Now That Flipper Has Reversed Himself On All The Things You Loved Him For...

...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.




4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

.

Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?


Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

Are labor unions supporting Trump?

I doubt it.

Most unions have sold out their members interests to be tools of the Democratic Party long ago.

Why do you ask?
 
No one has been a greater liar or con artist than Barack Obama. He is just more accomplished at it and he has a legacy to confirm it.if you define stupid as doing dumb things,than Obama and Hilary both earn gold,stars. Trump hasn't done anything yet but amass a billion dollar fortune and beat the pants off the republican establishment, setting records for turnout and minimal,spending. Th mdemocratic stalwarts here are following the party line of incessant attacks on trump. Not one single post extols,the virtues of Hilary's accomplishments. Ya all keep calling everyone who believes in America and fights your wars dumb and stupid and you will just drive more people to trump. I posted this earlier that this contest now reminds me of an old joke. I'm fat but your ugly, and I can lose weight. Trump can lose weight. The truly dumb people are the ones declaring the contest over before it has hardly begun and the fat lady has sung. And for those screaming divisiveness, nothing is more divisive than calling 40 per cent of your fellow Americans dumb and stupid.

Trump won't get the Hispanic vote
Trump won't get the black vote
or the womens vote
he will SPLIT the independent vote

NEVER in the history of this country has a candidate ever won a general election with those stats ... NEVER.

now who are you calling truly dumb again?
 
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Flipper, that is a good monicker for trump. With atrophied front fins.

A few years ago the word 'flip-flopper' was satanic poison to be said about any candidate for cons, now it is their front runner's DNA. He doesn't stand on anything or for anything. And a great point earlier, cons have whined and gnashed teeth about never having a candidate that is 'conservative enough', that that is why they lost elections.

Well now you derps have nominated trump. So wrap your lips around the trump tailpipe and breath in his oxygen free exhaust gas. Embrace the horror that is of your creation.
 
...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.




4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

.

Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?


Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

Are labor unions supporting Trump?

I doubt it.

Most unions have sold out their members interests to be tools of the Democratic Party long ago.

Why do you ask?

Simple. Labor unions represent leverage for workers. Enormous leverage. If Trump was for workers more than Hillary, he'd have labor union support.

You can't support your claim regarding "most unions" selling out their members. You should not say things that you cannot support.
 
What the Trump explainists have said is all true. What we all have seen of the Clintons is a matter of fact. Now we have a problem in that how the government actually works is when the Congress and the president can agree on some things and actually get anything done. The republican leadership has marginalized Obama so in his last term he got nothing done. Obama holds the veto so all the congress did was waste 8 years, that we could have used to improve our situation, knowing they were not going to get their christian driven agenda into law.

So we are faced with only one real question to break the impasse between Trump and Clinton. Which one will congress bless with any co-operation in taking care of the business of our nation passing legislation that Clinton or Trump will sign into law.

There is still time left for Trump to either win over the congressional leadership or drive them further away from him.

Hillary is Hillary. Congress knows what to expect from her. Will they hold their noses and work with her? I do not know. I really HATE her position on the 2nd amendment. That alone plus the truckload of bad legislation her husband signed into law what with the trade agreements that have escalated overseas/latin american manufacture and production of way too many of the products we buy make it impossible to vote for her.
Gotta go... I'll chime in later.
 
When did he promise he would bomb families.
If you don't like Trump that's fine. But don't spread lies please.


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THe gop leadership believed him. Look how they mobilized against him to the point of being willing to LOSE.


WHat of the gloating you lefties are doing each time a Famous conservatives leaves or vows to not vote for him?

Are they fools to believe he is not an insider?
After running as the Reform Party candidate's nominee for President in 2000, The Donald changed his party affiliation to Democrat in 2001, which is only to be expected from a "very pro-choice" New York limousine liberal.

He and his family donated to all of Hillary's campaigns. He also funded the DNC Chairman's run for Governor of Virginia. He screeched for Bush's impeachment just like Cindy Sheehan. He said Bill was a great President, and Hillary would make a great President. He said the Clintons "are fine people". In 2013, he said Hillary was the best Secretary of State ever.

This is how we know he is not a Republican Establishment insider...


So you seem to be grasping that this is very serious change for the GOP.

Would you say that it true?
I would say the selection of a Democratic limousine liberal who is "very pro choice", who wants socialized medicine and an AWB, and is a close friend of the Clintons is a HUGE change for the GOP. Yes, absolutely.
No one has been a greater liar or con artist than Barack Obama. He is just more accomplished at it and he has a legacy to confirm it.if you define stupid as doing dumb things,than Obama and Hilary both earn gold,stars. Trump hasn't done anything yet but amass a billion dollar fortune and beat the pants off the republican establishment, setting records for turnout and minimal,spending. Th mdemocratic stalwarts here are following the party line of incessant attacks on trump. Not one single post extols,the virtues of Hilary's accomplishments. Ya all keep calling everyone who believes in America and fights your wars dumb and stupid and you will just drive more people to trump. I posted this earlier that this contest now reminds me of an old joke. I'm fat but your ugly, and I can lose weight. Trump can lose weight. The truly dumb people are the ones declaring the contest over before it has hardly begun and the fat lady has sung. And for those screaming divisiveness, nothing is more divisive than calling 40 per cent of your fellow Americans dumb and stupid.

Trump won't get the Hispanic vote
Trump won't get the black vote
or the womens vote
he will SPLIT the independent vote

NEVER in the history of this country has a candidate ever won a general election with those stats ... NEVER.

now who are you calling truly dumb again?


The woman's vote is a myth. It is split along ethnic lines.


And if Trump can run up the white vote, he will win.
 
Had obama or clinton flip flopped like Trump has, the right (T supporters) would be all over those two like white on rice.

All of them.
Clinton flips all the time, and the Left does get all over her on it.

The Clintons are masters of triangulation. But this topic is not about them. Take your red herring elsewhere.

Bullshit.

No herring, just pointing out the hypocrisy of T supporters. Get over yourself.
 
Flipper, that is a good monicker for trump. With atrophied front fins.

A few years ago the word 'flip-flopper' was satanic poison to be said about any candidate for cons, now it is their front runner's DNA. He doesn't stand on anything or for anything. And a great point earlier, cons have whined and gnashed teeth about never having a candidate that is 'conservative enough', that that is why they lost elections.

Well now you derps have nominated trump. So wrap your lips around the trump tailpipe and breath in his oxygen free exhaust gas. Embrace the horror that is of your creation.

So, are you in favor of the use of illegal labor, and H1-b visas and outsourcing to undercut US workers?
 
4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

.

Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?


Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

Are labor unions supporting Trump?

I doubt it.

Most unions have sold out their members interests to be tools of the Democratic Party long ago.

Why do you ask?

Simple. Labor unions represent leverage for workers. Enormous leverage. If Trump was for workers more than Hillary, he'd have labor union support..

That is a silly thing to say. I already pointed out another possibility, ie the leadership sells out and betrays the interests of their workers.



.
You can't support your claim regarding "most unions" selling out their members. You should not say things that you cannot support.


You don't know that. You're guessing.
 
Flipper, that is a good monicker for trump. With atrophied front fins.

A few years ago the word 'flip-flopper' was satanic poison to be said about any candidate for cons, now it is their front runner's DNA. He doesn't stand on anything or for anything. And a great point earlier, cons have whined and gnashed teeth about never having a candidate that is 'conservative enough', that that is why they lost elections.

Well now you derps have nominated trump. So wrap your lips around the trump tailpipe and breath in his oxygen free exhaust gas. Embrace the horror that is of your creation.

So, are you in favor of the use of illegal labor, and H1-b visas and outsourcing to undercut US workers?


Red Herring. The thread is about Flipper and his tiny front fins. Are you denying trump is a flip-flopper?
 
Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?


Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

Are labor unions supporting Trump?

I doubt it.

Most unions have sold out their members interests to be tools of the Democratic Party long ago.

Why do you ask?

Simple. Labor unions represent leverage for workers. Enormous leverage. If Trump was for workers more than Hillary, he'd have labor union support..

That is a silly thing to say. I already pointed out another possibility, ie the leadership sells out and betrays the interests of their workers.



.
You can't support your claim regarding "most unions" selling out their members. You should not say things that you cannot support.


You don't know that. You're guessing.

OK. Now I'm bored with the obfuscation. And....what are you doing having a conversation with a sociopath? That's weird, isn't it?
 
...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.


1. He is going to deport the illegals.

2. Don't care about bombing or not bombing families of terrorist. Never did.

3. I never believe any one who claims they are going to reduce the deficit or the debt.

4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

5. Because the Clintons are vile people.

6. Because HIllary was a disaster.

7. Your spin is not true.
He's already disavowed the mass deportation. Flipper reversed himself in the past couple of days. So, no, he is not going to deport the illegals.

No, he didn't. He stated that he would not use that term.

Oh, he most certainly has flipped. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.





No one believes someone who says they are going to reduce the debt, but Trump is going to increase it by far more than Clinton. Independent analysis has confirmed this.

Sure it did. See, if you weren't so painfully partisan in every other word you said, you might have credibility.

I provided the evidence, dipshit. All you have is, "Nuh uh!" :lol:


As for the argument that Clinton is worse somehow, that is untrue when it comes to our economic future, and it is a false dichotomy regardless.

I was just responding to all your points. YOu asked a couple of questions about them and I answered.

No, you made the usual retard assumption that anyone who criticizes Trump and his Chumps is a supporter of Clinton. That is the very definition of a false dichotomy.
 
Even the Daily Caller saw it coming: 4 Issues Trump May Flip Flop On Next




Immigration – Trump won’t back away from building a wall on our Southern border, but there’s a good chance he will change other aspects of his immigration position in order to woo general election voters, including Hispanics. Take, for instance, his call for a mass deportation of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants residing in the U.S.

“They’re going to be deported,” Trump told NBC’s Lester Hold last week, echoing a position he first articulated last summer. “We have many illegals in the country, and we have to get them out.”

But as the general election draws nearer, don’t be surprised if Trump changes that position to deporting just illegal immigrants with criminal records.



Nailed it.
 
Donald Trump eases away from ‘mass deportations’ of illegal immigrants

The change in rhetoric from Mr. Trump resembled a pivot for the general election that would be expected from a more traditional candidate.

Pressed by Bloomberg Politics on whether he would pursue mass deportations, the real estate tycoon said he would not.

<snip>

However, since locking up the GOP nomination, he has softened his tone on his call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the U.S. in order to fight terrorism. Mr. Trump has said he would limit the travel restriction to Muslims from countries that are hot beds for terrorism.
 
That's explains much of it, but it does not explain it all. It does not explain how he captured the nomination from real Republicans and real conservatives.

Isn't it obvious how he did it?

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...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.
It is too late, the die has been cast....The dice has been thrown, they will have to rend shirts, pull out hair and gnash teeth....
 
For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?
Take your meds and get a nap.
You will never understand who snd why Trump has won the primary.
It's a huge waste of time trying to explain to posters like yourself.
Long winded rants like this one,just confirms, they are just trying to convince themselves.
Oh, I understand perfectly. I particularly understand Trump's Chumps.

So tell me. Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?
 
THe gop leadership believed him. Look how they mobilized against him to the point of being willing to LOSE.


WHat of the gloating you lefties are doing each time a Famous conservatives leaves or vows to not vote for him?

Are they fools to believe he is not an insider?
After running as the Reform Party candidate's nominee for President in 2000, The Donald changed his party affiliation to Democrat in 2001, which is only to be expected from a "very pro-choice" New York limousine liberal.

He and his family donated to all of Hillary's campaigns. He also funded the DNC Chairman's run for Governor of Virginia. He screeched for Bush's impeachment just like Cindy Sheehan. He said Bill was a great President, and Hillary would make a great President. He said the Clintons "are fine people". In 2013, he said Hillary was the best Secretary of State ever.

This is how we know he is not a Republican Establishment insider...


So you seem to be grasping that this is very serious change for the GOP.

Would you say that it true?
I would say the selection of a Democratic limousine liberal who is "very pro choice", who wants socialized medicine and an AWB, and is a close friend of the Clintons is a HUGE change for the GOP. Yes, absolutely.
No one has been a greater liar or con artist than Barack Obama. He is just more accomplished at it and he has a legacy to confirm it.if you define stupid as doing dumb things,than Obama and Hilary both earn gold,stars. Trump hasn't done anything yet but amass a billion dollar fortune and beat the pants off the republican establishment, setting records for turnout and minimal,spending. Th mdemocratic stalwarts here are following the party line of incessant attacks on trump. Not one single post extols,the virtues of Hilary's accomplishments. Ya all keep calling everyone who believes in America and fights your wars dumb and stupid and you will just drive more people to trump. I posted this earlier that this contest now reminds me of an old joke. I'm fat but your ugly, and I can lose weight. Trump can lose weight. The truly dumb people are the ones declaring the contest over before it has hardly begun and the fat lady has sung. And for those screaming divisiveness, nothing is more divisive than calling 40 per cent of your fellow Americans dumb and stupid.

Trump won't get the Hispanic vote
Trump won't get the black vote
or the womens vote
he will SPLIT the independent vote

NEVER in the history of this country has a candidate ever won a general election with those stats ... NEVER.

now who are you calling truly dumb again?


The woman's vote is a myth. It is split along ethnic lines.


And if Trump can run up the white vote, he will win.

There aren't enough white suprematist to fulfill your wet dream.
 
...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.
It is too late, the die has been cast....The dice has been thrown, they will have to rend shirts, pull out hair and gnash teeth....
In time, they will pretend they never knew him.
 

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