NO PERSON SHALL...be deprived of liberty, without due process of LAW

[RetiredGySgt]

What I said is true. The Constitution was written for American citizens. It was not written for terrorists, prisoners of war, enemy combatants, illegal aliens, or any other non-American citizen group. Even though the courts may, at times, apply the Constitution to the aforementioned groups, that does not change the fact of what I said.

so the courts are wrong and you are right....

what is your evidence for this? what precedent? what clause in the constitution supports your view?

what you're advocating is that anyone who is in the country, even visiting legally, does not have constitutional rights.....way wrong dude

Actually Yurt he did answer everything you posted here - see red.

Simply not true. ANYONE inside the US falls within the protections of the Constitution. Already debated and ruled on LONG AGO.

 

[SFC Ollie]

so the courts are wrong and you are right....

what is your evidence for this? what precedent? what clause in the constitution supports your view?

what you're advocating is that anyone who is in the country, even visiting legally, does not have constitutional rights.....way wrong dude

Actually Yurt he did answer everything you posted here - see red.

Simply not true. ANYONE inside the US falls within the protections of the Constitution. Already debated and ruled on LONG AGO.

Yet there is still precedence for Military Tribunals, even within the boundaries of the United States.

 

[goldcatt]

The Constitution was written for and applies to, American citizens. The V Amendment does not apply to terrorist, enemy combatants, illegal aliens, and any other illegal entity.

thats not true...illegal aliens....and it depends on terrorists, where they are caught and what circumstances etc....

What I said is true. The Constitution was written for American citizens. It was not written for terrorists, prisoners of war, enemy combatants, illegal aliens, or any other non-American citizen group. Even though the courts may, at times, apply the Constitution to the aforementioned groups, that does not change the fact of what I said.

Not so. The Constitution is the law of the land, not of its citizens only. It applies to everyone on US soil or on soil subject to US control.

 

[bodecea]

Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

So the fucktards who claim that the "islamofascists" have no right to be tried in US Courts should read the Fifth Amendment until they fucking memorize the same.

The Amendment says NO PERSON , it doesn't say NO US CITIZEN....

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The Constitution was written for and applies to, American citizens. The V Amendment does not apply to terrorist, enemy combatants, illegal aliens, and any other illegal entity.

Sorry, that's not true. It covers anyone on U.S. property.

 

[Mike458877]

Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

So the fucktards who claim that the "islamofascists" have no right to be tried in US Courts should read the Fifth Amendment until they fucking memorize the same.

The Amendment says NO PERSON , it doesn't say NO US CITIZEN....

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That amendment is part of a larger document you idiot which governs the citizens of the United States of America!

Blow it out your ass you terrorist sympathizer!

Military courts offer due process!

Pigs like you and Obama will be the death of this nation!

It's a damn shame your own people don't mean more to you than these terrorists do, unless of course they are your own people!

Mike

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

So the fucktards who claim that the "islamofascists" have no right to be tried in US Courts should read the Fifth Amendment until they fucking memorize the same.

The Amendment says NO PERSON , it doesn't say NO US CITIZEN....

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The Constitution was written for and applies to, American citizens. The V Amendment does not apply to terrorist, enemy combatants, illegal aliens, and any other illegal entity.

Sorry, that's not true. It covers anyone on U.S. property.

That is how various courts have interpreted it. That doesn't make it right.

The Constitution was written to address the limited powers of the federal government, as it relates to the citizens of the United States. Period.

 

[Mike458877]

oh For God's sake, are you people that much against standing up for your own people and nation?

These pigs entered our nation under a banner of war called Jihad. They can prepared to kill American's and did so, under a banner of war!

And you want to afford them more rights than a military court, to provide them a public platform to preach their anti American propaganda? So they can shove their reasoning for killing so many into the faces of those still suffering?

This sure isn't the same nation which liberated Europe and marched to victory in the Pacific.

This sure isn't the same nation then who in very short years grew and excelled at nearly every aspect of modern life.

It is sad, very sad to see what this weird and freakish liberal doctrine has done to us as a people.

They deserve due process yes, of course, that is our way, but, they deserve no more than that.

This American family sure won't bow down to agreeing with appeasing them!

Mike

 

[WillowTree]

oh For God's sake, are you people that much against standing up for your own people and nation?

These pigs entered our nation under a banner of war called Jihad. They can prepared to kill American's and did so, under a banner of war!

And you want to afford them more rights than a military court, to provide them a public platform to preach their anti American propaganda? So they can shove their reasoning for killing so many into the faces of those still suffering?

This sure isn't the same nation which liberated Europe and marched to victory in the Pacific.

This sure isn't the same nation then who in very short years grew and excelled at nearly every aspect of modern life.

It is sad, very sad to see what this weird and freakish liberal doctrine has done to us as a people.

They deserve due process yes, of course, that is our way, but, they deserve no more than that.

This American family sure won't bow down to agreeing with appeasing them!

Mike

It is sad, but ya know what? Maybe this is the wakeup call Real Americans needed.. I don't think a lot of Americans realized how radical the far left is.. Now they do or soon they will. This can only go badly for the "progressives."

 

[Contumacious]

Once again retard the SUPREME COURT approved the use of Military tribunals for them, what part of that are you incapable of understanding?

Son-of-a-bitch.

Did they waterboard you too?!?!?!

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Answer the question dumb ass? Do you understand that the terrorists at Gitmo can be tried by military tribunals and that in fact the Current administration plans just that for some of them?

WHY the fuck do we need a parallel justice system?!?!?!?!?

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[Dr Grump]

I wonder how many millions of Dollars were wasted because of this little show?

Nowhere near the figure wasted invading Iraq, let alone the lives lost....

 

[Dr Grump]

oh For God's sake, are you people that much against standing up for your own people and nation?

These pigs entered our nation under a banner of war called Jihad. They can prepared to kill American's and did so, under a banner of war!

And you want to afford them more rights than a military court, to provide them a public platform to preach their anti American propaganda? So they can shove their reasoning for killing so many into the faces of those still suffering?

This sure isn't the same nation which liberated Europe and marched to victory in the Pacific.

This sure isn't the same nation then who in very short years grew and excelled at nearly every aspect of modern life.

It is sad, very sad to see what this weird and freakish liberal doctrine has done to us as a people.

They deserve due process yes, of course, that is our way, but, they deserve no more than that.

This American family sure won't bow down to agreeing with appeasing them!

Mike

Talk about soap boxes.....get off yours..

They did not ENTER your country, you took them from the ME and transported them to Gitmo.

If they do have a trial, it'll be interesting to see the evidence...

 

[Yurt]

oh For God's sake, are you people that much against standing up for your own people and nation?

These pigs entered our nation under a banner of war called Jihad. They can prepared to kill American's and did so, under a banner of war!

And you want to afford them more rights than a military court, to provide them a public platform to preach their anti American propaganda? So they can shove their reasoning for killing so many into the faces of those still suffering?

This sure isn't the same nation which liberated Europe and marched to victory in the Pacific.

This sure isn't the same nation then who in very short years grew and excelled at nearly every aspect of modern life.

It is sad, very sad to see what this weird and freakish liberal doctrine has done to us as a people.

They deserve due process yes, of course, that is our way, but, they deserve no more than that.

This American family sure won't bow down to agreeing with appeasing them!

Mike

Talk about soap boxes.....get off yours..

They did not ENTER your country, you took them from the ME and transported them to Gitmo.

If they do have a trial, it'll be interesting to see the evidence...

you don't personally have to enter the situs of the crime to be guilty of it.....

 

[WillowTree]

oh For God's sake, are you people that much against standing up for your own people and nation?

These pigs entered our nation under a banner of war called Jihad. They can prepared to kill American's and did so, under a banner of war!

And you want to afford them more rights than a military court, to provide them a public platform to preach their anti American propaganda? So they can shove their reasoning for killing so many into the faces of those still suffering?

This sure isn't the same nation which liberated Europe and marched to victory in the Pacific.

This sure isn't the same nation then who in very short years grew and excelled at nearly every aspect of modern life.

It is sad, very sad to see what this weird and freakish liberal doctrine has done to us as a people.

They deserve due process yes, of course, that is our way, but, they deserve no more than that.

This American family sure won't bow down to agreeing with appeasing them!

Mike

Talk about soap boxes.....get off yours..

They did not ENTER your country, you took them from the ME and transported them to Gitmo.

If they do have a trial, it'll be interesting to see the evidence...

Well, take heart gump,, with the bunch over here they'll probably do what your whimpy assed country did and send them to Libya!

 

[Yurt]

The Constitution was written for and applies to, American citizens. The V Amendment does not apply to terrorist, enemy combatants, illegal aliens, and any other illegal entity.

Sorry, that's not true. It covers anyone on U.S. property.

That is how various courts have interpreted it. That doesn't make it right.

The Constitution was written to address the limited powers of the federal government, as it relates to the citizens of the United States. Period.

why can't you answer my post about your evidence, authority etc....? given your response i am led to believe that all you have is your opinion, nothing more

 

[Dr Grump]

Well, take heart gump,, with the bunch over here they'll probably do what your whimpy assed country did and send them to Libya!

Sent who to Libya? What are you talking about?

 

[Dr Grump]

you don't personally have to enter the situs of the crime to be guilty of it.....

I know, that is why I am interested in what evidence they have.

he could get off you know...

 

[Dr Grump]

The Constitution was written to address the limited powers of the federal government, as it relates to the citizens of the United States. Period.

Link.......

 

[WillowTree]

you don't personally have to enter the situs of the crime to be guilty of it.....

I know, that is why I am interested in what evidence they have.

he could get off you know...

we are sure of it,, that's the plan stan. but in liberal land of great American justice "they will not go free." ain't that a hoot n a holler?

 

[jillian]

Well, take heart gump,, with the bunch over here they'll probably do what your whimpy assed country did and send them to Libya!

Sent who to Libya? What are you talking about?

I think the idiot doesn't know the difference between the UK and the antipodes.

no surprises there...

 

[Dr Grump]

you don't personally have to enter the situs of the crime to be guilty of it.....

I know, that is why I am interested in what evidence they have.

he could get off you know...

we are sure of it,, that's the plan stan.

You want him to get off? hhmmmm

what a person will do for politics....

fuck the victims, as long as Obama looks bad huh?

Nice....