obama allows Brazil to drill in the gulf never mind about the ban

[edthecynic]

The ban has not been lifted for American oil copmanies.

A perfect lesson on how CON$ lie. When caught lying as above, CON$ just keep on lying.

You've already admitted the Brazil permit was the SECOND, the first went to an AMERICAN oil company. So did the 3rd and 4th!!!!!!!

Who has been issued a 3rd and 4th drilling permit? What companies with a source, other than your opinion.

This is a perfect example of why GOP hate radio is so confident in lying to CON$. They know that CON$ are too lazy to research anything for themselves. You could easily google the answer for yourself, but as a CON$ervative you demand someone else do the work for you, even though you provided no back up for your lie that permits were not given to American oil companies when the first permit went to an American oil company and you admitted the Brazil permit was the SECOND. You should have required YOURSELF to prove that the FIRST permit went to a foreign oil company before you decided to lie in public.

Exxon Mobil lands a permit for deep Gulf drilling | Business | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

WASHINGTON — The government on Tuesday gave Exxon Mobil Corp. approval to drill a new Gulf of Mexico oil well that had been blocked by last year's ban on some deep-water drilling.
It is the fourth deep-water well of its kind to be approved since that moratorium was lifted in October, and the first that will rely on equipment from the Houston-based Marine Well Containment Co. to respond to any blowout at the site.
The permit allows Exxon Mobil to drill a well in 6,941 feet of water in the company's Hadrian North field about 240 miles from the Louisiana coast.


Exxon Mobil was close to launching drilling at the site before the Gulf of Mexico oil spill at BP's Macondo well last April. Exxon Mobil already had secured a permit to drill and had a rig on location when the work was suspended under the administration's ban.
The federal Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement that issued the permit has focused on restarting 57 deep-water drilling projects that were approved before last year's spill, including 16 where drilling had already begun.
The three other deep- water projects approved since Feb. 28 - for operators Noble Energy, BHP Billiton and ATP Oil & Gas - were among those 16.
The ocean energy bureau did not subject the Exxon Mobil project to heightened environmental scrutiny because it had been approved before the ban. By contrast, newly proposed drilling - like three deep-water wells in a Shell Oil Co. offshore exploration plan approved on Monday - is undergoing environmental assessments by the agency.
Exxon Mobil said in a prepared statement that it supports the agency's "efforts to restart safe drilling in the Gulf of Mexico so that tens of thousands of Americans can return to work."
To win the permit, Exxon Mobil had to prove to regulators it could swiftly control any blowout at the site by using the Marine Well Containment Co.'s capping stack and other equipment.
The Marine Well Containment Co.'s current suite of equipment is designed to contain up to 60,000 barrels per day in wells in water up to 8,000 feet deep, but an expanded system under development could be used in up to 10,000 feet of water.
Exxon Mobil was one of the major oil companies - along with Shell, Chevron and ConocoPhillips - that formed the MWCC after last year's spill. Others have joined since.
A separate organization, Helix Well Containment Group, also has developed a subsea well containment system.
Twenty-two deep-water oil and gas operators have contracted to use the Helix system in case of an emergency - including the three besides Exxon Mobil that have obtained permits since Feb. 28.
Michael Bromwich, the ocean energy bureau director, noted that the pace of approving deep-water projects had sped up in recent weeks, "since the industry confirmed its capability to contain a deep-water loss of well control and blowout."

 

[Mini 14]

You know, I keep going back to what a poster pointed out VERY early in this thread:

Unless they're drilling within 30 miles of shore, they don't need Obama's blessing, or ours.

We don't own the Gulf. Never have, and never will.

 

[edthecynic]

oh yeah... they are issuing permits (what a joke), but at a snails pace.

Notice how when caught lying, CON$ just modify their lie and keep on lying.
First it was there was a ban.
Then the ban was lifted but no permits are being issued.
Then the permits were only given to foreign oil companies.
Now the nonexistent ban was lifted and permits are being granted for all oil companies but permits are being issued too slow.
At some point CON$ will back off far enough from their original lie to rationalize that they are finally telling something truthful and thus convince themselves that they never lied in the first place.

And, of course, no CON$ervative lie would be complete without including George Soros in the mix.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

He wants to create equality and collective salvation is his goal, save the world that means lowering our standard and raises everyone else's ,were you not listening?

 

[edthecynic]

We shouldnt have to be drilling that deep in the first place but who's keeping count

Just more CON$ervative stupidity.

Oil companies would not be drilling in deep water if there was easier and cheaper oil to be had in shallow water. Oil companies always think about the bottom line. They are not as stupid as CON$ and would not be investing in the more expensive deep water operations if easier and cheaper oil was readily available in the shallow water. They have already tapped nearly all the easy oil in the shallows. The only place where significant oil remains to be found is in deep water.

 

[edthecynic]

http://www.instituteforenergyresear...ason-Economic_Cost_of_Offshore_Moratorium.pdf

At least 13,000 jobs have been lost since last summer’s moratorium on offshore oil production, surpassing projected job losses in a 2010 study by thousands, according to the Louisiana State University professor who authored the study.

Joseph Mason, author of “The Economic Cost of a Moratorium on Offshore Oil and Gas Exploration to the Gulf Region,” estimated that the new regional job losses due to the moratorium on offshore oil production in the Gulf region is now 13,000 – up from his original estimate of 8,000.

Mason also estimated the national job losses to have increased from 12,000 to 19,000; regional wage losses to be $800 million, up from $500 million; national wage losses to be $1.1 billion, up from $700 million; lost tax revenues on the state and local level to be $155 million, up from $100 million; and lost tax revenues on the national level to be $350 million, up from $200 million.

 

[Claudette]

You know, I keep going back to what a poster pointed out VERY early in this thread:

Unless they're drilling within 30 miles of shore, they don't need Obama's blessing, or ours.

We don't own the Gulf. Never have, and never will.

Yep.

The Chinese are slant drilling for the oil of the coast of FL as well. They are in international waters so theres nothing we can do about it.

Of course we could drill ourselves but hey, thats not on OL'BO's agenda.

It ain't green.

 

[WillowTree]

oh yeah... they are issuing permits (what a joke), but at a snails pace.http://michellemalkin.com/2011/03/01/one-measly-deepwater-drilling-permit-hoo-freaking-rah/

Notice how when caught lying, CON$ just modify their lie and keep on lying.
First it was there was a ban.
Then the ban was lifted but no permits are being issued.
Then the permits were only given to foreign oil companies.
Now the nonexistent ban was lifted and permits are being granted for all oil companies but permits are being issued too slow.
At some point CON$ will back off far enough from their original lie to rationalize that they are finally telling something truthful and thus convince themselves that they never lied in the first place.

Here's the naked truth and it's no lie. If obie wan let us tap our natural resources as we should be doing then it would not be necessary for him to tell Brazil "We'll be your best customer." The proof's in the pudding. The secrets in the sauce. End of Story. Facts are facts. We are not allowed to tap our own oil in quantities sufficient to sustain our need. Hence obie wan lied about getting us off foreign oil. End. quote. Period. Dot. Dash and Exclamation point. Comma. Over?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wrong as wrong can be.
U.S. issues second post-spill drill permit in Gulf
Petrobras gets permit for U.S. deep waters

WASHINGTON, March 18 (UPI) -- Washington has given Petrobras America Inc. permission to start oil and gas production in the Gulf of Mexico, a regulator said.

The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement gave Petrobras approval to use a floating production storage offloading facility at its Cascade-Chinook project in the Gulf of Mexico.



Read more: Petrobras gets permit for U.S. deep waters - UPI.com

And Soros is invested in Petrobras to the extent of how much?

A lot less than you are invested in SOROS DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.

Soros has no investment in Petrobras.

LOLOL, Soggy will be eating through a straw for a week after that smack.

 

[edthecynic]

oh yeah... they are issuing permits (what a joke), but at a snails pace.

Notice how when caught lying, CON$ just modify their lie and keep on lying.
First it was there was a ban.
Then the ban was lifted but no permits are being issued.
Then the permits were only given to foreign oil companies.
Now the nonexistent ban was lifted and permits are being granted for all oil companies but permits are being issued too slow.
At some point CON$ will back off far enough from their original lie to rationalize that they are finally telling something truthful and thus convince themselves that they never lied in the first place.

Here's the naked truth and it's no lie. If obie wan let us tap our natural resources as we should be doing then it would not be necessary for him to tell Brazil "We'll be your best customer." The proof's in the pudding. The secrets in the sauce. End of Story. Facts are facts. We are not allowed to tap our own oil in quantities sufficient to sustain our need. Hence obie wan lied about getting us off foreign oil. End. quote. Period. Dot. Dash and Exclamation point. Comma. Over?

Whenever a CON$ervative starts with that you know you will never get the truth.

The truth is the oil monopoly will not put any new oil on the market no matter where they find it. New oil discoveries are CAPPED to limit the supply and keep prices as high as possible. Remember, the new oil find at the BP Deepwater Horizon well was CAPPED. The cap was defective which is why it exploded, but the oil was CAPPED not TAPPED and put on the market.

Rather than "drill baby drill" the chant should be:
"Tapped, not Capped."

 

[sitarro]

this is just an obama bitch fest AS USUAL, get used to it eric....never anything of substance....just whine whine whine and whine.

Word here in oil country is that 13,000 high paying oil field jobs are gone due to his policies, probably wants to get some union slack offs down here........ screw that punk and his idiot cabinet.

 

[washamericom]

maybe i'll become a "gulfer" ... this has to be a conspiracy

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Meanwhile how many thousands of Americans have lost their jobs because of his ban on drilling???

We've enjoyed a relatively low 5% unemployment rate here in LA... not sure that's gonna last give the magnitude of the oil & gas industry down here. Sad, very sad.

 

[mudwhistle]

Drill baby drill, but only in Brazil!!!

 

[sinister59]

And this is the reason he's is allowing them to drill.
“We want to help you with the technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely. And when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers.”
Obama: Drill, Brazil, Drill! – Patriot Update
So much for obama wanting America to be independent of foreign oil.

what band ? you really think there no other rig in the golf , their finding oil of the cost of Louisiana now .
whats wrong with you ?

 

[BlindBoo]

First, the Brasilian have discovered oil off their own coast not in America's gulf coast waters. Second, by using the U.S. Export-Import Bank the President indeed ensures Americans and American companies are involved in the new finds. That means more jobs for Americans.

US Production of crude oil has increases and the 33 deep water wells in the Gulf currently under being held up for safety concerns has not stopped the rig count and producing well count from increasing.

 

[BlindBoo]

And this is the reason he's is allowing them to drill.
“We want to help you with the technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely. And when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers.”
Obama: Drill, Brazil, Drill! – Patriot Update
So much for obama wanting America to be independent of foreign oil.

First question? Since WHEN did we OWN the Gulf? And Second? When did we start giving permission for others to drill where they like in International waters?

The frustration comes for US willing to loan out $2billion for them to drill while railing against tax incentives for U.S. oil companies and banning our drilling there for 7 years.

We will sponsor Brazils developing its offshore oil so we can one day import it.

Please, its like the foriegn aid we give out. A certain (high) percentage must be spent on American products and services. I don't believe they are planning drilling in America's waters no matter what the OP states.

On the loans and more to dispel this ultra hype:

Dispelling the Brazil Oil Loan Myth as Obama Heads to Rio - Kenneth Rapoza - BRIC Breaker - Forbes

 

[BlindBoo]

this is just an obama bitch fest AS USUAL, get used to it eric....never anything of substance....just whine whine whine and whine.

Word here in oil country is that 13,000 high paying oil field jobs are gone due to his policies, probably wants to get some union slack offs down here........ screw that punk and his idiot cabinet.

Got a source for that 13,000 job figure?

Funny which part of the Oil Patch? Upstream, Midstream or Downstream?

News from Houston is the the jobs are up in the sector despite the 33 drilling projects that have been shut down in the Gulf.

 

[BlindBoo]

And this is the reason he's is allowing them to drill.
“We want to help you with the technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely. And when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers.”
Obama: Drill, Brazil, Drill! – Patriot Update
So much for obama wanting America to be independent of foreign oil.

I see you are embellishing the story a bit. Brazil is not seeking to drill in the gulf. The proposed drilling is in the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. It is not in the Gulf.

President Obama Finances Offshore Drilling in Brazil - WSJ.com

Wrong as wrong can be.
U.S. issues second post-spill drill permit in Gulf
Petrobras gets permit for U.S. deep waters

WASHINGTON, March 18 (UPI) -- Washington has given Petrobras America Inc. permission to start oil and gas production in the Gulf of Mexico, a regulator said.

The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement gave Petrobras approval to use a floating production storage offloading facility at its Cascade-Chinook project in the Gulf of Mexico.


Read more: Petrobras gets permit for U.S. deep waters - UPI.com

How long ago did the Bureau approve the Cascade-Chinook project?

April 21, 2008

MMS Press Release

Of course if the President were to block the project the "con"nies would still be whinning wouldn't they?

 

[BlindBoo]

So we should give Brazil several $Billions in American Taxpayer cash to drill for Oil while we have massive Unemployment,Record Poverty,and Massive Debt? Yea that makes perfect sense. Seriously,WTF happened to our Government? What a disgrace.

HeyZeus Libo. No American taxpayer dollars is going to Brazil. If the company take us up on the offer they must use the money on American products and services. Why are you against creating American jobs?

Dispelling the Brazil Oil Loan Myth as Obama Heads to Rio - Kenneth Rapoza - BRIC Breaker - Forbes