Now Turkey claims it DIDN'T KNOW doomed jet was Russian before blasting it out of the sky

[eagle1462010]

Ask me that when a Turkish jet strays on the other border and takes a surface to air missile up it's ass.

The real question is whether the Turkish a stupid enough to play chicken. Obvious pun?

Russians have a long history of playing chicken. Trading paint with US war ships in the black sea come to mind.

Trading paint is one thing...........I've been on board a ship when we played chicken.........actually firing is another animal..........The only dang reason there isn't pay back on this is because we are there...........................

It was a Dumb ass deal.......................and could lead to escalation................which is stupid.........as is our policy there.

 

[eagle1462010]

June 2012 interception of Turkish aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

he June 2012 interception of Turkish aircraft by the Syrian Armed Forces on 22 June 2012 resulted in the shooting down of a TurkishF-4 reconnaissance jet.[1] The jet's pilots were killed; both Turkish and Syrian forces searched for them before recovering their bodies in early July. The incident was part of a series of incidents between Turkey and Syria since the beginning of the Syrian Civil War and greatly escalated the tensionsbetween the two countries.


Same place..........different time...............Only difference was the U.S. and Russia weren't engaged.........This area has a territorial dispute since 1939 if my memory is correct.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Another reason why Erdogan is trying to say "we did not know it was Russian"
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151126/1030831123/nato-criticized-turkey-for-su-24-downing.html
Ex CIA Officer: NATO Criticized Turkey for Su-24 Downing

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Turkey ‘Ambushed’ Russian Su-24 to Protect Terrorists – NYU Professor

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Turkey is going to regret taking advice from Obama

 

[Vikrant]

Another reason why Erdogan is trying to say "we did not know it was Russian"
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151126/1030831123/nato-criticized-turkey-for-su-24-downing.html
Ex CIA Officer: NATO Criticized Turkey for Su-24 Downing

This has become a cause for major disagreement among NATO members. I do not think NATO members are excited to fight Russia over this.

 

[Alex.]

Turkey is full of crap, but this is not the first time an unidentified plane entered airspace where it did not belong by mistake or inadvertence. Last thing to do is shoot it down.

 

[Likkmee]

This is becoming a truly "Twilight Zone" event. The Turks were screaming blue murder that this was going to be the last time EVAH that Russia was going to fly into Turkish air space right?

Now this.

TURKEY has sensationally claimed it did not know the warplane it blew out of the sky for apparently entering its airspace was Russian.
By Jake Burman
PUBLISHED: 00:07, Thu, Nov 26, 2015 | UPDATED: 09:35, Thu, Nov 26, 2015

The Turkish military claimed it was following the same protocol it would have for any jet crossing into its airspace, but insisted it was unaware of the nationality of the bomber jet.

Turkey's military said in a statement: "The nationality of the plane was not known... and the rules of engagement were automatically used."

Now Turkey claims it DIDN'T KNOW doomed jet was Russian before blasting it out of the sky

Yeah. OK. Now tell us how(fill in blank) mis-spoke concerning (fill in blank)
Hey. The Great Satan aint got the balls to shoot down a jet from (fill in the blank), or anyone else with a real military.They have heyboys to do that for them. The REAL bosses( IsNtReal) taught them that trick.
Hey. You believed it. SUCCESS !
Be careful this weekend. Buildings may free fall for no known reason.

 

[Stratford57]

This is becoming a truly "Twilight Zone" event. The Turks were screaming blue murder that this was going to be the last time EVAH that Russia was going to fly into Turkish air space right?

Now this.

TURKEY has sensationally claimed it did not know the warplane it blew out of the sky for apparently entering its airspace was Russian.
By Jake Burman
PUBLISHED: 00:07, Thu, Nov 26, 2015 | UPDATED: 09:35, Thu, Nov 26, 2015

The Turkish military claimed it was following the same protocol it would have for any jet crossing into its airspace, but insisted it was unaware of the nationality of the bomber jet.

Turkey's military said in a statement: "The nationality of the plane was not known... and the rules of engagement were automatically used."

Now Turkey claims it DIDN'T KNOW doomed jet was Russian before blasting it out of the sky

Sure they did, it's obvious they were sitting in an ambush hunting for a Russian plane. It's all about loosing millions of dollars of money from trading ISIS oil. They badly needed to do something to stop Russia bombing trucks with ISIS oil and that way to save their Huge income. Turkey has been supported ISIS for years:

For well over a year the Turkish Government has been secretly supporting ISIS, but the US and NATO turn a blind eye to this because of Turkey’s geopolitical position. ISIS as an armed force – though not ISIS terrorists outside the Mid East region – would most likely have been defeated long ago had it not been for Turkey’s support.

According to journalist, Nafeez Ahmed: “Earlier this year, the Turkish daily Today’s Zaman reported that “more than 100,000 fake Turkish passports” had been given to ISIS. Erdogan’s government, the newspaper added, “has been accused of supporting the terrorist organization by turning a blind eye to its militants crossing the border and even buying its oil… Based on a 2014 report, Sezgin Tanrıkulu, deputy chairman of the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) said that ISIS terrorists fighting in Syria claimed to have been treated in hospitals in Turkey.”

Dr Ahmed adds: “In January, authenticated official documents of the Turkish military were leaked online, showing that Turkey’s intelligence services (MIT) had been caught in Adana by military officers transporting missiles, mortars and anti-aircraft ammunition via truck “to the al-Qaeda terror organisation” in Syria. According to other ISIS suspects facing trial in Turkey, the Turkish national military intelligence organization (MIT) had begun smuggling arms, including NATO weapons to jihadist groups in Syria as early as 2011.” Also: “Turkey has also played a key role in facilitating the life-blood of ISIS’ expansion: black market oil sales. Senior political and intelligence sources in Turkey and Iraq confirm that Turkish authorities have actively facilitated ISIS oil sales through the country. Last summer, an opposition politician estimated the quantity of ISIS oil sales in Turkey at about $800 million—that was over a year ago.”

ISIS survives largely because Turkey allows it to: the evidence

 

[guno]

 

[tinydancer]

This was a big whoopsies moment by Erdogan. He can't walk it back now.

Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan says he gave the order to fire himself. Photograph: Umit Bektas/Reuters

Why did it take Turkey just 17 seconds to shoot down Russian jet?

 

[skye]

Who's plane did they think it was?

From the US? they certainly would not have fired on that plane.

The Turks must have very inefficient systems and half blind pilots if planes can't be recognized!

They are admitting the are a chaotic danger!

Ergodan once again is trying to be cunning and duplicitous, but now we all know his game.

The Syrian airforce has Su-24, too. But I am pretty sure, Erdogan knew whose plane he was downing.[/Q

The area in question has been patrolled by Russian planes since they arrived from the nearby base in Latakia.

Using the Turkish logic they could just as well shot down one of their own planes.

 

[OnePercenter]

Trading paint is one thing...........I've been on board a ship when we played chicken.........actually firing is another animal..........The only dang reason there isn't pay back on this is because we are there...........................

It was a Dumb ass deal.......................and could lead to escalation................which is stupid.........as is our policy there.

Trading paint IS playing chicken. Russia has a long history of such. This was a chicken play that failed. There was no reason for the Russian plane to be in Turkish airspace other than a chicken play.

 

[OnePercenter]

The area in question has been patrolled by Russian planes since they arrived from the nearby base in Latakia.

Using the Turkish logic they could just as well shot down one of their own planes.

The chicken play, and the Turks had enough.

 

[OnePercenter]

Turkey is going to regret taking advice from Obama

Why?

If Russia attacks Turkey they will have to deal with us. Something that will make Republicans happy.

 

[OnePercenter]

Turkey is full of crap, but this is not the first time an unidentified plane entered airspace where it did not belong by mistake or inadvertence. Last thing to do is shoot it down.

You have to make your mark in the sand somewhere. It's nothing more than stand your ground. Putin threw popcorn at Turkey, and Turkey killed one. Sounds like a southern State.

 

[Alex.]

Turkey is full of crap, but this is not the first time an unidentified plane entered airspace where it did not belong by mistake or inadvertence. Last thing to do is shoot it down.

You have to make your mark in the sand somewhere. It's nothing more than stand your ground. Putin threw popcorn at Turkey, and Turkey killed one. Sounds like a southern State.

Make the mark then stand by it. Don't pull the "I did not know" excuse.

 

[tinydancer]

Who's plane did they think it was?

From the US? they certainly would not have fired on that plane.

The Turks must have very inefficient systems and half blind pilots if planes can't be recognized!

They are admitting the are a chaotic danger!

Ergodan once again is trying to be cunning and duplicitous, but now we all know his game.

The Syrian airforce has Su-24, too. But I am pretty sure, Erdogan knew whose plane he was downing.[/Q

The area in question has been patrolled by Russian planes since they arrived from the nearby base in Latakia.

Using the Turkish logic they could just as well shot down one of their own planes.

Only 17 seconds in. Cripes like you said it could have been any plane.

 

[Toro]

Russian planes has been flying into the airspace of Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Ukraine and Turkey for some time now.

And one got shot down.

They got what was coming to them.

And the anti-American Putin apologists are bitching like Russia is innocent.

 

[tinydancer]

Trading paint is one thing...........I've been on board a ship when we played chicken.........actually firing is another animal..........The only dang reason there isn't pay back on this is because we are there...........................

It was a Dumb ass deal.......................and could lead to escalation................which is stupid.........as is our policy there.

Trading paint IS playing chicken. Russia has a long history of such. This was a chicken play that failed. There was no reason for the Russian plane to be in Turkish airspace other than a chicken play.

17 seconds in if what the Turks claim is true. And for them playing the game of "lets arm ISIS and al Nusra" they should be charged for crimes against humanity.