Now THIS Is Interesting: States with the Most People Moving Out -- Guess Who Runs Most of Them

[mikegriffith1]

According to the United Van Lines (UVL) annual report on the amount of move-outs vs. move-ins per state, in 2018 the states that had more people move out than moved in, and in the largest numbers, are as follows:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New York
Massachusetts
Illinois
Kansas

As you might have noticed, five of those six states are blue states. Why do you suppose that is?

In commenting on the UVL study, an article on msn.com noted:

There seems to be a larger trend of residents leaving the Northeast, with the notable exception of Vermont: Connecticut, New York and Massachusetts ranked in the top 10 states where most residents moved out. . . .

In fact, five of the 10 worst-performing states on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index — which evaluates states on the competitiveness of their tax rates and structures — are also among the 10 states with the most outbound migration in the UVL report." (Why people are fleeing this state more than any other)​

Conversely, the states that saw the most people move in are as follows--notice that seven of the 11 are red states, and that three of the four blue states either have no income tax or no sales tax:

South Carolina
Vermont
Arizona
Nevada (no income tax)
South Dakota
Idaho
Oregon (no sales tax)
Washington (no income tax)
Tennessee
North Carolina
Florida

Is it a coincidence that Oregon, Washington, Vermont, and Nevada are the four best fiscally run blue states? And, as mentioned, three of them also happen to be states that have no state income tax (WA, NV) or no sales tax (OR).

 

[Wuwei]

It seems the statistics you gave are a bit cherry-picked. These are the actual statistics given by the United Van Lines site.

The top outbound states for 2018 were:

1. New Jersey
2. Illinois
3. Connecticut
4. New York
5. Kansas
6. Ohio
7. Massachusetts
8. Iowa
9. Montana
10. Michigan

The top inbound states of 2018 were:

1. Vermont
2. Oregon
3. Idaho
4. Nevada
5. Arizona
6. South Carolina
7. Washington
8. North Carolina
9. South Dakota
10. District of Columbia

 

[kyzr]

Wait until the new tax code starts biting, where they can't deduct local taxes to level the playing field across the US. The high tax states will lose even more folks to the low tax red states.

 

[mikegriffith1]

It seems the statistics you gave are a bit cherry-picked. These are the actual statistics given by the United Van Lines site.

The top outbound states for 2018 were:

1. New Jersey
2. Illinois
3. Connecticut
4. New York
5. Kansas
6. Ohio
7. Massachusetts
8. Iowa
9. Montana
10. Michigan

The top inbound states of 2018 were:

1. Vermont
2. Oregon
3. Idaho
4. Nevada
5. Arizona
6. South Carolina
7. Washington
8. North Carolina
9. South Dakota
10. District of Columbia

Uh, I wasn't attempting to put the states in order, which is why I did not number them. Are you going to answer the other points in the OP?

Kansas, Iowa, and Montana have low tax burdens and rank high in fiscal health in the George Mason Mercatus Center's annual ranking for state fiscal health. So clearly economic mismanagement is not contributing to the move-outs from those states.

Also, DC's influx is 99% caused by people moving to the district for federal jobs and by staffers of newly elected members of Congress moving into the district.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It seems the statistics you gave are a bit cherry-picked. These are the actual statistics given by the United Van Lines site.

The top outbound states for 2018 were:

1. New Jersey
2. Illinois
3. Connecticut
4. New York
5. Kansas
6. Ohio
7. Massachusetts
8. Iowa
9. Montana
10. Michigan

The top inbound states of 2018 were:

1. Vermont
2. Oregon
3. Idaho
4. Nevada
5. Arizona
6. South Carolina
7. Washington
8. North Carolina
9. South Dakota
10. District of Columbia

Uh, I wasn't attempting to put the states in order, which is why I did not number them. Are you going to answer the other points in the OP?

Kansas, Iowa, and Montana have low tax burdens and rank high in fiscal health in the George Mason Mercatus Center's annual ranking for state fiscal health. So clearly economic mismanagement is not contributing to the move-outs from those states.

Also, DC's influx is 99% caused by people moving to the district for federal jobs and by staffers of newly elected members of Congress moving into the district.

The one thing the left will never admit to is that increased taxes cause a reaction be it business or citizens. Same holds true for increased cost of living like a $15.00 minimum wage.

My sister just moved from her home near where I live. We have some of the highest property taxes in the county. When seeking a new place to live, one of her first concerns were property taxes. So she purchased a town house in a beautiful suburb with low tax rates. Yes, she paid a good buck for her new house, but in the long run, she will save money because of the taxes.

High taxes bring down property values. True, there are some who don't even pay attention when buying a home. They look at price only, and usually end up on an escrow and just look at the bottom line when it comes to cost. They pay little attention to the taxes. After a while when they keep increasing, they finally do the research needed to give them the answer they were looking for. Then they too move to a lower tax area.

 

[Timmy]

Those blue states are expensive to live in BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL!

Do you go to the part of your town with the most expensive real estate and say “look at this crappy neighborhood “ ?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

People move out of Kansas because it offers no culture or career. Dead State unless you live close to Kansas City

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Those blue states are expensive to live in BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL!

Do you go to the part of your town with the most expensive real estate and say “look at this crappy neighborhood “ ?

Of course, it can't be because of the taxes, the government unions, the costly regulations on businesses, it's because they're so successful.

During the winter I like to watch HGTV. When they have houses on in the NE and California, I'm amazed at the prices. What you can get here in my state for around 200K is what you'd pay 800K for in those states. After Trump cut the maximum on home loan deductions, nobody from the blue states were crying about it.

 

[Kondor3]

The trend can be explained as White Folk getting tired of propping-up Democratic Urban Ghetto-Plantations with their tax dollars.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Those blue states are expensive to live in BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL!

Do you go to the part of your town with the most expensive real estate and say “look at this crappy neighborhood “ ?

Illinois is successful? That just proves your delusionality.

 

[Unkotare]

According to the United Van Lines (UVL) annual report on the amount of move-outs vs. move-ins per state, in 2018 the states that had more people move out than moved in, and in the largest numbers, are as follows:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New York
Massachusetts
Illinois
Kansas

As you might have noticed, five of those six states are blue states. Why do you suppose that is?

In commenting on the UVL study, an article on msn.com noted:

There seems to be a larger trend of residents leaving the Northeast, with the notable exception of Vermont: Connecticut, New York and Massachusetts ranked in the top 10 states where most residents moved out. . . .

In fact, five of the 10 worst-performing states on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index — which evaluates states on the competitiveness of their tax rates and structures — are also among the 10 states with the most outbound migration in the UVL report." (Why people are fleeing this state more than any other)​

Conversely, the states that saw the most people move in are as follows--notice that seven of the 11 are red states, and that three of the four blue states either have no income tax or no sales tax:

South Carolina
Vermont
Arizona
Nevada (no income tax)
South Dakota
Idaho
Oregon (no sales tax)
Washington (no income tax)
Tennessee
North Carolina
Florida

Is it a coincidence that Oregon, Washington, Vermont, and Nevada are the four best fiscally run blue states? And, as mentioned, three of them also happen to be states that have no state income tax (WA, NV) or no sales tax (OR).

Misleading

 

[Wuwei]

Uh, I wasn't attempting to put the states in order, which is why I did not number them. Are you going to answer the other points in the OP?

Kansas, Iowa, and Montana have low tax burdens and rank high in fiscal health in the George Mason Mercatus Center's annual ranking for state fiscal health. So clearly economic mismanagement is not contributing to the move-outs from those states.

Also, DC's influx is 99% caused by people moving to the district for federal jobs and by staffers of newly elected members of Congress moving into the district.

I think you might be reading too much into it. If you click on the states in the map at the UVL site the pop-up menus show the most popular reasons for moving in or out. Many rank jobs and retirement highest. Many rank "family" highest. State taxes aren't included, so it's hard to say anything about that from the site.

 

[Unkotare]

Just to point out the painfully obvious, New England states have a shit-ton of universities, so every year a shit-ton of people graduate and move back home (or wherever). It’s not just because of the crazy liberalism. Not entirely.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Just to point out the painfully obvious, New England states have a shit-ton of universities, so every year a shit-ton of people graduate and move back home (or wherever). It’s not just because of the crazy liberalism. Not entirely.

What about new students moving in to replace them?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Is it a coincidence that Oregon, Washington, Vermont, and Nevada are the four best fiscally run blue states? And, as mentioned, three of them also happen to be states that have no state income tax (WA, NV) or no sales tax (OR).

I've held a concealed carry permit for each of the four with the exception of Vermont where a CCW permit is not required to carry.

That's what they all in common, at least to me ;-)

 

[Norman]

White flight....

 

[Markle]

According to the United Van Lines (UVL) annual report on the amount of move-outs vs. move-ins per state, in 2018 the states that had more people move out than moved in, and in the largest numbers, are as follows:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New York
Massachusetts
Illinois
Kansas

As you might have noticed, five of those six states are blue states. Why do you suppose that is?

In commenting on the UVL study, an article on msn.com noted:

There seems to be a larger trend of residents leaving the Northeast, with the notable exception of Vermont: Connecticut, New York and Massachusetts ranked in the top 10 states where most residents moved out. . . .

In fact, five of the 10 worst-performing states on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index — which evaluates states on the competitiveness of their tax rates and structures — are also among the 10 states with the most outbound migration in the UVL report." (Why people are fleeing this state more than any other)​

Conversely, the states that saw the most people move in are as follows--notice that seven of the 11 are red states, and that three of the four blue states either have no income tax or no sales tax:

South Carolina
Vermont
Arizona
Nevada (no income tax)
South Dakota
Idaho
Oregon (no sales tax)
Washington (no income tax)
Tennessee
North Carolina
Florida

Is it a coincidence that Oregon, Washington, Vermont, and Nevada are the four best fiscally run blue states? And, as mentioned, three of them also happen to be states that have no state income tax (WA, NV) or no sales tax (OR).

One easy, fun way to compare where people are moving to and from is to check the rates of U-Haul and Ryder Truck rentals to and from specific cities.

 

[Markle]

According to the United Van Lines (UVL) annual report on the amount of move-outs vs. move-ins per state, in 2018 the states that had more people move out than moved in, and in the largest numbers, are as follows:

New Jersey
Connecticut
New York
Massachusetts
Illinois
Kansas

As you might have noticed, five of those six states are blue states. Why do you suppose that is?

In commenting on the UVL study, an article on msn.com noted:

There seems to be a larger trend of residents leaving the Northeast, with the notable exception of Vermont: Connecticut, New York and Massachusetts ranked in the top 10 states where most residents moved out. . . .

In fact, five of the 10 worst-performing states on the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index — which evaluates states on the competitiveness of their tax rates and structures — are also among the 10 states with the most outbound migration in the UVL report." (Why people are fleeing this state more than any other)​

Conversely, the states that saw the most people move in are as follows--notice that seven of the 11 are red states, and that three of the four blue states either have no income tax or no sales tax:

South Carolina
Vermont
Arizona
Nevada (no income tax)
South Dakota
Idaho
Oregon (no sales tax)
Washington (no income tax)
Tennessee
North Carolina
Florida

Is it a coincidence that Oregon, Washington, Vermont, and Nevada are the four best fiscally run blue states? And, as mentioned, three of them also happen to be states that have no state income tax (WA, NV) or no sales tax (OR).

Misleading

How?

 

[2aguy]

Those blue states are expensive to live in BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL!

Do you go to the part of your town with the most expensive real estate and say “look at this crappy neighborhood “ ?

Moron, Illinois is a failed state, about to crash because of the fiscal mismanagement by decades of mike madigan and the chicago democrats running the place...

 

[IM2]

Kansas is now a failed state because of 8 years of republican fiscal policy.