did something to show "don't fuck around".....

Or do what Obama does...fundraise.

Now....run along little girl......and get a real job. Those make believe "attorney" jobs don't generate income for food for all of those cats you have sitting around your alcove studio apartment

unlike you, i have a job. but thank.

you've become quite the boring little twit, haven't you?

 

[Peach]

Obama fundraises while Putin runs amok

Unlike Bush, Obama can multitask.

Bush couldn't "UNITASK."

 

[NotfooledbyW]

When a superpower flexes, you expect the world to - at the very least - flinch. Under Bush, the world respected the US when we flexed. Under Obama...they treat us like canadians.

Not much of the world respected Bush for invading Iraq when UN inspectors were disarming Iraq peacefully at that time. I don't know if Iran respected Bush for invading Iraq and getting the US military mired in a decade long quagmire there but they sure appreciated it and took advantage of it.

In terms of people in the world you'd be hard pressed to find respect for Bush,

Russian President Medvedev had no respect or fear of Bush's flexed muscles in 2008 when he responded to Sakaashvilli's attack on Russian people in South Ossetia with a full scale Russian Federation Troops invasion into Georgia to punish the Georgian clown president for what he had done. Remember that? Bush and Putin were at the Olympics in Beijing when Medvedev flexed his muscles and wiped out nearly all of the Georgian military that the Western Nations were building up.


Russian tanks driving literally down the "George Bush Highway" toward Tbilisi. What a memorable moment.

Come to think of it. Georgia was the last time Russian troops invaded any place with guns a blazing and bombs a dropping. Georgia got its wannabee NATO member butt kicked under Bush's watch.

Obama has never seen what Bush saw coming from Russian troops when they (justifiably) invaded Georgia.

Indeed Obama used the threat of force to turn Putin on Syria's CW.

And Putin has helped Obama conclude the war in Afghanistan that Bush could not do.

And by the way it was Bush that signed the SOFA and the timeline for withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq under pressure from Moqtada al Sadr and his opposition to the US occupation of Iraq.

 

[Nutz]

When a superpower flexes, you expect the world to - at the very least - flinch. Under Bush, the world respected the US when we flexed. Under Obama...they treat us like canadians.

Not much of the world respected Bush for invading Iraq when UN inspectors were disarming Iraq peacefully at that time. I don't know if Iran respected Bush for invading Iraq and getting the US military mired in a decade long quagmire there but they sure appreciated it and took advantage of it.

In terms of people in the world you'd be hard pressed to find respect for Bush,

Russian President Medvedev had no respect or fear of Bush's flexed muscles in 2008 when he responded to Sakaashvilli's attack on Russian people in South Ossetia with a full scale Russian Federation Troops invasion into Georgia to punish the Georgian clown president for what he had done. Remember that? Bush and Putin were at the Olympics in Beijing when Medvedev flexed his muscles and wiped out nearly all of the Georgian military that the Western Nations were building up.


Russian tanks driving literally down the "George Bush Highway" toward Tbilisi. What a memorable moment.

Come to think of it. Georgia was the last time Russian troops invaded any place with guns a blazing and bombs a dropping. Georgia got its wannabee NATO member butt kicked didn't under Bush's watch.

Obama has never seen what Bush saw coming from Russian troops.

Indeed Obama used the threat of force to turn Putin on Syria's CW.

And Putin has helped Obama conclude the war in Afghanistan that Bush could not do.

And by the way it was Bush that signed the SOFA and the timeline for withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq under pressure from Moqtada al Sadr and his opposition to the US occupation of Iraq.

You misunderstand the term respect. Respect can be admiration or fear or conformity or any combination and level of the 3. They world may or may not have liked what Bush did...but he did it and they did nothing. He threatened it and no one threatened back.

As for Georgia...you may be right, but then again, that was not our fight and no matter how much we flexed...everyone knew we could not and would not commit our assets to a European problem.

 

[TooTall]

Obama fundraises while Putin runs amok

Unlike Bush, Obama can multitask.

Multitasking is attempting to do two things rather poorly at the same time. The only multitasking Obama can do is lie out of both sides of his mouth.

 

[Lovebears65]

The Bear Is Loose | Washington Free Beacon

Megyn Kelly asked last night, "What is wrong with this President, does he have even a clue on being a Leader?"

The answer is no and this article sums it up best.. He is a self indulgent Community Organizer who doesn't have the time nor does he care to make the time to lead this nation. He has fundraisers, vacations, golf outings , photo ops, WH concerts- who the hell has time to govern?

Obama is doing what Obama does best. Fund raise and campaigning .. He did the same thing after Benghazi when 4 Americans fought for their lives and lost them .. Where was Obama the next day in Las Vegas fund raising and campaigning ..

 

[TooTall]

When a superpower flexes, you expect the world to - at the very least - flinch. Under Bush, the world respected the US when we flexed. Under Obama...they treat us like canadians.

Not much of the world respected Bush for invading Iraq when UN inspectors were disarming Iraq peacefully at that time. I don't know if Iran respected Bush for invading Iraq and getting the US military mired in a decade long quagmire there but they sure appreciated it and took advantage of it.

In terms of people in the world you'd be hard pressed to find respect for Bush,

Russian President Medvedev had no respect or fear of Bush's flexed muscles in 2008 when he responded to Sakaashvilli's attack on Russian people in South Ossetia with a full scale Russian Federation Troops invasion into Georgia to punish the Georgian clown president for what he had done. Remember that? Bush and Putin were at the Olympics in Beijing when Medvedev flexed his muscles and wiped out nearly all of the Georgian military that the Western Nations were building up.


Russian tanks driving literally down the "George Bush Highway" toward Tbilisi. What a memorable moment.

Come to think of it. Georgia was the last time Russian troops invaded any place with guns a blazing and bombs a dropping. Georgia got its wannabee NATO member butt kicked under Bush's watch.

Obama has never seen what Bush saw coming from Russian troops when they (justifiably) invaded Georgia.

Indeed Obama used the threat of force to turn Putin on Syria's CW.

And Putin has helped Obama conclude the war in Afghanistan that Bush could not do.

And by the way it was Bush that signed the SOFA and the timeline for withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq under pressure from Moqtada al Sadr and his opposition to the US occupation of Iraq.

Here comes "CompletelyfooledbyO" on another thread. big whoop!

 

[NYcarbineer]

[ Reagan showed strength with the USSR per the Korean air disaster and Obama fundraises.

That isn't quite the way it was seen at the time:

From 1983:

"The Manchester Union-Leader editorialized that “if someone had told us three years ago that the Russians could blow a civilian airliner out of the skies – and not face one whit of retaliation from a Ronald Reagan administration, we would have called that crazy. It is crazy. It is insane. It is exactly what happened.”

"George Will argued that “the administration is pathetic…. We didn’t elect a dictionary. We elected a President and it’s time for him to act.”

Reagan and KAL 007 - The Washington Post

 

[paperview]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jarhead
Reagan showed strength with the USSR per the Korean air disaster and Obama fundraises.

Reagan's response to the country took four days after the Russians shot down that plane - which, I'll remind you, had not only 61 Americans on board, but a US Congressman.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Russians didn't blow a civilian airliner out of the sky. It was blown out of the sky by participants in a civil war that we have nothing to do with or at least shouldn't have anything to do with.

obama made a serious mistake by thinking he could insinuate himself into a situation that does not concern either him or the United States. This was a Malaysian plane. It was flying over a war zone in the Ukraine. The sole tenuous connection to this event was a single dual American/Dutch passenger. It was shot down as a consequence of flying in a war zone in a civil war.

There isn't any American interest there. He wants to send investigators. Why? It's none of our business. Send condolences to the countries that had nationals on board and to the Malaysian airlines and that's the end of what he could or should do.

 

[Camp]

The Russians provided a WMD to a group of rebels. They used it to bring down a commercial airliner. Whether by mistake or on purpose, the Russians supplied the WMD and hence, are responsible one way or the other.
BTW, there was at least one American on the airliner. That makes it our business.

 

[SteadyMercury]

Putin is running amok doing whatever the hell he wants.

So I guess he "wants" to have his economy going into recession, investment fleeing, and currency diving?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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Here comes "CompletelyfooledbyO" on another thread. big whoop!

I see that TooTall could not attempt to respond to the many facts that I have posted on this thread.