NYPD sued for forcing Muslim women to remove headscarves in arrest photos)

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by protectionist, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. protectionist
    Offline

    protectionist Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2013
    Messages:
    24,915
    Thanks Received:
    2,095
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +9,798
    What a nutty age we live in . Americans of past centuries (even the 20th) would think our nation has gone crazy. I know I do. So now 2 Muslim women arrested by New York City police, are all up in arms that they were forced to remove their headscarves, for their mug shot pictures. Well, everybody else has to remove headwear for police photos, so what makes these two think they're so special ?

    Answer: they are Muslims. And as such, they think that all of America is supposed to adapt TO THEM, instead of the other way around. Yup. It's another case of attempted Islamization. I wonder where Muslims get their gall. I guess its a combination of centuries of conditioning, leftist ass kissing, and simple stupidty.

    NYPD sued for forcing Muslim women to remove headscarves in arrest photos
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2018
  2. C_Clayton_Jones
    Online

    C_Clayton_Jones Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    47,000
    Thanks Received:
    10,067
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    In a Republic, actually
    Ratings:
    +30,529
    What’s nutty is the ignorance, stupidity, fear, and bigotry common to most on the right – this thread premise being one of many examples.

    Seeking to defend one’s religious liberty doesn’t mean one believes he’s ‘special.’

    Individuals are innocent until proved guilty in a court of law; being arrested doesn’t mean one is ‘guilty.’

    And although many rightwing bigots would like it to be the case, being Muslim isn’t a ‘crime.’
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. protectionist
    Offline

    protectionist Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2013
    Messages:
    24,915
    Thanks Received:
    2,095
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +9,798
    Everything you just said is wrong.

    1. Most on the right don't show ignorance regarding Islam. Actually, those on the right (especially me) have studied Islam far more than those on the left, who generally are clueless about Islam and Islamization. I have proven this repeatedly with my Islamization Quiz which leftists flunk constantly. 10% is highest grade any of them have gotten. Most got zero.

    2. Anytime someone expects treatment that others don't get, that is them believing they're special.

    3. Islam is not a religion, according to most people around the world, including some entire nations (ex. Italy)

    4. Nobody said anything about being guilty.

    5. Actually, being Muslim IS a crime. It is a violation of the Consitution's Supremacy Clause (Article 6, section 2, part 1) + a violation of the sedition law (US Code 18, Section 2384)

    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia

    18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. TroglocratsRdumb
    Offline

    TroglocratsRdumb Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2017
    Messages:
    7,180
    Thanks Received:
    1,446
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Ratings:
    +10,528
    The police have a job to do.
    They have to be able to identify suspects.
    Head scarves disguise a person’s identity.
    They will lose their case.
     
  5. fncceo
    Offline

    fncceo Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2016
    Messages:
    10,889
    Thanks Received:
    1,612
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Ratings:
    +15,120
    There are rules for conducting searches, particularly of religious groups. In New York, the guiding principle if the NY Human Right Charter and applicable laws.

    Where practical ...

    • Searches should be conducted as privately as possible ... respecting the privacy of the individual.

    • Searches should be same sex (whatever sex with which the suspect identifies).

    • Respect should be giving to the religious sensibilities of the suspect.

    The important thing to remember is where practical. If the suspect resists or becomes uncooperative, the law allows the use of reasonable force to ensure compliance.

    Safety of the police members and duty of care to those in police custody supersede religious compliance rights. A suspect must be identifiable to the police to ensure the right person is charged. A person in custody should not be allowed to retain items with which they can do harm to themselves or others if a reasonable belief exists that they may do so.

    Of course, no search without warrant may be conducted in the absence of probable cause that an offense has been or may be committed.

    If this ends up in court, a judge or jury will decide if the NYPD followed their own policies and the applicable laws.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2018
  6. TroglocratsRdumb
    Offline

    TroglocratsRdumb Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2017
    Messages:
    7,180
    Thanks Received:
    1,446
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Ratings:
    +10,528
    When left wing bigots force Christians to bake them a gay wedding cake it's a 1st amendment violation.
    The Police making suspects show their true identity for a booking photo is perfectly legal.
     
  7. C_Clayton_Jones
    Online

    C_Clayton_Jones Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    47,000
    Thanks Received:
    10,067
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    In a Republic, actually
    Ratings:
    +30,529
    The City of course will make the argument that the hijab must be removed in order to ensure proper identification.

    The women will respond that because they always wear a hijab out of the home they can still be adequately identified, and forcing them to remove the garment is a violation of religious liberty.

    Needless to say, the courts will sort the issue out consistent with the law.

    Unfortunately, there is no such resolution with regard to the right’s ignorance, bigotry, and hate – as the hostility most on the right exhibit toward Muslims has solely to do with conservatives’ unwarranted fear and animosity toward Islam and Muslims.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. TroglocratsRdumb
    Offline

    TroglocratsRdumb Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2017
    Messages:
    7,180
    Thanks Received:
    1,446
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Ratings:
    +10,528
    Yea, where does all of this "unwarranted fear and animosity toward Islam and Muslims" come from?

    9_11_jumpers.jpg
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
  9. Kosh
    Offline

    Kosh Quick Look Over There! Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2013
    Messages:
    24,090
    Thanks Received:
    2,551
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    Everywhere but nowhere
    Ratings:
    +10,367
    When did you join the right?

    Silly far left drone!
     
    • Funny and Agree!! Funny and Agree!! x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. Esmeralda
    Offline

    Esmeralda Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    27,494
    Thanks Received:
    19,824
    Trophy Points:
    2,415
    Location:
    Spain
    Ratings:
    +28,709
    They won't win the lawsuit. It is not Islam that requires headscarves. It is a cultural thing. So the cops were not violating freedom of religion.

    Key point here: don't break the law and get arrested.
     

Share This Page