Obama blames the rise of the machines for high unemployment.

[Claudette]

Technology does cost jobs in some areas but it also creates jobs in others.

Its a pretty good tradeoff in my book.

Tell me, who wants to go back to horse and buggy days and backbreaking manual labor?? No cell phones, no computers and no cars??

Not me pal. I'll take all the technology they want to dish my way.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Technology does cost jobs in some areas but it also creates jobs in others.

Its a pretty good tradeoff in my book.

Tell me, who wants to go back to horse and buggy days and backbreaking manual labor?? No cell phones, no computers and no cars??

Not me pal. I'll take all the technology they want to dish my way.

....And, you've gone where....after technology replaced your job?

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[Sallow]

Technology does cost jobs in some areas but it also creates jobs in others.

Its a pretty good tradeoff in my book.

Tell me, who wants to go back to horse and buggy days and backbreaking manual labor?? No cell phones, no computers and no cars??

Not me pal. I'll take all the technology they want to dish my way.

Do you know what caused the "Flash Crash"?

 

[Dr.Drock]

I worked at a bank branch during college, humans still process every deposit and payment that goes into those machines, humans still fill the machines with money, humans still do maintenance on them.

 

[Sallow]

That was my point. The person I was talking to denied that it was a given.

On topic though I'm not stupid I know jobs are lost to innovation. But often times better paying jobs are created in the process. This has been the norm in this country since the industrial revolution. To pin blame for unemployment on this issue is like watching amatuer hour at a comedy club.
Why is it Obama can never do wrong? That alone is as absurd as his position on this topic was. Were it GWB you guys would call him a laughing stock.
Are those rose tinted glasses expensive?

Are you kidding? I've posted threads about things I've thought Obama has gotten wrong, like extending the Bush tax cuts, our continued war in Afghanistan, and trying to include bat shit crazy republicans into policy.

For the first time in history..corporations are spending more on "machines" then they are on new hires. That shouldn't be concern? That shouldn't be addressed?

That might mean a re-tooling of skill sets for many..which means..financing proper education programs to do that.

Conservatives are dead set against that. One of the issues holding up trade agreements with South Korea is a provision to re-train workers displaced by the pact. Who's against that? Conservatives in Congress..of course. They want the agreement without that provision.

It's no wonder that conservatives are pooh-poohing this issue.

My apologies. I've only been here a few days so I'm not familial with your critiquing of Obama. Having said that I wasn't speaking of you in particular so much as the left in general.

Which "left" are you talking about?

Many on the "left" has some pretty serious disagreements with President Obama.

The problem is the "right" puts up this fantasy image of a Kenyan, Marxist, Socialist, Fascist, Hitler-like, Death Panel creating guy that looks like the Joker and expects to be taken seriously.

Try reading Paul Krugman every so often. He's very critical of Barack Obama's economic policies.

But really, we as citizens are between a rock and a hard place. We've got the party of bat shit corporatism, Republicans, and corporatism lite, Democrats.

That's really what it boils down to.

 

[Sallow]

I worked at a bank branch during college, humans still process every deposit and payment that goes into those machines, humans still fill the machines with money, humans still do maintenance on them.

For now..

 

[Harry Dresden]

The President is full of shit! Obama is still trying to scapegoat his failure.

The plow & horse did not create permanent unemployment for farmers with hoes. The Steam Shovel did not do the same to ditch diggers & miners. There have been countless innovations throughout history that replace human labor. New jobs are always created by the advancements in lifestyles that outpaced the ones lost by labor replacing machine. If anything we have to many overeducated government dependent sissy's & to few blue collar workers to build oil pipelines & oil rigs, or operate drilling & mining equipment.

The only thing this country lacks is leadership.

The plow & horse did not create permanent unemployment for farmers with hoes


thats because the farmer usually did the work himself.....the the plow and horse just made his job easier.....same with the Tractor......but some machines have replaced people were there used to be hundreds working that job.....now there are just those feeding the machine and maintaining it....


The only thing this country lacks is leadership

i have been saying this quite often....

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

How can you guys not find his comment simple minded and offensive? I mean really?
We've had atms and the like for decades yet now for some unknown reason out of the blue they're making our unemployment go up? It's such a pathetic excuse and of course the interviewer didn't challenge him in the least.
Hell I would go so far as to say Barney Frank is far more responsible for our unemployment problems than any other factor.

 

[waltky]

Think mebbe the outsourcin' over the last 20 years has sumpin' to do with it?...

... all dem jobs dat used to pay taxes into our system...

... are now payin' into Mexican an' Asian systems...

... while we still build new plants an' factories fer `em...

... think mebbe if we still had dem jobs...

... the American economy would be in much better shape?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

On the off chance that one or two of you might actually care about the facts, here's a factual objective assessment of the current reality:

Companies Accelerate Spending as U.S. Productivity Bypasses Jobs - Bloomberg

Excerpt:

“Machines have the upper hand,” Dutta said in a telephone interview from New York. “You see this huge pickup in capital spending, but there isn’t a meaningful increase in employment; it’s being grudgingly pulled along. The consumer is not going to perform the way people expect.”

‘Unprecedented’ Gap

Even though employment tends to lag behind investment early in recoveries, BofA’s Dutta said the current gap is “unprecedented” in the postwar era: Capital expenditures are expanding at an almost 14 percent pace, while job growth stays below zero, according to calculations he based on a six-quarter annualized change from the ends of the recessions.

In addition, the “unintended consequences” of policy changes indicate the government may “undercut its own principal aim of job creation,” he said.

While the tax bill President Barack Obama signed Dec. 17 allows businesses to write off 100 percent of some purchases in 2011, there’s no similar incentive to speed up hiring. The Fed’s commitment to keep its benchmark interest rate near zero for an extended period also facilitates lower-cost financing for machines.

And who is it that's going to maintain all these extra machines being bought?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm sorry but I have no idea what your post has to do with obamas statement. I don't care about what they are doing in Germany. And we don't need govt and business working together, we need govt to get the hell out of our business.

im surprised you were able to read this jerks post......

 

[KissMy]

We Americans have been well trained to be satisfied with less service.

Yes, People choose price over service. It is hard to believe the "Full Service Gas Station Attendant" was one of the first customer service jobs I saw go away. I say bring them back.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

We Americans have been well trained to be satisfied with less service.

Yes, People choose price over service. It is hard to believe the "Full Service Gas Station Attendant" was one of the first customer service jobs I saw go away. I say bring them back.

The price of gas and you want personalized service at the pump?
Are you just lazy or nuts?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

How can you guys not find his comment simple minded and offensive? I mean really?
We've had atms and the like for decades yet now for some unknown reason out of the blue they're making our unemployment go up? It's such a pathetic excuse....

...Which makes it the perfect Porky Limbaugh created "talking-point".​

Limbaugh: Obama "Cited ATM Machines As A Reason For High Unemployment."

During his June 14 radio program, Rush Limbaugh said:

"There's a new reason for high unemployment as told by Obama. He had that interview with Ann Curry at the Today Show, and basically there's too much automation out there. He cited ATM machines as a reason for high unemployment. No, no. I kid you not. That's right! Obama explained to NBC News the reason that companies are not hiring is not because of his policies, it's because the economy is so automated. He said, "There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM; you don't go to a bank teller -- or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate."

"We've lost two million jobs since the stimulus, and now today or yesterday we learned it's because of "automation." That's what he told Ann Curry. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 6/14/11]

Another Helping o' Pigshit, For Teabaggers​

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It would be easier to read your posts if you took off all that ridiculous flamboyant bs.

 

[KissMy]

We Americans have been well trained to be satisfied with less service.

Yes, People choose price over service. It is hard to believe the "Full Service Gas Station Attendant" was one of the first customer service jobs I saw go away. I say bring them back.

The price of gas and you want personalized service at the pump?
Are you just lazy or nuts?

I just want someone to air up my tires & wash my windows. Obama says if we air up our tires it will save us gas so that should cover the extra cost.

It could be one of those new "Green Jobs".

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The President is not wrong. In just two years I've seen automation reduce the personnel size in my office by 30%.

In the two years did your company grow? Did your company see an increase revenue of any kind?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama is lucky is he holds even 2 of the 57 states he claims to have visited in 2008.

The only politician stupider is Joe Biden

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama blames ATM for high unemployment and then thinks people are too stupid to understand this.

"If you see it when you go to a bank you use the ATM, you don't go to a bank teller." Barack Hussein 57 States Obama

"The 24-hour news cycle is just so lightning fast and the attention span I think is so short that sometimes it's difficult to keep everybody focused on the long term." -- Barack Hussein ATM's killed the economy Obama

 

[NYcarbineer]

All this subject proves is that the Republicans wouldn't have any better luck creating jobs even if you put them back in power.

There's not a single aspect of the GOP economic agenda that is going to overcome this reality of the shrinking pool of labor intensive businesses in the US.