Obama finally brings change to the US

[Oldandtired]

What Obama should do is find where these terrorist fuckers are in Yemen, and send american forces to kill them. If the government cooperates great, if not that's too bad for them

But noooooo. That's not the liberal way. That would only upset the terrorists, according the intellectually challenged liberals. The liberal way is to wait until a terrorist attack is successful, and then prosecute the person doing it.

They are clueless, that they need to stop the attack before it happens, and kill those that plan the attacks, before the plans are successful.

Of course, Obama is too busy jet setting in Hawaii, to even make a public statement on camera.

This country is screwed.

At least Pres. Bush learned from 911 and changed the policy from prosecuting terrorists after the terrorist act, to going where the terrorist are hiding and killing them there.

Not only is Obama is a schmuck, he is clueless, and dangerous to this country.

The Obama administration has made it quite clear to me that they have an agenda to prove that this "terrorist threat" was something that the Bush Administration capitalized on so they can push their own agenda...and not something that we should be overly converned about.

The fact that it took his administration 3 days beforte they had him speak to the nation seems, to me, to support this theory of mine.

 

[saveliberty]

Umm didn't Bush set up the NO fly list, etc while he was there?
Obama has changed that system in what way?
Yet this is Obama's fault?

It is not the list that is in question. It is the current use of the list.
Gibbs said it is impossible to stay on top of 500,000 people on that list.

Really?

And VISA who has 100 million card users worldwide is able to ensure someone who has not paid their bill is not able to use his card.

And these people claim they can run an insurance company with 100 million memebers?

You only have to worry about the ones attempting to enter the country. Gibbs is a joke. We amanged to keep out terrorist bombers for 39 months straight under Bush.

 

[Liability]

THE FLIGHT WAS BOARDED IN LONDON!

the US laws had nothing to do with him being on the plane folks

It was a U.S. Aircraft, nitwit.

You might not quite grasp the concept, but America has the right (and responsibility) to provide for the safety of its own airliners and passengers.

 

[Oldandtired]

This post is a nonstarter. The plot was in the works for over a year. It was going to happen because our intel was broken from the last administration. But, after 9-11-2001 there was a lot Bush did to stop future attacks on America....successfully I might add.
other than that....carry on, zona.

You've got it bass ackwards.

Our intel was broken which caused 9/11. It took awhile to fix it. Not enough to keep from missing out on catching those WMDs from leaving Iraq for Syria....but pretty soon we were catching fuckers left and right that were plotting attacks.

Now we're back to square one...worrying about profiling. So is it any wonder two attacks have ether been successful or nearly successful instead of catching them before they attacked.

Obama just didn't learn anything from Bush. He's gonna have to relearn everything Bush learned.

Actually, our intel is still broken---And Homeland Security and the patriot Act did not fix it.

You are rehashing bad propganda from the right--get out of here. We have been in danger since Desert Storm and it is recently that the Ill winds of our activities abroad is slapping us on the face.

Look at the problem

These bastads can plan these attacks with out letting anyone on the outside of the group know--So how do you infiltreate small cells?

These bastards can manufacture many of the items from Household goods--So How do you find their manufacturing plants?

These Bastards are angry at how we treat the Israel/Palestine issue as well as many other of their mis-concieved notions of what the Middle Eastern nations are supposedly due--So how is our freedom at stake due to a foreign policy issue?


You right wingers have been brainwashed by the Bush Administration and many leading Republicans--you think the only solution is to go to war with nations that have no hand in the terroists issues. The Republicans do not want a solution to this problem because it helps the Republicans gain power even after horrible leadership. Their game plan is basically "Look tough, talk Tough, Attack a country/act tough" When you need resolution.

If you want a right winger in the office--please consider the Libertarian Party. Because that is the only choice on the right.

Mighty partisan post of yours. Wow. Did all you could to paint the Republicans as a bunch of losers who know absoilutely nothing. Cool. Well done.

Sort of takes away any credibility your post may have had.

 

[uscitizen]

THE FLIGHT WAS BOARDED IN LONDON!

the US laws had nothing to do with him being on the plane folks

It was a U.S. Aircraft, nitwit.

You might not quite grasp the concept, but America has the right (and responsibility) to provide for the safety of its own airliners and passengers.

Umm the private airline companies should bear that responsibility.
Or do you love corporate welfare?

If they do not provide adequate security for their passengers they will fail like a business should that cannot keep it's customers.

this is a right wing and libertarian principle is it not?

 

[Oldandtired]

THE FLIGHT WAS BOARDED IN LONDON!

the US laws had nothing to do with him being on the plane folks

It was a U.S. Aircraft, nitwit.

You might not quite grasp the concept, but America has the right (and responsibility) to provide for the safety of its own airliners and passengers.

Umm the private airline companies should bear that responsibility.
Or do you love corporate welfare?

If they do not provide adequate security for their passengers they will fail like a business should that cannot keep it's customers.

this is a right wing and libertarian principle is it not?

Uh...excuse me....the governemnt since the beginning of our great country had the responsibility to defend and protect. I know...you forgot about that now that they also have the NEW responsibility to guide and control.

Our tax dollars are collected so they can assist our airlines with the proper screening of passengers....in an effort to keep all passengers in and out of our shores safe.

Or....you can criticize it as you did.

Yoru deflections and diversions from reality are quite concerning.

 

[Liability]

THE FLIGHT WAS BOARDED IN LONDON!

the US laws had nothing to do with him being on the plane folks

It was a U.S. Aircraft, nitwit.

You might not quite grasp the concept, but America has the right (and responsibility) to provide for the safety of its own airliners and passengers.

Umm the private airline companies should bear that responsibility.
Or do you love corporate welfare?

If they do not provide adequate security for their passengers they will fail like a business should that cannot keep it's customers.

this is a right wing and libertarian principle is it not?

The private airlines, you bombastic nitwit, adhere to rules and regulations promulgated by the U.S. Federal Government.

 

[Claudette]

Umm didn't Bush set up the NO fly list, etc while he was there?
Obama has changed that system in what way?
Yet this is Obama's fault?

Of course its Obamas fault. He's the POTUS. He gets the credit when things go well and the blame when they don't. It was the same for Bush and Clinton and every other American Prisident. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is.

As for the systems Bush set up. Don't you think they are now in the hands of OL'BO's appointed folks?? I sure do. Someone dropped the ball on this and blaming the privious administration doesn't alter that fact. These folks now work for BO, not Bush.

Obama replaced all the TSA employees?[/QUOTE

Obama does now RUN THE SHOW. He is the Prez. These folks now all work for him not Bush or anyone else.

 

[uscitizen]

It was a U.S. Aircraft, nitwit.

You might not quite grasp the concept, but America has the right (and responsibility) to provide for the safety of its own airliners and passengers.

Umm the private airline companies should bear that responsibility.
Or do you love corporate welfare?

If they do not provide adequate security for their passengers they will fail like a business should that cannot keep it's customers.

this is a right wing and libertarian principle is it not?

The private airlines, you bombastic nitwit, adhere to rules and regulations promulgated by the U.S. Federal Government.

And were is that in the constitution?

 

[uscitizen]

Of course its Obamas fault. He's the POTUS. He gets the credit when things go well and the blame when they don't. It was the same for Bush and Clinton and every other American Prisident. Rightly or wrongly thats the way it is.

As for the systems Bush set up. Don't you think they are now in the hands of OL'BO's appointed folks?? I sure do. Someone dropped the ball on this and blaming the privious administration doesn't alter that fact. These folks now work for BO, not Bush.

Obama replaced all the TSA employees?[/QUOTE

Obama does now RUN THE SHOW. He is the Prez. These folks now all work for him not Bush or anyone else.

Congress signs their paycheck.

 

[Liability]

Umm the private airline companies should bear that responsibility.
Or do you love corporate welfare?

If they do not provide adequate security for their passengers they will fail like a business should that cannot keep it's customers.

this is a right wing and libertarian principle is it not?

The private airlines, you bombastic nitwit, adhere to rules and regulations promulgated by the U.S. Federal Government.

And were is that in the constitution?

You might wish to read the legislation (actually, sets of legislation) and then compare and contrast such bills and provisions against the Constitution. The Presidential Signing Statements offer some cool insight, too. For example, you simpleton, here's a link to one of them: Text of Presidential Signing Statements - George W. Bush - 2004

President Bush was on top of this stuff. Too bad President Obama simply is not.

Put another way, since Federal Legislation is presumed to be Constitutional, it would be incumbent on YOU to demonstrate in what way such legislation and associated rules and regulations are violative of the Constitution. I'm quite sure you will never be up to the task.

 

[uscitizen]

So you support presidential signing statements?

 

[Liability]

So you support presidential signing statements?

You are so transparent in your deflection efforts.

But, yes. I have long supported them. In fact, if you had a brain in your collective head, you stupid ass liberoidals would also be fond of Presidential Signing Statements. But since you run on vapors and mindless talking pointlesses, instead of facts, logic, reason or integrity, you idiots get all alarmed by them.

Stupid mutts.

 

[Claudette]

Obama replaced all the TSA employees?[/QUOTE

Obama does now RUN THE SHOW. He is the Prez. These folks now all work for him not Bush or anyone else.

Congress signs their paycheck.

You are such an ass.

As hard as it may be for you to comprehend, OL'BO appoints the head of Homeland Security which includes the TSA. In case you missed it, her name is Janet Napolitano. As an Obama appointee she works for the Prez as do all Federal workers. Anything she and her team do either good or not so good is a reflection on good ole Barry. He is, after all, the POTUS.

Rightly or wrongly he gets the credit or the blame.

 

[Oldandtired]

Umm the private airline companies should bear that responsibility.
Or do you love corporate welfare?

If they do not provide adequate security for their passengers they will fail like a business should that cannot keep it's customers.

this is a right wing and libertarian principle is it not?

The private airlines, you bombastic nitwit, adhere to rules and regulations promulgated by the U.S. Federal Government.

And were is that in the constitution?

"Defend and Protect"

Do you not believe that ensuring American lives are not at risk from enemies during travel does not fall under this?

Whatanass.

 

[Meister]

Congress signs their paycheck.

You are such an ass.

As hard as it may be for you to comprehend, OL'BO appoints the head of Homeland Security which includes the TSA. In case you missed it, her name is Janet Napolitano. As an Obama appointee she works for the Prez as do all Federal workers. Anything she and her team do either good or not so good is a reflection on good ole Barry. He is, after all, the POTUS.

Rightly or wrongly he gets the credit or the blame.

Yep, just like Bush with the democrat Congress, and Senate...he still took the heat.

 

[uscitizen]

The private airlines, you bombastic nitwit, adhere to rules and regulations promulgated by the U.S. Federal Government.

And were is that in the constitution?

"Defend and Protect"

Do you not believe that ensuring American lives are not at risk from enemies during travel does not fall under this?

Whatanass.

Sure the gummit should pay for my auto insurance too.

 

[Meister]

And were is that in the constitution?

"Defend and Protect"

Do you not believe that ensuring American lives are not at risk from enemies during travel does not fall under this?

Whatanass.

Sure the gummit should pay for my auto insurance too.

wtf? What kind of a response is that? Your question was answered, and you give a hack response like that? Geeze, UScitizen.....

 

[Oldandtired]

And were is that in the constitution?

"Defend and Protect"

Do you not believe that ensuring American lives are not at risk from enemies during travel does not fall under this?

Whatanass.

Sure the gummit should pay for my auto insurance too.

There ya go...presented with a good debate and you divert.

Keep it up. You are actually getting pretty good at it.

 

[Oldandtired]

"Defend and Protect"

Do you not believe that ensuring American lives are not at risk from enemies during travel does not fall under this?

Whatanass.

Sure the gummit should pay for my auto insurance too.

wtf? What kind of a response is that? Your question was answered, and you give a hack response like that? Geeze, UScitizen.....

Look at his posts. It is typical of him.