No one white today owned slaves but most whites today benefitted from the 100 years after slavery.

[IM2]

Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

Why are egalitarians so stupid?

Just because there's some income disparities between different demographics, doesn't automatically mean it's from discrimination.

Yes, your chart shows that Whites with professional, and advanced degrees have more income.

But, does that mean that they all have the same degrees? some advanced degree fields pay more than others.

One demographic might be more skilled too, just because 2 people have the same degree, doesn't necessarily mean they have the same qualifications to make a business money.

Furthermore a lot of money can be generated from investments, maybe each group saves money for investments in a different manner.

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You've been shown the facts that legacy points are provided in Ivy league schools.

Yup. You bet.

The point has been proven

Bzzzzt. Wrong.
You said....."Correll, you don't seem to understand that whites get 200 legacy points"

Nothing you've posted proved that.

You haven't posted proof there is a national policy of anti white discrimination based on policy .

Who said anything about a national policy?
This is something that many, many individual colleges have chosen to do.
The Federal government didn't force them.

SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

All of the Ivy League schools have truly holistic admissions, so keep SAT scores in perspective and realize that they are just one part of the admissions equation. Perfect 800s across the board don't guarantee admission if other parts of your application are weak. Admissions officers will want to see a strong academic record, a winning essay, meaningful extracurricular activities and good letters of recommendation. A particularly compelling personal story or amazing special talent can partially make up for SAT scores that are below the norm for a school.

Compare SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

Your and Corrells entire argument has been about SAT scores. As you see here SAT scores are just one part of the admission process. It is not the sole determinant of admission. Therefore your entire argument is dead.

My god, your twisting to avoid understanding a simple fact.


All else being equal, the black student can have 230 less sat points and have an equal chance of being admitted as the white student.


NOTHING in that statement implies or suggest in any fashion that SAT scores are the sole determining factor.


YOur post is utterly senseless.

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

To combat racism, minorities in the United States have

often attempted to portray themselves as upstanding citizens capable of assimilating into mainstream culture. Asian Americans were no different, Wu writes. Some, like the Chinese, sought respectability by promoting stories about their obedient children and their traditional family values. The Japanese pointed to their wartime service as proof of their shared Americanness.

African Americans in the 1940s made very similar appeals. But in the postwar moment, Wu argues, it was only convenient for political leaders to hear the Asian voices.

The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans “provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world,” Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda.

By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

“The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship,” she writes.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

“The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

But that's not what really happened, he says.

Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.


Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy. Yo don't know anything about the policy. When you claim the polivy omly probdes blacks with extra

You've been shown the facts that legacy points are provided in Ivy league schools.

Yup. You bet.

The point has been proven

Bzzzzt. Wrong.
You said....."Correll, you don't seem to understand that whites get 200 legacy points"

Nothing you've posted proved that.

You haven't posted proof there is a national policy of anti white discrimination based on policy .

Who said anything about a national policy?
This is something that many, many individual colleges have chosen to do.
The Federal government didn't force them.

SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

All of the Ivy League schools have truly holistic admissions, so keep SAT scores in perspective and realize that they are just one part of the admissions equation. Perfect 800s across the board don't guarantee admission if other parts of your application are weak. Admissions officers will want to see a strong academic record, a winning essay, meaningful extracurricular activities and good letters of recommendation. A particularly compelling personal story or amazing special talent can partially make up for SAT scores that are below the norm for a school.

Compare SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

Your and Corrells entire argument has been about SAT scores. As you see here SAT scores are just one part of the admission process. It is not the sole determinant of admission. Therefore your entire argument is dead.

My god, your twisting to avoid understanding a simple fact.


All else being equal, the black student can have 230 less sat points and have an equal chance of being admitted as the white student.


NOTHING in that statement implies or suggest in any fashion that SAT scores are the sole determining factor.


YOur post is utterly senseless.

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

To combat racism, minorities in the United States have

often attempted to portray themselves as upstanding citizens capable of assimilating into mainstream culture. Asian Americans were no different, Wu writes. Some, like the Chinese, sought respectability by promoting stories about their obedient children and their traditional family values. The Japanese pointed to their wartime service as proof of their shared Americanness.

African Americans in the 1940s made very similar appeals. But in the postwar moment, Wu argues, it was only convenient for political leaders to hear the Asian voices.

The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans “provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world,” Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda.

By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

“The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship,” she writes.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

“The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

But that's not what really happened, he says.

Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.


Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

o

You let a bunch of illogical comments get made to tell me this. You are not my evaluator son. You're just another dumb ass white pretending to be non racist.

At this point, you are just lashing out blindly. Get a hold of yourself and start over. It's not too late to admit your errors and present yourself as a reasonable person. State your case with calm reason and logic and people will respond in kind. Continue to act like a screeching lunatic and you will soon be nothing but fodder for the flame zone.

He can't.

If he admitted any validity to the opposing viewpoint, he would be repudiating all of his life's work, offending his professional allies and likely pissing off many of his personal friends.

There is no validity to your veiwpoint.

Says the man who's viewpoint is based on pretending to NOT understand grade school math.

At least I am not the one making up a reason to cry about something that doesn't happen.

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy.

Obviously, based on the 50 points they get subtracted from their scores.

 

[IM2]

SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

Compare SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

Your and Corrells entire argument has been about SAT scores. As you see here SAT scores are just one part of the admission process. It is not the sole determinant of admission. Therefore your entire argument is dead.

My god, your twisting to avoid understanding a simple fact.


All else being equal, the black student can have 230 less sat points and have an equal chance of being admitted as the white student.


NOTHING in that statement implies or suggest in any fashion that SAT scores are the sole determining factor.


YOur post is utterly senseless.

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

To combat racism, minorities in the United States have

often attempted to portray themselves as upstanding citizens capable of assimilating into mainstream culture. Asian Americans were no different, Wu writes. Some, like the Chinese, sought respectability by promoting stories about their obedient children and their traditional family values. The Japanese pointed to their wartime service as proof of their shared Americanness.

African Americans in the 1940s made very similar appeals. But in the postwar moment, Wu argues, it was only convenient for political leaders to hear the Asian voices.

The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans “provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world,” Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda.

By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

“The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship,” she writes.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

“The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

But that's not what really happened, he says.

Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.


Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy. Yo don't know anything about the policy. When you claim the polivy omly probdes blacks with extra

SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

Compare SAT Scores for Ivy League Admissions

Your and Corrells entire argument has been about SAT scores. As you see here SAT scores are just one part of the admission process. It is not the sole determinant of admission. Therefore your entire argument is dead.

My god, your twisting to avoid understanding a simple fact.


All else being equal, the black student can have 230 less sat points and have an equal chance of being admitted as the white student.


NOTHING in that statement implies or suggest in any fashion that SAT scores are the sole determining factor.


YOur post is utterly senseless.

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

To combat racism, minorities in the United States have

often attempted to portray themselves as upstanding citizens capable of assimilating into mainstream culture. Asian Americans were no different, Wu writes. Some, like the Chinese, sought respectability by promoting stories about their obedient children and their traditional family values. The Japanese pointed to their wartime service as proof of their shared Americanness.

African Americans in the 1940s made very similar appeals. But in the postwar moment, Wu argues, it was only convenient for political leaders to hear the Asian voices.

The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans “provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world,” Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda.

By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

“The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship,” she writes.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

“The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

But that's not what really happened, he says.

Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.


Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

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At this point, you are just lashing out blindly. Get a hold of yourself and start over. It's not too late to admit your errors and present yourself as a reasonable person. State your case with calm reason and logic and people will respond in kind. Continue to act like a screeching lunatic and you will soon be nothing but fodder for the flame zone.

He can't.

If he admitted any validity to the opposing viewpoint, he would be repudiating all of his life's work, offending his professional allies and likely pissing off many of his personal friends.

There is no validity to your veiwpoint.

Says the man who's viewpoint is based on pretending to NOT understand grade school math.

At least I am not the one making up a reason to cry about something that doesn't happen.

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy.

Obviously, based on the 50 points they get subtracted from their scores.

Explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

My god, your twisting to avoid understanding a simple fact.


All else being equal, the black student can have 230 less sat points and have an equal chance of being admitted as the white student.


NOTHING in that statement implies or suggest in any fashion that SAT scores are the sole determining factor.


YOur post is utterly senseless.

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

To combat racism, minorities in the United States have

often attempted to portray themselves as upstanding citizens capable of assimilating into mainstream culture. Asian Americans were no different, Wu writes. Some, like the Chinese, sought respectability by promoting stories about their obedient children and their traditional family values. The Japanese pointed to their wartime service as proof of their shared Americanness.

African Americans in the 1940s made very similar appeals. But in the postwar moment, Wu argues, it was only convenient for political leaders to hear the Asian voices.

The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans “provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world,” Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda.

By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

“The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship,” she writes.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

“The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

But that's not what really happened, he says.

Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.


Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy. Yo don't know anything about the policy. When you claim the polivy omly probdes blacks with extra

My god, your twisting to avoid understanding a simple fact.


All else being equal, the black student can have 230 less sat points and have an equal chance of being admitted as the white student.


NOTHING in that statement implies or suggest in any fashion that SAT scores are the sole determining factor.


YOur post is utterly senseless.

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

To combat racism, minorities in the United States have

often attempted to portray themselves as upstanding citizens capable of assimilating into mainstream culture. Asian Americans were no different, Wu writes. Some, like the Chinese, sought respectability by promoting stories about their obedient children and their traditional family values. The Japanese pointed to their wartime service as proof of their shared Americanness.

African Americans in the 1940s made very similar appeals. But in the postwar moment, Wu argues, it was only convenient for political leaders to hear the Asian voices.

The model minority narrative may have started with Asian Americans, but it was quickly co-opted by white politicians who saw it as a tool to win allies in the Cold War. Discrimination was not a good look on the international stage. Embracing Asian Americans “provided a powerful means for the United States to proclaim itself a racial democracy and thereby credentialed to assume the leadership of the free world,” Wu writes. Stories about Asian American success were turned into propaganda.

By the 1960s, anxieties about the civil right movement caused white Americans to further invest in positive portrayals of Asian Americans. The image of the hard-working Asian became an extremely convenient way to deny the demands of African Americans. As Wu describes in her book, both liberal and conservative politicians pumped up the image of Asian Americans as a way to shift the blame for black poverty. If Asians could find success within the system, politicians asked, why couldn’t African Americans?

“The insinuation was that hard work along with unwavering faith in the government and liberal democracy as opposed to political protest were the keys to overcoming racial barriers as well as achieving full citizenship,” she writes.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

“The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

But that's not what really happened, he says.

Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.


Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’

But some will maintain that this is all talk of the past, that this history says little about the present-day realities of Asian-Americans. They might note that in 1965 Congress rid racial discrimination from immigration and naturalization law. The convictions of Gordon Hirabayashi and Fred Korematsu, furthermore, were overturned in the 1980s and Japanese-Americans received reparations for internment around that same time. Racism barely scars the lives of Asian-Americans, these folk might insist, noting that America regards them as a so-called “model minority.”

In the 1960s, when articulated grievances against anti-black bigotry roiled throughout the American landscape, some leading white intellectuals, through the mainstream media, championed the idea that Asian-Americans constituted a model minority. The model minority myth holds that Asian-Americans are an incredibly successful group generally because of their personal responsibility and law-abiding behavior.

In 1966, the U.S. News & World Report, for instance, wrote, “At a time when Americans are awash in worry over the plight of racial minorities — one such minority, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese Americans, is winning wealth and respect by dint of its own hard work … Still being taught in Chinatown is the old idea that people should depend on their own efforts — not a welfare check—in order to reach America’s ‘promised land.’” The national press pumped out similar stories lauding Asian-Americans and indirectly scolding blacks, while scholarly work validating the model minority stereotype blanketed social science journals. Fifty years later, the model minority stereotype appears true both inside and outside the Asian-American population.

But the model minority stereotype is a myth that white supremacy devised partly to defend American society from the charges of racism leveled by black folk and those sympathetic to their complaints.

The model minority myth, furthermore, convinces citizens and power holders that Asian-Americans harbor no real need for government assistance. “The portrayal of Asian Americans as successful,” Seattle University School of Law professor Robert S. Chang wrote, “permits the general public, government officials, and the judiciary to ignore or marginalize the contemporary needs of Asian Americans.”

Besides this sort of neglect, Asian-Americans face active discrimination. Approximately 30 percent of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders reported that they had endured discrimination in the workplace, the highest reporting percentage of any racial group. Blacks were second at 26 percent.

The primary reason for this employment discrimination is that Asian-Americans are often deemed unsuited for high-ranking management positions.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

A piece from New York Magazine's Andrew Sullivan over the weekend ended with an old, well-worn trope: Asian-Americans, with their "solid two-parent family structures," are a shining example of how to overcome discrimination. An essay that began by imagining why Democrats feel sorry for Hillary Clinton — and then detoured to President Trump's policies — drifted to this troubling ending:

"Today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn't possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn't be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?"

Sullivan's piece, rife with generalizations about a group as vastly diverse as Asian-Americans, rightfully raised hackles. Not only inaccurate, his piece spreads the idea that Asian-Americans as a group are monolithic, even though parsing data by ethnicity reveals a host of disparities; for example, Bhutanese-Americans have far higher rates of poverty than other Asian populations, like Japanese-Americans. And at the root of Sullivan's pernicious argument is the idea that black failure and Asian success cannot be explained by inequities and racism, and that they are one and the same; this allows a segment of white America to avoid any responsibility for addressing racism or the damage it continues to inflict.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

A contributor at The Amherst Student points out that recruited athletes get a bonus of 200 points, while legacy students receive a bonus of 160 points.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

o

He can't.

If he admitted any validity to the opposing viewpoint, he would be repudiating all of his life's work, offending his professional allies and likely pissing off many of his personal friends.

There is no validity to your veiwpoint.

Says the man who's viewpoint is based on pretending to NOT understand grade school math.

At least I am not the one making up a reason to cry about something that doesn't happen.

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy.

Obviously, based on the 50 points they get subtracted from their scores.

Explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

 

[IM2]

1. THe colleges were selected because the admissions are very competitive, thus you can see that discrimination that occurs.

2. The entire population of the nation is majority white, and whites, for whatever reason, generally out perform blacks academically. Given that, that whites are a majority in those schools, is not evidence that the discrimination does not take place.


3. IF the 230 points are GIVEN, then the discrimination is taking place. Giving someone else an unfair advantage because of skin color is what DISCRIMINATION IS!!!

4. If you really have a masters in the field, and can't see that, that is a massive condemnation of both the field and the entire higher education industry in this nation.

There is no discrimination in admittance if whites are the majority of those admitted. This is what idiots like you who whine about discrimination need to understand the definition An adverse impact must be created by the policy for discrimination to be proven. If whites are the majority of admitted students there is no adverse impact on whites. There is no discrimination in this policy son, and that's just the way it is.

It IS the way it is. If there is any discrimination taking place in admissions, every CURRENT study indicates that it is Asian students who are most at risk.

What he is doing is ignoring that glaring fact from the same study from 2004(13 years ago) that he posted, attempting to spin it to look like the admission of literally ANY black student is at the expense of MASSIVE numbers of white students.

It's laughable that he is still on a soapbox about proven BULLSHIT.

Opinion | White Students’ Unfair Advantage in Admissions

As always, I am not responsible for the voices in your head. NONE of the crazy you attribute to me, has anything to actually do with me or anything I said.


Please try again.

No need to venture down YOUR path of persecution again.

If you happened to be an Asian student who was actually being affected by the information in numerous studies out there, including the one you posted, then I might have some empathy, but you trying to ride on the coattails of their challenges relating to fainess in college admissions, does in fact effectively remove the mask from your psychosis.

There is nothing in this thread to "try again" for where you are concerned.

Carry on.

That Asians are discriminated against even MORE individually does not mean that many more whites are not discriminated against.



It is not credible that you cannot grasp that simple fact, based on the reality that you have the brain power to find your computer on a regular basis.

Sorry but there is no discrimination against whites.

 

[IM2]

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans


The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’



Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks



'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy. Yo don't know anything about the policy. When you claim the polivy omly probdes blacks with extra

Thus beginneth todays lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website. The Ivy League doesn;'t say that. In fact your information is derived from a person who runs the H2 Academy and assumes racial bias is part of the process. There is no black bonus, the person named Ann Lee claims one by calling it that.

Some Asians who ae being dumb refuse to understand they are also benefactors of Affirmative Action. An Asian would npt be allowed entrance into these schools without the policy. More Asians would not be admitted if the policy ends.

Asians Penalized 50 Points On SAT – Black Students Given 230 Bonus Points…

You see this stereotype by whites about the Asan being the model minority is not new.

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans


The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans

So as I have said before stop using asians for your argument because you don't give a damn about them. Yu ae only trying to cite what you whote folks have made up about Asians to try denying the truth of what us black folks say about your racism.

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’



Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks



'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

oThere is no validity to your veiwpoint.

Says the man who's viewpoint is based on pretending to NOT understand grade school math.

At least I am not the one making up a reason to cry about something that doesn't happen.

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy.

Obviously, based on the 50 points they get subtracted from their scores.

Explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You were asked the question and since you want to rant on and on about some made up advantage blacks are supposed to have maybe you would be man enough to recognize how many things whites have been given and continue to get. Or is all you exist here to do is whine and troll?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The real secret to Asian American success was not education

So again stop lying about how you are so concerned about Asians.

Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too
Anti-Asian-American racism paints picture of a ‘model minority’



Why we must talk about the Asian-American story, too

I'm not like most of you guys. I know what the fuck I am talking about.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks



'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks

We will not be talking about Asian test scores anymore. Asian test scores are not the OP. As you see Asian SAT scores has not ended the racism Asians face and white men still get paid more.

Oh excuse me I was wrong about legacy points, it is 160. Funny how these points never get mentioned.

There is a history of not allowing all others entry into these universities regardless of what their mother fucking SAT scores were based on color. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen and you don't get t pretend that for over 200 years such access was denied to act like in 50 years it's a matter that has been all corrected.

The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Thus endeth the lesson.

Why are egalitarians so stupid?

Just because there's some income disparities between different demographics, doesn't automatically mean it's from discrimination.

Yes, your chart shows that Whites with professional, and advanced degrees have more income.

But, does that mean that they all have the same degrees? some advanced degree fields pay more than others.

One demographic might be more skilled too, just because 2 people have the same degree, doesn't necessarily mean they have the same qualifications to make a business money.

Furthermore a lot of money can be generated from investments, maybe each group saves money for investments in a different manner.

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

 

[IM2]

Admission to elite colleges and universities in the United States is not now and never has been based solely on academic merit.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

You see the problem with you and corrells whining is that you posted what suited our racist views. You make no mention about concern for underrepresented minorities which in Ivy League schools Asians are not. But like the race baiting punks you are , the disingenuous assholes who are racist against Asians but only use them in this argument to try denying how whites have been given the most advantages and have benefitted he most at the expense of everyone else there is much in this study that you do not mention.

You're a liar and I would suggest to you that you really quit trying to argue based on this study before I eat your punk white ass up with the fact this study really shows. Now you don't have to listen, you, correll and the other idiots came pump yourselves up trying to make personal attacks, but it is vest for you to move on past this lie and answer the question you were provided.

 

[IM2]

Why are egalitarians so stupid?

Just because there's some income disparities between different demographics, doesn't automatically mean it's from discrimination.

Yes, your chart shows that Whites with professional, and advanced degrees have more income.

But, does that mean that they all have the same degrees? some advanced degree fields pay more than others.

One demographic might be more skilled too, just because 2 people have the same degree, doesn't necessarily mean they have the same qualifications to make a business money.

Furthermore a lot of money can be generated from investments, maybe each group saves money for investments in a different manner.

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

That's another lie.

 

[IM2]

Although underrepresented minority status may be one of the most conspicuous of the so-called bonus factors, undergraduate admission officers in assembling a first-year class that best meets institutional goals and values routinely give extra weight to numerous other student attributes, including athletic ability, musical talent, rural background, lower socioeconomic status, gender, alumni connections, leadership ability, geography, and unusual life experiences

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

Like I said.....

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why are egalitarians so stupid?

Just because there's some income disparities between different demographics, doesn't automatically mean it's from discrimination.

Yes, your chart shows that Whites with professional, and advanced degrees have more income.

But, does that mean that they all have the same degrees? some advanced degree fields pay more than others.

One demographic might be more skilled too, just because 2 people have the same degree, doesn't necessarily mean they have the same qualifications to make a business money.

Furthermore a lot of money can be generated from investments, maybe each group saves money for investments in a different manner.

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

That's another lie.

If it's so bad, why do you stay here?
Are you just a pest?

 

[IM2]

Bowen and Bok (1998:28 n.13) report overall admission rates for the 1989 entering cohort of 44 percent for nonAfrican-American legacies, 22 percent for non-African-American, nonlegacy candidates, and 39 percent for all African-American applicants.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

Legacy applicants also receive preferential treatment in admissions. Children or other close relatives of alumni have nearly three times the likelihood of being accepted as nonlegacies.

44 percent of white legacy students are admitted , 39 percent of African Americans who had no legacy were. There were 6,000 plus African Americans who applied meaning approximately 2,400 were admitted. There wee 60,000 whites who applied. Lets say half of them were legacy, and on legacy alone over 12,000 whites are admitted. That's 5 times the number of blacks automatically admitted on legacy.

The mean SAT score for all groups was 1332 btw. 80 percent pf all the applicants from all the races scored at least 1200..

 

[IM2]

Why are egalitarians so stupid?

Just because there's some income disparities between different demographics, doesn't automatically mean it's from discrimination.

Yes, your chart shows that Whites with professional, and advanced degrees have more income.

But, does that mean that they all have the same degrees? some advanced degree fields pay more than others.

One demographic might be more skilled too, just because 2 people have the same degree, doesn't necessarily mean they have the same qualifications to make a business money.

Furthermore a lot of money can be generated from investments, maybe each group saves money for investments in a different manner.

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

That's another lie.

If it's so bad, why do you stay here?
Are you just a pest?

Stop asking that stupid ass question. This probably the 30th time you've asked it, I was born here, I don't have too leave. I have the right to demand that things change.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy. Yo don't know anything about the policy. When you claim the polivy omly probdes blacks with extra

You keep talking about this 230 points but I can't find proof of it anywhere except on a conservative website.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

DERP!

After California passed Proposition 209 in 1996, which prohibited universities from considering race in admissions, Asian first-year enrollment at UC Berkeley increased from 37.3 percent in 1995 to 43.6 percent in 2000 to 46.6 percent by 2005. At UCSD, it increased from 35.9 percent in 1995 to 46.9 percent in 2005. (3)

The Admissions Race | The Amherst Student

Check it out, evidence that Asian students were hurt by the AA preferences given.


The question has been asked, how has redlining helped whites today?

Fewer whiners in their neighborhoods?

Says the man who's viewpoint is based on pretending to NOT understand grade school math.

At least I am not the one making up a reason to cry about something that doesn't happen.

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy.

Obviously, based on the 50 points they get subtracted from their scores.

Explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You were asked the question and since you want to rant on and on about some made up advantage blacks are supposed to have maybe you would be man enough to recognize how many things whites have been given and continue to get. Or is all you exist here to do is whine and troll?

since you want to rant on and on about some made up advantage blacks are supposed to have

Supposed to have? LOL!

maybe you would be man enough to recognize how many things whites have been given

What has redlining given me? Be specific.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Admission to elite colleges and universities in the United States is not now and never has been based solely on academic merit.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

You see the problem with you and corrells whining is that you posted what suited our racist views. You make no mention about concern for underrepresented minorities which in Ivy League schools Asians are not. But like the race baiting punks you are , the disingenuous assholes who are racist against Asians but only use them in this argument to try denying how whites have been given the most advantages and have benefitted he most at the expense of everyone else there is much in this study that you do not mention.

You're a liar and I would suggest to you that you really quit trying to argue based on this study before I eat your punk white ass up with the fact this study really shows. Now you don't have to listen, you, correll and the other idiots came pump yourselves up trying to make personal attacks, but it is vest for you to move on past this lie and answer the question you were provided.

You see the problem with you and corrells whining is that you posted what suited our racist views.

I see the problem with your whining is that you posted what suited your racist views.

I would suggest to you that you really quit trying to argue based on this study before I eat your punk white ass up

Ooohh, you're gettin' me all excited!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why are egalitarians so stupid?

Just because there's some income disparities between different demographics, doesn't automatically mean it's from discrimination.

Yes, your chart shows that Whites with professional, and advanced degrees have more income.

But, does that mean that they all have the same degrees? some advanced degree fields pay more than others.

One demographic might be more skilled too, just because 2 people have the same degree, doesn't necessarily mean they have the same qualifications to make a business money.

Furthermore a lot of money can be generated from investments, maybe each group saves money for investments in a different manner.

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

That's another lie.

If it's so bad, why do you stay here?
Are you just a pest?

Stop asking that stupid ass question. This probably the 30th time you've asked it, I was born here, I don't have too leave. I have the right to demand that things change.

I don't think things are going to get much more tolerant than this.

The U.S.A is rather tolerant, this Pew poll survey exposes how in parts of Europe intolerance is much more prevalent than here.

Chapter 6. Opinions of Ethnic and Religious Minorities

For example in the U.S.A 86% viewed Blacks as favorable, and 8% as unfavorable.

In comparison in Italy, and Czech Republic 84% viewed Roma (Gypsies) as unfavorable,

 

[IM2]

Admission to elite colleges and universities in the United States is not now and never has been based solely on academic merit.

https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf

You see the problem with you and corrells whining is that you posted what suited our racist views. You make no mention about concern for underrepresented minorities which in Ivy League schools Asians are not. But like the race baiting punks you are , the disingenuous assholes who are racist against Asians but only use them in this argument to try denying how whites have been given the most advantages and have benefitted he most at the expense of everyone else there is much in this study that you do not mention.

You're a liar and I would suggest to you that you really quit trying to argue based on this study before I eat your punk white ass up with the fact this study really shows. Now you don't have to listen, you, correll and the other idiots came pump yourselves up trying to make personal attacks, but it is vest for you to move on past this lie and answer the question you were provided.

You see the problem with you and corrells whining is that you posted what suited our racist views.

I see the problem with your whining is that you posted what suited your racist views.

I would suggest to you that you really quit trying to argue based on this study before I eat your punk white ass up

Ooohh, you're gettin' me all excited!

Actually I am not posting a lie to try proving one such as you and Correll are trying to do.

 

[IM2]

When there is a continuing record of discrimination between those demographics then if there are disparities it's most cases will be due to discrimination. When there is the record of discrimination that has occurred here a disparity in kill due to demographics may also vey well be due to .racism.

And you can drop the investment argument.

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

That's another lie.

If it's so bad, why do you stay here?
Are you just a pest?

Stop asking that stupid ass question. This probably the 30th time you've asked it, I was born here, I don't have too leave. I have the right to demand that things change.

I don't think things are going to get much more tolerant than this.

The U.S.A is rather tolerant, this Pew poll survey exposes how in parts of Europe intolerance is much more prevalent than here.

Chapter 6. Opinions of Ethnic and Religious Minorities

For example in the U.S.A 86% viewed Blacks as favorable, and 8% as unfavorable.

In comparison in Italy, and Czech Republic 84% viewed Roma (Gypsies) as unfavorable,

You are a racist.. You and others here have made references to blacks as chimps and apes. Others here feel the same way. But here you are trying to ttell me how tolerant people are here according to a poll in 1991..

So why did whites create the policy of redlining and how did they benefit from it.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

There's hardly discrimination today, especially not in the notoriously elite circles who so often hire foreign over American.

That's another lie.

If it's so bad, why do you stay here?
Are you just a pest?

Stop asking that stupid ass question. This probably the 30th time you've asked it, I was born here, I don't have too leave. I have the right to demand that things change.

I don't think things are going to get much more tolerant than this.

The U.S.A is rather tolerant, this Pew poll survey exposes how in parts of Europe intolerance is much more prevalent than here.

Chapter 6. Opinions of Ethnic and Religious Minorities

For example in the U.S.A 86% viewed Blacks as favorable, and 8% as unfavorable.

In comparison in Italy, and Czech Republic 84% viewed Roma (Gypsies) as unfavorable,

You are a racist.. You and others here have made references to blacks as chimps and apes. Others here feel the same way. But here you are trying to ttell me how tolerant people are here according to a poll in 1991..

So why did whites create the policy of redlining and how did they benefit from it.

Yes, I am a racist, why is that shocking? I'm of an Eastern European background, and according to that poll Eastern Europeans aren't as tolerant (Today at least)

But, most on this forum are rather neutral towards Blacks. (Besides much of this forum is clearly Conservative leaning)
You seem to think that anyone who doesn't appease Blacks, even denying widespread so called discrimination is ultimately racist.

I'm assuming that part of the poll was conducted in 2006.

Yes, some time has gone by since then, but it's still good data.

Besides, if you're saying race relations have gotten worse, why do you expect things to get better?

 

[IM2]

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy. Yo don't know anything about the policy. When you claim the polivy omly probdes blacks with extra
At least I am not the one making up a reason to cry about something that doesn't happen.

Asians are part of Affitmative Action policy.

Obviously, based on the 50 points they get subtracted from their scores.

Explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.

You were asked the question and since you want to rant on and on about some made up advantage blacks are supposed to have maybe you would be man enough to recognize how many things whites have been given and continue to get. Or is all you exist here to do is whine and troll?

since you want to rant on and on about some made up advantage blacks are supposed to have

Supposed to have? LOL!

maybe you would be man enough to recognize how many things whites have been given

What has redlining given me? Be specific.

Yes supposed to have. Because all these advantages you tell me us blacks get, I haven't seen. But well known policies that have been documented to have benefited whites you deny. You explain why redlining was done and how it has benefitted whites.