No Toilet, No Mosque

[GLASNOST]

...... I hold discussions with honest people, not with those who make ridiculous conclusion based upon 'their neighbours in the privileged enclaves' of society.

Ironically, you are full of shit.

... also includes slanderous remarks with no (none what-so-ever) motivated support for your view.

 

[Esmeralda]

There is always a solution

Y-e-a-h ....... except that Arabs don't use toilet paper or the sitting commode. I've travelled a lot through the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. Squat, a porcelain slit in the floor, a water spigot, a bucket, and the fingers of one's left hand. That's all there is.

That is the crux of the issue , whatever structures or habits that are in place at those makeshift Mosques speak to unsanitary conditions that may place the health, safety and welfare of the citizenry in jeopardy according to the local authorities

They wash their feet before prayer. This has nothing to do with toilets. A real mosque will have a tap outside for this. If it doesn't, people have to wash their feet in the sink. So?

 

[GLASNOST]

That is the crux of the issue , whatever structures or habits that are in place at those makeshift Mosques speak to unsanitary conditions that may place the health, safety and welfare of the citizenry in jeopardy according to the local authorities

Precisely.

 

[Alex.]

There is always a solution

Y-e-a-h ....... except that Arabs don't use toilet paper or the sitting commode. I've travelled a lot through the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. Squat, a porcelain slit in the floor, a water spigot, a bucket, and the fingers of one's left hand. That's all there is.

That is the crux of the issue , whatever structures or habits that are in place at those makeshift Mosques speak to unsanitary conditions that may place the health, safety and welfare of the citizenry in jeopardy according to the local authorities

They wash their feet before prayer. This has nothing to do with toilets. A real mosque will have a tap outside for this. If it doesn't, people have to wash their feet in the sink. So?

I am aware of that, but in public restrooms is disgusting and unsanitary.

 

[GLASNOST]

Esmeralda, would you care to explain to the boys and girls what this photo signifies?

For those who don't know, I will tell you. I have travelled overland from Morrocco to Pakistan (and beyond) where this sight is very common. This is a photo of a "western" toilette where Arabs (Somalis, etc.) are not accustomed to making their poo-poo "our way". Instead they use "our" toilet in "their" way ..... squatting ('perching' one might call it) over a hole.

 

[Esmeralda]

Esmeralda, would you care to explain to the boys and girls what this photo signifies?

For those who don't know, I will tell you. I have travelled overland from Morrocco to Pakistan (and beyond) where this sight is very common. This is a photo of a "western" toilette where Arabs (Somalis, etc.) are not accustomed to making their poo-poo "our way". Instead they use "our" toilet in "their" way ..... squatting ('perching' one might call it) over a hole.

So, if they don't know how to use this type of toilet, then how do you expect them to use it properly? Duh. You are picking on people for having different cultural norms. This is bigotry.

 

[GLASNOST]

Esmeralda, would you care to explain to the boys and girls what this photo signifies?

For those who don't know, I will tell you. I have travelled overland from Morrocco to Pakistan (and beyond) where this sight is very common. This is a photo of a "western" toilette where Arabs (Somalis, etc.) are not accustomed to making their poo-poo "our way". Instead they use "our" toilet in "their" way ..... squatting ('perching' one might call it) over a hole.

So, if they don't know how to use this type of toilet, then how do you expect them to use it properly? Duh. You are picking on people for having different cultural norms. This is bigotry.

So you finally confess that Arabs do not use the same type of toilettes (cultural norms, you call it) as we do. Was that so difficult to admit? And who are you calling a 'bigot'? Stating fact is .... stating fact. There need be no bigotry in that. My photo proves what I said from the start. That makes me a non-bigot and you a pro-liar for denying it.

 

[Esmeralda]

Esmeralda, would you care to explain to the boys and girls what this photo signifies?

For those who don't know, I will tell you. I have travelled overland from Morrocco to Pakistan (and beyond) where this sight is very common. This is a photo of a "western" toilette where Arabs (Somalis, etc.) are not accustomed to making their poo-poo "our way". Instead they use "our" toilet in "their" way ..... squatting ('perching' one might call it) over a hole.

So, if they don't know how to use this type of toilet, then how do you expect them to use it properly? Duh. You are picking on people for having different cultural norms. This is bigotry.

So you finally confess that Arabs do not use the same type of toilettes (cultural norms, you call it) as we do. Was that so difficult to admit? And who are you calling a 'bigot'? Stating fact is .... stating fact. There need be no bigotry in that. My photo proves what I said from the start. That makes me a non-bigot and you a pro-liar for denying it.

I never said they didn't have different types of toilets. Never said it, never implied it. I thought you knew they had different types of toilets. Didn't think that was the issue.

I never lied about anything. I assumed you were talking about the squatting toilets as you, supposedly, traveled around in those countries so much. And, btw, Indonesia is not an Arab country. These type of toilets are all over the world. When I as on the French Riviera in 1976, that was the type of toilet they had there. They have them in Turkey and in Asia. It is not only an Arab thing.

 

[Esmeralda]

This is what is used around half the world. You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims. Go to China, go to Asia. You fool.

 

[Meathead]

"Hundreds of Muslims offered Friday prayers near Rome's Colosseum to protest at the closure of mosques and other places of worship in Italy.

The prayer demonstration was staged over what they see as unfair restrictions on freedom to practise their faith in the country, according to organisers who called the protest following the recent closure of five makeshift mosques on administrative grounds.

Many Italian Muslims suspect local authorities are responding to a climate of mistrust caused by recent attacks in Europe by closing down the places of worship on the grounds of easily resolved problems, such as the number of toilets on a particular premises."

Muslims stage protest prayers near Rome's Colosseum

What a bunch of crap. The worshipers should assimilate and obey the law rather than attempt to have the law bend to their unhygienic will.

A mosque is a toilet so the ruling does not apply.

 

[GLASNOST]

...... You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims.

I've had enough of your bull shit, your back-peddling, your lying, and now (twice) ...... your absurd conclusions. Don't bother me any more.

 

[Esmeralda]

...... You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims.

I've had enough of your bull shit, your back-peddling, your lying, and now (twice) ...... your absurd conclusions. Don't bother me any more.

I didn't back peddle and I didn't lie, you stupid fucking idiot. If you have traveled so much as you say, you would know about squat toilets. I assumed that is what you were talking about because I have not only traveled but lived in countries where they are common. I was in a Turkish home once, a newly built home with all the ammenities, on the Agean Sea, a resort, and they had a squat toilet because that is what they preferred. A totally modern home, a very, very nice home. With upper class people living there.

You are a liar and full of shit. I suspect you haven't 'traveled' to all these places you mentioned: who would when you obiviously hate the places and the people. I suspect you are in the military, probably the navy, and have spent a day or two in these countries, and don't actually know anything about the whole country, the real country. You are probably very old as well, and went many years ago when things were less modern than nowadays. Or you are very young and very bigoted and don't have a wide world view at all. You fucking service people think you've traveled the world when, in fact, you've seen very little of it. Go to Asia. Go to China and India. You will find these kind of toilets there too. You are the one who is lying and pathetic. People like you go to other parts of the world and look down on them because it isn't like at home. Fool. Ugly American. Get a life.

 

[GLASNOST]

* you stupid fucking idiot.
* You are a liar and full of shit.
* I suspect you haven't 'traveled' to all these places you mentioned:
* you obiviously hate the places and the people.
* I suspect you are in the military, probably the navy
* have spent a day or two in these countries
* don't actually know anything about the whole country, the real country.
* don't have a wide world view at all.
* You fucking service people
* Go to Asia.
* Go to China and India.
* You are the one who is lying and pathetic.
* People like you go to other parts of the world and look down on them
* Fool.
* Ugly American.

Thank you for sharing your utter lack of knowledge. Now piss off.

 

[Alex.]

...... You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims.

I've had enough of your bull shit, your back-peddling, your lying, and now (twice) ...... your absurd conclusions. Don't bother me any more.

I didn't back peddle and I didn't lie, you stupid fucking idiot. If you have traveled so much as you say, you would know about squat toilets. I assumed that is what you were talking about because I have not only traveled but lived in countries where they are common. I was in a Turkish home once, a newly built home with all the ammenities, on the Agean Sea, a resort, and they had a squat toilet because that is what they preferred. A totally modern home, a very, very nice home. With upper class people living there.

You are a liar and full of shit. I suspect you haven't 'traveled' to all these places you mentioned: who would when you obiviously hate the places and the people. I suspect you are in the military, probably the navy, and have spent a day or two in these countries, and don't actually know anything about the whole country, the real country. You are probably very old as well, and went many years ago when things were less modern than nowadays. Or you are very young and very bigoted and don't have a wide world view at all. You fucking service people think you've traveled the world when, in fact, you've seen very little of it. Go to Asia. Go to China and India. You will find these kind of toilets there too. You are the one who is lying and pathetic. People like you go to other parts of the world and look down on them because it isn't like at home. Fool. Ugly American. Get a life.

Once again Esmeralda is showing of the the class and elegance her haughty, self absorbed, sanctimonious, narcissistic self that she can muster. She reminds me of an art teacher I once had.


The fact remains:

In order to have the Mosque the bathrooms and other construction must comply with the law.







....kindly continue with your meltdown

 

[Esmeralda]

...... You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims.

I've had enough of your bull shit, your back-peddling, your lying, and now (twice) ...... your absurd conclusions. Don't bother me any more.

I didn't back peddle and I didn't lie, you stupid fucking idiot. If you have traveled so much as you say, you would know about squat toilets. I assumed that is what you were talking about because I have not only traveled but lived in countries where they are common. I was in a Turkish home once, a newly built home with all the ammenities, on the Agean Sea, a resort, and they had a squat toilet because that is what they preferred. A totally modern home, a very, very nice home. With upper class people living there.

You are a liar and full of shit. I suspect you haven't 'traveled' to all these places you mentioned: who would when you obiviously hate the places and the people. I suspect you are in the military, probably the navy, and have spent a day or two in these countries, and don't actually know anything about the whole country, the real country. You are probably very old as well, and went many years ago when things were less modern than nowadays. Or you are very young and very bigoted and don't have a wide world view at all. You fucking service people think you've traveled the world when, in fact, you've seen very little of it. Go to Asia. Go to China and India. You will find these kind of toilets there too. You are the one who is lying and pathetic. People like you go to other parts of the world and look down on them because it isn't like at home. Fool. Ugly American. Get a life.

Once again Esmeralda is showing of the the class and elegance her haughty, self absorbed, sanctimonious, narcissistic self that she can muster. She reminds me of an art teacher I once had.


The fact remains:

In order to have the Mosque the bathrooms and other construction must comply with the law.







....kindly continue with your meltdown

I have no problem with that. I agree and think there should be no construction anywhere on earth that doesn't comply with the local laws and regulations. I don't know who you think is washing their feet in public toilets because they would be washing their feet before prayer, which is in the mosque, the prayer. It is simple. I've seen countless mosques and they have a faucet and drain outside the mosque to wash your feet before going in to pray. A more complete mosque has a nice fountain in the courtyard to do that. But small mosques usually have a faucet. As far as toilets, they need to comply with local regulations. I agree.

The suggestion was, however, that the city government of Rome was making rules to prevent the Muslims from worshipping. I don't know. I have no idea. They have every right, IMO, to require that any building comply with city regulations.

 

[Pogo]

...... You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims.

I've had enough of your bull shit, your back-peddling, your lying, and now (twice) ...... your absurd conclusions. Don't bother me any more.

I didn't back peddle and I didn't lie, you stupid fucking idiot. If you have traveled so much as you say, you would know about squat toilets. I assumed that is what you were talking about because I have not only traveled but lived in countries where they are common. I was in a Turkish home once, a newly built home with all the ammenities, on the Agean Sea, a resort, and they had a squat toilet because that is what they preferred. A totally modern home, a very, very nice home. With upper class people living there.

You are a liar and full of shit. I suspect you haven't 'traveled' to all these places you mentioned: who would when you obiviously hate the places and the people. I suspect you are in the military, probably the navy, and have spent a day or two in these countries, and don't actually know anything about the whole country, the real country. You are probably very old as well, and went many years ago when things were less modern than nowadays. Or you are very young and very bigoted and don't have a wide world view at all. You fucking service people think you've traveled the world when, in fact, you've seen very little of it. Go to Asia. Go to China and India. You will find these kind of toilets there too. You are the one who is lying and pathetic. People like you go to other parts of the world and look down on them because it isn't like at home. Fool. Ugly American. Get a life.

I knew he wuz in for a world of hurt when he challenged you. Sorry I missed his little hissyfit.

Esmie's right, and my experience confirms. Toilets in much of the world are simply much lower than the "western" type -- a squat rather than a sit, which is a healthier and more efficient way to evacuate anyway because of how it arranges the lower intestine.

 

[Pogo]

....kindly continue with your meltdown

Interesting perspective from a guy who literally has a period every time he posts

 

[Alex.]

...... You just want to hate Arabs and Muslims.

I've had enough of your bull shit, your back-peddling, your lying, and now (twice) ...... your absurd conclusions. Don't bother me any more.

I didn't back peddle and I didn't lie, you stupid fucking idiot. If you have traveled so much as you say, you would know about squat toilets. I assumed that is what you were talking about because I have not only traveled but lived in countries where they are common. I was in a Turkish home once, a newly built home with all the ammenities, on the Agean Sea, a resort, and they had a squat toilet because that is what they preferred. A totally modern home, a very, very nice home. With upper class people living there.

You are a liar and full of shit. I suspect you haven't 'traveled' to all these places you mentioned: who would when you obiviously hate the places and the people. I suspect you are in the military, probably the navy, and have spent a day or two in these countries, and don't actually know anything about the whole country, the real country. You are probably very old as well, and went many years ago when things were less modern than nowadays. Or you are very young and very bigoted and don't have a wide world view at all. You fucking service people think you've traveled the world when, in fact, you've seen very little of it. Go to Asia. Go to China and India. You will find these kind of toilets there too. You are the one who is lying and pathetic. People like you go to other parts of the world and look down on them because it isn't like at home. Fool. Ugly American. Get a life.

Once again Esmeralda is showing of the the class and elegance her haughty, self absorbed, sanctimonious, narcissistic self that she can muster. She reminds me of an art teacher I once had.


The fact remains:

In order to have the Mosque the bathrooms and other construction must comply with the law.







....kindly continue with your meltdown

I have no problem with that. I agree and think there should be no construction anywhere on earth that doesn't comply with the local laws and regulations. I don't know who you think is washing their feet in public toilets because they would be washing their feet before prayer, which is in the mosque, the prayer. It is simple. I've seen countless mosques and they have a faucet and drain outside the mosque to wash your feet before going in to pray. A more complete mosque has a nice fountain in the courtyard to do that. But small mosques usually have a faucet. As far as toilets, they need to comply with local regulations. I agree.

The suggestion was, however, that the city government of Rome was making rules to prevent the Muslims from worshipping. I don't know. I have no idea. They have every right, IMO, to require that any building comply with city regulations.

By way of example:

Mohammad Faisal, a business student who works 20 hours a week in the convenience store, told Daily Mail Australia that Dhuhr and Asr - two of the five daily prayers required by his religion - fall during his 10am to 4pm shift at the shop.

The 26-year-old Pakistan native, who is studying in Australia to fulfill his late mother's dream, said earlier this week he went as usual to the first floor men's room to do his pre-prayer ablutions prior to Dhuhr, the prayer just before midday which currently falls at 11.52am.

He said that, as was the custom, he washed his hands, his mouth, his head and his neck, as well as his arms, and then placed his feet one at a time into one of the men's rooms' two sinks.


Read more: It is about being respectful to my religion Storm of controversy over sign banning Muslim staff from washing their feet in city office public toilet before their daily prayers | Daily Mail Online
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It is about being respectful to my religion Storm of controversy over sign banning Muslim staff from washing their feet in city office public toilet before their daily prayers | Daily Mail Online

It disgusting and unsanitary.

 

[Alex.]

....kindly continue with your meltdown

Interesting perspective from a guy who literally has a period every time he posts

...and you want to be my tampon...

....get lost weirdo.

 

[Pogo]

....kindly continue with your meltdown

Interesting perspective from a guy who literally has a period every time he posts

...and you want to be my tampon...

....get lost weirdo.

Nope. I'm your proofreader. Your worst nightmare.

Or perhaps "Alex" is a verb.
Now that's got some possibilities...