Note to Gun-Control Liberals: You Can’t Handle the Truth

[The Rabbi]

I am a hard nosed realist. Why is it some of you are covering for the abusive use of guns? Guns are NOT protecting us, they are harming us. And that is a fact, that is real. You people in the NRA want to live in a dreamland want to pretend guns are going to solve everything? It just isn't real, it's magic realism, Gun proponents are living in never never land.

Tell that to the criminals who use guns to stick up, intimidate, kill and injure innocent people every day. When they disarm, I'll consider it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Note to Gun-Control Liberals: You Can’t Handle the Truth"

Note to rightwing liars: you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face.

 

[The Rabbi]

"Note to Gun-Control Liberals: You Can’t Handle the Truth"

Note to rightwing liars: you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face.

That fails as the objective-correlative fallacy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"This backdoor gun control would be accomplished by forcing high volume gun dealers to obtain a license to sell guns from the ATF - one of the requirements being to perform background checks on purchasers."

AFAIK, this is already a requirement for all gun dealers across all states. Something is not adding up.

They plan to use an EO to redefine "dealer" as anyone who sells 50 guns or more per year.
Note that this runs contrary to the legislative definition found in federal law.

They only way they can know who does this is universal registration.

Everything leads back to universal registration.

No one wonders why.

I am against all the Libtard gun grabbers but seriously. Why would any typical person be selling more than 50 guns a year?

This is unsurprisingly ignorant and wrong – there are no 'gun grabbers.'

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No one is advocating 'banning' guns, nor 'confiscating' guns.

These are just more ridiculous lies from the right.

 

[2aguy]

Note to Gun-Control Liberals: You Can’t Handle the Truth

1900 feet across the the river from Detroit which averages 1 murder a day is Windsor Ontario, which recently went 26 months without a homicide.

The truth is that Windsor isn't any more God fearing, or lacks its fair share of those mentally ill, as compared to its American counterpart - but it does have strict gun controls that make private handguns and automatic weapons virtually nonexistant.

Soooooo, they can't get guns across a river if they want them.....wow...you are a genius.........does Windsor have the economic social problems created by our democrats and the fatherless boys created by those policies...?

 

[The Rabbi]

"This backdoor gun control would be accomplished by forcing high volume gun dealers to obtain a license to sell guns from the ATF - one of the requirements being to perform background checks on purchasers."

AFAIK, this is already a requirement for all gun dealers across all states. Something is not adding up.

They plan to use an EO to redefine "dealer" as anyone who sells 50 guns or more per year.
Note that this runs contrary to the legislative definition found in federal law.

They only way they can know who does this is universal registration.

Everything leads back to universal registration.

No one wonders why.

I am against all the Libtard gun grabbers but seriously. Why would any typical person be selling more than 50 guns a year?

This is unsurprisingly ignorant and wrong – there are no 'gun grabbers.'

 

[2aguy]

Note to Gun-Control Liberals: You Can’t Handle the Truth

1900 feet across the the river from Detroit which averages 1 murder a day is Windsor Ontario, which recently went 26 months without a homicide.

The truth is that Windsor isn't any more God fearing, or lacks its fair share of those mentally ill, as compared to its American counterpart - but it does have strict gun controls that make private handguns and automatic weapons virtually nonexistant.

Yeah...you are wrong of course.....they can get guns easily and their gun control does nothing to stop their criminals from getting guns easily, they just don't have the same social pathologies that our inner cities do......to the extremes that the democrats here have created....

Canada gangs get guns easily

Guns too easy for Ottawa gangs to get, police say

Highway for smugglers


O'Brien said the latest statistics from 2013 show that 60 per cent of all guns used in Ontario crimes come from the U.S., usually southern states with lax gun laws.

He said criminal groups then transport the guns to New York, where the contraband is smuggled across the border into Canada.


Retired Canada Border Services Agency investigator Brent Lafave calls the St. Lawrence River a highway for smugglers. (CBC)



Retired Canada Border Services Agency investigator Brent Lafave, who worked for the CBSA in Cornwall for 32 years, describes the St. Lawrence River as a highway for smugglers when the sun sets.



"They've got high-speed Ski-Doos, trailers, everything's blacked out," he said.

"In the summertime, it's boats. The boats are all matte black and they're very difficult to pick up. The boat drivers will be all in matte black clothing. Sometimes they'll have night observation devices. These boats are fast, they're purpose-built for smuggling."

Different ways to conceal


Once the guns make it into Ottawa, police said the weapons are well-hidden from authorities in homes and moved around the city concealed in vehicles.

Ottawa police say low-quality, semi-automatic handguns like this one are the new "weapon of choice" on city streets. (CBC)



"They say necessity is the mother of invention," said Solomon Friedman, a lawyer who represents gang members, including a man involved in the Tanger outlet mall shooting on Boxing Day.

"When you have a firearm that sells for $400 in the United States and $4,000 on the streets of Ottawa, people get pretty creative and they (hide) them in all sorts of auto parts."



Friedman said sometimes gang members custom-build panels in vehicles and use sophisticated electronic traps to conceal weapons.

He said the devices can even involve lowering a window and putting the heat to a certain setting to pop open the trap and reveal the hidden contraband inside.

You anti gun extremists are so stupid.........criminals in all countries get guns easily.....

 

[2aguy]

Note to Gun-Control Liberals: You Can’t Handle the Truth

1900 feet across the the river from Detroit which averages 1 murder a day is Windsor Ontario, which recently went 26 months without a homicide.

The truth is that Windsor isn't any more God fearing, or lacks its fair share of those mentally ill, as compared to its American counterpart - but it does have strict gun controls that make private handguns and automatic weapons virtually nonexistant.

Sadly.......gun crime is increasing in those gun controlled countries..their criminals are learning the truth...that guns allow them to kill their enemies......so the upward gun crime levels in Australia and Europe are now showing up in Canada...

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.


But....but.....you said that getting guns across a river...that has a bridge...is just too hard for the criminals in Canada....guess you were wrong...again...on all counts...

 

[M14 Shooter]

I am a hard nosed realist. Why is it some of you are covering for the abusive use of guns? Guns are NOT protecting us, they are harming us. And that is a fact, that is real. You people in the NRA want to live in a dreamland want to pretend guns are going to solve everything? It just isn't real, it's magic realism, Gun proponents are living in never never land.

Mary, Mary...
If all the "problems" in the US were quantified to the same level as the % of guns used to commit murder, you'd have a hard time finding anyone who would think we have any problems.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No one is advocating 'banning' guns, nor 'confiscating' guns.

Thsis a lie; The Obama and many others openly seek to ban rifles, shotguns ans handguns.

 

[Clementine]

Liberals say they don't want to ban guns, then go on to say that they are bad and the cause of our problems. It's just amazing that they don't admit that criminals are the problem, not the vast majority of gun owners, whom they call gun nuts. Anyone who supports the 2nd amendment, or the constitution for that matter, is deemed radical by the left these days.

Virtually every situation is twisted to fit their narrative. While the worst gun violence in America takes place in certain cities, it's largely ignored because many of those cities are run by Dems and ones, like Chicago, already have the strictest gun laws in the country.

Whether the left makes a big deal out of guns depends on whose hands they are in. While overlooking the criminals, particularly minority ones, the left focuses on the NRA and others who appreciate the right to own firearms. Makes no sense to the logical person because it's like blaming auto companies for drunk driving.

The liberal media has become quite predictable in the way they cover, or not cover, violence. Not all murders are deemed newsworthy and the blame doesn't always go where it belongs. Rather than look at the people committing murder and assaults, the left blames their weapon of choice and pretend that the people would be peaceful if not for the invention of guns.

 

[FA_Q2]

I am a hard nosed realist. Why is it some of you are covering for the abusive use of guns? Guns are NOT protecting us, they are harming us. And that is a fact, that is real. You people in the NRA want to live in a dreamland want to pretend guns are going to solve everything? It just isn't real, it's magic realism, Gun proponents are living in never never land.

If you were a realist then you would look at the data that shows gun bans do nothing to protect people.

 

[FA_Q2]

No one is advocating 'banning' guns, nor 'confiscating' guns.

These are just more ridiculous lies from the right.

So that video directly below your post does not actually exist?

 

[Kosh]

The far left wants to repeal the second amendment:

Sign the petition: Repeal the Second Amendment Now

 

[Politico]

"This backdoor gun control would be accomplished by forcing high volume gun dealers to obtain a license to sell guns from the ATF - one of the requirements being to perform background checks on purchasers."

AFAIK, this is already a requirement for all gun dealers across all states. Something is not adding up.

They plan to use an EO to redefine "dealer" as anyone who sells 50 guns or more per year.
Note that this runs contrary to the legislative definition found in federal law.

They only way they can know who does this is universal registration.

Everything leads back to universal registration.

No one wonders why.

I am against all the Libtard gun grabbers but seriously. Why would any typical person be selling more than 50 guns a year?

All kinds of reasons. I know plenty of people who do. One guy is a cancer survivor who likes guns and this is his hobby.

Yeah if they do every year they are a dealer.

 

[The Rabbi]

"This backdoor gun control would be accomplished by forcing high volume gun dealers to obtain a license to sell guns from the ATF - one of the requirements being to perform background checks on purchasers."

AFAIK, this is already a requirement for all gun dealers across all states. Something is not adding up.

They plan to use an EO to redefine "dealer" as anyone who sells 50 guns or more per year.
Note that this runs contrary to the legislative definition found in federal law.

They only way they can know who does this is universal registration.

Everything leads back to universal registration.

No one wonders why.

I am against all the Libtard gun grabbers but seriously. Why would any typical person be selling more than 50 guns a year?

All kinds of reasons. I know plenty of people who do. One guy is a cancer survivor who likes guns and this is his hobby.

Yeah if they do every year they are a dealer.

Nope, that is wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

James Madison: “(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation … (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

Thomas Jefferson: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”

George Mason, author of the Virginia Bill of Rights, which inspired our Constitution’s Bill of Rights, said, “To disarm the people — that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

To those moron who say they meant muskets, well today's armed forces have modern weapons and so shall we the civilians...

They have a pussy version for you liberals...

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Ronald Reagan banned machine guns in 1986.

Which guns on the current 'ban' list were banned by liberals?

But that's not what he did. You excel at only telling half the truth.

Lopez says Reagan banned machine guns, backed assualt weapons ban

He backed one, but never signed an assault weapons ban into law during his presidency.

He also did not ban machineguns.

He banned the buying, selling, possessing of machineguns made after 1986.

 

[The Rabbi]

James Madison: “(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation … (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

Thomas Jefferson: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”

George Mason, author of the Virginia Bill of Rights, which inspired our Constitution’s Bill of Rights, said, “To disarm the people — that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

To those moron who say they meant muskets, well today's armed forces have modern weapons and so shall we the civilians...

They have a pussy version for you liberals...

hello kitty ar 15 - Google Search

...

Ronald Reagan banned machine guns in 1986.

Which guns on the current 'ban' list were banned by liberals?

But that's not what he did. You excel at only telling half the truth.

Lopez says Reagan banned machine guns, backed assualt weapons ban

He backed one, but never signed an assault weapons ban into law during his presidency.

He also did not ban machineguns.

He banned the buying, selling, possessing of machineguns made after 1986.

Thats also wrong.
I am amazed at people spouting off about crap they know nothing about.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I am a hard nosed realist. Why is it some of you are covering for the abusive use of guns? Guns are NOT protecting us, they are harming us. And that is a fact, that is real. You people in the NRA want to live in a dreamland want to pretend guns are going to solve everything? It just isn't real, it's magic realism, Gun proponents are living in never never land.

If you were a realist then you would look at the data that shows gun bans do nothing to protect people.

So if automatic weapons were as easy to purchase as a quart of milk, all across America, that would what?

Make things better?