Obama called a 'Traitor' In France

[BlindBoo]

Thats exactly what he did...

Chavez comes to mind..

He had no business doing what he did.

If GM failed then sobeit..... He didn't want that tho because UAW (among other unions) got him elected.

Obama is a fucking tyrant for that alone.

Nope:

Yet the doomsayers were wrong. Unlike, say, France’s President Nicolas Sarkozy, who used public funds to support Renault and Peugeot-Citroën on condition that they did not close factories in France, Mr Obama has been tough from the start. GM had to promise to slim down dramatically—cutting jobs, shuttering factories and shedding brands—to win its lifeline. The firm was forced to declare bankruptcy. Shareholders were wiped out. Top managers were swept aside. Unions did win some special favours: when Chrysler was divided among its creditors, for example, a union health fund did far better than secured bondholders whose claims should have been senior. Congress has put pressure on GM to build new models in America rather than Asia, and to keep open dealerships in certain electoral districts. But by and large Mr Obama has not used his stakes in GM and Chrysler for political ends. On the contrary, his goal has been to restore both firms to health and then get out as quickly as possible. GM is now profitable again and Chrysler, managed by Fiat, is making progress. Taxpayers might even turn a profit when GM is sold.

So was the auto bail-out a success? It is hard to be sure. Had the government not stepped in, GM might have restructured under normal bankruptcy procedures, without putting public money at risk. Many observers think this unlikely, however. Given the panic that gripped private purse-strings last year, it is more likely that GM would have been liquidated, sending a cascade of destruction through the supply chain on which its rivals, too, depended.

General Motors: Government Motors no more | The Economist

I don't fucking care how you philosophize it...

Its wrong...

You may as well try to convince the cop you only stole the car because you didn't have one, therefore its justified..

Its still stealing...

Now, Obama took over a business and it was out of his power to do so..

Anyone who claims what he did was "swell" is a tyrant just like he is...

If you cant obey the Bill of Rights then you're a fucking tyrant, If you cant understand the Bill of Rights you're a fucking idiot.

If you don't understand that it was not a seizure of the company there is nothing to discuss.

Wal-Mu was seized and the it assets sold to another bank.

GM was not seized and sold.

 

[California Girl]

It's a shame, because you would be considered a genius in France.

No, he'd be considered a fucking idiot no matter where in the world he lived. You and Plasma have that in common.

i might be an idiot, but at least i have more value than a common whore.

What a very odd thing to say... not only misogynistic, but also remarkably judgemental and arrogant. You really don't have more value than anyone else....no matter what that person does for a living.

Sick freak.

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama is a tyrant, and so are many on the left.

The guy only took over a goddamn company like socialist dictators do.

You would think that in the United States of America the goddamn president who is allegedly a constitutional wizard would view seizing a company to be a total Fourth Amendment violation.

Who the fuck specializes in a philosophy they don't even respect??

Wow, such ignorance...and three people thanked you for it too.




Scary dumb.



I do like the birther guy still hanging around though, holy crap that's funny right there.

Is being fucking retarded a prerequisite for being progressive??


Every time I post something libdfuck retards don't agree with and they cant refute they resort to name calling...

I can deal with you calling me a name, but what truly pisses me off is your lack of substance and pure name calling...

Your theory of seisure has been coompletely refuted in serval ways.

You don't wait for someone to disagree with you, you start of with childish insults........

 

[Spoonman]

It's a shame, because you would be considered a genius in France.

No, he'd be considered a fucking idiot no matter where in the world he lived. You and Plasma have that in common.

i might be an idiot, but at least i have more value than a common whore.

That's not what your pimp told me.

 

[BlindBoo]

Believe whatever makes you sleep better.

That motherfucker seized GM...

Some op-ed clowns will use soft words and others will be blunt like I am, however at the end of the day the "takeover" occurred...

GM did not agree to anything?

well no, according do Mr nick, Obama rolled up in a suburban ( just to rub it in harder), Pulled out his piece, walked up to the head of Gm,, while having Common on the other side of the Gm head, forced him to hand over the company.

Then they all had man sex while declaring they would kill a bush.

Yep that's exactly how it happend (in Little Nickies mind)

 

[BlindBoo]

Fonda may think Obama is a traitor, but you can be sure he thinks all republicans are even bigger ones...at least Obama is regulating the oil industry SOMEWHAT. His regulators aren't LITERALLY in bed with the oil industry lobbyists...
And it is a Foxy thread title...and I'm a French expert -smiley

regulating the oil industry

Don't you mean systematically shutting it down?

He sure has an odd way of shutting them down

Rotary Rig Counts

The U.S. rotary rig count was down 6 at 1,833 for the week of May 13, 2010. It is 324 rigs (21.5%) higher than last year.

The number of rotary rigs drilling for oil increased 13 to 947. There are 403 more rigs targeting oil than last year. Rigs drilling for oil represent 51.7% percent of all drilling activity. This is the fourth week since 1995 that the number of rigs targeting oil exceeded 50%.

Rigs directed toward natural gas were down 16 at 874. The number of rigs currently drilling for gas is 77 lower than last year's level of 951.

Year-over-year oil exploration in the U.S. is up 74.1 percent.

Rig Count: Rotary Rig Count and Workover Rig Count

 

[LibocalypseNow]

This President's handling of the BP spill tragedy was atrocious. The Media covered for him on that for sure. The terrible effects of that spill will be experienced for many many years. He did limit Media access to the spill and shamefully many in the Press were all to willing to go along. Fonda was spot-on in ripping him.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Fonda may think Obama is a traitor, but you can be sure he thinks all republicans are even bigger ones...at least Obama is regulating the oil industry SOMEWHAT. His regulators aren't LITERALLY in bed with the oil industry lobbyists...
And it is a Foxy thread title...and I'm a French expert -smiley

regulating the oil industry

Don't you mean systematically shutting it down?

He sure has an odd way of shutting them down

Rotary Rig Counts

The U.S. rotary rig count was down 6 at 1,833 for the week of May 13, 2010. It is 324 rigs (21.5%) higher than last year.

The number of rotary rigs drilling for oil increased 13 to 947. There are 403 more rigs targeting oil than last year. Rigs drilling for oil represent 51.7% percent of all drilling activity. This is the fourth week since 1995 that the number of rigs targeting oil exceeded 50%.

Rigs directed toward natural gas were down 16 at 874. The number of rigs currently drilling for gas is 77 lower than last year's level of 951.

Year-over-year oil exploration in the U.S. is up 74.1 percent.

Rig Count: Rotary Rig Count and Workover Rig Count

Active rigs show we are down sine Obamush took office

offshore rigs -32.7% are down anually
Land rigs went from 1,806 to 1,797

 

[daveman]

i might be an idiot, but at least i have more value than a common whore.

Typical leftist misogyny.

Yea, he really is. Misogynistic and a pathetic individual.

Uh oh -- now he's gonna throw a little hissy fit at you!

 

[BlindBoo]

Don't you mean systematically shutting it down?

He sure has an odd way of shutting them down

Rotary Rig Counts

The U.S. rotary rig count was down 6 at 1,833 for the week of May 13, 2010. It is 324 rigs (21.5%) higher than last year.

The number of rotary rigs drilling for oil increased 13 to 947. There are 403 more rigs targeting oil than last year. Rigs drilling for oil represent 51.7% percent of all drilling activity. This is the fourth week since 1995 that the number of rigs targeting oil exceeded 50%.

Rigs directed toward natural gas were down 16 at 874. The number of rigs currently drilling for gas is 77 lower than last year's level of 951.

Year-over-year oil exploration in the U.S. is up 74.1 percent.

Rig Count: Rotary Rig Count and Workover Rig Count

Active rigs show we are down sine Obamush took office

offshore rigs -32.7% are down anually
Land rigs went from 1,806 to 1,797

But what it doesn't show is that the President is in any way shutting oil explortation/drilling/production down does it?

 

[daveman]

But what it doesn't show is that the President is in any way shutting oil explortation/drilling/production down does it?

No, I'm sure it's just coincidence that American rigs have gotten fewer in number since a President who's so hostile to the American oil industry (although he seems to like foreign oil companies just fine) took office.

 

[drsmith1072]

Especially when that same Country's POTUS goes outside the country and disparages h9is own COUNTRY...

And YES Obama DID do this...and HE should Lose on this alone...despite what he is doing NOW.

You're right he did. two wrongs don't make a right. No matter how much youthink the president is a piece of shit keep it here in the states. We give Fonda a pass we have nothing to say against the dixie chickenshit. for their bullshit aganst Bush.

*OBAMA* above all others being the leader of a free Country should be held accountable...The Statists DON'T

Obama TODAY made the CASE why he should.

HE will LOSE on this alone.

So he is the leader of a FREE country and yet he isn't FREE to say anything negative or admit wrong doing of that country??

WOW!!

So how is it a FREE country if you aren't FREE to speak the truth??

Remind me again of what he said that was so horrible.

 

[drsmith1072]

And IN the next couple of days? WATCH the excuses FLY form him...His Apologists in the media...and YES from those here on these boards....

Enjoy the LIARS CIRCUS.

I will enjoy it, especially when the right wingers take the center stage and follow their usual dishonest and hypocritical tactics.

 

[daveman]

um no kidding, and when they say stupid shit i will call them out on it. Calling you out would be a full time job.

I get it. You call someone a "common whore", and it's MY fault.

Typical leftist. Can't take responsibility.

of course I could use the same picture on you, seeing how you didnt like my comments, but then i am not a retard.

Objection. Facts not in evidence.

lol im noy blaming you,dumbass.

You're noy?



Y'know, there are all kind of programs for the functionally illiterate. Ooooh, sorry, too many syllables.

You can get help. Reading is good and fun! See Dick read. Read, Dick, read!

facts? read your posts in here. you seriously are a moron

At least I know how to spell "not", you little sissy bedwetter.

 

[drsmith1072]

You clearly have absolutely no idea about Franks, his connection to this particular mess, or the facts of what actually happened. I'd stop digging now if I were you.

WOW! Please tell me that you are grasping at that lame ass argument where the right tries to blame the left for the right's inaction back when they controlled congress and didn't do anything to stop the banking crisis.

Fact is that republicans controlled the congress and chose to do NOTHING. They had the majority and didn't even send a bill to the floor for a vote so how can you blame democrats??
However, these FACTS didn't stop the right from trying to hold the dems accountable for the inaction of their own party. There was even a youtube video that was produced after dems took the majority in 2006 with cut and spliced clips of dems claiming that things were "ok" back in 2003 and 2004 but it was republicans who were in charge until 2006 and chose to do NOTHING. In that clip the right tries to hold then majority committee chairman accountable for the inaction of the congress back in 2003 and 2004 when he was in the minority.

It's just sad how far some rightwing partisans will go to blame someone else instead of applying their usual rant about "personal responsibility" to their own party.

So why didn't the Dems do anything when they were in control?

Nice sidestep but why don't you respond to the content and show how the right can honestly blame the left for the inaction of the right instead of you turning tail and running away from FACTS that counters rightwing attempts to blame the left durign a time when the republicans had the power but chose to do NOTHING??

No bill was sent to the floor so there was NO filibuster so how can you honestly blame the left for the inaction of the right??

 

[drsmith1072]

Still bitterly clinging to the myth of the left's Big Tent, I see.

The Dixie Chicks were jerks to denigrate a sitting President while overseas. Fonda's a jerk to denigrate a sitting President while overseas. That's what I've seen mostly from rightwingers here in this thread, and it's my view, too.

Did you condemn the Chix when Bush was in office?

I usually respond as I read and in order but I saw this bs from you and felt the need to respond.

BS? Oh, so you DIDN'T condemn the Chix, huh? Looks like that makes you a hypocrite, huh?

The left does have a Big Tent with a wide range of opinions. We may disagree but are far more accepting than the right who has names such as RiNO for those who don't fit the mold.

Uh huh. Ask Joe Lieberman about that sometime.

BTW what you claim to have "seen mostly from rightwingers here in this thread" didn't even start until page 5 as far as i can tell. Let me know if I missed one.

That's because they thread has been mainly derailed with stuff about GM and Obama's supposed treason. Oh, and some guy telling fairy tales about the left's big tent.

Thanks for exposing your dishonesty as you OMITTED part of my post where I state celary that I did not comdemn fonda.

So why did you edit my post LIAR??

You asked me if I condemned the dixie chicks in a desperate attempt to expose hypocrisy where there was NONE.
I did not condemn the dixie chicks and I did NOT condemn fonda.
That left you hanging out in the breeze with your bs attempt to trap me but that didn't stop you from LYING through your teeth as you ommitted the part of my post where I state I did not condmen fonda all so you could call me a hypocrite.

Here is the part of my post that you omitted

Furthermore, I did not condemn fonda. He has his right to his opinions and can express them anywhere he wishes to express them. So why ask me if I condmened the dixi chicks?? Are you trying to claim that I am being hypocritical as you imply that I condemned fonda when I did no such thing?

The truly sad thing is that I even predicted what you were trying to do before you did it and yet you still followed through with it. LOL

So was it worth being exposed as a LIAR all so you could call me a hypocrite based on your LIES??

 

[daveman]

WOW! Please tell me that you are grasping at that lame ass argument where the right tries to blame the left for the right's inaction back when they controlled congress and didn't do anything to stop the banking crisis.

Fact is that republicans controlled the congress and chose to do NOTHING. They had the majority and didn't even send a bill to the floor for a vote so how can you blame democrats??
However, these FACTS didn't stop the right from trying to hold the dems accountable for the inaction of their own party. There was even a youtube video that was produced after dems took the majority in 2006 with cut and spliced clips of dems claiming that things were "ok" back in 2003 and 2004 but it was republicans who were in charge until 2006 and chose to do NOTHING. In that clip the right tries to hold then majority committee chairman accountable for the inaction of the congress back in 2003 and 2004 when he was in the minority.

It's just sad how far some rightwing partisans will go to blame someone else instead of applying their usual rant about "personal responsibility" to their own party.

So why didn't the Dems do anything when they were in control?

Nice sidestep but why don't you respond to the content and show how the right can honestly blame the left for the inaction of the right instead of you turning tail and running away from FACTS that counters rightwing attempts to blame the left durign a time when the republicans had the power but chose to do NOTHING??

No bill was sent to the floor so there was NO filibuster so how can you honestly blame the left for the inaction of the right??

No, I'm blaming the left for the inaction of the left. Why didn't they do anything?

It doesn't look like you have any outrage left over for that, though, in your headlong rush to blame it on the GOP.

 

[percysunshine]

Gosh. When France is no longer an ally of the US...we are in deep doo doo.

 

[drsmith1072]

You clearly have absolutely no idea about Franks, his connection to this particular mess, or the facts of what actually happened. I'd stop digging now if I were you.

WOW! Please tell me that you are grasping at that lame ass argument where the right tries to blame the left for the right's inaction back when they controlled congress and didn't do anything to stop the banking crisis.

Fact is that republicans controlled the congress and chose to do NOTHING. They had the majority and didn't even send a bill to the floor for a vote so how can you blame democrats??
However, these FACTS didn't stop the right from trying to hold the dems accountable for the inaction of their own party. There was even a youtube video that was produced after dems took the majority in 2006 with cut and spliced clips of dems claiming that things were "ok" back in 2003 and 2004 but it was republicans who were in charge until 2006 and chose to do NOTHING. In that clip the right tries to hold then majority committee chairman accountable for the inaction of the congress back in 2003 and 2004 when he was in the minority.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1]YouTube - ‪Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown‬‏[/ame]

It's just sad how far some rightwing partisans will go to blame someone else instead of applying their usual rant about "personal responsibility" to their own party.

Here try these on for size don't let the truth bitch slap your ass out the door.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1]YouTube - ‪Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0&feature=related]YouTube - ‪Explosive Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the "Family" and "Conscience" of Fannie Mae‬‏[/ame]

Thanks for the clips however, how does that counter the FACT that republicans had control of the congress and the comittees and despite that FACT they chose to do NOTHING and now out of sheer desperation you right wing hacks are trying to blame the then minority democrats for the inaction of the majority republicans?

Like I said previously, it's just sad how far some rightwing partisans will go to blame someone else instead of applying their usual rant about "personal responsibility" to their own party.

 

[daveman]

I usually respond as I read and in order but I saw this bs from you and felt the need to respond.

BS? Oh, so you DIDN'T condemn the Chix, huh? Looks like that makes you a hypocrite, huh?

Uh huh. Ask Joe Lieberman about that sometime.


That's because they thread has been mainly derailed with stuff about GM and Obama's supposed treason. Oh, and some guy telling fairy tales about the left's big tent.

Thanks for exposing your dishonesty as you OMITTED part of my post where I state celary that I did not comdemn fonda.

So why did you edit my post LIAR??

You asked me if I condemned the dixie chicks in a desperate attempt to expose hypocrisy where there was NONE.
I did not condemn the dixie chicks and I did NOT condemn fonda.
That left you hanging out in the breeze with your bs attempt to trap me but that didn't stop you from LYING through your teeth as you ommitted the part of my post where I state I did not condmen fonda all so you could call me a hypocrite.

Here is the part of my post that you omitted

Furthermore, I did not condemn fonda. He has his right to his opinions and can express them anywhere he wishes to express them. So why ask me if I condmened the dixi chicks?? Are you trying to claim that I am being hypocritical as you imply that I condemned fonda when I did no such thing?

The truly sad thing is that I even predicted what you were trying to do before you did it and yet you still followed through with it. LOL

So was it worth being exposed as a LIAR all so you could call me a hypocrite based on your LIES??

What lies, you irrational idiot? Do you even know the meaning of the word? HINT: It does NOT mean "something a leftist disagrees with".

So you don't condemn Fonda. Yay you. I retract the charge of hypocrisy. Whoopty shit.