Now That Flipper Has Reversed Himself On All The Things You Loved Him For...

[g5000]

For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?

ALL THE PEOPLES SHOULD VOTE FOIR THE COMMUNIST KUNT HITLERY, THE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST!!!

So says one leftard....so say they all.......


It's all theater....nothing is going to change...nothing is going to get better because it's not intended to get better. Leftwing, rightwing, one bird and always the same ol' shit.

False dichotomy. Try again.

"He doesn't punch me in the face as hard."

 

[g5000]

Had obama or clinton flip flopped like Trump has, the right (T supporters) would be all over those two like white on rice.

All of them.

Clinton flips all the time, and the Left does get all over her on it.

The Clintons are masters of triangulation. But this topic is not about them. Take your red herring elsewhere.

 

[Siete]

...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.

 

[alang1216]

Of course Trump is a skilled con artist, he let the dupes and rubes sell themselves on his bill of goods, where in the end republicans have only themselves to blame.

He isn't a conman, he's a businessman who will do what needs to be done to close the deal. caveat emptor

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

G5000 SAID:

“…he captured the nomination from real Republicans and real conservatives.”

Because real republicans and real conservatives abdicated control of the GOP to the social right, libertarian loons, and TPM nitwits years ago.

Indeed, much of what makes up the GOP isn’t conservative or republican.

Trump is the consequence of that neglect, of allowing religious extremists, reactionaries, and clueless neophytes to gain control of the party.

 

[RDD_1210]

...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.

4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

.

Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?

Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

So you believe the man that outsources the production of his own products overseas is going to enact policies to bring those jobs back to this country?

 

[g5000]

THe gop leadership believed him. Look how they mobilized against him to the point of being willing to LOSE.


WHat of the gloating you lefties are doing each time a Famous conservatives leaves or vows to not vote for him?

Are they fools to believe he is not an insider?

After running as the Reform Party candidate's nominee for President in 2000, The Donald changed his party affiliation to Democrat in 2001, which is only to be expected from a "very pro-choice" New York limousine liberal.

He and his family donated to all of Hillary's campaigns. He also funded the DNC Chairman's run for Governor of Virginia. He screeched for Bush's impeachment just like Cindy Sheehan. He said Bill was a great President, and Hillary would make a great President. He said the Clintons "are fine people". In 2013, he said Hillary was the best Secretary of State ever.

This is how we know he is not a Republican Establishment insider...

 

[g5000]

I think the devotion to Trump is inviolable because his Chumps have written their own beliefs onto Trump, thinking those are his beliefs as well.

That is the sign of a true master huckster.

To repudiate Trump, therefore, is to repudiate themselves. The Chumps have so inextricably intertwined their own identities with Trump, they cannot separate themselves from him.

There are few things more difficult than admitting you've been conned. I've seen people go to extraordinary lengths to avoid doing so.

 

[chikenwing]

For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?

Take your meds and get a nap.
You will never understand who snd why Trump has won the primary.
It's a huge waste of time trying to explain to posters like yourself.
Long winded rants like this one,just confirms, they are just trying to convince themselves.

 

[Siete]

I think the devotion to Trump is inviolable because his Chumps have written their own beliefs onto Trump, thinking those are his beliefs as well.

That is the sign of a true master huckster.

To repudiate Trump, therefore, is to repudiate themselves. The Chumps have so inextricably intertwined their own identities with Trump, they cannot separate themselves from him.

There are few things more difficult than admitting you've been conned. I've seen people go to extraordinary lengths to avoid doing so.

I think it's deeper than that ...

they have his scrotum stuck in their throat.

 

[Dale Smith]

For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?

ALL THE PEOPLES SHOULD VOTE FOIR THE COMMUNIST KUNT HITLERY, THE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST!!!

So says one leftard....so say they all.......


It's all theater....nothing is going to change...nothing is going to get better because it's not intended to get better. Leftwing, rightwing, one bird and always the same ol' shit.

False dichotomy. Try again.

"He doesn't punch me in the face as hard."

That pretty much sums up the choices people have and have had for decades. If I was still a U.S citizen instead of an American, I would never vote for a leftard....even at gunpoint. There is nothing that makes my skin crawl more than having to share the same airspace with them...which is why the internet is such a cool deal. I can delve into the mindset of a leftard and be spared of actually having to be around them physically....win, win all the way around.

 

[g5000]

For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?

ALL THE PEOPLES SHOULD VOTE FOIR THE COMMUNIST KUNT HITLERY, THE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST!!!

So says one leftard....so say they all.......


It's all theater....nothing is going to change...nothing is going to get better because it's not intended to get better. Leftwing, rightwing, one bird and always the same ol' shit.

False dichotomy. Try again.

"He doesn't punch me in the face as hard."

That pretty much sums up the choices people have and have had for decades. If I was still a U.S citizen instead of an American, I would never vote for a leftard....even at gunpoint. There is nothing that makes my skin crawl more than having to share the same airspace with them...which is why the internet is such a cool deal. I can delve into the mindset of a leftard and be spared of actually having to be around them physically....win, win all the way around.

Keep voting for the "lesser of two evils" and keep getting what you always get.

 

[LoneLaugher]

...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.

4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

.

Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?

Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

Are labor unions supporting Trump?

 

[Correll]

...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.

1. He is going to deport the illegals.

2. Don't care about bombing or not bombing families of terrorist. Never did.

3. I never believe any one who claims they are going to reduce the deficit or the debt.

4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

5. Because the Clintons are vile people.

6. Because HIllary was a disaster.

7. Your spin is not true.

He's already disavowed the mass deportation. Flipper reversed himself in the past couple of days. So, no, he is not going to deport the illegals.

No, he didn't. He stated that he would not use that term.

No one believes someone who says they are going to reduce the debt, but Trump is going to increase it by far more than Clinton. Independent analysis has confirmed this.

Sure it did. See, if you weren't so painfully partisan in every other word you said, you might have credibility.

The same analysis confirms his economic plan is also going to cost 3.5 million jobs. He is not going to "increase jobs and wages for the Working and Middle Class Americans" (sic).

Oh, really? Is this from the same economists who have been explaining why the positive impact of Free Trade would be kicking in any time now, for the last 40 years?

Your reasons for loving him are invalid.

I really like how you do that.

To respond to what other people say, and then before they even get a chance to respond, to skip over back and forth or thinking, and not even declare yourself the winner, but to start operating as though your opinions are HARD FACTS and making judgements on other people's thoughts based on them.

You must have a WONDERFULLY POSITIVE SELF IMAGE.

As for the argument that Clinton is worse somehow, that is untrue when it comes to our economic future, and it is a false dichotomy regardless.

I was just responding to all your points. YOu asked a couple of questions about them and I answered.

Loving a horrible person because they aren't as horrible as someone else is a very stupid explanation. One of the most stupid explanations there is.

"He doesn't punch me in the face as hard."

1. YOu have done nothing to support your opinion that Trump is a horrible person.

2. I would not say that I "love" Trump. His stated platform is very close to what I consider in the best interests of this nation. THus, he has my support politically.

3. Though, full disclosure, the way he is driving so many lefties to the edge of sanity and beyond, "love" may be in the cards, eventually.

 

[Shrimpbox]

No one has been a greater liar or con artist than Barack Obama. He is just more accomplished at it and he has a legacy to confirm it.if you define stupid as doing dumb things,than Obama and Hilary both earn gold,stars. Trump hasn't done anything yet but amass a billion dollar fortune and beat the pants off the republican establishment, setting records for turnout and minimal,spending. Th mdemocratic stalwarts here are following the party line of incessant attacks on trump. Not one single post extols,the virtues of Hilary's accomplishments. Ya all keep calling everyone who believes in America and fights your wars dumb and stupid and you will just drive more people to trump. I posted this earlier that this contest now reminds me of an old joke. I'm fat but your ugly, and I can lose weight. Trump can lose weight. The truly dumb people are the ones declaring the contest over before it has hardly begun and the fat lady has sung. And for those screaming divisiveness, nothing is more divisive than calling 40 per cent of your fellow Americans dumb and stupid.

 

[Correll]

...why are you Chumps still supporting him?

He's not going to deport the wetbacks like he promised he would.

He's not going to bomb the families of terrorist like he promised he would.

He's going to increase the federal debt by another $10 trillion.

He's going to increase the minimum wage, after promising he wouldn't because he insisted wages are already too high.


I mean, everything you liked about this asshole has turned out to be fake. He's not going to follow through. So why do you still love him? He's not even elected yet, and he's already cheating on you! He lied to your face!

You Chumps are absolutely unyielding in your belief in everything Trump says. So why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary would make a great President?

Why don't you take Trump's word that "the Clintons are fine people"?

Why don't you take Trump's word that Hillary Clinton was the best Secretary of State ever?


Everything you believed about Trump has turned out to be completely false. Please explain why you still love him like an abused spouse who keeps going back for more punches to the face.

4. I don't care about the minimum wage. All his policies have been crafted to lead to increased jobs and wages for the Working and MIddle CLass Americans. Which is why I supported him from the First.

.

Which policies exactly do you like of his that you think will achieve this?

Deporting illegals and restricting new immigration (ie reducing labor pool) and bringing back manufacturing jobs, (ie increasing demand).

All crafted to change the status quo from desperate workers seeking jobs, to desperate employers seeking workers.


I've been in wage negotiations when I had the leverage and when I have not.

If you can give more workers leverage, you will change their lives for the better to an enormous degree.

So you believe the man that outsources the production of his own products overseas is going to enact policies to bring those jobs back to this country?

I believe that a man who's job in the past, to serve the interests of his shareholders, will have a different perspective and take different actions when his job is to serve the interests of his political supporters, ie the Working and Middle class workers.

But your little gotcha is noted. It was well delivered and right on target.


Now that we are past that, do you have anything to say relevant to the proposed policy?

Have you ever had the chance to see the difference that leverage can make in employer/employee relations?

Would you like to give that power to the workers?

 

[Correll]

THe gop leadership believed him. Look how they mobilized against him to the point of being willing to LOSE.


WHat of the gloating you lefties are doing each time a Famous conservatives leaves or vows to not vote for him?

Are they fools to believe he is not an insider?

After running as the Reform Party candidate's nominee for President in 2000, The Donald changed his party affiliation to Democrat in 2001, which is only to be expected from a "very pro-choice" New York limousine liberal.

He and his family donated to all of Hillary's campaigns. He also funded the DNC Chairman's run for Governor of Virginia. He screeched for Bush's impeachment just like Cindy Sheehan. He said Bill was a great President, and Hillary would make a great President. He said the Clintons "are fine people". In 2013, he said Hillary was the best Secretary of State ever.

This is how we know he is not a Republican Establishment insider...

So you seem to be grasping that this is very serious change for the GOP.

Would you say that it true?

 

[g5000]

For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?

ALL THE PEOPLES SHOULD VOTE FOIR THE COMMUNIST KUNT HITLERY, THE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST!!!

So says one leftard....so say they all.......


It's all theater....nothing is going to change...nothing is going to get better because it's not intended to get better. Leftwing, rightwing, one bird and always the same ol' shit.

False dichotomy. Try again.

"He doesn't punch me in the face as hard."

That pretty much sums up the choices people have and have had for decades. If I was still a U.S citizen instead of an American, I would never vote for a leftard....even at gunpoint. There is nothing that makes my skin crawl more than having to share the same airspace with them...which is why the internet is such a cool deal. I can delve into the mindset of a leftard and be spared of actually having to be around them physically....win, win all the way around.

I plan on writing in a name. When you vote for a lesser EVIL, you are still voting for EVIL.

Worse, you are communicating to that EVIL "you are doing something right". That is the LAST thing you should be communicating to EVIL.

Don't be an idiot who votes for a lesser EVIL. Otherwise, we will still keep getting Clintons and Bushes and Obamas and Trumps.

Moron.

 

[g5000]

THe gop leadership believed him. Look how they mobilized against him to the point of being willing to LOSE.


WHat of the gloating you lefties are doing each time a Famous conservatives leaves or vows to not vote for him?

Are they fools to believe he is not an insider?

After running as the Reform Party candidate's nominee for President in 2000, The Donald changed his party affiliation to Democrat in 2001, which is only to be expected from a "very pro-choice" New York limousine liberal.

He and his family donated to all of Hillary's campaigns. He also funded the DNC Chairman's run for Governor of Virginia. He screeched for Bush's impeachment just like Cindy Sheehan. He said Bill was a great President, and Hillary would make a great President. He said the Clintons "are fine people". In 2013, he said Hillary was the best Secretary of State ever.

This is how we know he is not a Republican Establishment insider...

So you seem to be grasping that this is very serious change for the GOP.

Would you say that it true?

I would say the selection of a Democratic limousine liberal who is "very pro choice", who wants socialized medicine and an AWB, and is a close friend of the Clintons is a HUGE change for the GOP. Yes, absolutely.

 

[Dale Smith]

For eight years now, conservatives have claimed the reason they lost the 2008 and 2012 elections is because we nominated moderates instead of conservatives. This has been their operating premise for quite some time now.

Finally, this year we had several – SEVERAL – conservative candidates. So how was Donald Trump able to steal the nomination away from them?

Donald Trump has made his fortune by exploiting human weakness. His temples are a string of casinos which prey on hordes of the middle class and poor.

And then there is his reality television empire. As with all reality TV programs, Donald Trump’s shows are deliberately designed to draw out the worst behaviors in people. Greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and betrayal.

Donald Trump is not a conservative. He wasn’t even a Republican until last year. Before he announced himself, whenever he was asked a policy question, he invariably gave the far Left answer.

When asked about abortion, he was “very pro-choice” right up to the ninth month of pregnancy. He harmonized with Cindy Sheehan in wanting George Bush impeached for invading Iraq. He wanted the United States to cut and run from Iraq, a policy which conservatives stridently insist led to the rise of ISIS. He supports an Assault Weapons Ban. He supports single payer healthcare. He supports taxing the wealthy more. He said Bill Clinton was a great President, and that Hillary Clinton would make a great President. He said Hillary Clinton was the greatest Secretary of State ever, one year after Benghazi. His entire family donated to Hillary’s Senate and Presidential campaigns. He financed the Democratic National Committee chairman’s gubernatorial campaign in Virginia. A DNC chairman is as Democratic Establishment insider as it gets. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons.

The Republican Party had a whole host of conservative candidates vying for the nomination. And then one day, the Earth opened up and vomited out Donald Trump, claiming to be a Republican.

How did this man succeed?

Decades ago, the Republican Party began what has become known as “the Southern Strategy”. This was a program designed to draw the “negrophobe whites” out of the Democratic Party into the Republican Party, and thus transform the conservative Democratic South into the conservative Republican South.

The Republican Party has carefully and deliberately nurtured and fed the bigoted and racist rats who were lured out of the Democratic village and into the Republican village. And now it is time to pay the pied piper, and his name is Donald Trump.

This purveyor of human fears and failings zeroed in on the worst in the Republican Party and made the election about Mexicans and Muslims.

Policy discussions about abortion, gun rights, states rights, taxes, federal deficits, and all the core conservative principles went right out the window.

What were we talking about before Trump came along?

We were pretty excited about Dr. Ben Carson, who had bitch-slapped Barack Obama with the mighty hand of God at the National Prayer Breakfast.

We were thrilled over Governor Scott Walker, who had won three election victories in the face of a full frontal liberal assault!

We were talking about Ted Cruz, the immovable object in the path of the irresistible force of federal deficit spending.

We were hailing John Kasich, the only candidate on either slate who has not only balanced the federal budget, but gave us a surplus. And he has done the same as the governor of a key battleground state.

Donald Trump brags – actually BRAGS – that he turned us away from those conversations and made the contest about Mexicans and Muslims.

Is every Trump supporter a racist? You can always find exceptions who prove the rule in any political camp, but if you take a core sample of the Trump base, you will always find shreds of the old Confederate flag in their substance.

These are a positively schizophrenic people. They complain we didn’t nominate a conservative and that is why we lost, and yet they are supporting a limousine liberal. They say they wave and wear the Confederate flag because they are proud of their heritage, and then they go to great lengths to prove those old Confederates were Democrats who were racists and slave owners. This is their heritage, and they are proud of it!?!

They had a golden opportunity to select a true conservative as the Republican nominee, and instead chose a fearmongering huckster who has long vouchsafed liberal causes.

What will be their excuse for 2016?

ALL THE PEOPLES SHOULD VOTE FOIR THE COMMUNIST KUNT HITLERY, THE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST!!!

So says one leftard....so say they all.......


It's all theater....nothing is going to change...nothing is going to get better because it's not intended to get better. Leftwing, rightwing, one bird and always the same ol' shit.

False dichotomy. Try again.

"He doesn't punch me in the face as hard."

That pretty much sums up the choices people have and have had for decades. If I was still a U.S citizen instead of an American, I would never vote for a leftard....even at gunpoint. There is nothing that makes my skin crawl more than having to share the same airspace with them...which is why the internet is such a cool deal. I can delve into the mindset of a leftard and be spared of actually having to be around them physically....win, win all the way around.

Keep voting for the "lesser of two evils" and keep getting what you always get.

Your vote doesn't mean shit....Burger King or McDonalds, you might want Arbys or KFC but your globalist masters are going to feed you a hamburger regardless. No paper trail, the Diebold machines have software that can be backdoored and change the results....it's a fucking J-O-K-E but they need to give the serfs something to do and make them feel like they have some kind of power when they don't because like George Carlin says "You think you have a choice....you don't". I find it hilarious that leftards shunned Hitlery 8 years ago for an inexperienced congressman that never accomplished anything other than the fact that he was half black but fast forward 8 years later? These same leftards are touting the greatness of the Hildebeast....just can't make this shit up. LOL!

Carlin sums up my feelings about voting perfectly......